Is the 2019 VW Jetta GLI S with a DSG the BEST performance sedan VALUE?
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- The Jetta GLI is packing some power and style. Under the hood is a 2.0L turbocharged inline-4 producing 228 HP & mated to a 7-speed DSG gearbox. It's exterior features styling that allows it to separate itself from the rest of the compact car segment. On the inside you will find VW's clean performance oriented interior but also showcasing comfort. Is the 2019 VW Jetta GLI S the best value for the performance?
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I own this car and i love it. volkswagen makes it feel almost like a luxury car, it’s such a great normal sedan for everyday, but when you want to have fun sports mode is amazing:)
Doesn’t the L stand for luxury?
I picked up a 2019 VW Jetta GLI 35th anniversary edition with DSG for $23,000.
Nice how much did the Volkswagen dealer give you off MSRP?
Wow that’s an incredible deal since the MSRP is around $27,900!!! Congrats. I got a large discount on my 2019 VW Tiguan that I purchased in April.
xxk4rilsxx thats $5000 off
Jeff Spehar you guys in the good oul US of A get your cars really cheap
Wow! Great deal
Adaptive dampeners are ONLY in the 35th edition, not the S or the Autobahn (US models).
0-60 is actually 5.6 but it’s still a real fast boy. I love driving it everyday. Good vid
Thanks for the info and for the compliemnet.
MetaDor 5.7 for auto, 5.8 for stick.
@@ZACH_95_ 5.6 for auto.
I didn’t hear Joe mention it but a small feature on these Jetta GLI’s is ambient lighting with about 50 colors you can select from
Thanks for the assist! It's hard to remember that when it's day light.
It’s 10 colors not 50 sadly
Damn I actually like the fact that the screen/radio is pointed towards the driver seat..makes it feel like a cockpit and is very aggressive looking
Why yes, yes it is! I got my GLI S w DSG (in Silver) the Summer of 2019 and I love it. I did change out the tire/wheel combo for one-size-up Michelin summer tires, though. I agree virtually all the comments except the "soaking up of the road" part. I find the front suspension is very tight and jarring over bumps. The S does NOT have adaptive dampers that the Autobahn has (and the 35th Anniversary). Raiti seems to suggest that "even though in Sport mode" it soaks up the bumps. There is no suspension settings on the S.
Hey Joe, good job and glad you reviewed it. As what you said, good to see the diversity of cars especially the non-range toppers being reviewed. Btw Nice color too!
Thank you sir for saying that!
Wish this came out before I bought my 2019 Camry Smh. I want this.
No you don't. Ever since they got busted lying about the emissions and mpg on their cars id never buy another one. Which is a shame. Had 3 water cooled VWs in the 90's. One Gti, Golf and a Jetta Gli. All Euroed out. They were decent cars.
@@DS..69 Ya he does. It's a great car. Great mileage and power.
@@JeffSpehar-ov1cn Nope. Lol
It is a really nice driving car.
David S my friend loves his 2014 gli, fun car to drive, and he saves a lot of gas 🤷🏽♂️
Ah, the fake engine noise from the VW. When I had my Focus RS I unplugged the sound generator from the subwoofer and preferred the natural sound. I know some people who have Golf Rs that have disconnected the fake engine noise generator as well. I know some people like it but some of us do not. Nice practical sedan that performs like GTI! Thanks for the great review Joe!
In the GLI it can be turned off in the settings so you can essentially have it in sport but without the fake noise. No more having to unplug something which is nice.
I was never a fan of VW but they're definitely stepping up their game in the styling and performance the last few years.
I am so glad that you liked this one.
I have the 2019 GLI Autobahn trim with the manual. I really do enjoy driving this car. I do agree the front should either have functional brake vents or fog lamps, but that's minor.
How much did the Volkswagen dealer give you off the price? I'm looking into buying one.
Thanks for sharing your input from your ownership experience!
Great question!
I love the way he talks with his hands am I the only one ?
Missing a lot of features that are on the regular Jetta. When comparing the GLI Autobahn vs Jetta SEL Premium.
Until you drive one. Then you realize it’s the other way around. I gladly gave up a couple things like lane keep and auto cruise (which both are coming in 2021, I believe) for the performance of the GLI. An amazing car that puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Don’t think I’d say the same for an SEL Premium.
