How To Rebuild A Broken Fence Gate That Will Never Sag / Gate Repair The Right Way!
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- How To Rebuild A Broken Fence Gate / The Right Way! Have you ever wondered how to fix a sagging fence gate? Gate repair. How to make a fence gate. Sometimes it is best and easiest to just rebuild the fence gate. Repairing your wooden fence gate this way will insure that it lasts for years to come!
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How do you guys build your gates? Let me know in the comments!
Just used your style to fix our fence gate today. It worked perfectly and is super solid. Thanks!
I do the same, however framing I do full a singular full cross in the direction against the direction of opening(sag), I use post stabilizers at the base to get the post back in plub/level, same hardware, I have the same miter saw, I have a skilsaw and black and decker skillsaw as well, I use a ryobi 18v one+ impact driver/drill, I use the same construction screws(important you make pilot holes or the coating will come off and they will rust and leave nasty streaks over time.
I hire professionals like yourself. I'm not confident enough in my work just yet. Thank you for the video.
@@BrendonAndBrendon awesome! Great to hear it!! Keep up the great work!
@@mrpzano hey your welcome! Thank you for your comment!
Your gate is one of the best.
Thanks
I build mine with half lap joints and add the gussets (braces) as well to prevent sagging. Cutting the half lap takes a bit longer but I can glue and screw to add strength. I would recommend though that you build your frame larger, about 4 inches from the top of the bottom of the dog ear, to prevent the boards from warping excessively. As they dry out they will twist. As for the leaning post that threw off your alignment... dig right beside the post on the side you want it to move toward... just about a foot (maybe a bit more if needed). Then go inside with your shovel and turn it over and use the handle to pack the dirt on the inside of your post (if it’s a stubborn post I may use a scrap 2x4 and a hammer to pack. It will straighten up perfectly and you can just put the dirt around to fill the packed side as needed. This can be done before or after gate install and your clients will love it appreciate the attention to detail! Good job bud.
Thanks! I appreciate your comment and the information! I agree, I think making the frame higher and maybe even adding a horizontal board in the middle to attach the boards to so they don't warp would be a good idea. As far as the post, it was set in the ground plum but was warped backwards.
Nice work on the frame. I am looking to rebuild my fence gate. I watched several videos for ideas, and I thought yours was the best. I am going to use your frame design. Thanks
So Awesome Jack! I have never had a problem with it! I think you will be happy with it!
🥰 of all the gate videos I’ve watched, your video was unique (one of a kind) I decided to go with this one 🥰 I’m a 62 yr old woman and this was a success. Thank u for sharing🥰👍🏾
Thank you for your comment! I am so glad this was helpful!!
Thank you for this video! I know it's a couple years old, but it helped my brother and I build a new gate for my fence after the original one literally fell over 😐. It took us longer than you, due to user error, and since we didn't really understand what to do until actually doing it. But the gate came out great! Very proud of ourselves! Thank you!
Fantastic work!!! 😃
Very nice. Now I must practice at a job I landed
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Thank you for this video! I used your process to build two 6 foot x 6 foot gates three months ago, they swing open and closed like I made them yesterday, literally zero sag. I even added weight my installing three piece caps as well. Both are still rock solid!
That's awesome Marvin! So glad this helped!!
Hi Allen. I build my wood gates with 7 half-lap joints. I use 2 vertical boards, 3 horizontal boards, and 1 diagonal board. The middle board helps with rigidity and leaves more wood for the latch to be screwed to. I use 4 dowel pins with 1 screw in the center of each half-lap. After I square up the frame, I trace the diagonal board to bisect the opposing corners and half-lap the middle board. Then I secure the diagonal from both sides using my pocket hole jig. I would only use cedar or treated wood, and exterior trex screws. My gates should last many years without sagging.
Awesome work Peter! Thanks for your comment!
