See real-world light measurements for each, and a number of other considerations including portability, cost, and more. For more on my real estate photography series see www.amazon.com...
A quick note on the light meter: This was used only for these tests, and I don't recommend using it in the field. Instead, I recommend using the histogram approach I talk about in this video: czcams.com/video/OTGFG9uWUUI/video.html
It's more involved than what I can answer in a short YT reply, but there are two things I can offer to help you out: One, I cover this in-depth, step-by-step in my online video course at ProInteriors.NathanCool.com Another option is to look through the first book in my REP series (on interiors), which covers those basics and more at amzn.to/3FA0x6g Between these you will have plenty enough information to get started using off-camera flash for REP.
Nathan, I’ve learned so much from your channel. From HDR-color cast hellscape-edit forever to awesome looking well lit shots in no time. Thank you sir.
would be great to see a video of you doing a full shoot with the 200, would be interested to see how it works for you on a shoot.. love all the videos.. great info..
Glad to see a video on the comparison. Bravo. I personally use two Yongnuo speedlights mounted side by side on a homemade handheld bracket so I can fire both in the bigger rooms. I have a third ready to mount on a stand if needed. Pretty economical and in most cases plenty of light output.
I use the 200 exclusively. I own a 600 but rarely use it. I’ve attached a speedlite pouch to one of my tripod legs and use it as a holster for my 200 with a pistol grip. The switch isn’t a problem because I only use it once per shoot. It remains on all the time and I control power from the camera mounted trigger.
I have a Think Tank pouch secured to my website where I keep my AD200 while shooting. When I am finished shooting the Think Tank pouch acts as a cover for my ARCA Swiss D4 on my tripod. Total win! Noel
I switched away from the Yongnuos myself, Nathan. Bought a Flashpoint Zoom Li-on to go with my Xplor 600, and the Evolv 200 is on its way. Got the Flashpoint R2 Pro Mk II transceiver and so far they work perfectly together. It's awesome being able to control the power from atop my camera and turn the lights on or off when I need to switch between them for different rooms. Lovin it. Can't wait to get the Evolv. I might not need my heavy Xplor anymore for most shoots.
Thanks Nathan! This video was very informative! I bought the AD200Pro instead of the AD200 because it's supposed to have fixed the problems with the switch and the screen that you mentioned. Those two changes alone seemed like they should be worth the extra $50. I still haven't used it for a real estate shoot yet, but I expect I will soon. The AD600 is so big and heavy that I don't like carrying it around any more than necessary. The AD200Pro should fit very nicely in my sling bag along with my Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II, Panasonic/Leica 8-18mm f/2.8-4 lens, a 25mm prime, and a few accessories. I might still use the AD600 for large rooms and dampening shadows for exteriors as you showed in another video, (possibly combining it with a pair of AD200Pros,) but I expect the AD200Pro will be a good workhorse for this type of thing, especially since I can open up my aperture two stops brighter than a full frame camera and get the same depth of field.
I have the XPLR 600 and speedlights, and I agree you can do a lot with both. But that 600 is hard on the back due to its weight. I think I want to add the 200 to my kit and just pull out the 600 when really needed.
Very apt as I ordered the AD Pro 600 today to supplement my Flashpoint (Godox) speedlights. I am working my way through your first book and look forward to putting the theoretical and practical together. Thank you for your videos.
Hi! I've been watching your videos for awhile. This past Friday, I put my house up for sale through a realtor. I did all the photography myself! Realtor indicated he couldn't do any better and several others realtors have commented positively to my pics (mostly around here they just either use flash alone or ambient alone.....even on high end homes! Hey, it's WV, what can I say). Still very much a newb at this but you have really helped me see how I can make my interior and exterior shots so much better. BTW, moving to FL so what out!......LOL
Hi Nathan, I absolutely LOVE your videos. You’re practically my mentor at this point lol. I even just ordered 4/5 of your books and they were just delivered today. I haven’t had time to read them yet so I don’t know if it’s discussed in your exterior book, but could you maybe do a twilight exterior tutorial of a house soon? I’m such a visual learner and at this point, I have the most trust in your methods over other youtubers twilight exterior tutorials. Thanks and hope all is well! :)
Your videos have been most informative, especially compositing images for amazing real estate images, which I've learned to apply to other genres. Next in line for your videos is to add the Flashpoint Zoom Li-on X R2 TTL On-Camera Round Flash Speedlight as part of your setup. This speedlight can be used either as a slave or as a command controller for other Flashpoint units.
Great flash review. Between the Xplor and the Zoom I think I have all the power and supplemental power I need. For content ideas, I'd love to see a real time shoot of a property or atleast a downstairs and then real time editing. Just to see what you actually shoot and then how fast you process it. Thanks for all the videos and books!
