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World's First Holographic Sight
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- The first ever Holographic Weapon Sight wasn't actually an EOTech, it was the Bushnell HOLOsight. But as it turns out they were made by EOTech on Bushnell's behalf. In this video we take a look at the original 1996 model of the Bushnell HOLOsight, and see how it differs (or doesn't) from a modern EOTech.
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0:00 History of the Holographic Weapon Sight
3:25 Bushnell Holosight features
6:00 Obligatory night vision test
7:30 3D rising tracer reticle
8:13 EOTech goes it alone
Cromulent links:
• Bushnell HoloSight - 1997 - Vintage Holosight Advertisement
www.notpurfect.com/main/holosi... - Cool writeup on the Holosight
Corrections:
2:47 Typo, should have been 20 years not 25 since the Vortex UH-1 came out in approximately 2017
3:43 EOTech produced an variant of the HWS called the 520 with a 3D reticle specifically for archery use. It was discontinued not long after they started spinning up production for military and LE contracts.
Forgotten weapons but for tactical gear is something I’m here for
the world needs it
yes my queen
If Ian is Gun Jesus, would that make Hop Gun Mary Magdalene? 🤔
Could watch this stuff all day
"I am here for the 'Forgotten Gear'". I saved you four words.
Making holograms is wild, having done so in college. My last physics class was the light and optics course and it just so happened my professor was all about holographic technology. His bias clearly showed in his deviation from the dept curriculum, but it did make for the best and most enjoyable physics course I've taken.
considering I forgot literally 95% of my physics course. Sounds like it was worth it.
I think the best thing that really stuck with me were non-curriculum stuff that a prof was truely passionate about
How is this comment 4 days old when the video dropped an hour ago?! Do holograms transcend time!?
@@johnston511 early access on substar
It's all about passion.
@@johnston511 physics
I want a holograhpic with motivational phrases in it
"suck less"
"curse of the desert"
Philosophy of Use: Death
"You miss all the shots you don't take"
Bushnell: "I invented the holographic sight!"
EOTech: "Sure, grandpa. Let's get you back to bed."
I created that image at 2:00. I wrote most of the wikipedia article on these sights back in the day. I had to dive into the patent drawings because there was just no non-marketing-speak information out there. They were basically secret technology at the time, and people were making wild claims about them on the internet.
That's awesome! It's gotta be the most widely circulated image to try to explain holographic sights.
Legend. Many thanks- always wanted to know how these worked and what made them different.
@@Hoplopfheil Interestingly, if you look at the comments here, a lot of people are still attached to various rumors or marketing wank about holographic sights. The internet is what it is.
Thank you, silent Wikipedia hero. I sincerely thank you for your contribution to the public domain.
It's a shame that not many companies have picked up on this kind of technology.
For real
Unnecessary. Dots are just simpler.
@@frankopanklaric also more prone to breaking if, completely useless if lens gets cracked, holographic sights have there uses and that's why they are held in high regard
It's a shame Eotech hasn't improved battery life... ever. Or at the very least joined the year 2015 and added shake awake.
A regular red dot is the better option for pretty much everyone. Eotechs are cool because they're Eotechs.
some additional cool info, reflector sight was invented all the way back in 1900. some german planes equipped them in 1918, but they really took off in the 1930s in aircraft and some naval guns. The original inventor knew it had potential as a replacement for iron sights back when it was invented, but at the time it was too large to mount to a rifle. Some spitfires even had a reflector sight that utilized a gyroscope to help pilots estimate lead.
And then Call of Duty thought it'd be funny to put it on their guns.
P-51 gyro gunsight on all my WW2 assault rifles
That's fuckin sick
@@CAL1MBO need to calculate the coriolis effect from your sick 720 no scopes lmao
@@schmiddy8433 It doesn't affect on bullets, LOL.
That rising tracer is really fuckin cool, didn't even know it was possible. Makes you wonder why nobody in the competition sphere picked up the concept
They make electronic bow sights now that display the trajectory so you can see if there is anything in the flight path. Pretty cool stuff!
This is the kind of content I love and why I'm subscribed. When it comes to guns, there's ample historical resources on just about everything from the 19th century onward. But for optics like these, there's not many ways to learn about them. I was watching another video of a very interesting thermal sight from the mid 2000s, and the company that made it was defunct and the guy making the video had to search high and low to find one guy on the internet who had a connection to that company and was able to send him the manual, but he wasn't able to even track down the power supply. It was still a fascinating watch to me. There's just something that makes me truly appreciate ForgottenOptics.
Same here, it's interesting to see all the different and obscure classic optics that led to what we have now.