@@Pilot545 I’ve driven both. The GLI is way better but I still want the missing features.
Wondering which sedan you prefer the 2019 GLI or the Honda Civic Si?
I’ve been driving Honda Civic si for years 3 different generations. The 8th 9th now 10th but soon lease is up and I am really considering the new Jetta GLI
Somebody please do a in-depth comparison Jetta GLI 2020 vs civic SI 2020
Gli all day everyday its a much much better car all around and quicker and faster and handles better and has better transmission and better brakes
My only compliant is that fog lights should've been added to complete the front end look
Great job on the videos! Keep it up! Yes I agree with you about the back seats and the 12 volt, even my 2017 Jetta S (base model) has that feature in the back seat. Silly omission from VW in my opinion especially considering this is a GLI model. 11:40
Thanks for the compliment and ver good point!
I'm looking at some new ones too. 6spd for me though! They are really priced way better than I was expecting when I first started doing research last month. Found some barely used 2019s for around 20k and new 2020s that are between 25k and 28k. Pretty damn good deal.
I wish VW would trickle down the large cockpit display to the lower end models. Maps in the gauge cluster is a dream!
I totally agree with you!
Power Button Revelations probably will soon if you are willing to pay for it
I drive Passats, I have two! I never considered a Jetta but now since they offer the manual and a 228 horsepower turbo engine, I’m interested! Most shift paddle on VWs are plastic, get use to it!
volkswagen has the best dual clutches ...sounds good too . i like the size , look , safety features , infotainment & sound system ...just the whole car . great value
I like the 35th anniversary edition, the wheels alone are worth the slight price increase not to mention the blacked out roof and other trim bits. I honestly thought the price on this one would be less.
DCC too me is what's worth the most on the 35th. Everything else is nice, but superficial and can be added on later on if you really wanted to. DCC you can't just slap it on.
I totally agree with you!
Thanks for the info!
Moflow the price is “fair” you can wait for 4. More years for depreciation, like me. lol
Moflow you can get $5000 off MSRP
Great review! Love your honesty. Love how you complain about what some would consider "small details." Great job sir!
Thanks for saying that and letting me share them with you!
It’s not as much of a complaint as an observation.
I would personally take the manual myself a manual in sedans are few and far between these days. I know the DSG is quicker but I like the option of the six speed.
I totally agree with you Kevin!
Another great review, this may be a car I might think about buying next year or a Honda Accord Sport 2.0T, your opinion?
Thanks for the compliment Thomas. I would go Accord all day long.
Raiti is really sharp. Thanks for this. Here we are just a few days from 2021. As far as I can tell this car is the bang for the buck title holder. I might be moving back to the States and if I do I will need a car. Sheeeet, MSRP under 28k is a no brainer.
Is it true that the car is being discontinued and that 2021 is the last year VW will sell it?
Thanks man! I didn't hear about it getting discountinued.
This seems like a much better value than the Mazda 3.
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate it!
Personally, I wouldn't want it in red, but it's a nice, clean design with great proportions for a sedan. Pretty fantastic performance value for the money
I think you hit the nail on the head!
Got an autobahn with dsg. 3 things sold me with this model. 1. The moonroof. 2. The digital cockpit (and how you can see the digital gauges on the radio screen). 3. The leather. I tried my best to get a good deal but the best the dealer did was 28,700 out the door.
Just like everyone else says, this car is missing rear a/c vents and fog lights. The fog lights can be installed. Rear vents are needed even after a good tint and full blowing a/c Other than this, it is a fun little sedan.
Good info!
Great input!
Kind of bummed those of us with the Autobahn got the same wheels as the S.
I love the wheels!
Great review as always Joe. can we expect reviews of other European cars such as the Peugeot 508 or Citroen DS 9? It would be interesting
Are those in America?
They aren't in the US.
Such great detail on all your reviews and on so many cars. Your one of my top two reviewers I dont listen to anyone else. But what does it take to be choosen to fly out to the special events held by the manufacturers. Why haven't they pickup on you and your reviews yet? You should be right up there with the best!
991 carrera s it takes a couple years and you have to have like almost half a millions subscribers to make it worth their cost to fly you out and feed you and hotel etc. he isn’t big enough yet. Plus.. there are getting to be tons of auto reviewers.
APR intake and an APR stage 1 tune, you’ll love it homes!
