The World Owes Spider-Man 3 an Apology
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YOU’LL GET YOUR APOLOGY WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR!
HE SAID THE JOKE 😲😲😂👌
TAKE MY UPDOOTS 🙌👏👏
@@over8124 Give me likes! it’s a free country but it’s not an upvote free country
I love you for this fuckn comment thank you
such a classic line
YOU'LL GET YOUR APOLOGY WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE!
Her: "Spider-Man 3 is bad."
Me: "See ya', chump."
*reverb fart
@@awildwildwesthe fart adds so much more nuance to the scene
@@saucetiny😂😂
For years I've praised spiderman 3 and have been shunned for it. Now dig on this.
that scene where Sandman was created is so underrated and aged so well even to this day
This comment combined with your username is incredible
Really amazing CGI
I was writing a character who let herself get experimented on so she could earn money for her daughter. One incident melts her into a pile of black sludge, and it remains lifeless until it's dumped into a landfill. Consciousness returns to the sludge as it tries to reincoporate itself, failing over and over, but somehow finding the strength to stand once more.
It was about the point where I referenced the MC's love for her daughter that I pushed my chair back, grabbed my head, and yelled "FUCK FUCK FUCK I JUST REMADE SANDMAN AGAIN GOD DAMMIT"
@@DetectiveTrupo203 oh yeah you got me there lol
@@amberhernandez sound like sand-venom!
I like that saying "Let myself go to the movie" that's a good mental state to be in.
It's a great state to be in. If you go into a movie looking for flaws, that's all you're gonna see, and it won't be an enjoyable experience as a result.
@@LookingGlass1865 I actually found that's how I was able to enjoy SOME of Disney Star Wars. Like the Mandalorian because I'm just enjoying it as a space adventure. People think you're just being a dumb consumer if you lower your defenses but truthfully it's the only way to enjoy life sometimes. Same with the fallout tv show. I'm glad I didn't listen to people saying it was woke and watched it.
Thought that same thing when he said that. Beautiful. Love listening to this boy talk about the movies :,)
THIS IS MY HILL TO DIE ON TOO THIS VIDEO IS VINDICATION FOR YEARS OF FIGHTING THIS FIGHT. Thank you Joel this is already my favorite video of all time
Vindicated I am selfish I am wrong, I am right I swear I’m right, I swear I knew it all along
Feel the same way, I was just baked that nobody got the point of the "bad Peter" scenes, to me it was incredibly obvious, but everybody took them "seriously" . Honestly to me, this is Spiderman
Same! I loved this trilogy when it came out, and I especially connected with the third film. I thought the concept was really neat and not to mention relatable. Since then I've heard so many people say they hated this movie and it's the worst Spider-Man film and a stain on the franchise. And me being the pushover I am, have just thought "okay, I'm sure you know more about movies than I do, so I'll trust your opinion", but I've never really let the love go. It's been, and I don't like using this term, a guilty pleasure of sorts that I just attributed to having bad taste in movies. Which I kind of used to have back then, but this was the one thing I wouldn't change my mind about.
Being the only person in my friend group who liked Spider-Man 3 was the single most traumatic thing I ever went through on that weekend
I am truly sorry for the pain you must’ve experienced
ALSO! The scene where Pete knocks Harry off his lil flying skateboard and he ends up severely injured was absolutely horrifying. Just a sudden jerk into realism after all the heightened goofiness of the chase and battle through the skies.
For the longest time, that was the only part of the movie I'd seen
Man that final scene breaks me so much. They don't kiss, nor anything like it, they just hug and dance swiftly. They could as well never get back together and just be friends, I don't know. That doubt shreds me so much. The MCU will rarely be this sincere and brave. And I say this as a comic book fan. Amazing video, Joel! Love you!