Well i must say not a fast as you for my very first door because i had to use parts of the old gate . But wow i used you exact idea and or lay out it was super easy . Thanks so much
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, the gate looks great and you explained it very simply!
So glad this was helpful! You are welcome!
My heavy gate just fell yesterday, will be rebuilding this style today. Thanks bud
Use lap joints and wood glue. To make it stonger.
I have seen that done before and it looks really strong!
Great video. I used it to build mine today and it turned out great. I did the double cuts and all. Even put braces. Thankx for the video
New subscribe here. I've watched about 15 "how to build a gate" tutes on CZcams, and this one (along with the comments) is the most helpful. All the info was right to the point and demonstrated clearly. Also, I much prefer the look of four cross-pieces instead of one diagonal brace. Good job, thank you!
Hey thanks! I appreciate your comment!
Love the way you build your gates
Great job on the gate. It's always better to build a step better than to just build and adjust or repair later.
I would agree Anthony! Thanks for your comment!
Nice gate Allen, good sturdy construction,also would suggest using pressure treated lumber for the frame,or use some kind of wood preservative like Thompson’s or CWF on the Regular lumber
Thanks Pete! I appreciate your comment! I agree, Some sort of preservative would be best!
Given the local flora, I would say he is in California and PT lumber is not nearly as necessary in the Golden State. :P
I've done gates several different ways depending on the size and purpose of the gate itself. Usually use cedar, PT, KDAT or Douglas Fir as in my parts regular 2x material is usually SYP which will crap out real quick due to the weather. Most of the time the frames are butt joint (miters on occasion) using Titebond 2 and secured using either structural screws (GRK or Fastenmaster) or pocket holes with stainless screws. Larger gates will get both mid section and diagonal braces with a half lap at the intersection fully glued and screwed and anti-sag hardware upon customers request/approval. I don't use Grip Rite construction screws as they are not rated for exterior use and are not suitable for use on ACQ, MCQ or CA which are the most common types of PT I run into. Nice job once again, I'm sure your customer is happy.
Thanks for the comment and all the info! I appreciate it!!
I like the video and the effort. I've been fixing gates and wood fence professionally a long time. Use the Z pattern. Less weight, the hinge bites into 1 solid piece. Make sure center board goes from bottom hinge out and is solid!
This is the only way to do it. The way he did it, it will at some point sag
I like your work on this. One thing I would change though is the way you attached the latch. Your frame is 1.5 inches. Your catch is on a board that is 3.5 inches. Besides the other post not being level this is the other reason for the gap on top when you are facing the front. I think adding a piece of 2x4 to the frame where the latch is would fix this. Cheers.
I just finished a 5X6 gate just like yours. the only difference is I interspaced 1X2" cedar with shorter 1X6 cedar so I could have an open top. good job with the gate and the vid.
Hey thanks David I appreciate it! Have a great week!
Nice build. I use treated wood,3 hinges and 3 inch bolts to the post
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Thank you for that last tidbit! I am a beginner and I wondered about the post being plumb in the beginning of the video.
I use 5/4 deck boards for my fence gate frames and one diagonal.
Awesome saw trick thanks man
Your welcome! 💪
Hey Allen! I would've just put a diagonal brace running to the bottom hinge. Saves a few cuts. I do like how you miter and assemble the frame though
Thanks Robert!! I appreciate your comment!
My thoughts exact.
I like the way you build the gate gonna try to build my gates like that from now on good video
Hey Thanks for your comment!
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Nice work bro but i would never use and DF lumber unless i am going to paint the gate, termites will find their way into that wood in no time! I use Pocket holes always instead of just driving screws on at an angle you will be surprised on their strength!
Nice gate! I use cedar, and half lap joints, multiple cuts with the circular saw, clean them up with the router, glue and screw, solid joinery. No warpage like pressure treated wood.
Thank you for sharing your work... Nice that you are articulate in your process and it is easy to follow. I do the DYI things on my property - I will look for the items you have indicated... The tip on cuts is great too... The timeline important to know as well. Thanks Look forward to folling your posts.