Best part of that is that, with APR Plus, you will get nearly 300 HP with a full warranty making it risk-free!
@@johnwjeromejr wait, it doesn't forfeit the warranty? How?
@@jonathanisenhour7923 The original VW factory warranty is replaced by APR who provides the same level of protection as the original warranty. For details go to the APR website at www.goapr.com.
I just bought a 35th anniversary edition and I'd love to say it can do 0-60 in 5.2 seconds, but that's not true. It's more like 5.8 to 6 seconds. Which is faster than a wrx.
DSG?
Faster than a WRX with a CVT definitely
Incredible VW u know that Joe LOL. It pops so well so fricking well ♥️. Personally Joe u know me I would definitely go 2019 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T Manual route alongside the 2019 Camry XSE V6 / 2020 Camry TRD ♥️♥️♥️. Thanks Joe.
Accord 2.0 has no limited slip differential, and the stick shift sucks. See other comparisons which say the GLI is much better.
@@JeffSpehar-ov1cn Really I'll look into it.
Hola Joe!!, very cool this version of the Jetta, look so much better that the regular one, very sport sedan at good price. Is not more a golf with a trunk like other generations.👍
I am so glad that I could share this one with you!
The rear looks a lot like an Audi A4, which I assume it is based of
Miguel López yea they both us VW’s MQB Platform. Basically their version of a global platform that is adjustable to underpin many VW products. It’s the same method as Toyota’s TNGA Platform.
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Very nice car. And it looks like they moved the Audi designers over to VW. The old Jetta was golf.
I am so glad that you liked this one!
Nice brain teaser
Reminds me of the old Passat buddy 🍻👍
I had that same kind of feeling around it.
Would you prefer 2020 GLI Autobahn DSG or a 2020 330i for daily driving.. Is 330i worth the extra money?
Why do people want sound pumped into the cabin?
That is a great question.
I don't think that model has adjustable suspension.
Raiti, I'm gonna have to zonk you on one little detail. The S trim does not have adaptive suspension. For 2019 that was only found on the 35th edition, from 2020 onwards, the Autobahn edition.
Great review otherwise! :)
Thanks for that extra info kevin!
With this latest rendering, the GLI finally has all the GTI performance of the GTI without compromise, or omissions. The previous GLIs always were a compromise of the GTI until now. It is great now, if only it did not have the faults, reliability, durability, longevity, and cheap material in many parts, even in many of the top luxury and performance makers. Sometimes design of specific parts are fine, but cheap materials make the fail. Worst case scenario is the substandard metal fasteners in US fighter planes not up to spec for the design, made in china that had structural failures in flight. Cheap plastic/other parts break, melts, stretch/deform or deteriorate.
Many of these great cars are plagued with these problems, which flaw great cars like this.
Which is sad, because I would want one of these GLIs, because it has almost everything I would want in a daily driver car. For this car, I would have to scrutinize the many different trims and versions. Even the new Toyota Supra just got recalled... By BMW for possible defective welds. Toyota to do inspections, and possible replacements with a new, corrected car. If you are not buying a new vehicle to keep as a collector's item, investment, and not intending to alter ir modify it, or thrash it, leasing may be a viable consideration. If major problems arise, you are not stuck with the car, or the problems with trying to sell it.
If not for the above, I would a two thumbs up for many of these great cars, and would consider them myself. This would be one of them. I would otherwise seriously consider a new GLI over the Toyota and Hondas I am considering. But on the higher priced end, that BMW X4 M would be my dream car, with all the black trim.
With that being said, spart from some of the older model performance variants of these VWs, I think this is the best of the best they have design wise, if not counting the simplicity and reliability of the old ones. A personal friend of mind here, very familiar with all the import cars, over the years, working on them, modifying them, and such, used to own a shop would not get one of these new ones, which is sad. But, compared to many other brands and models that are seriously iffy, I would still endorse this GLI over many other cars, but would not expect the longevity of several hundred thousand potential miles of the Hondas and Toyotas. But with a lease, this may be visble. If you have a business, and use this for your work transportation, this may be an option.
Yeah the Honda 1.5 turbo is a great motor. No wonder why they have a class action lawsuit against them for it.