Spider-Man 3 is the best movie we could have gotten given how many hoops Raimi had to jump through to satisfy the studio's demands. Spider-Man 1 and 2 give audiences the reassurance that everything will be okay in the end, but 3 is more confrontational. I still stand by the idea that these are character dramas first and superhero flicks second. So glad people are coming around to seeing their greatness all these years later
100% agree i am so glad someone finally said it
thank you!!!!!!
People have been saying this for years, this isn’t anything new.
Rose! So happy to see you here and so happy to agree on this. I still have the haunted tamagotchi
Comments before watching:
1) Sandman forming for the first time is so beautiful.
2) Emo Peter and the dancing works perfectly because it’s someone uncool acting in a heightened way that HE views as cool.
3) Topher is an awesomely unhinged Eddie.
he's not a comics accurate Eddie but Raimi wasn't going for that. he wanted Eddie to be the nega-Peter. like what Peter would be without the influence of Uncle Ben and Aunt May.
@@saml302Topher actually talked about this in an interview. Raimi approached him about being Venom, and Topher said he was wrong for the part until Raimi explained what they were going for.
It was a very intentional choice to pick an actor similar to Toby Maguire and if you take that and the themes of the movie, Topher Grace is an amazing casting choice.
I didn't like Topher because to me he will always be the dumba$$ Erick Foreman 😂, I'm sorry 😅
@saml302 Nega-Peter? Ah, so that's why the suit is black.
I thought the dancing was stupid and embarrassing.
First the Spongebob Squarepants movie is your favorite comedy and now this? Impeccable taste, I have been trying to convince people Spider-Man 3 is a great movie for a decade now
Intelligence is not a privilege, it's a gift, and you use it for the good of mankind.
For a decade? I wonder why it hasn't worked.
the scene where peter webs the goblin bomb back at harry lives rent free in my head
In the cinema, when Harry revealed his scarred face, the whole audience gasped. I'll never forget it. It had all gone too far, and it was almost Shakespearean.
Literally me. it's cold as hell
Aww look at lil goblin junior...gonna cry?🥲
100%. The central theme of forgiveness is beyond powerful here. For any relationship, platonic or not, to last, forgiveness is essential. That is hammered in so much here, and the whole trilogy proudly wears its heart on its sleeve. It’s so unabashedly human and sincere, which is why this whole trilogy works so well and still holds up.
I truly liken this trilogy to the dark knight trilogy, where every installment is good. The third might be the “worst” in the trilogy, but it’s by no means a bad film.
The editors cut on the special edition blu ray is even better. It extends a few scenes and rearranges the villain arcs in a less chaotic way. Much smoother viewing experience
Is that version Spider-Man 3.1 or is that something else?
@@ColombianThunder it’s just called editors cut on Amazon and google play store. It was originally on the target special edition blu ray.
One of my teachers in church used Spider-Man 3 as an example of the importance of forgiveness. The venom symbiote is still how I picture revenge and jealousy in my brain.
Growing up is when you stop laughing AT the movie and you start laughing WITH the movie.
This movie is so much fun, loved the rerelease and enjoyed my time with it more than SM1 and SM2. It's a great theater experience when you get a good crowd.
Personally i actually feel the same way about 2 the way you feel about how 3 reflects on your life a bit.
Going into adulthood, family responsibilities, dealing with adhd/depression, etc, i really resonated with struggling to maintain and show up for friendships and relationships. I think 2 is such a great metaphor for struggling with depression, and it's so powerful to me, especially for what it is.
I also agree about the last shot of the movie. I still think about it all these years later. All of the previous movies on him swinging out to save the day, but this one ends on a tentative attempt at reconnection. It always stuck out to me. It's a bold way to end a superhero movie.
I love the scene where Ursula brings Peter a piece of cake. For one, it’s just such a sweet gesture and a much needed moment of pause. It wasn’t until I saw it again in theaters where I thought, she really didn’t have to do that. Plot wise, there’s no pep talk for Peter to inspire him. There’s no dialogue at all, just the sharing of a dessert together. There are these wonderful little heroic gestures sprinkled throughout the trilogy that have nothing to do with big action. I think MJ taking Peter’s hand in the last scene of Spider-man 3 is one of my favorite moments in any superhero movie. True vulnerability and true forgiveness, just what a way to end the series.