Thanks for the review. I was about to buy the ad 200 but i already shoot with two speedlights so no point changing to that. But i still need a bigger light for bigger houses...
Thanks, Nathan - very helpful, indeed. Yes, I'd love to see you do a shoot using just the AD200. I have one and the XPLR600, and the latter is taking a toll on my back! If the AD200 can be a substitute, then the Beast will be staying at home!
Thanks Roxanne. I'm curious how you like the GD400, in particular do you leave it on a stand mostly? Was curious about handholding it...didn't look like it had a handle? Would love to hear any other input you have on that light...it's one that's definitely piqued my interest.
Hi Nathan, I actually sold my 600 to purchase the 400 because the 600 was too heavy to lug around and be very quick in real estate shoots. I handhold the 400 all the time for larger rooms and just love how I have great light that doesn’t require any set up. I use my 200 for smaller homes but when I need that extra light I just whip the 400 out. I consider it one of the best buys I have made in equipment! As for the handle I just grab the light stand attachment...I do wish the grip was more comfortable. Have not put it on a stand yet...but it’s so light it will be easy to use in most situations. For light output I will admit sometimes I do flash more than once but not often.
Not sure if you read comments on older videos but as a newb researching this genre, if I have a question about RE photography, it seems you have a video with the answer or solid opinion. Thank you Sir!
Well Nathan, the 600 just came in today. I don't need to reinvent the wheel and am studying under both you and Rich. I am making my shoots look and act as close you what you do as possible. I am not shaving my head and I do shoot Canon but I hope to continue my steep learning curve and your vids and books are making it happen, albeit seeming slowly. On a side note I am interested in the amount of RAM memory you use on the editing PC?
32 GB RAM, but that's only part of it...also using 6 Intel i7 cores 3.7 GHz (12 logical processors) , and an SSD drive for my apps, which makes the biggest difference.
Hi Nathan, I'm a big fan and you've really helped my real estate photography game!! I have recently obtained a Godox XPro trigger and receiver as I have an old SB-700 Speedlight. I had one of the Yongnuo RF-603C II triggers but found the lack of high speed sync affected my window pulls (would get black bars across bottom of shot). Long story short, want some advice please if I can! Some rooms (larger windows or if it's quite bright outside) I find if I lower the SS to down around or under 1/1000 to get that window pull (the view being too bright at a higher SS), the flash isn't very bright and often ruins the window pull. Can you advise if the AD200 would be a lot brighter than the SB-700 and thus create better pulls?
Thanks! Glad to hear! I never increase SS past 1/200. If you are then you're doing something wrong. I'd recommend downloading my lighting guide, which also has tables to compare power on various lights and also various setups. Here's a link if you'd like to check that out: amzn.to/3jMjYgn
Good stuff! Do you have any comments on the Neewer Vision 4? It seems very competitively priced and might be a good choice for those on a budget. I am looking at getting one myself.
The Neewer V4 is only 300Ws (not much stronger than the AD200), built out of mostly plastic, looks bulky, and would require dumb triggers unless you move entirely to the Neewer line. Not something I'd recommend for REP, for just a tad more you can get the AD200.
Hi Nathan, what about a situation where you have two speedlights side by side on a bracket? How would their combined output compare say to an AD200 model. The reason I ask is that I had a few speedlights knocking around, different models (Nikon + RX) and Godox with integrated RX and I found a bracket where the speedlights were approx 3 inches apart. Do you think 2 speedlights would be equal to or indeed surpass the output of the AD200 model? I am sure that many RE guys have a ton of cheap speedlights knocking around and with a $10 dollar bracket it might be an alternative. Obviously, it's not as portable as a single Ad200 but in these tighter times, I wondered if it is a credible alternative?. Thanks for your great videos, they are much appreciated
A quick note on the light meter: This was used only for these tests, and I don't recommend using it in the field. Instead, I recommend using the histogram approach I talk about in this video: czcams.com/video/OTGFG9uWUUI/video.html
i just bought ad200. how do i set it up to flash at the same time as i shoot
It's more involved than what I can answer in a short YT reply, but there are two things I can offer to help you out: One, I cover this in-depth, step-by-step in my online video course at ProInteriors.NathanCool.com Another option is to look through the first book in my REP series (on interiors), which covers those basics and more at amzn.to/3FA0x6g Between these you will have plenty enough information to get started using off-camera flash for REP.
Nathan, I’ve learned so much from your channel. From HDR-color cast hellscape-edit forever to awesome looking well lit shots in no time. Thank you sir.
would be great to see a video of you doing a full shoot with the 200, would be interested to see how it works for you on a shoot.. love all the videos.. great info..