Japanese cars are always super reliable 👍
jjacob25101 good thing it comes with a great warranty sadly it’s ending with the 2019 models
@@MeltingRubberZ28 I would choose the 2.0L Civic Sport Sedan over the turbo now, but a Camry XSE over the Turbo Accord Sport 2.0T.
The VWs would be better is still made in Germany, and not Mexico, and didn't scrimp with cheap plastic parts that even BMW and others now use. I wish everything were ideal and perfect. But automotive manufacturers are in business to make money for their transportation vehicles, performance is a marketing tool, often with caveats, trade offs. Cars like Jaguar and Range Rover are awesome, but flawed and problematic. Porsches repairs, parts and regular maintenance and servicing is likewise very high. Even people with big incomes get tired of paying all the money and the hassles of of constant breakdowns and repairs. I'm just telling it as it is. If you're an enthusiast, and have the the dinero, and willing to spend it, no one's twisting your arm not to. Toyotas and Hondas have a track record of lasting several hundred thousand miles with proper care and maintenance on certain models, but even now, maybe not as much as before. Volvos were like that, too, until more recently. My lady friend has a nice 2006 Volvo S6 that is still almost like new, but that was about when they were still really good.
In general the BMWs and other similar makes made in Europe are generally better than their cars made in the US or Mexico, and Toyota and Hondas made in Japan, or the UK fir the Civic hatchbacks, and some other car brands made in Canada may in general be better than some made in the US, but there are several contributing factors for variance. Some of the problems with cars assembled in the US may be due to a high number of I different dgaf workers that may be drink, on drugs, or lacksdasial with their work.
It's we, the consumers that need to be wary and do our research and use discernment to make the best decisions for what we need, want, and can afford.
Before the I ternet, all we could rely on was word of .south, what the car magazines said, or new items in recalls, dangers, and such. Now we have so much info available, but still need to scrutinize between those unbiased, and those spi sored reviewed that may be conditioned what to relay. But even those good honest ones can give generally good feedback to help you confer your choices. Other than that, it's great to read and wat h I teresting, and sometimes amusing facts, and enjoy the eye and ear candy, knowing we get to go on virtual car shows and ride along for our enjoyment and have a free ride.
Like I think I mentioned, some thi GS are just bad design, but for those problematic, cheap, breakable parts, I know a few companies in the aftermarket address that problem making more durable replacement parts for some of the common parts. My 1984 Buck GN T shift handle had cheap plastic inside the soft vinyl cover that broke inside and would wobble. A nice billet aluminum or carbon fiber or other composite replacement if the originsl, or nice customer one would be great.
Sometimes what we see is what we get, but maybe we can find fixes and improvement to deal with them.
There are certain car brands I would never buy, so e I might still be tempted to get. This GLI, maybe with a different trim was one I might still have gone with over a Honda or Toyota, it I would probably lease it if I did. A lady friend recently bought a new Jetta, I believe an SEL? She is an accountant, and used to have a BMW and went to a frugal Chevy Spark, and kept it as long as she could until she had to get rid of it and hot the Jetta. She doesn't thraahbit, and I am .o tutoring any car related post she gives me, as well as information abroad. I believe it should last her song time. But like I said, there are so many variables. At least we know what they are.
@@user-iu7hj3vc6e I hear you. Besides a few factors, I still think this GLI in all it's variants, and the GTI, and new Jetta SEL my lady friend recently got is still a good buy, the other VW models not as much, with the information and feedback from reliable sources I have. But I would personally probably go with a Honda and Toyota. And I was raised as a diehard GM fan. No more, no matter how nice the are. I had my own problems, hassles and expenses. They are even worse than my last Chevy I got rid of. Nice cars, but not when they break down. Sometimes it's badicallybthe engine and transmission, or electrical and computer related things, other times, it's basically a bad car. And the disease is spreading to many other brands. Lots of brands tanked when bought out by other companies. So sad. If I had the time, energy, and resources, I would find a good used car and fix it up and update it with reliable aftermarket replacement and modern tech upgrades, and be a stealth car that blends in, but has most of the modern tech and creature comforts with decent performance, handling, reliability and durable dependability.
Longest comment in CZcams history.
Hey Raiti, what would you pick between this and the civic si sedan and why?
Ok Raiti, if I bought one I’d tune it but I don’t think it’d hook up well. Is there a button to turn off traction control?
Someone on Facebook Said VW Jetta GLi is an Audi A4 From Wish, LMAO!!!
