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I don't think I have ever head a man so consistently in love with his own internal swing thought word salad and seemingly unable to explain them in understandable terms.
I knew this series with Martin was worth sticking with but it took an excellent piece of editing by Brendon to finally get something that I can understand and more importantly use.
The Long drive specialist have been trying to describe this to us for years. It’s left us with forward hand presses, trail knee flicks towards the target, body presses etc, etc etc, all of which to me are just psychological triggers to get the swing started. This describes how to add energy to the system before the club even moves which sets off a chain reaction for all the other good stuff that I think separates elite from the rest. The sword analogy is awesome. I have a door my garage which is flush with the wall and if you try to open it by just pulling on it it won’t open. I have to push the door toward the wall first then it pops open. That’s how I think of this - add energy to create a reaction.
I know golf can make you crazy, but you guys need to cut back on the "fruit loops" for breakfast.
This has been going on for weeks now. Way to ruin a once fine channel.
@@ambientpeace4586you must be new here 😂😂😂
Yeah, this kind of high-level concept discussion can be confusing to beginners and amateurs. Stick with it, you’ll get it eventually
I've personally seen martin hit frozen ropes every shot. You would pick up your jaw off the ground and beg him to help you. And it's all here for free if you use your brain.
Actually this merlin sword thing works!
All the tour pros? I just don't think you can generalise like this without data and proof. Pros are 0.1% of athletically gifted human beings so they can hit the golf consistently well. The rest of us will have varying degrees of success.
The evidence has been collected by the guys who collect pressure plate data. All of them start their swing by putting pressure in their right foot, i.e. pushing away from the ground before the club moves. Some have forward press that is visible at the same time like Henrik or Matt Wolff but all of them do it.
Hi Brendan,
This is one of those things that so many people talk about and it is often misunderstood. I see it as lengthening to gain structure. If you have a constant structure, the consistent bottom will be easier to find. I like lengthening of the lead arm rather than tension, because people already tend to have excessive tension. This is definitely a ball striker move!
This is malaska’s first move with pushing the handle down which pops the club up when don with trail wrist extension.
Seniors sometimes need less structure in that lead arm because they need the elbow it as a power source.
Fun stuff.
Hope all is well!
Alan
It's bizarre this video appeared in my feed at this time, because I only got the missing link in Martin's genial take on the golf swing yesterday! Up until then
I couldn't get: how; one could push the club forward and swing back at the same time.
But what is NOT mentioned here I believe; but is covered in another of Martin's videos is the importance of having subtle thumb pad pressure on the sides of the handle, this enables with correct body pressures to be able to hurl the club on its orbit in unison with the body.
When you get this: OMG!
This is profound stuff.
I feel for all the doomsayers on here who are destined to a life of mediocre ball striking!
Yeah, the algorithm is sneaky
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A question about the motion. If the lower body is to work in opposition to the club being pushed into the stone, when, where and how does the lower body begin to work in opposition to the arms swinging in and creating an anatomical limitation on inside travel of the arms? My swing seems very rotational and I'm reviewing all Mr. Ayers material for swing improvement. This is my lone misunderstanding at the moment. Thank you!
We golfers are insane.
No, actually “desperate naive fools” is far more accurate.
@@lookmil107A Beautiful Mind the movie is what reminds me of golfers looking for the holy grail
I love Brendon’s channel…it reminds me of ‘The Money Game’ (1968) where the author visits a raft of top investors (‘The Gnome of Zurich’ etc etc) in an attempt to unravel the mystery of stock exchange investment. The insights are fascinating but there is no conclusive answer.
All this is Lee Comeaux territory, a lot of confusing talk.
Gravity golf's initial move is a firming up of the arms.
Aaaaw yes! My favourite film 😍 . An absolute masterpiece of cinema. Interesting discussion too!
Can you accomplish nearly the same thing with slight pushing trail hand down the shaft and then pulling up the shaft with the same intensity with the lead hand?
Thank you for the content. One quick theoretical question..If we create/maintain this drag/vector/elongation through impact, why wouldn't we hit it fat everytime?
I’m confused. I have heard discussions on this pre swing pressure, pressing with your hands to pre stretch your body. Please tell me should I actually press the shaft down/forward pushing the club head into the ground flexing the shaft? Or is it just a small forward press of the hands. Matt Wolf has a very abrupt hands and body twist. Please explain this press ?