Great video Nathan! Would love to see a video where you go more in depth with the AD200.
Best comparison video of these flashes on CZcams. Thanks for all the great and educational content!
Glad to see a video on the comparison. Bravo. I personally use two Yongnuo speedlights mounted side by side on a homemade handheld bracket so I can fire both in the bigger rooms. I have a third ready to mount on a stand if needed. Pretty economical and in most cases plenty of light output.
I use the 200 exclusively. I own a 600 but rarely use it. I’ve attached a speedlite pouch to one of my tripod legs and use it as a holster for my 200 with a pistol grip. The switch isn’t a problem because I only use it once per shoot. It remains on all the time and I control power from the camera mounted trigger.
I did a fledgling version of this for myself between the TT600 and the AD200. Thank you for your thorough job. You confirmed a bunch for me.
I have a Think Tank pouch secured to my website where I keep my AD200 while shooting. When I am finished shooting the Think Tank pouch acts as a cover for my ARCA Swiss D4 on my tripod. Total win! Noel
What ThinkTank pouch is it?
I switched away from the Yongnuos myself, Nathan. Bought a Flashpoint Zoom Li-on to go with my Xplor 600, and the Evolv 200 is on its way. Got the Flashpoint R2 Pro Mk II transceiver and so far they work perfectly together. It's awesome being able to control the power from atop my camera and turn the lights on or off when I need to switch between them for different rooms. Lovin it. Can't wait to get the Evolv. I might not need my heavy Xplor anymore for most shoots.
Thanks Nathan! This video was very informative! I bought the AD200Pro instead of the AD200 because it's supposed to have fixed the problems with the switch and the screen that you mentioned. Those two changes alone seemed like they should be worth the extra $50. I still haven't used it for a real estate shoot yet, but I expect I will soon. The AD600 is so big and heavy that I don't like carrying it around any more than necessary. The AD200Pro should fit very nicely in my sling bag along with my Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II, Panasonic/Leica 8-18mm f/2.8-4 lens, a 25mm prime, and a few accessories. I might still use the AD600 for large rooms and dampening shadows for exteriors as you showed in another video, (possibly combining it with a pair of AD200Pros,) but I expect the AD200Pro will be a good workhorse for this type of thing, especially since I can open up my aperture two stops brighter than a full frame camera and get the same depth of field.
I have the XPLR 600 and speedlights, and I agree you can do a lot with both. But that 600 is hard on the back due to its weight. I think I want to add the 200 to my kit and just pull out the 600 when really needed.
Very apt as I ordered the AD Pro 600 today to supplement my Flashpoint (Godox) speedlights. I am working my way through your first book and look forward to putting the theoretical and practical together. Thank you for your videos.
Thank you so much for your honest review, after your review, I stay with Speedlight, light, and cheap.
Hi! I've been watching your videos for awhile. This past Friday, I put my house up for sale through a realtor. I did all the photography myself! Realtor indicated he couldn't do any better and several others realtors have commented positively to my pics (mostly around here they just either use flash alone or ambient alone.....even on high end homes! Hey, it's WV, what can I say). Still very much a newb at this but you have really helped me see how I can make my interior and exterior shots so much better.
BTW, moving to FL so what out!......LOL
Hi Nathan, I absolutely LOVE your videos. You’re practically my mentor at this point lol. I even just ordered 4/5 of your books and they were just delivered today. I haven’t had time to read them yet so I don’t know if it’s discussed in your exterior book, but could you maybe do a twilight exterior tutorial of a house soon? I’m such a visual learner and at this point, I have the most trust in your methods over other youtubers twilight exterior tutorials. Thanks and hope all is well! :)
Thanks for the extensive comparison!
Your videos have been most informative, especially compositing images for amazing real estate images, which I've learned to apply to other genres. Next in line for your videos is to add the Flashpoint Zoom Li-on X R2 TTL On-Camera Round Flash Speedlight as part of your setup. This speedlight can be used either as a slave or as a command controller for other Flashpoint units.
Great flash review. Between the Xplor and the Zoom I think I have all the power and supplemental power I need. For content ideas, I'd love to see a real time shoot of a property or atleast a downstairs and then real time editing. Just to see what you actually shoot and then how fast you process it. Thanks for all the videos and books!
Great video. Answered some of my questions regarding power too.
Thanks for the review. I was about to buy the ad 200 but i already shoot with two speedlights so no point changing to that. But i still need a bigger light for bigger houses...
Informative and relevant video. Thank you for putting this information together.
Thank you so much for all of your tips , I Just buying My gears and tris video Is a gold mine.