Thanks for your video I'll be using the same style with the actual Overkill the support system that you put on your gate. my neighbor's gate he has the same kind of issue what you just displayed here. i will basically use Your video. To help me out. 👍
You made it look so easy. Thank you for sharing. I will be using you design. Thanks again.
Thanks man! Best of luck to you!!
I use exterior pocket hole screws, exterior construction adhesive and corner bracing with pocket holes. I turn all pocket holes to the side that will be covered with fence boards. I dont belive you can over build giving your customers value for their money always comes back to you with referrals and good references and repeat business. BTW nice job.
Dan
Most definitely!! Thank you for the comment!
Nice job!
Nice job! I’m going to try the braces on my next one. Thanks again Allen
Awesome! Thanks for your comment! I would love to see a pic of your next gate using this method!
Honest Lee Handyman will do. Thanks again
Your welcome!
I watched many people’s build the urs simplest fastest goodjob
Great video
I read in one of your comment replies, you said you like the half lap joint method, but you haven't found an efficient way to do it. If you did find an efficient way, would you use that method instead? I'm a DIYer, building my second gate, and I'm trying to find the strongest method to use. Thanks.
So you left the owner with a crooked gate??? You could have cut a block to go behind one of the hinges so that the gate would line up properly. Or you could have got another job out of it by seeing if the home owner would like you to fix for additional cost. Do you hang a door crooked too if the framing wasn't perfect?
I like your gate frame design but I have to admit that I do not like your choice in fasteners. Those Fasteners were construction screws meant only for indoor use in non pressure treated wood. You should be using a coated screw like Deck Mate. And speaking of pressure treated wood it did not look like you're using pressure-treated two-by-fours on your gate frame and you should be.
Thats because he knowns nothing about installing fences or gates....that pieace of shit will not last for 2 years....if open and closed a lot it will not last at all....no preassure treated lumber...the 2x4 were not even with the existing fence at the top....sorry only people that thinks this is agood job are being fooled!!!!
Add 45 degree bracing to each 2x4 attaching to the post holding the gate. Just like you did inside the gate. The weight of the gate will pull the post hold the gate towards the gate. The nails or screws that connect the 2x4 to the gate are great but a little shift and the gate is now sagging regardless of how well you built the gate. Strengthen the joints with bracing will stop the post from leaning in towards the gate. And like all the other comments use treated lumber for the gate.
Would this be a good design to use on a gate that’s 8 feet wide? I know it’ll work on the smaller side but on the longer side just making sure I’ll be ok to do it there also
An 8 ft gate is never advised unless it's built out of metal. This design will work but you will have to put a wheel on it and it will break down quicker due to the weight. If I was to do it I would make a double gate- 2 - 4 ft gates
@@handymanjourney thanks for the quick reply! Ok the actual opening was 12 feet it just has an 8 foot and a 4 foot gate that meet each other. But I could do 2- 6 foot gates and be ok? Thanks for the tips!
I call BS on the 1 hour and 15 minutes. But still a great solution for a solid/sturdy door. Nice helpful video
Hahaha
I wondered too. It too me 3 hours the other day to build a 6'×3.5'
I like your instant work table, I may try the same idea. How much labor would this cost and also if you had to replace the post what is the going rate to dig a hole and mount a 4x4 post?
Many thanks for the information. Keep us informed.
Thanks for your comment! I love my table, Works great and easy to get around! It all depends on the area and the need, if its a new 4x4 post, typically around 300 or so.
Can I use this method for a 6 foot wide gate?
You could but may need cable bracing. In large wood gates are not meant to be wider than 4ft
whenever my gf has questions about handy stuff around her house I come to your channel to answer her questions lmao!!
Haha! Thanks man! I appreciate it!