"What does it mean to you anyway?"
"EVERYTHING!"
Always thought that line delivery was so raw
*matter to you
@@ryanbigguy sue me
Wow Joel, your taste in movies is, as the kids nowadays say, insaneo style.
I’m a teacher and “insaneo style” has become the new “like”, they say it so much that it has almost lost all meaning
Sam Raimi is known for his campiness.
Suddenly his camp comes out in #3 and people freak out. He knew exactly what he was doing when he wrote that emo Peter scene.
EXACTLY.
Joel Haver is a film genius and the fact that I share the same opinion on Spider-Man 3 means that I’m also a film genius.
I’ve been saying the same thing about how Peter’s emo shtick is essentially the manifestation of his “bad” side, so of course it’s corny because he doesn’t have that much of a dark side to bring out. In the comics, there’s a reason why Peter with the Venom suit isn’t as bad as when it takes over other people like Eddie Brock. Even the concept of Carnage was “what if Venom took over someone who was already a bad guy”, so they came up with a new symbiot and gave him to a serial killer.
I absolutely loved Spider-Man 3 when I first saw it, and loved how campy it is. For me, it perfectly captured the tone of a lot of comic books from the 90s, which is what I grew up on. I was stunned when I found out people hated it and thought it was bad.
I loved it. I saw it opening night, and everyone in the theatre was laughing and cheering the whole time. It got such a great reaction and I left that night absolutely buzzing, excited to tell everyone I knew about how they needed to go see it. So the negative response it got afterwards just dumbfounded me. I still to this day don't understand anyone's complaints about it. _"Emo Peter was cringe"_ seems to be all anybody has to say. Fuckin' lame. Learn to have fun, people.
So glad you highlighted that proposal scene, it always stuck with me even before I really was able to grasp the gravity of it.
As a kid I always remembered it because it was such a chaotic scene. I feel like as a kid the juxtaposition of all those different element. It's like every actor is on a completley different page. Toby starts elated, MJ starts composed but is about to break, and the waiter is just on the outside on a totally different planet as the other two.
As a kid I found that scene hilarious but as an adult it certainly hits different. As you point out it's a great microcosm of the conflict of the whole movie.
Hearing Joel say “bye bye” is worth watching until the last second of the video every time
I think this movie really understands what it is. Yes, it's a corny, over the top, chaotic comedy. But it KNOWS it's a comedy and I feel like I am laughing along with it the whole time. It's just so fun to watch, and the chaos is so iconic and entertaining. It also has some really genuinely well made scenes. The birth of sandman is utterly beautiful, and Peter's story is actually really well told imo.
Completely agree with you, Joel. My husband and I recently rewatched all 3 at home and were able to catch the first in theaters again. I loved the 3rd. Cinema Therapy did a great analysis of the characters that helped me appreciate it even more deeply. People DO succumb to their egos and behave badly like Peter did all the time, unfortunately, and it tells a very interesting story about navigating that type of thing within a relationship. Something that's made even harder because neither Peter nor MJ can really talk about it openly with anyone else, because they both need to protect Peter's identity. So the difficulty is made even harder because of that isolation.
Seeing it again on the big screen reaffirmed my belief that Spider-Man 3 is indeed an absolute banger
After watching your video here I rewatched Spiderman 3 again, for the first time since I was a little kid. It made me tear up and I felt a huge emotional release. I recognized things in it, like you discussed, that I did not understand when I was younger. Needed that ❤🕸️
Awww I’m glad you gave it another chance, I think it’s the only Spider-Man that tells a completely different story to kids and adults. So much beneath that surface that resonates with experience.