Interesting to see that not much has really changed fundamentally in 30 years. Kind of makes you wonder where they've been hoarding the good "futuristic" tech from us and what we're actually capable of now
From an Optical Engineer.
Mad respect for still covering Holography material despite not knowing it.
Love the no bullshit approach and quality editing, genuinely surprised you don't have more subscribers
he'll get there
I'm all over gun CZcams and this is the first time I've ever heard of this channel
Thats why i never usually watch gun channels they waffle for 15 minutes then shoot the gun you want to seee once or twice
That sight would look sick on f2000 or xm8. It has that curvy late 90's early 2000's aesthetic.
I slapped one on top of a Bushmaster M17S
I never knew how bad i wanted XM8 with Bushnell Holo until i red your comment.
Too bad we're living in the wrong timeline
On an H&K XM8 would be slick
That's so real. It'd fit right in.
IDK why but that old school open division gun with this sight is an absolute vibe.
I’ve seen a few of those old bushnell holo’s for sale. Can’t believe they lasted this long and still work. I was unaware that the lens could be swapped out like that. Very cool!
Can't wait for Holosun to do something truly holographic so that Eotech will have to wake up and innovate again.
It's coming. Liru Optics which is basically the Chinese CCP military optic research does have a true eotech clone. Only downside is they cost more than a real eotech.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj is Liru related to Lindu? The guys who made the quadtube housing?
@@aaron4820 My bad, Lindu. Yeah that's the company. It's basically a research division for the Chinese military and their military exports.
No Holographic sight from Holosun yet but I know of a Chinese company called Laserspeed that makes two models (XL-EL3 and XL-EL4). QMQ-171 is another Chinese Holo sight and the Lindu one also exists like the other guy said. These are true Holo sights and not your knockoff LED reflector type of stuff.
Based on the fact vortex is the only ones that seem to have made anything close in 20 years and that seems to be a poor attempt odds arent looking good
I still have a couple of those original Bushnells and a handful of reticles, the one minute dot is great on a carbine, I was at that SHOT show and the no parallax compared to what was available back then was ground breaking. The main disadvantage was the weight compared to the CMore but the windage and elevation adjustments worked like the should and it was more reliable than any other red dot sight. I wish the interchangeable reticle feature would have continued as you mentioned you can switch and not lose zero.
Would you be interested in parting with some of the reticle plates? :)
I’m definitely not a “back in the good old days” kinda guy, but you have to know where you came from to know where you are and where you’re going.
And some of that old stuff is very cool, and was seriously cutting edge for its time.
Good stuff as always, Hop.
So you won't be putting a Bushnell Holosight on a Bushmaster fixed rearsight gun with a cantilever mount ?
Just as good.
Tbh this was way cooler of a vid than I expected! Didn’t have my hopes up when I read Bushnell but I was happily surprised and the history was really interesting. Good stuff
I think your retro gwot red dot and scope videos are super fun and informative, are there any more in the pipeline?
Always
I run the Gen. 2 holographic site by Bushnell to this day on my AR platform. I initially started out with it on my Romanian WASR 7.62 by 39. It's got at least 10000 rounds through it on that rifle alone. Once that rifle's barrel was done I transferred the holographic Bushnell Gen. 2 onto my stag arms model one flat top and it still sits there to this day. I run a gun mostly with Marine buddies of mine so we are absolutely putting this site to work. We run bumping and Is bounding exercises, etc.... it is absolutely seen hell and back. All the jar heads I shoot with initially gave me flack about running the site but now they are absolutely on board with the quality, also one of my good buddies works for Eotech in the metro Detroit area. He's impressed, and it's still running side by side with current models. Awesome video really like this one, thanks for making it!
I absolutely love Hop’s videos. There’s always at least 3-4 times throughout every video where he says something smart ass that makes me smile or even chuckle slightly but what your for sure to get fro Hop is an honest opinion about what he’s speaking on. No schilling for manufacturers with Hop
Deployed multiple times with an EOTECH, they’re just bombproof optics, worked for an extended time with my front glass busted awell. I love them
Man what a historic moment
Historic comment
This video is awesome, I love @Hoplopheil's dry sarcastic sense of humor and tight to-the-point historical commentary!
The rising tracer reticle is so cool. In a way it could be brought back as a way of aiming with nods if you use a higher riser. It can be utilized as a pseudo active aiming device. Especially if without the half circle to distract from the tracer beam.
All this talk about MAgic lasers and VCR's is really showing your age my friend. This is a level of production and knowledge that I can never hope to achieve. Mainly because im retarded.