You guys upload content almost every single day! That’s pretty cool... nobody does that! Keep up the good work!
Could you please review a new Passat with the 2.0t? I don’t think they use the VR6 in those anymore.
I like those seats. Should have those as an option on the GTI. Not a hater of the GTI plaid seats, but not drinking the kool aid on them either. Definitely long overdue by VW finally giving the gli the GTI engine.
Did you say it doesn’t have a sunrooof !!! I WANT THAT. FYI, I hate sunroofs because they decrease the structure strength of the car, if they break they are expensive to repair, its one less thing to worry Incase of a strong “hail” storm. on a German car we don’t need “too much tech” a lot can go wrong. Glass is glass and glass breaks .
Only problem with a red car in sunny climate is the car will turn pink in a few years
Bapster Man lol yea better keep it in garage like mine!!! I would get silver tho. Cops love red cars !
I don’t need to worry about the sun bleaching my cause I live in cloudy Ireland 🇮🇪
How would you compare it to the kia forta GT that you drove a couple days ago ?
I would like to know this too!! Hope he replies!
The obvious might be the cost of repairs & maintenance??
Corey Faiola gross those fortes have a CVT
@@2004cyrus Forte GT has a dual clutch
We in germany even don't have the Jetta anymore, and never had the GLI! Bummer!
It's always weird when a car manufacturers origin country doesn't have everything available to them...
Civic Si or VW GLI (6spd) for a daily commuter?
I am going Si!
Redline Reviews guy Sofyan loves this GLI over the Si. He said it feels way faster than the Si. If you watch his review of the GLI, you'll want to buy one for sure.
I was about to start my homework, but I guess it'll have to wait
Looks like a mid sized car now. I remember the Jetta being a compact.
I remember all cars being more compact. You are right though she has grown.
Anthony Evelyn oh definitely
Why are so many vehicles NOT coming with FOG lamps anymore???? It seems I have noticed this on many vehicles you have reviewed.
I love the look of the fog lamps on any car/SUV - very curious!!
**Also would love for you to mention which vehicles do/don't have a charging pad** THX!
I'm thinking because it is a way to cut cost. it is easier to put everything in the headlight and just go all sheet metal.
I also wouldn't be surprised that another reason why is because a lot of people use colors that aren't legal in fog lights. I know it varies by state but they say the safe colors are white, yellow, and orange but some people use pink, green, purple, red etc.
LED headlights. The fog lights really are not needed.
Laurie Lane cost cutting
Laurie Lane no charging pad here
Gotta get a magnaflow exhaust on it.
Why was VW so cheap and leaving out rear vents? How much could 2 small vents increase the price?
GTI or GLI? which one is better in terms of fuel economy
I would go GTI
@@RaitisRides oh thank you for the answer also i was thinking between civic sport or jetta GTI both w/manual transmission (i would get the GTI) but i was wondering between them but thank you again! as always nice video
@@OC9_ VW>Honda
I miss my old jetta.
How was your experience? Was it reliable? Wanting to get one.
@@xxk4rilsxx I had a 2001 and it was fun. Really good car. Had the 2.0 black on black leather auto.
Should I get this or the 2020 Kia Forte GT?
B3 gli dude
GLI is very nice,
AGREED
B3 forte has CVT get the Jetta
@@2004cyrus The base Forte has a cvt but the GT has a dual-clutch
I think the real value King is that kia forte GT2 Package, I'm actually gonna look at one this weekend. I only found 1 here in Tucson AZ. I don't love the color(redish orange) but, I wanna test drive it. I'm more interested in the red one you previewed.
gentlemen begga I really like the Kia Forte GT more than the Hyundai Elantra Sport. But for my money, the Honda Civic Si takes the cake with the stronger Manual Transmission.
@@SilverScarletSpider I don't necessarily disagree with you there. Honda do have very good manual transmissions but I still don't like the childish styling dropped in from the R that the SI has. If the SI looked more like the touring model with sporty cues here n there, I would definitely be more interested. IMO I think Honda would sell more of them. But I also think the ForteGT2 has a more premium feeling interior. I'm not saying it's luxurious, it just has a premium feel to it and let's not forget that crazy awesome warranty. All in all it seems to have a very well balanced package that may appeal to many buyers at the right price point, who don't have to settle for a crappy car.