The abandoned 4th movie sounded interesting. The main antagonist was gonna be the Vulture (which they ended up adapting for the first MCU Spider-man movie!) and I guess the premise was gonna be that Pete is maybe getting too old for this, since this decrepit bird man was able to kick his ass. Could see that plot maybe leading to a retirement of sorts.
Silly trivia is that they also wanted Bruce Campbell to be revealed to be Mysterio (who ended up in the second MCU Spider-man movie! It's like they were following a roadmap lol) and thus the implication would be his cameos in the earlier movies were all the same guy, vaguely antagonizing his enemy but never making enough of an impression on him to be recognized each time he appeared.
I felt this same way when I rewatched it with my ex-girlfriend a few months ago. We recently broke up. I'll rewatch it tonight, i think it'll be good. It's a very human movie. i agree with you Joel, that messiness is almost always present in my favorite art. Thanks for the great video, i needed to see this today!
I’m sorry to hear about your breakup, revisiting movies is a must for me through hard times❤️
@@joeltalksaboutmovies Thanks Joel. Your thoughts on the messiness of love really resonated with me in this video, thank you for sharing 💚
Highly recommend the editors cut if you haven’t seen it. Adds/replaces some scenes, scenes edited in different orders, different music in some spots, but especially it changes the scene of Harry’s decision to help Peter at the end. Even if you don’t watch the whole cut, do yourself a favor and watch that scene
Bully Maguire is the best character in all of movie history
I loved this so much. This validates everything I’ve thought about this movie since I was a kid and just got me beaming. Thank you Joel!
I recently saw people on Twitter highlight some of the changes made in the "Editor's edition" of Spiderman 3 and i really want to track that version down now. It seems like it enhances some of those moments like Peter leaning into his new persona
I remember as a kid my entertainment was always my dvd collection, which consisted of the Raimi trilogy, Ratatouille, Toy Story and Finding Nemo. I saw them all countless times but the one I always wanted to rewatch was Spider-Man 3. I couldn’t articulate why I loved it at the time, but I think it’s because I was able to see this superhero I idolised, struggling the same way I’d seen real people struggling. It made it feel like all of them could be superheroes too. Such a beautiful, powerful movie I will always adore
I totally agree with your sentiments on the movie and I really, unironically like SM3. That said, I would encourage you to rewatch Spider-Man 2 with the concepts of *class* and *community* in mind. I think Spider-Man 2 does such a great job of capturing Peter's struggles as a working-class hero, someone who's beset at all sides by desperately trying (and failing) to hold down a job, to hold down his studies, to hold down his relationship, to pay *rent*, and also to live up to his responsibilities as a hero. The scene that always tore me apart is when he comes home from a rough work day, walks into his dingy apartment, immediately faces hassle for rent, slumps down on his bed with an air of defeat, and just...switches on the police scanner. Like, in face of it all, he still has to somehow find it in himself to keep going.
And with all of that said, the sense of *community* is one of most important aspects of being the working class "friendly neighbourhood" superhero. The idea that, in spite of everything else, the city of new york is presented to him (and us) as a character in itself--one which would stand in the way of a powerful villain to protect him, one which would catch him when he falls, one which would protect his identity. I think there's a line in the first movie when they're pelting The Green Goblin with trash--"you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us". There's a true sense of community strength in New York's working class as they appear in those films.
That's what Spider-Man 1&2 mean to me, at least. I really love those films, 2 in particular.
I'm usually on the outskirts of this sort of discourse, but you do still hear it. This being trash and that being a masterpiece. These sort of ideas really propagate on their own terms way more often than on the merit of what they talk about. Quickly thrown hyperbole opinions are completely disingenuous but not really in a bad way it's just part of small talk. But they are strong in tone and conviction so they resonate a lot further than real opinions which are often less striking and/or much more wordy.
Like how many people REALLY think all that bad of spiderman 3? I couldn't tell you, but I tend to believe there's not that much negative passion to go around and most people would probably find it pretty okay at least, especially if they enjoyed the first two.