But you have the best scope-camera rig in the business!
im glad to see the ancient discontinued product pages we keep around still getting views
This is the best explanation of the holo sight I’ve seen so far. I tried to search for “how holographic sights work” and this video was no where near the top of the search results. It only popped up in my recommendations later. Those in my search results, including some from the big channels, dumbed down on the audience so much and didn’t even try to explain the difference between red dots and holo sights other than saying the latter is slightly more accurate.
I didn't know you could swap out the holo-sight as you mentioned.
Learn something new each day 😆
I've got one of these on a gooseneck mount on a retro build and I love the thing. This and the gen 2 are pretty good for holographic sights that you can get for $3-400. Plus they're just neat and got that funky 90s look.
I'm loving these videos covering the origins of some of the big optic types. Keep it up!
This was the best video discussing holographic sights (EOTECHS) I've ever come across. I'm sorry I didn't click quicker. A lot of time and research went into this. Thanks
That shit looks like a cyberpunk optic
Hey hop! Been watching your stuff for a while now and really appreciate you down to earth, pick apart review or talking style. We don’t get that much on CZcams besides you and brass.
Now, given your review of many other prism optics. And you love for acogs, have you tried or have any plans to try the SIG bravo 5?
Huge field of view, a little more the the TA31 in fact, even being a 5x. And nice looking reticle with bdc, and honestly quite good glass quality for its price range.
I’ve had one since they came out and haven’t seen many serious reviews on the thing besides people just reading the selling points on screen and calling it a review.
I have two of them now, and would love to send you one to use and pick apart on your channel. I love your reviews and would love to help feed your channel some more content!
Let me know if you’re interested!
Easiest decision I have made all day was to subscribe to this channel. Humor, informative, and awesome. Thank you for the content.
This is the best video to show up in my recommended this year. Hope to see more, great content!
Really enjoying these videos digging into older optic designs.
I've been contemplating buying one of these for years as they're always popping up on eBay for next to nothing. Can't be any worse than my Gen II Huey.
Uh oh, not that great, huh? What's wrong with the huey?
@@BarnDoor-won5ve honestly I really love it a great deal. It’s nice having a holo sight with an always on option. On the lowest setting I can leave it on and just change the battery every 6-8 weeks, which is pretty cool to me. With that said, it’s just fun to make fun of it for whatever reason. I know Hop hates it cause that blue tint but personally I don’t notice it.
I'd get it just for that cool 3D reticle!!!
Would love to see if it made shooting trap or skeet any easier for me!
@@AverageJoe4063 holographic sights are awesome for shooting on shotguns. Once
You pattern out which load matches the donut. You can make good use of hitting most anything. I put an eotech exps3-0 on my mossberg 590a1 and it was incredible. I’ve since pulled that off and im now using a holosun 508t because it’s just lower profile and has a similar reticle style. Just not holographic. I’ve got a handful of the eotechs and 3 of the amg uh1’s 2-first gen and 1-second gen with NVG capabilities. It’s got great clarity in my experience. But I have seen it flicker a
Touch while transitioning from targets
I actually really, really like that rising reticle style.
I feel like that bottom post - set to be the 7 yard zero - could be a real winner; especially under NV or with PCC's and Shotguns.
It's also important to note that because of how HWS react under magnifiers, there could be potential for different zeroes under magnification; for this purpose. Someone smarter than me would have to come up with that.
Thank you, CZcams, for hiding this video in my subscriptions and sending out the notification 5 days after the video comes out, great work
I've never actually seen one of those before. Very neat. And yeah, they really did nail it first try. We were issued the M68 CCO but after a guy in our unit bought his own Eotech we were all instantly hooked. I think most of our guys just liked how cool and sci-fi they seemed but they really are just superior sights.
Hi Hop, i have the archery reticle. It is “overlapped.” As in you have dual circles that are independent and can overlap! So it is 3D in a way!
The duel circle is a 520 L80.
The one with the range tree is a
520 R16
Just a wicked bow sight....a bit large...but wicked
Thats kinda gnarly
While that is cool, that's basically iron sights with extra expense in a way.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj duel rings.
One with a center dot, one with four external posts......when it all lines up.......wambo!
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj much greater target acquisition when your vision isn’t blocked by solid metal iron sights i imagine
Stumble across these on ebay and GB every so often and wonder about them. Thanks for the deep dive, Hop!
Seeing the charging handle dance during the shoot footage was cool. Thanks for the video man didn't know that this existed and cool data dump.
This video coming up right now is so bizarre to me because I just picked up a pair of gen 1 Eotech's (with the metal hood)
Nice to see some decent content on this sight, as both mine are made in 1999. When I called Eotech they had very little information for me.