Wish I could hire u my dogs sooooo.need gates
Where are you located?
good job man
Are those just 2 x 4s for that gate frame?
is the fence gate flush with the outside fence pickets? Im installing new gate on 4x4 post, in swing, and my gate is not flush with outside pickets
Those screws are specifically interior only FYI!
They looked more on the green side. Interior are more gold. Maybe decking screws. But idk
Great looking gate !
Hey Thanks for your comment!
I prefer to half lap the joints but I am normally building wider gates
non pressure treated wood or cedar? just curious
How do you build a gate on an incline or decline?
Is that wood treated btw? Looks like framing boards.
Can this be done with 1x4 or would they be too thin?
What about a dbl swing gate? Have you built those? Nice job!
Are those standard grade studs? Do you not use pressure treated lumber on exterior projects?
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but couldnt you just use the old gate as a reference for measurements instead of measuring everything from scratch again?
I always build simple “Z” frame gates (1 top rail, 1 bottom rail and a diagonal 2x4 from the latch to the bottom hinge). Also placing the top rail 6” from the top of the picket to prevent the top of the pickets from warping (bending in and out).
Thanksfor your comment! Love it!
Yes you are 100% right. Lee handyman Needs a class from you on building gates.
"Z" framing is an old method and its a lazy and quick way to brace frames. the best way is the way Honest handyman did it. he braced all four corners. this a more balanced method with all forces being equal.
@@ewarda100 Not true. Z framee is way stronger. I build gates for a living. I could swing on the end of a Z frame gate because it has one brace that can not be moved. the 45 degree corners on this gate will be its demise and the 4 little baces holding each corner together. Home owners sometimes build gates like this. Never a professional
@@chrisbatchelor3717 I doubt it. A "Z" frame prevents shifting on 2 corners. Bracing all corners does exactly that. Simple physics.
you do good work sir!
Hey thanks! I appreciate it
Like the style dude
Hey Thanks Andrew!
Awesome video, thanks for this!
How do you the planks shrinking after installation? I used what I thought were pressure treated boards but after a few months, the gap between them got large even though I installed them flush.
I dont have the saws so I'd need to have the wood ripped at Home Depot, you couldn't tell me what cuts I would need? TY
I use a half lap on all corners and a center brace from upper corner to opposite bottom corner.
S. Carolina maintenance that is definitely a great way to build a strong gate! I just haven't found a quick and efficient way to cut a half lap joint
I do it the exact same way. Works great everytime. You can either use the polish plain method or a 3/4” straight bit in a router
david nelson what is the polish plain method?
Honest Lee Handyman whoops. I meant plane as in planer. You just run a circular saw over every 1/8” of the lap joint then take a hammer and chisel out the pieces. However I will say the router has a much cleaner cut
david nelson ahh that makes sense!! I like it!
Perfect
yup frame is just white wood pickets are pressure treated
Should measure corner to corner diagonally both ways to square up. Put diagonally antisag board, over kill both ways and cut half way through each so they pass on top each other.
Any way you could provide measurements for a newbie here?
It looks good, but It's not going to last long.
First of all it looks like you used regular SPF lumber. That's going to rot.
Second and more importantly the design is wrong. You are going to have the same problem you had with the other gate. The weight is basically being supported by the hinges and the screws. Which is no good especially if you are using untreated wood. You should have a diagonal brace from the top latch side to the bottom hinge side. That will keep it from sagging.
Z style with top
Post header. Good video
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how much smaller should the door be than the frame
When you pre drill the fence frame what size of drill bit do you use and do you also pre drill the panel
Just use a drill bit thats smaller than the screws you are using.
Should put in exterior glue and fix alignment correction
I probably should've turned to something else as soon as you said you only had an hour. Like Mr. Park l build gates and like him I half lap the frame but there are things l would've done differently. Gate frame taller to support the top of the pickets better. Unless the cedar pickets were extremely wet l would've spaced them 1/16 between pickets. Lastly buy actual (quality) gate hardware and take the time to install it, your customer will gladly pay the additional cost, not to mention recommend you to neighbors.