Joel talking about Spider-Man and Uncharted would have exploded me with happiness if I was still in high school. Now im just like "hell yeah"
I feel that lol
Still a very happy and satisfied "hell yeah" though
One profound experience I’ve had as a human was watching spider man 3 late at night and crying my eyes out to that ending after having a really tough day when I was about 12 . From that day on I knew that movie meant something special.
It’s so weird, after rewatching them in theaters the past couple weeks, Spider-Man 2 feels like the best made, the perfect film in the trilogy… but I kinda love Spider-Man 3 and 1 even more. The endings are so bittersweet. Spider-Man 3 was so fun and powerful simultaneously that it left me in awe throughout the entire film.
Spidey 3 is my favorite Spider-Man movie! It had such a more complex story than the other two, and had themes that most modern movies wouldn’t touch. Man now I wanna rewatch them.
He's saying the things we were too scared to say
This movie is phenomenal. If you think of the symbiote as a drug addiction, and how it can absolutely take someone over and make them something they’re not, it makes total sense. I love this movie.
This dudes happiness made me happy. Everyone always so mad these days and he’s having a blast talking about Spider-Man. Love this guy
I've been a Spider-Man 3 defender since opening night. Best Spider-Man movie I ever saw. It was hard times back then, but it's been encouraging over the years to see people come around to it. Now if only I can get people to like Batman & Robin as much as I do!
People complaining about the corny stuff going too far in Spider-Man 3 have guaranteed never seen Army of Darkness.
*A WOMAN UNDER THE INFLUENCE*
*IS THE BEST MOVIE I EVER SEEN* 😩
You gotta watch Love Streams!!!! My favorite ❤️
Haven't had to print a Retraction in TWENTY YEARS!
Thank you!!! In the theater when Aunt May was giving her proposal ring to Peter I looked over at my sister who I’d been showing these movies to in preparation for seeing the third one in theaters, and her face just- like I could see her heart break, and she looks at me and I’m a bit teary eyed too but she puts her hand to her mouth and is like “we’re just starting this movie and this lady’s already making me cry” and I think that really speaks to the heart of these films, especially with Aunt May, she’s so warm and loving and is such a source of strength and stability for Peter- and she breaks my heart every movie. One of my favorite scenes in the trilogy has to be Peter’s admission of guilt to her about Ben in Spider-Man 2 GOD just thinking about it kills me… no music, just two actors KILLING IT. Ugh. THANK YOU Rosemary Harris
Rosemary Harris isn't dead.
@@robertsavageau oh thank goodness I thought I remembered hearing that somewhere
@@ScapeVEVO You're welcome.
Yes!!!! The third movie has always had my favorite theme of the whole trilogy. Responsibility, Sacrifice, and then Forgiveness. These movies made such an impression on me in my formative years and I can’t comprehend not loving them as a collection. Also, it has to be said that the flaws Spider-Man 3 does have are due in large part to the heavy studio interference from Sony.
I miss the time when I was a kid and didn't even know nor care that people thought it was a bad movie, I just liked spiderman.
The hill that I will begrudgingly die on is that the first movie(that I liked the most as a kid) has enough pacing problems that I think it's easily the worst of the Raimi trilogy. I was asking myself that same "when does it get bad" question the whole time I was re-visiting the third movie too. I think the scene between Harry and MJ in the kitchen would've done wonders in the first movie to suggest that Harry and MJ might actually be a couple.