Probably had to do with L3 Harris acquisition. Historical info gets washed aside all the time in Mergers & Acquisitions because people only care about Legal Day 1 and forward post acquisition.
The comp model had a mount that you had to drill to put on a race gun high tech back in the 90s
Great video. I've always been curious about these. Thanks Hop
Thanks to your review I knew what the Bushnell Holosight was when I saw it, and subsequently got a screamin deal that included the sight. Thanks!
The air rifle they use in the 2nd Jurassic Park has one of these on it, pretty cool stuff for a 1997 movie 👌🏻
That swappable reticle is a feature i’d like to see more often. We definitely need more BDC options in this space. i actually have two Holosun HS503Gs that work pretty well, though I wouldn’t mind a holographic version of them.
these old tech videos are so damn cool. Please keep them rolling
This was a really cool piece of history. Something I would almost expect on Forgotten Weapons.
Now we just EOtech to figure out how to make a smart holographic sight. That uses the thermal signature of an object to highlight targets in your field of view, with a holographic outline. And a self adjusting reticle for your range to the target. Just need to figure out some kind of smart lens for the optic and the possibilities are endless. Kind of scary to think about.
I saw that exact ad with the custom reticle for Bruce Piatt on a copy of Guns and Ammo nagazine waaaaaaay back.
Also the same mag where the back cover was an ad for that Bushnell Holo-sight with a caption that said "The damnest thing I had ever seen". Apparently uttered by a shooter who saw one for the first time.
I would love this style of video on the RingSight that original P90s included. They're outdated tech but apparently ridiculously rugged. And you could get picatinny mounts for them.
This channel and it's info, sense of humor, movie line drops, sarcasm, is 100% BAAF value!
Loving the Sharp yet jagged language you use on your videos.
As someone who really loves holosight tech (they work with my eyes better, and look great behind a magnifier), I hope they push something forward at some point. For right now I'm more than satisfied with the EXPS/500 series optics I own, but you'd be a fool to not want things to get better.
Crazy that Bushnell had the first holosight!
They didn't
@@mrs.vasquezz who did then?
@@bigsmajl9769 Bushnell did, even though the tech behind and the sight was made by L3.
@@usernamunavailiable Made by EOTech, not L3. L3 bought EOTech later.
When're we gonna get some Hop merch? I want a shirt D:
Great vid btw, always nice to see you pop up in my notifications.
My grandfather gifted my one of his old Hoytt bows when I was younger and outgrew my childhood bow. On the bow was one of these Bushnell Holos by EoTech. It cool seeing a video on one of these relics years later.
Thanks for this cool history lesson
Hell yeah, I have a super mint 450LE that I got a few years ago and I always wanted to know the history and development of it before it became the Eotechs we know today.
Man these videos are awesome👌🏻 keep up the good work man
dude you are so good at THIS!!
Was glad to see Vortex jump in to the ring with EoTech.
Hopefully they will improve the Huey with clearer glass, a better dimming method (not through refresh rate), and better features like shake awake!
Then EoTech will really be forced to innovate!!!
One step forwards, two steps back. Dots only now.
We need these 3D reticles again, even if not "tactical".
Subscribed. Went into the bathroom knowing nothing, came out with a pretty comprehensive understanding of weapon sight, let’s go.
1:38 I can hear hop smiling here, I'm shocked to my core that he's displaying any emotion other than disgust
Very cool, I never knew that. I have a memory of being in a pawn shop around 2000-ish and there was a gun with an optic that was kind of like a red dot. It was tubular like a sawed off scope shape and required both eyes open. There wasnt a screen to look through. One eye would focus on the red dot in the tube while the other focused on the target and together it superimposed the dot onto the target and made an optical illusion where the view was as if the dot was simply floating in the air wherever you looked.
I remember thinking it was super badass and some high tech black ops alien shit or something, lol. It was super cool but I have no idea what it's called
Armson OEG / Occluded Eye Gunsight.
You could do the same with an aimpoint with the front lens cover closed, use both eyes and still hit the target.
@@robertm8401 beat me to it! "Mac" over at Military Arms Channel done a video with one, going over the history, theory behind the technology and technique, and even using it on some guns to do some target shooting/plinking
I've got two of the second gen Bushnell sights... Paid 400 for the first one at the time it was relevant. The second one I got in trade a few years ago.
They both still work, and surprisingly well.
I was on excursion in university nonlinear optics lab once where they produce and explained to us how the holograms like this one is made. I was so curious where it can be used and this is the great example
very informative. glad I clicked in this video, exactly what I wanted. thank you🙏🏼
Given the ability of a holo to be any shape you want, what kind of reticle would you want if you could have it made for you?
