The BEST Advice For Computer Science Students
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Here's some advice/info for CS students that I wish I had known sooner:
There are lots of CS jobs out there but very few entry-level jobs, the overwhelming majority of jobs are senior level, so you are going to need every advantage you can get to actually get one of the limited entry-level positions at the few companies offering them. I would advise you start learning trending frameworks and languages as soon as you get a grip on the basics, GET AS MANY INTERNSHIPS AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE, and build a portfolio of work as you go along (a mix of solo projects and team projects from internships/classes, preferably). Another big aspect that people have talked about here already is networking. Start building relationships with everybody in your domain (students, teachers, recruiters, etc.) as soon as possible. I didn't do this and it really screwed me down the road.
Overall, the two things you'll regret the most when you're graduated and desperately looking for work are having ignored networking and not done any internships. Your shiny new degree WILL be borderline useless without having focused on these things, believe me.
Also, in terms of actually being a competent programmer, force yourself to start forming these habits ASAP: always comment your code effectively (there are entire books written on this), format your code to be readable/consistent (know how style guides work), and refactor your code often to improve efficiency/readability (always be looking for better ways to do things).
One thing that entry - level programmers can do if they aren't able to find jobs is to get a job in a service-based companies. After a year or two that person will be experienced and will get a good job.
what if some one doesn't have degree in cs ?
Hey! Do you have Instagram? Can I contact you? I wanna know more about this field but have no one who can guide me properly?
I hate the networking part. I'm a very asocial person and I hate all of my classmates because they just suck. My professors aren't that useful either, tho I am on friendly terms with them. So I find it ridiculous that the best thing we can do in college is focus on doing the actual work to get a job, while COLLEGE is supposed to DO THAT!!!! It is so bloody pathetic that we waste so much money on smth that isn't doing what it's supposed to do
I just graduated with 4x internship at Google, 1 at Uber and still haven't gotten any jobs. It's brutal out there rn
What i found most beneficial was studying in groups and working on projects with friends. You keep each other on track and can fill each others gaps in knowledge etc. Also its just much more fun.
Going to lectures and attending your courses is key in finding these connections and actually grounding a lot of the abstraction. It also gives you a routine in which you are definitely learning something at least. Just staying in your room studying can become unhealthy.
Hey could u pleas list a tips of how to make friends in that major bc it’s hard for me❤️
I have social anxiety sooooo...
@@MS31468same
@@Saffie15so get the f out of your comfort zone o hate ppl who use that bs excuse if you’re in college you’re most likely an adult so be an adult and talk to people
@@MS31468just be nice and try to find common ground don’t be to direct cause that’ll just dry out the conversation and don’t think to much of it the less you care about talking to someone the better it is
As a CS graduate, I can tell this advice is crucial for every CS student. You shouldn't rely on your professors to reach your peak instead, focus more on self-learning coz your professor is given you the key you have to open the door yourself. I've been watching your videos for a long and I've learned a lot from them most especially Java and Python.
Do u recommend that major I just graduated hs and I’m thinking about CS but I’m just scared
Sir, here I'm in 2nd year of my degree but i do NOT have any knowledge about computer whatsoever. So please can you guide me how should I start and from where will it be good....
where are you from ?
I would never have learned to code without collage. I did not have the mentality to be 100% self driven evryday for multiple years without any imidiate rewards at that age. I needed the structure, learning plans, regular mandatory tests and projects, exams, and so one to keep me on track. I also skipped lots of lectures and did lots of self learning, but I need the system around me to keep me on track and going forward.
Did u want to give up?
I do agree with you, but remember, just because that's what worked for you doesn't mean that's what will work for others!
I feel like what people are looking for in a college education is actually a dedicated mentor. Sure, you can study on your own and be good at whatever you want to be but during that process, it's super nice to be able to lean on someone with more experience to help you build confidence in the direction you're taking at any given moment.
This is exactly why college is a scam bro. I'm in my fourth semester in computer engineering and they haven't taught me SHIT that I'll need in the future. I really am considering dropping out
Hi, I’m seriously thinking of getting into Computer engineering because I like computer software as much as hardware. Can you tell me about your experience? How is it?
Hi, which college are you attending ?
@@Edob_idk if you want the one who's having a terrible time to sell you on the college experience lol
It's not always a scam but there are definitely bad profs/bad departments out there. Some colleges, you may as well be on your own. Others, you'll do and learn things you never would have on your own
Dunning-Kruger effect
Another big thing to keep in mind. The professor and your classes teach you very little. You need to be learning and doing far more than what is taught in the classroom to succeed out of college.