It’s so crazy that you released this literally right as I was sitting down to watch this movie! I was super excited to watch this video after seeing the movie and seeing all your thoughts on it! I have so much to say about this movie and no one to talk about this to so sorry if this comment is just a big nonsensical rant
I always thought this movie was flawed but I also always kind of respected it, but something about this viewing really made me appreciate just how great this film actually is! I think it builds on the first two in such a brilliant way. The first movie was about Peter becoming a hero, it was all about “with great power comes great responsibility” and the second film challenged that thesis by asking what would happen if literally everything was going wrong in your life. What if this responsibility was such a sacrifice that it literally bordered on being self destructive, is it still worth it then? What’s the line between selflessness and self harm? Ultimately, it’s a movie about coming to terms with sacrifice. “Sometimes, doing what’s right means giving up the thing you want most, even your dreams.” I could talk about that all day but the important thing is the way this sets up the third. Spider-Man 3 takes the great power thesis and instead of saying “what if this was more difficult than you thought” it says “what if this was actually way too easy?” Everything is going wrong for Peter in Spider-Man 2, to an almost comical degree, and the opposite is true in Spider-Man 3. Everything is going so right for him, but it turns out that that’s actually an even bigger challenge because the harm from that is invisible and insidious
I think Spider-Man 3 is a movie about ego. It’s about how our perceptions of ourselves and our delusions of grandeur transform us into monsters. When Harry loses his memory, literally loses all sense of his own perception of self and ego, we see his burdens become almost weightless. He literally says something like “funny how forgetting yourself can make you so happy” at the festival scene. It’s no accident that right as Harry forgets about his vendetta against Spider-Man, the man he believes killed his father, Peter behind his own vendetta against Flint Marko, the man he believes killed his father (figure). I think there’s symmetry here in the way these characters feel the need to indulge their pride. They need to hate this person who took something dear from them. They need to get revenge, they thrive off the hate. But this makes both of them into bitter, monstrous people. I actually watched the movie this my mom today and during the omelette scene she turned to me and was like “Harry is so nice to her and so handsome and so great, why does she even want to be with Peter?” And it’s right then that Harry gets his memory back and he literally breaks into her house and threatens her as the New Goblin and my mom was like “oh yeah, I forgot he’s insane.”
All the most villainous turns in this movie happen during moments when our characters’ prides are being hurt the most. There’s a clear escalation where the more Peter’s ego gets hurt, the more he indulges his ego and adopts the black suit persona. He gets the black suit for the first time when he finds out Marko is alive, which is “coincidentally” the same night MJ gets mad at him at the restaurant and ruins his proposal. He chooses to wear the black suit again when he hunts down Marko to kill him. He fully gives himself in to the black suit when MJ breaks up with him. Each time we see Peter come back to his ego like a drug, and each time he does he finds a new way to hurt someone. Harry is similar. He gets his memory back when MJ rejects him. The feeling of humiliation, the ultimate bane of ego, is what reawakens the goblin persona inside of him.
Funnily enough, the two characters who are exceptions to this trend are the two villains. Sandman’s intentions remain selfless throughout the whole story. Peter defeats him by committing the ultimate act of humility, sympathizing with your enemy, and forgiving them for their past transgressions against you. Eddie Brock is the opposite. Even before he gets the symbiote he’s already Venom. The movie doesn’t devote much time to his character because there’s nothing to explore. He’s a shallow, air headed douche bag. He doesn’t care about anything other than himself and his pride and his ego. He’s a habitual liar constantly boasting about things that aren’t true to make him look better. The first time we meet him, he tells captain Stacy that he works for the daily bugle and he’s dating the captain’s daughter, two things that turn out to be lies. He technically works for the bugle but JJJ doesn’t even know him yet, and he’s literally not dating Gwen. They had coffee one time. He photoshops his big prize winning photo, he puts Peter down and tries to steal his job for no reason, he’s an asshole to everyone around him, he’s actually trash (like Peter says lol). Peter warns him that the symbiote destroys the real you, but this isn’t a problem for Eddie because there is no real him. He’s just what’s on the outside. He dies mindlessly perusing this self destructive life style. He would rather explode alongside the symbiote than live without that power. Peter beats him by literally letting him destroy himself. And this happens at the same time Harry sacrifices himself as well, but Harry does sacrificing himself for something he loves, achieving true ego death, Brock sacrifices himself on the altar of ego.