Chevron with BDC + the ability to switch to plain chevron, plain dot, or circle chevron or circle dot.
This seems like it should have already been made long ago.
Pinis
@@KS-yg9jr in agreement with all but the chevron, but as long as circle dot and holdovers are still available, I'd be fine with that.
A vertical phallous obviously. With range markers down the shaft and hairs indicating windage
@@lastname-Nm 💀
I remember when this first came out thinking it was just some sort of gimick for boomers who bought SOF magazine, had $19.95 jungle boots and a collection of dumb Rambo knives. It took me at least 15 years to at least try to conceive why they should be used just like my reluctance to use smart phones cuz nobody actually calls you anymore. Now it turns out that LPVOs are better so we've come full circle back to just slapping a 3-9x40 on your rifle and admitting this is the best option for SHTF. In the meantime we all made these fuckers rich so their roided up kids can have $50k worth of dumb tattoos and their wives can go to the maul for 8 hours a day.
Your recoil control is fantastic
Shoutout for posting the DiffyEQs from Wikipedia that actually helps a lot for understanding.
Gib more weird GWOT shit.
Aye aye
i fucking love gwot shit
CAS-V rail review when
“The longer we talk about this technology, the more obvious it will be that I have a liberal arts degree” 😂☠️ fucking GENIUS man.
Learned something new today.
Thanks for the video.
I don't care about building a fighting rifle but these videos about sights and optics are fascinating as hell. And thank you for not making it a 20 minute video with a bunch of pointless rambling
You clearly did zero research.
The very first hologram sights were metal protrusions on barrels that, when aligned, would indicate the general direction of the bullet. The second hologram sight was Tupac performing at Coachella in 2012.
Disappointed.
This cheered me up immensely, thank you.
Awesome! I have one of these. It’s never been mounted and is still in the box! I bought it to put on a Buckmark but have never gotten around to putting it on it. Kind of embarrassing that I have owned it for 30 years and have never used it.
Awesome video and review. Thank you.
I was wondering what the heck that was on your rifle in the Q&A post....thats pretty cool!
I still have one of those original Bushnell sights. It was my first electronic optic on an AR and stood HD duty for many years until I could afford better. It's put away somewhere, but last time I checked, it still worked. I also have three of the Gen 2s. I still use two of them. One doesn't work because the batteries leaked. These all went through batteries like crazy. Oddly, they even killed batteries when they were turned off. I learned to remove the batteries when the gun gets put away. Great reticle though and they always held zero.
Excellent video
Haven’t heard about holograms since my media classes in college, thanks for the flashback
I love these optics, the rising tracer is a lot of fun, especially under a magnifuer
Not sure if you've noticed, but the charging handle on your FDE AR pistol isn't locking in. When you were shooting it was jumping back under recoil.
what a brilliant and easy to follow video. thank you!
cool video and cool optic. have you thought about looking at some older occluded eye gunsights? they are some of the weirdest and most impractical gun accessories I have ever seen.
I had one of these I picked up at a gun show for next to nothing ages ago. but it wasn't exactly the same. it had L3 branding, and was actually meant to be used on a sight arm for a bow/crossbow where the adjustment was built in to the mounting arm itself.
what was super cool about it was that it had a concentric ring reticle where the rings were on different optical planes. this resulted in a simulated front and rear sighting ring solution, letting you visibly tell if you weren't square behind the optic. This is something I would love to see in a modern optic, but understand the complexity wouldn't probably be worth the cost for most people.
thank you for explaining the linkage.
I knew that the first holo came under Bushnell, thuss assumed, EO Tech was a subsidary.
Thanks for bringing the cool videos no one else will.
Fantastic video as always, thank you
I really enjoy your videos. Informative and sensible, without any of the cringe you get with garandthumb
This is very cool
I feel enlightened finally knowing and being able to adequately explain why a holo sight is a holo sight and why a red dot is a red dot.
That explanation also rejuvenates my idea for jamming an entire rifle reticle optimized for 6x zoom into a holosight and using a variable magnifier for longer ranges, just because I find the idea neat and nothing else.
I really hope the technology evolves further. Holosights shouldn't be as premium as they are.
Seeing this video and hit the reticles are changed, it made me realize that this is simply just a hologram viewer, and that clear plate is the hologram. It's almost criminal that they don't use the 3D nature more than pinning Infinity.
I have to admit that was very enjoyable and educational content. honestly I would like to get my hands on one of those original holo sights, and enjoy the content of the '90's era innovational tactical stuff.. I would however like to see some tactical innovations from the 1970's & and early 80's
A1 content my boy! Thank you!