While I believe the steering wheel is crazy. I tried the merlin forward press and played -3
This stuff seems very dense at first until you really fully immerse yourself in it. The problem is that often people like Martin or people that have ever felt the quality and force of the strike that he creates will often struggle to explain it. Especially if the person is used to the old positional type instruction. I would gather that 90% of golfer have never really "levered" a golf ball, or a tennis ball, or baseball or softball because if they had they would understand there was nothing technical about it and that they simply put all of their force onto a spot. The fastest way to experience and appreciate this is to hit shots with your non dominant side and you will quickly see just how difficult it is to put energy onto one spot. Once you are good that this you have no choice but to be good at golf because the ball doesn't move and is sitting there waiting to be struck.
Good Stuff Gents. For me: if I never give up "Where" intend to send the ball, I'm already in motion to Hurl the Club as it's pressured behind the Ball. I'm already oriented forward so I don't need to press forward. I press directly on the line I intend the club to fly. (with both ends of the club)
It's called a forward press read Hogan
Exactly, this is nothing but a simple “trigger” move used to begin the back swing. This clown Martin Ayres makes it all sound as though it’s “mystical.” What a steaming pile of bullshit. But, unfortunately there are many desperate naive foolish amateur golfers who will “pay” Ayer’s to spew this absolute nonsense.
It would seem to me it's mostly pushing the club away with the arms as the first move rather than pulling the club in, Nicklaus seems like the obvious example
What the fuck are you talking about?
Brendan, you get so many different concepts on this channel. I think you should do a comparison video of what these different concepts have done for your game and what causes you to hit the ball the best, or score the best. Do you think you will ever settle on one swing, one concept. Or will you always be searching for something different. I know it’s the whole idea of your channel, but, just wondering your thoughts.
Watching Elite Golf School's latest vid and their demo of the initial move of their "spiral" move seems to match up with the trigger method presented here.
Which video from Elite Golf School?
@@mycrazyhair their 1st or 2nd most recent... They talk abount a spiral in many of their vids though, would think Brendan would work with them eventually, think they have ties to Milo allso.
This is kind of similar to the loading the spiral concept the EGS guys talk about.
How’s that “spiral concept” worked out for you? Does the bullshit ever end?
would this be similar to drawing a bow and arrow, you point the bow down towards ground load the arrow, draw it with both hands in opposition as you transition it to the target
Yeah I think so! Like the bow is in both hands and the string is attached to the ovement of your body and you try to keep the string stretched the whole swing. The key is to be able to do it a lot without moving very much, like XANDER is doing here.
Martin has an old video describing this and its called bow to xbow, if you haven't already seek out all the older stuff hes put on youtube
@@BEBETTERGOLF …… Question: Show does that translate into an improved golf swing???
Answer: It doesn’t.
@@lookmil107 the only way to get better is to swing the club/ hit balls.
Chip shots first...then hip high, then chest high
Woulda been great if you’d have let Martin explain this?
0:30 3:25 5:10 (radius) Imagine two magnets....one on the top of the butt end and another attached to your center (belly button)
As you take the club away, the magnets have a force trying to hold them together.
We want to stretch that to it's brink without breaking it.
Its like pulling back on the pinball machine.
We want to stretch it out and the release has built in tension exploding.
We don't hold the club face, we hold the butt end.
8:57 Watch Martins handle and Center.
His handle isn't moving that far
Love that
@@BEBETTERGOLFI've been thinking about the golf swing for around 35 years....
Your channel reminds me of myself
Love your analogy as well. I'm watching it twice@@BEBETTERGOLF
You have the IQ of a turnip.
11:00 he is talking about radius. Iron Byron has a perfectly repeatable radius
12:40 He uses the word Orbit
….but it all adds up to nonsensical bullshit.
@@lookmil107 it's feel...how to interprete the feel is the whole concept of why it's easier for some than others.
Swing the club...it's that simple
Is this a re- invention of the wheel? Forward press.
It's HOW to forward press...explained obtusely of course 😆
Still not sure I fully understand what Martin is talking about, but this helped. If do however ever "get it", I think I'll be a better player.
I would have picked Rory instead of Xander for the demonstration of that move with modern players. Nicklaus is the obvious example from history. Watch Rory kickstarts his swing by pushing away from the ball with his lead leg down the same line of intention he’s going to take the club milliseconds later as he also reaches a bit for the ball. I love that move and adopted it as my trigger instead of a kick in with the trail leg which made me snatchy with the club and led to inside takeaways.
Watch Martin do it too though I suspect it’s unconscious. Just before he kicks his trail leg he makes the exact same move as Rory with his lead leg, and I doubt it’s something he thinks about or is maybe even aware of.
And then push back down that same line of intent again in the downswing after transition instead of firing off of your trail side to hit the ball. You can feel yourself doing it a bit if you’re just one handing it and following the club. It is the accelerator that Malaska mentions in his instruction though I think Martin would think of it as countering down the straight line ahead of him to take the step ahead we never do in the real motion.