It’s such a complicated but wonderfully complex film. Like I can’t even fully express all the ideas here, and I’m missing out on so much of the movie like the entire MJ plot line. I think people dislike this movie because it is the most challenging. It’s actually more character driven than action oriented. Sam Raimi’s dry sense of humour is at its most intense in this movie too, and the pacing feels very mundane compared to the emotional rollercoaster that is Spider-Man 2. But it’s still a great film, and a fantastic cap to the trilogy.
Sam Raimi famously did not want Venom in this movie but Sony forced him to put him in the movie because he was such a popular character so I firmly believe the scene where Peter dances around town was a direct middle finger to Sony by Sam Raimi for making him shove Venom in the movie 🤣
I appreciate the cat poster above the piano. I'm sure it serves both as an inspiration and a representation of the player, when he has a bad day and can't get the song right.
Appreciate you fighting for the film. Rewatched at the same time with my roommate and we both could no longer understand the hate.
Also, side note, Woman Under The Influence is my shit. So good.
The birth of sandman scene is still one of the greatest examples of visual storytelling I've ever seen in any piece of media, and they had to make new tech for sandmans animation and particle simulation, its awesome
You Owe people with good taste an Apology.
Dude, that whole scene of Mary Jane breaking up with Peter really really got to me. I’ve been there and that hit me hard.
I know I've already commented twice but I can't help it I comment as I watch as if it were alive video. The expression of emotion is absolutely fantastic and what made me fall in love with Tom Holland's Spider-Man in homecoming. When he was trapped under that rubble and he was literally crying and screaming for help it felt so real and to see him pick himself up from that was just such an epic Goosebump giving moment
You beautifully put to words what I found so compelling about Spider-Man 3's ending and what made me accept its divergence from how the two film's endings. And yet, each ending is bittersweet at the core, preserving that tonal essence. You're awesome.
I’m so glad I was 9 when I saw it in theaters
It was perfect as far as I was concerned.
I grew apart from it as a teenager with the TASM movies coming out and recency bias had me preferring those.
Rewatched spider-man three in theaters on monday and it was straight up magical
When i was a kid my mom took me to see Spiderman 3 in theaters even though she had no idea what was going on, then she bought the movie for me on DVD and I think I watched it three more times because I loved it so much.
I've always loved this movie as a child because it had the most action out of the trilogy but being much older and rewatching it in the theater really opened my eyes to the scenes i didnt understand and I appreciate it more now
Spider-Man 3 is better than 90% of comic book movies of the last 5 years, and probably 60% of the last 10 years. It had issues but still was amazing and treated themes of revenge and forgiveness in an unique way.
the fact that this existed and no one communicated it to me within the first hour is upsetting
I still remember seeing this movie in theaters for the first time. I was at my cabin and i had just rewatched the second one on dvd and my dad took us into town to watch the third one, and my young little mind was blown by how cool all the bad guys were lol
I love you joel it's nice to see you praise one of my favorite movies
Only you could inspire such a warm interpretation. Your passion is contagious. Cheers
I would kill to watch a companion commentary video of Joel commenting on each scene's themes and niche moments, breaking down 3.
The cgi sand always makes me cry during the birth of sandman scene.
This hill is gonna get crowded because there's a lot of us prepared to die on it.
As soon as this video ended I said out loud ‘ahh that’s a great review’. Thanks Joel really enjoyed it man
This is my newest favorite channel, love listening to whatever you like to say. Keep it up!