You're telling me that Americans pay an arm and a leg to go to University just so nobody teachers them what they need to know‽ I've studied three scientific disciplines, two of them in CS. Our professors in each field would start freshmen year all the way back at fractional arithmetic and even in your Masters degree, there's yearly programming courses for different levels
If he did not miss 80% of his classes he would get a chance to learn that teachers don't like wasting their time on "students" like him.
Excellent topic! I went to a class in a different industry and it didnt take me long to realize that no one studied beforehand. No one else was studying between lectures. When the instructor asked the class a question, quite literally no one but me knew the answer. It was interesting seeing the expectation of the students, and then seeing the class failure rate at the end. I wonder if I was the only one who had been to college before and just knew how to play the game 😀
Following the lecture notes is sometimes a must due to notations and the way the teacher explains things and this might differ from what you encounter on internet. Sometimes you can't even find anything on internet or the level of abstraction is too different.
You might end up "wasting" your time with "useless" things for your exam. However, I agree that these "useless" things can be essential outside uni, depends on what you work in, after uni.
The worst part is that in my uni, professors know people will not show up so they say something that you need to know (like how something should specifically be done/submitted/designed) in class, in the middle of a 3 hour rant of useless information and random tangents
Easier said than done. In order to teach yourself you first need to have the time to teach yourself which many students simply don’t have
I completely agree! I used breaks as ways to gain new skills.
He's talking facts. If you can learn it outside of class on your own you don't need lectures or school
That's fu__ing true I learned more from Doing Freelancing work in web developing languages then I ever got from university
My hs/college experience:
My hs is very similar to college only the classes are online and your responsible for your learning if you don’t show up to class. And resources and teaching not very reliable so I mostly tried on the internet. I did not have the chance to network w others which is the negative of my schooling, but since this is very similar to college I’m already prepared to face this depressing schooling life
Professors too busy doing their research and students making life-long debts ain't enough motivation for the teachers to start teaching with more passion
Lol I can’t expect my professor to teach me the content? Then why the heck am I going to school???
One of my professors actually does her assessments from the textbook and after years of self teaching and testing on previous profs wow it can be tough to get a good grade
But here attendance have to be around 70% 😭😭
75 to be precise:-)
Thanks Tim,
You a real one
- Rory Gates
Totally true, and I teach CS. Even though I repeat every single day to complete exercises and labs and those who focus on theory and what I'm saying in class are the ones who struggles, especially those who try to understand everything before trying.
This is why I hate having professors that require attendance. I’d rather not be forced to come to class when I can learn much better on my own.
this is applicable for physics as well as maths
Im currently a welder thinking about going into computer science. I attended Fresno state university right out of HS (class of 2020) for business but ended up transferring to a trade school cuz I thought that career path wasn’t for me. Graduated from welding school after 9 months and I’ve been welding since January 2022. I’m looking to go back to school but since I’m a busy adult the only thing I can think about is online. The only options I can see myself doing online is Computer Science or Business. Since I was in business school already I know it’s easy and I can easily graduate but I don’t really see any interest to it. Computer science on the other hand seems cool and a good challenge for me. I also just started feeling eager to go back to school and get a degree. But I’m hesitant. Idk what the real reason is for me to want to pursue this degree. For one, I feel like a fraud. I coded a little bit in high school. Programmed some robot in my Computer Integrated Manufacturing class. Also worked with circuit boards. I already forgot the names and everything but at the time I was really good at creating the program then passing it onto a breadboard and then soldering the circuit board and connecting everything together. That’s about the only experience I’ve ever had with anything close to computer science. I also feel like it’s an unattainable “dream” that I came up with. All this to say, I just want some advice.😅
CS student here, Uni is definitely an interesting and developing experience. Honestly, unless education prices where you are from are absurd, don’t overthink and just join. (Please for the love of God not online though)
The fact that you’ll be able to make money on the side not as food delivery on a bicycle but rather as a specialised tradesman will also be a huge plus.