05:00 McIlroy is a better example. Slight forward press brace. Works for some, but can cause some to get too rigid and tense.
Active tension is important. Bryson Dechambeau has been talking a lot about it lately. It’s like the Iron Byron Robot. The golf club to apparatus has to keep a radius that is the same throughout. I think it’s like what Hogan says in 5 Lessons. The picture where his body is electrified. Structure is key and I maybe way off here but this is what they are talking about.
So its a different type of the forward press it seems
Does that wrist moniter that you've worn in other videos collect that type of data so we can see where the tension is coming from to start this move?
gears would see it better but yeah hackmotion would should it a bit.
@@BEBETTERGOLF …Just imagine the golfer Ben Hogan would have been if he had a “hackmotion” device? Idiot amateur golfers will buy anything.
This rhymes well with Marcus Bell, Dr Kwan and the rest. Sure some have more visible forward press but all of them use the ground before the club even moves.
Hogan pushed away and then did the caddy lag takeaway almost imperceptibly and then swung it into loading it.
Percy Boomer talked about the billiard triangle, and brace, and being taut
Martin Ayers is one of the original OGs and gets it .. A lot of these dudes don’t get elastic power , free energy(free energy) - sit at 45 left in opposition of the twirl and build buttress up to send it .. loads the slings 💥 everyone doesn’t know how to be athletic and reactive to play the game … Martin Ayers is genius🔥
Watch Henrik Stenson's swing. Hes the easiest to see this move in a pro golfer.
In the immortal words of John McEnroe you cannot be serious.
Peter Crocker talks about a move like this to start the take away.
I think you mean Peter Pan…
@@lookmil107 sardonic trolling for fun? Teenagers!
@@nyegreg Has Peter Crocker actually helped you to improve? Of course not. So keep your idiotic comments to yourself.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. As Newton's 3rd law of motion states.
Or “spewing bullshit only begets you more bullshit.”
@@lookmil107 Newtons 3rd law is integral to a good golf, swing whether you are aware of it or not.
@@lookmil107keep.digging that hole.
I will tell you right now that it’s 10:45 at night. I started watching this at 10:30 and then decided I had to go out back in my net and try to feel the sword and the stone. I don’t understand why or how but anybody calling this bull crap is full of it because I just striped 5- 9 irons and then 5- 7 irons in a row with some of the best strikes of my life! I don’t get it, but there’s definitely something to it!
Hi Brendon, this is Arron in Beijing, China. We are hosting Martin here till June 2nd. He said he will be back to CZcams after that 👍
Please no.
Sounds like they are describing "extensor action" from TGM?
Congratulations you deserve one so here goes….UNBEFUCKINLIEVABLE.
@@lookmil107 my mistake, extensor action was easy to understand....Martin, as usual, is not.
Extensor action plus ‘get as far away from the ball as possible. So soled the ball is towards the toe of the club.’ Plus pivot leading on the way back as in the 7th edition.
@@golfbulldog….. Does your nonsensical “extensor action” ever make it to the first tee? Of course not.
I love your work, but you really need to switch out Martin... he is just dragging your brand into the ground.
wtf are we talking about
It is so obvious that when it the can is so then are is.
@@Melted_Butter wow an original Socrates over here
If you’re watching this week tournament in Fort Worth. The guy leading the tournament after two rounds Riley Davis leaves the club in the ground and strikes it with his feet just like Sam Snead
Martin, I would absolutely love to debate you in an open forum. Doing away with you once and for all would essentially be like “taking candy from a baby.” I could only imagine what it would have been like to stand next to Mike Maves as you spewed this pure bullshit. Hey Martin what ever happened to you teaching the spiraling of the club in the backswing allowing for the right hand to be completely “on top of the grip” at transition? Did you finally realize you couldn’t sell that bullshit?
If you understood what that move was countering, and how you could put as much energy into the clubhead’s motion as long as you could contain it with that move you would understand that it’s not BS.
Better still challenge him to hit golf balls. You'd be left in his wake. I've seen the quality of his golf shots personally here on the Gold Coast Australia.
Wow. No content on your channel. Have you got a video of your golf swing?
Verbal lessons are the least successful kind of instruction. It would be fantastic if Martin and you could demonstrate swing theory in real time while hitting golf balls from a practice area. Let's stop arguing theories and see how well you can put them into practice while striking the ball. But I doubt a Trump Turd will show off his golf prowess. All you have to offer are meaningless platitudes, much like the phony politicians on both the left and the right.
@@dougkercher3364 The video of Mils swing is a hidden gem that will never be seen by anyone outside of Mils' fantasy world of Hogan Mechanics. Put more simply, the guy's swing is fugly.