Civic si 4dr 2019 all the way.... I don't trust vw... The si is cheaper and has adaptive dampers and way better front seats. Vw, German cars in general are not reliable, and don't last as long as a Honda....
gentlemen begga Right on brother. The Kia Forte GT and Hyundai Elantra Sport both have amazing leather seats that you would almost expect to see in Kia Stingers and Acura ILX’s while the 10th Gen Civic Si’s cloth only seats are actually a bit of a downgrade compared to the older 9th and 8th generation Civic Si interior. Personally the new Civic’s looks grew on me, the hatchback is still a little too wild though. 10 year warranties are really awesome, but in my heart, Kia and Hyundai have yet to solidly demonstrate the ability to build a car that will 10/10 never see the dealership in 10 years, but to be fair, even Toyota and Honda are struggling a bit more compared to yesteryear in 2014.
@@renemartinez2744 Jetta GLI is much quicker and has a better warranty, 6 years/72,000 miles.
Road testing through a residential neighborhood... yikes
Nice
Any recommendation for better exhaust sounds? which mode or model? Will modification the exhaust affect dealership warranty? Appreciate any comments and help!
Nothing that makes it sound like a Honda fart cannon.
Prefer a WRX to this!
Dick Hart oh yuck
People like that dsg but I'm manual for life!
Yikes, the Dodge front end is horrendous. The rear isn’t too bad at least , but gosh, their design has really lost their way.
J Mendola I love it
Fast car
I am so glad that you are liking this one Tyler.
Is this just a video pointing out everything you can see with your eyes?
LMAO!
Oof! Those rims do not fit the car.
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
No the 35th anniversary is though
I much prefer the wheel design on the 35th anniversary edition
@@ConsciousRobot there's a lot more than just that to like about it, but yes those are definitely a benefit.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 I agree, just saying
The new GLI is a great performance sedan. It also has great value.
And it comes with a long list of repairs in the future as well!
$700 for 50hp extra for Apr tune
Yep!
More like $700 for so much wheel hop you destroy your drivetrain and transmission!
It has more hard plastic than metal in this car
xOneAudience lol
It’s the best sedan
I am so glad that you like dthis one.
hauling ass through a 25 zone. Nice! But hey i dont blame you, these cars ask for it.
Thank you so much for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
Environment looks like California's.
Boy that dealersip did have a manual? 😆.
Yes it did
Terrance Moore yes
Hot dogs? You mean frankfurters.
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Jetta GLI looking good but idk
Wheels are ugly ass shit did they source them from honda?
Far Fig Neuton lmao!
Lancius evolutiousis is better
I think you may be right!
Interior is crap for this price point
Interior is pretty shit. Lots of plastics and cheaper materials. You can't even remove the rear seat head rests for cloth seats, lmao. I think the tech and performance kinda balance out the shit interior for the price these actually sell for.
Have a friend that owns a Volkswagon Jetta, he can’t wait to get rid of the thing. 😂 We have never seen that much corrosion and check engine lights in a 10 year old vehicle. I think it’s a tragedy, because other than the slightly high price, it looks really good on paper however we don’t drive on paper and those rattles drive us nuts on the highway.
Forte GT would cause this car trouble especially in regards to price.
It cant compare to the GLI in terms of performance.
This is very true.
You hit the ail on the head.
Yeah sure and a 370z is better than a 911 too. ha
Farty my ass
No. I think Hyundai and Kia does a lot better in this category.
It is some good competition!
Nope, not with lag at 300 feet and complete digital dash. Epic fail VW.
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I appreciate you watching!
Are u kidding a v w good at anything their dated like Chevy trucks. Booooo 🤮 oil leakers
No, #Dieselgate
Enough said.
WB Wayne oh Wah Wah Wah. Who cares? They all lie: I’m loving my new VW
@@2004cyrus
Keep believing that. It isn't true in all manufacturers. Enjoy your new car.
WB Wayne well I have worked in the car industry for 20 years and talk to all the higher ups and they tell us things that don’t go mainstream. Problems they find and cover up etc.
WB Wayne and I’ve owned or leased many cars. This one is good.
wheels are ugly
Going to have to give the whole car a zonk. Its hideous. The old models used to look so much better.
It's beat the shit out of your SI.
Thanks for sharing your thought!
This is true!