Here in the UK in my school they only teach python and bit of sql along with other computer basics and fundamentals but what they don’t do is teach you how to make efficient websites or games they just teach basics rather then pushing us into advanced topics, i self taught my self a decent amount of python and came out better then my class mates in coding, now I’m teaching myself HTML/Css and JavaScript basically all the basics for website making which they don’t teach
exactly what i say to my friends.i have studied cs in 9 th and 10 th in icse board as a elective and now shifted to hsc for 11th and 12th(it is a bit lower on teaching part so it benifits me because i have covered major of my subjects ,so now i can concentrate more on my competitive exams).i had learned java then now they are teaching c++.they struggle with the code as they try to learn the code not the concept .while coding when they are even struggling to do even 1 code i mostly finish 3-4 codes and also create my own variations of it and then even help the ones who dont understand ....and they are STILL TYPING.
It’s taken me fucking ages to learn this
Intelligence != Education
Im in year 10 now and i picked computer science aparently its one of the hardest but i enjoy styff with computer and really wanan learn coding and stuff but im also kinda fawked of its the hardest subject so im researching everything
I self taught myself python at 11. Now 2 years later I. Planning out a huge project in JS.
Bro can v come in contact i m also a self taught and planing smthing huge in web dev
Very bad advice. Following lectures is very helpful and also the entire point of getting formal education.
As well as covers what will be on the exam. Learning more on your own is good, but learn what the professor asks of you first
Always depends who is giving the lecture! Maybe I was unfortunate to get some bad professors :/
@@TechWithTim I have a degree in psychology, and attending the lectures was very helpful (i was fortunate enough to have overall pretty great professors). Afterwards i taught myself how to program over the past 4 years, and obviously it's way more "hands-on" than something almost purely theoretical like psychology, so practicing on your own time is very important. Even still, there are lots of complex or abstract concepts in CS, so it'll definitely benefit everyone to listen to a professor talk about & explain them, even if the professor is so-so it's still atleast an introduction to a concept.
Bro computer science field is evolving and is changing constantly you can't just reply on your professor to teach you everything
There are tones of outdated thing that my professor teach which is purely a waste of time
And a systematic knowledge which the most of the developers have a huge lack of.
We have to have 85% attendance
I have realized that in most of the comments, people mentioned about the importance of networking, so why won't we become each other's network? we can meet, maybe we can work on common projects together and have fun, anyone agrees with me??
Right there with you🤚💯
Up
TFW your university had daily attendance in almost every class 😫
so what do i pay them for
i’m thinking about switching my major to computer science instead of cybersecurity. is it worth it?
Wish I knew this from the start
What is the best book about computer science
This is so true
Not possible when your uni records your attendance
Tim what software do you use for editing your shorts ?? They are really nicely edited
Most likely Adobe
100000% True
Learned it the first semester.
learned it second year of first semester, only reason i didn’t learn it first year was cause i didn’t have any classes in pertaining to my major, it was just the basic ge’s like math and english and such, and the professors taught enough to pass the class but id say when it comes to classes that are pertaining to your major like a programming class then yeah you’d definitely have to take time outside of school to go deeper into certain topics. cause depending on the professor there lectures are good to get a basic understanding of general ideas but sometimes they don’t go in depth enough or cover certain topics that can be crucial for your career later in the future. especially with comp sci where its rapidly evolving
If not textbooks, then what resources are u gonna rely on to learn to be expert on computer science ?🤔
online courses, youtube courses, online pdfs
I can't do this when I'm at Cambridge University 😪
Indian professors in clutch.
Facts yall need to do coding challenge
Hi, i'm a computer science student i feel that I'm not doing it right, can u give some sources that will help me studying
There are online videos from freeCodeCamp on CZcams that covers different programming languages and CS topics. There are also online learning platforms like Coursera and Udemy for their courses and certificates, though I am not yet sure about the price and how much of those courses are free.
Me too Sir
true
Dang found this when I am about to graduate, it is super bs how little they care and how little effort professors actually put in. Everything is just reused from prior professors and handed down with different formatting. All teaching / grading is done by TA's / graders, and only when you get to super specialized 400 level classes you might have a professor that is more attentive
if you think about it, it applies to all degrees you need to study by yourself and figure things out bro trying his best for us to not go to cs college
Not going to lectures is a waste of your money if you don’t wanna go to lectures there is no point in going to college
that’s the thing though about going to college in the first place, it’s for the degree. i understand what you’re trying to say in the fact that you can learn everything on your own that the colleges teach, but the thing is, you can be the most self taught person and know the same amount as a university graduate but if you don’t have a degree jobs won’t care most of the time
Computer Science is not programming.