Hey thanks for your comment! I put a lot into these gates and my customers love them but there is always room for improvement so thanks!
@@handymanjourney Very diplomatic.
Piss off, Susan. The kid did a great job.
What did you charge for that job?
The construction was not bad but your materials will not last in the eliments. I always use treated lumber and exterior screws and bolts on each board. Sorry to say your gate will not last 5 years
Byron Dobberstine I appreciate your comment! Most fences around me are built using this wood. It is not a very wet climate here. So this wood holds up pretty well. Does it rain a lot where your are in Texas Byron?
Honest Lee Handyman yes it dose I did not consider that
Ya, its like crazy dry, but I do agree that Pressure treated wood would last much longer but as it is here this wood lasts a long time! Thanks for your comment Byron!
My gate is sagging and there is a big gap in between the gate and the latch. Do I need a new gate or can this be repaired? We tried intalling new henges but the gate is still sagging.
How wide is the gate?Does it have a diagonal brace ?
what torx screws brand are you using
Miracle Hinges?? where do you get those?
Pet peeve alert! The vertical measure of something is height (heigh-T) not heigh-th. With that being said, your design with mitered corners and mitered corner braces using a quality miter saw means a fast and square gate with very little fuss. Also, I bet your customers appreciate how quick, easy, and clean your product is. Nice job!
Splendidly to see Woodglut have new plans which helped me save some money and energy for this construction.
Make it wooden with the help of the woodglut instructions.
Looks like construction screws not for outside. Check box.
a "Z" frame gate is the strongest no sag gate you can build. the top and bottom rail should go all the way accross to the post. and the hinge should mount on the top and bottom rail only. 45ing the corners makes the gate weak. having only one diagnal brace going from the bottom on the hinge side to the top on the latch side is the strongest the gate can be. Having 4 corner braces is not evan close to being as strong as one brace accross the whole gate. Sad but true
This video could be seen better, it look very dark. But it's ok, tha gate look great.
Flip the 2x4 while you cut it and you don't have to swing the saw every cut
Wrong screws those are for indoors not outside especially for a fence you want to use galvanized screws for decking or fencing they don't rust. Your screws could and would rust over time and you'll have to redo it .
That’s a 500 fence easy depending of the neighborhood and te home owner I’m in Sacramento as well let’s meet sometime I’m working on getting my business license then contractors license so send me a message we can learn a lot from each other
Hey, Ya! I would love to meet up! We are planning a Sacramento Meet up at the end of August! Are you part of the facebook mastermind group?
If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have the time to do it again?
Serge Shariy I agree! You should always do it right the first time! How do you build Gates?
I haven't done one yet. But I'm taking your design and running with it.
Serge Shariy awesome man! I love this design! Been using it for a while and it makes the strongest gates!
Plus it should be handles on both sides and also so you could open from both sides not just one LMAO 😅😅
My Dog was watching this and he said "Ruff Ruff"
You even give 'Wood Butchers' a bad name ffs
What are the dimensions on your gate frame
Hey Sam, I believe this gave frame was 30 in wide and then as far as tall I usually make them a couple inches from the top and the bottom other fence pickets. Put the width of your gate frame will differ depending on the opening of the original gate. Thanks and have a great week!
Great job! As for “over build”, I’ll take that over cheesy, POS gates the builder used in our entire neighborhood any day. Half of us ended up replacing our gates, and in some case our entire fences after about 7 years. Low end materials and shoddy workmanship in what was advertised as a high end development. That builder is now out of business. Go figure.
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Love Milwaukee!!
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That's kinda weak looking brother. No middle brace and tiny hinges... Those corner braces should be more like 30inches depending on your halfway mark.
No glue?
I haven't ever tried glue on these joints. Do you use glue?
Yeah man on everything exterior, I prefer 8x construction adhesive so even if( and when )the boards start to twist and turn over time your corners will stay true for a longer period of time.