Thanks, Nathan - very helpful, indeed. Yes, I'd love to see you do a shoot using just the AD200. I have one and the XPLR600, and the latter is taking a toll on my back! If the AD200 can be a substitute, then the Beast will be staying at home!
Great Video Nathan
I went with the Godox 400...because the 600 was too heavy to carry. Great info here in this video
Thanks Roxanne. I'm curious how you like the GD400, in particular do you leave it on a stand mostly? Was curious about handholding it...didn't look like it had a handle? Would love to hear any other input you have on that light...it's one that's definitely piqued my interest.
Hi Nathan,
I actually sold my 600 to purchase the 400 because the 600 was too heavy to lug around and be very quick in real estate shoots. I handhold the 400 all the time for larger rooms and just love how I have great light that doesn’t require any set up. I use my 200 for smaller homes but when I need that extra light I just whip the 400 out. I consider it one of the best buys I have made in equipment! As for the handle I just grab the light stand attachment...I do wish the grip was more comfortable. Have not put it on a stand yet...but it’s so light it will be easy to use in most situations. For light output I will admit sometimes I do flash more than once but not often.
Great video, thanks again. I just picked up the new Yongnuo YN200 (my first 200w), come up to Portland and let's shoot a review video :-)
Thanks Nathan
Not sure if you read comments on older videos but as a newb researching this genre, if I have a question about RE photography, it seems you have a video with the answer or solid opinion. Thank you Sir!
Thank you
Thank you so much
Thank you! Love your videos!!’
Well Nathan, the 600 just came in today. I don't need to reinvent the wheel and am studying under both you and Rich. I am making my shoots look and act as close you what you do as possible. I am not shaving my head and I do shoot Canon but I hope to continue my steep learning curve and your vids and books are making it happen, albeit seeming slowly. On a side note I am interested in the amount of RAM memory you use on the editing PC?
32 GB RAM, but that's only part of it...also using 6 Intel i7 cores 3.7 GHz (12 logical processors) , and an SSD drive for my apps, which makes the biggest difference.
Hi Nathan, I'm a big fan and you've really helped my real estate photography game!! I have recently obtained a Godox XPro trigger and receiver as I have an old SB-700 Speedlight. I had one of the Yongnuo RF-603C II triggers but found the lack of high speed sync affected my window pulls (would get black bars across bottom of shot). Long story short, want some advice please if I can! Some rooms (larger windows or if it's quite bright outside) I find if I lower the SS to down around or under 1/1000 to get that window pull (the view being too bright at a higher SS), the flash isn't very bright and often ruins the window pull. Can you advise if the AD200 would be a lot brighter than the SB-700 and thus create better pulls?
Thanks! Glad to hear! I never increase SS past 1/200. If you are then you're doing something wrong. I'd recommend downloading my lighting guide, which also has tables to compare power on various lights and also various setups. Here's a link if you'd like to check that out: amzn.to/3jMjYgn
Good stuff! Do you have any comments on the Neewer Vision 4? It seems very competitively priced and might be a good choice for those on a budget. I am looking at getting one myself.
The Neewer V4 is only 300Ws (not much stronger than the AD200), built out of mostly plastic, looks bulky, and would require dumb triggers unless you move entirely to the Neewer line. Not something I'd recommend for REP, for just a tad more you can get the AD200.
Hi Nathan, what about a situation where you have two speedlights side by side on a bracket? How would their combined output compare say to an AD200 model. The reason I ask is that I had a few speedlights knocking around, different models (Nikon + RX) and Godox with integrated RX and I found a bracket where the speedlights were approx 3 inches apart. Do you think 2 speedlights would be equal to or indeed surpass the output of the AD200 model? I am sure that many RE guys have a ton of cheap speedlights knocking around and with a $10 dollar bracket it might be an alternative. Obviously, it's not as portable as a single Ad200 but in these tighter times, I wondered if it is a credible alternative?. Thanks for your great videos, they are much appreciated
Would likely work, to see flash equivalents you might want to check out my lighting guide, here's a link: amzn.to/2GW8vf0
yaaay!
What do you use for the diffuser on the xplor600? Thanks
Have you tried out the Flashpoint Xplor 300 Pro for interiors? Does it have enough power? Perhaps with an AD200 combined?? Thx
I don't see any sense in the 300, the AD400 can do more for about the same price.
Sorry If I missed it somewhere, but what kind of speedlight is it?
FlashPoint R2 Zoom, although speedlights are speedlights, I've measured very little difference between brands.
Would you recommend a round head on the ad200?
Nope, I show better options in this video: czcams.com/video/zbLvztEwKNY/video.html