We have to collect know-hows
My profressor told me to sewrch up online resources lmao
i think it really depends on the professor, my introductory professor was amazing and every lecture was super worth it.
but i agree that once you have like a fundamental "intuition" of programming (don't know how to describe it) it will be better to just see what the course is about and try to learn the stuff on your own, especially with mid/bad professors.
totally agreed with you 👍👍
Lol I am doing the same
Yep, i learned this the hard way and dropped out.
You should NOT try to learn most things by yourself.
Doing voding tasks with others is amazingly helpful to speed up your progress.
And the Maths? God the FING Maths. There is no need to learn that by yourself.
Asking others when you don't understand an algorithm or why this NFA is not valid but that one is, will always be faster than breaking your head over a silent piece of paper.
I agree. CZcams offers a lot better "free" courses than most Unis these days.
I think one of the issues is then to organize that amount of knowledge. We can quickly become overwhelmed if we try to use everything.
I paid for college and then did all the work for them
in our uni 5% of our marks comes from attendance so not going to uni is not an option
I mean, if you get 100% in the class you still end up with a 95% for never attending.
Realistically, even if you end up getting a 90%, you end up with 85% in the end. Seems fine to me.
Ding ding ding ding. In 2015 my A&P class was hard as fuck. The exams actually required that you literally learned most the content in the textbook. About a 100 fellow students felt the tests were to difficult and were pissed that there were questions on the exam that were touched on during lecture. They literally felt that the should be spoon fed whatever information they might need on the exams. Enough students complained to their parents and the dean who then told they professor (a old school retired heart surgeon) to make the tests easier or he's going to end up failing 75% of his class. He ended up quiting at the end of the semester. Kids these days are pussies.
this is AWFUL advice. follow lecture as an absolute baseline and skip the book. utilize your IDE and implement concepts gradually
But didn’t you drop out?
everyone knows
Indian students :- 75% attendance is must 😢
So true
Soo, no friends, just learn ?=)
then what the heck are you paying college for? what a waste of time.
The professor is also likely wrong about a few things, so learning shit yourself is necessary. There is so much stuff that is wrong my teacher insists is true. I fucking hate it.
Computer Science and programming is impossible to know everything about because everything changes rapidly, so always make sure to confirm things you learn are true. What was true 10 years ago might be false now
I don't need lectures
As a self taught developer that has a job I have the following question: Why to spend money and time in college?
To get a proper education. It's that simple.
@@aammssaamm real projects on job that bring money will give you the only important education.
@@ArisAris-fs1ip You think so, because you don't know what a systematic education gives you. To be able to get those projects done, you need to take your time to get properly trained in complex problem solving at school and college or university. Otherwise you will not be able to come up with high quality solutions. With an education you can handle any project. I see the difference between these money hungry sh.t coders and well educated professionals everyday.
@@aammssaamm yes, those are the things that say all the boot camps and colleges that want your money to convince you.
Where are you from ?
Secret is, this is for all degrees. Your own research is how to learn. It’s rather superficial learning just what is provided. Okay go pass, but not useful thereafter.
Funny, how you, guys, are just learning how an education works. This is the skill you were supposed to be taught at school from grade 1. 😂 It's been always like this, unless you attended 20% of you school classes.
Nah In elementary in high school you can absolutely learn everything in class. The only time you need to study is to review for tests
@@wavez4224 It just says about the quality of your school. We used to do a homework from day one. High school homework would normally take 3-4 hours after school. For summer we would get a long list of books to read and a long list of math problems to solve. I personally would read half of the textbooks for the next year on top of it.
@@aammssaamm sounds like your school just made you do work for no reason. The quality of my school was fine cuz I got into a pre good university and there are no real gaps in what I’ve learned.
@@wavez4224 Sounds like my school gave me a great education and made a self-studying a fun for me, and yours was just a waste of precious time that you had to depend on pre and most likely to pay for it.
@@aammssaamm doing more work ≠ better education. I went to a public school for free. The reason self studying was never fun for me was because it was never needed as the content wasn’t that difficult. There was no point of learning stuff on my own if I know it’s gonna be explained in a class anyways. If I did learn it then I would just be bored in class.
I agree it did kinda waste my time tho so I did start skipping a lot of classes near the end. That’s the only time I really self studied so I wouldn’t fall behind. I do think self studying is pre fun now because it’s a more efficient use of my time
The point still stands tho, if you are forced to self study in high school then it’s not a very good high school. In high school you see your teacher everyday and are given those lessons and work periods to work on assignments. University lectures are more about introducing the material rather than fully explaining it so self studying is just more efficient