Memes saved this movie from being completely forgotten. 😖
One thing I personally will not compromise on is the way that Venom the symbiote character was portrayed. Sam did not understand Venom and didn't like Venom but was forced to use him anyway, and as a result removed the dynamic between symbiote and host. In this the symbiote is not an intelligent and manipulative creature with its own personality and a distinct dynamic between it and its host, where they both feed off each other. Rather the symbiote is purely animalistic and the changes made to the personality of the host are an effect of the symbiote being in their system and driving them for its own purposes. While it is implied that, yes, this symbiote does have a vendeta against peter for abandoning it and it does poses some intelligence, this Venom seems completely incapable of voicing that intelligence in the way that Venom usually is able to do. In this, Venom does not ever speak, or quip or threaten. He just snarls and roars, and he never speaks to Peter or Eddie, which is part of the appeal and a fundamental aspect of the character. That he can talk and could maybe even be reasoned with. and while I think the black suit texture design for him is cool, the fact that he is by no means the brutish stature the character is known for throughout the film is pretty annoying. It just misses the mark entirely. This in my opinion makes it bad, but I cannot blame Sam for being forced to make and deal with something he didn't personally like or get.
This is luckily what the stand alone Venom movies have mended, and while I acknowledge they aren't perfect, much like Joel's thought's on Spiderman 3, I don't think they're bad and that seems to be the general consensus about them as well. Because they gave fans of Venom what they wanted out of Spider-man 3's venom that simply was not there and that is amazing. I've loved both and I can't wait for the third one.
Very well spoken! It’s a little scary to think how many people refuse to critically think about what they’re watching. It’s healthy to challenge and be challenged
Joel exudes wholesomeness whereever he goes
Love you Joel. Excited for your next movie, i loved your last 2 especially. Hope everything goes well as youre finishing it up.
I watched the movie in its entirety when it was released for theaters and man is it absolutely entertaining throughout its runtime. It’s definitely goofy and over the top but that’s always been part of the charm of the trilogy imo. And the action was just perfect and memorable. The crane scene, the first sandman fight, the underground fight, and the last fight were all amazing to watch on the big screen
Another Joel Haver W. I've felt this deep within my soul for years but never felt brave enough to articulate it.
Also. The music and action is objectively incredible
Seeing the new reaction videos from the recent re release was spectacular
This was so refreshing to watch
Ty Joel ❤
Spiderman 3 was my first cinema film, it was a masterpiece when I was 7 and it was a masterpiece as I'm in my 20s
This is the life cycle for every bad movie in early 2000s. It's received badly, mocked, memed, then 20 years later people say that it was actually unironcally great. See the Star Wars prequels. (Which someone will now unironcally claim were great)
This trilogy is my favourite. I love the background characters in almost any scene. there’s a scene in #2 where Peter Parker is holding like 20 pizzas and goes into a alley, then swings out as spider man, with the pizzas and some guy is like “hey! Spider-Man just stole that guys pizzas!”
Definitely deserves a rewatch
I love the theme of things not having to be perfect
Idk how but you awakened memories when I saw this in 2007 and it feels like I just saw it
I think this is the first video I've seen in defense on of the movie. I really appreciate that.
Still love the Harry/Peter fight with Peter's Ring caught in the crossfire, probably my favorite in the movie
When I was in high school, i really started getting into movies. I have always been critical, and most of my moviegoing was hateing things i viewed as mistakes. Over the years, the grind of life pulled away at my time as it does for a lot of people, and movies ended up on the chopping block. I started watching you for your humor, but have really come to love your filmmaking. Hearing your opposition towards the "industry" and your positive passion for the expression in filmmaking has rekindled a joy in me. For that reason, i want to thank you, and i eagerly look forward to your future films.
the thing about eddie brock is that i feel like he’s peter if he didnt have an uncle ben or aunt may guiding him to be a good man
The worst part about this movie is that Ursula doesn't get a good ending they just all forget about her like it was nothing
Girl in movie theater laughing at all the serious scenes.
Her boyfriend: I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye.
I didn’t love Spider-Man 3 the first time I saw it, however I gave it 3 chances in the movie theater and I ended up enjoying every thing about it, the themes about revenge and forgiveness and the black suit being a metaphor for drugs or alcohol is so relatable, if you ever experienced that. Also the editors cut gave us a couple more scenes that made the black suit a little more scary addicting and Peter losing himself.
I didn't get internet until a few years after Spider-Man 3 came out so I never knew that people generally hated it. I also loved it from the beginning.