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- We see an influx of foreign designed and manufactured high-end stereo products in the marketplace these days. What does that mean and how does it affect US design and manufacturing companies? Have a question you want to ask Paul? www.psaudio.com...
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In the mid 90's the company I had worked for since 1970 was bought out by a group from England. We were a small power supply manufacturer that supplied military and commercial power supplies. The problem was the competition from China was beginning to impact that and our long time owner / CEO was at the point of retirement.
The new people came in, spent months doing their due diligence and bought the place. One in they made some changes and decided we needed a complete changeover. I was one of the key people and I watched while people with decades of knowledge were reassigned or dismissed. The new owners didn't understand the way the company worked and they fumbled into the ground within 16 months, in short they didn't unstand how we did things and didn't know how to change it with it all collapsing in a heap.
A month later a fellow engineer decided to start a company that would consult on power supplies, repair product that the old company had bee building since the late fifties (a lot of it military power supplies). I joined him and we contacted old customers, reactivated some of our old sales reps and started knocking on doors. We started to get RFQ's for repairs as well as getting military power supplies manufactured to fill DOD requirements. I had to set up QC, calibration procedures, and manufacturing guidelines for a outfit that had 6 people on the payroll. Trying to build 700 copies of a fairly complex power supply was not going to happen without outside help so i started to look at contract manufacturing in the Boston area.
We found a place a few miles away that could do the job and meet the requirements the government imposed on us. After ironing out several wrinkles we got all of those supplies manufactured, tested and shipped. having the manufacturing facility 3 miles away was great because issues could handled PDQ. A few months later we got a RFQ for 600 more of the same power supply so I started to ask for bids on chassis work, transformers (3 in each unit), and a somewhat complex heatsink. We had the die for the heatsink so we had to find an extruder to push out about 750 ft of heatsink stock and then find someone to machine it. Getting it extruded was no problem but the machine shop we used before was gone.
While looking for another shop I talked to one of our old sales rep and he said he could get them done in China for short money. Being custom, these heatsinks were not cheap, we paid about $30 each by the time all was said and done. He came back with a quote that was less than the raw heatsink stock alone for a fully milled and anodized 15" long heatsink (it was going to be a little over $12 ea). We knew there would be issues but the cost savings enticed us to give them the blueprints and sign the deal.
I had asked for them to supply a sample so we could make sure we were all on the same page. 88 days later the rep came buy with one heatsink and I could see there was an issue, my heart sank when he told me he had 601 more heatsinks on pallets in his garage. I sat down at my desk and worked out what had to be done to salvage them, we could not afford to wait on them to be returned and repaired. I ordered a few thousand spacers, mounting hardware for those spacers and gave them to the rep so he could retrofit the heatsinks - he and his kids did all of them over the weekend. Meanwhile I had a patch plate made to correct for a bollixed mounting alignment issue that fixed a drafting error that happened when we. All told that cost a a couple of hundred dollars but it saved us from defaulting on a shipment date. The customer was very pleased with the supplies and we ended up making a good profit on the whole thing.
The key thing I learned was it is almost impossible to control what is happening in a manufacturing plant 11,000 miles away. The oversight required probably negates any cost savings you might think your getting. Keep you friends close and your subcontractors closer unless you actually like living in interesting times.
Paul, Britain is part of Europe. You could have said Britain is not part of EU (European Union) from 29th of March 2019 due to the Brexit vote. Europe is about geography and EU is a political and economic union of countries. Britain will remain European. Same goes for Albania, Armenia. Belarus, Gibraltar, Iceland, Kosovo, Lechtenstein, Macedonia, Norway, Russian Federation, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, and Vatican City State, which are European but also not members of EU.
Will Johnson Well, I have met several Americans unaware the difference between EU and Europe. This definitely sounds to me like a case of mixing up the terms, and as you see in this blog, I’m not the only one to take notice. This was said in the video: “I know Britain is not officially part of Europe”. Britain is exactly as officially part of Europe as the USA is part of North America. Being European does in no dictionary mean belonging to an EU member state system. Besides Britain is still EU member. I’m certain you or Paul wouldn’t turn to our Norwegian, Icelandic or Swiss friends (who are not EU members) and describe them as not being European either. This is not a case of some sophisticated intentional ambiguity. Anyway, I otherwise agree with Paul’s points in this video and like his generally great videos.
Speaking facts on a particular topic can sound prescriptive. Is the UK part of the CONTINENT called Europe or is this a subject for interpretation? If you check any map, encyclopedia or geography book describing Europe, there is no doubt that UK is an "official" country of Europe.. Yes, as a European, I agree with many that EU is a threat to our independence and identity. And yes, I'm sure you can find someone in the UK saying he is not "European" anymore like you can find someone in California or New York saying he is not "American" anymore. So what? Among all my European family members, friends and colleagues I've yet to hear anyone saying he is not European however while I know lots of anti EU folks with whom I can share many opinions about the dangers of all the tiny steps undermining the uniqueness of every European country and our desire for preserving our identity being lead by a bunch of globalist bureaucrats. Europe is a continent like America, Africa, Asia, Australia and Antarctica. It's simple.
I'll stick to the definition found everywhere in encyclopedias and geography books e.g. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe, since you want to reference Wikipedia. The particular reference you provided indeed describes continental Europe as a subregion of Europe much like North America is a subregion of America. But yes, of course there are always exceptions and yes "Made in Europe" and "Made in America" are both ambiguous for some people. What probably made me write the comment was Paul's use of the word "official". Officially Britain is still today part of Europe and still member of EU, although the latter likely will change next year. And my very good friend who lives in London and is a strong Brexit supporter just told me this is how British people think of it. Anyway, enough about this topic.
@Will Johnson: Good lord man, UK is historically & geographically part of Europe... End of story! No endless amount of masturbatory monologue that you seem to wish to indulge in, will change that fact. Perhaps you should spend more time educating yourself, and less on ill-informed pontification.
We in Britain have some really good brands. KEF.. B&W.. Tannoy.. ATC.. PMC.. Arcam.. Cyrus.. Quad.. I'm sure the list goes on.. We like our audio!
Naim, Cambridge Audio, Musical Fidelity, Creek, NAD, Rega, Linn, Mission, Mordaunt-Short, Monitor Audio, Celestion, Wharfedale, ProAc, Castle Acoustics, Wilson Benesch, Marshall, Allen & Heath, SSL, AMS Neve, Soundcraft, Audient, Focusrite, Volt Loudspeakers, EM Acoustics, Logic Systems, Precise Audio, Shermann Audio the list still goes on lol!
Ruark...
British brands , but most of them are all made in China.
Not only British, those are European brands (hehehe).
@@rusedgin well, if they're British, by definition they're European since Britain is in Europe
I don’t think that’s what the guy from mouse land was asking.
made in ANYWHERE... other than China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc.. I'm good. Made in Germany, France, UK, USA, Japan all good! I refuse to spend top $$ on slave shop labor market products. Those top covers should be glass... tempered glass. Look at how McIntosh does their glass.. Transformers are also made in-house at McIntosh.. I get that PS is smaller, but that would take you guys to the next level!
We love your animation Paul, keep it going lol.😂
WOw I'm proud to be a Sri Lankan and hear this form the Great Paul McG
Paul is the best. And I want to work for PSA. #JustPuttingItOutThere
That was informative. Enjoyed it. What Paul said also explained a strange dream I had. I dreamed I went to Colorado to tour the factory. A very nice young lady was showing me around. I saw assembly... One listening room... even packing and shipping. But one room I went by with a door open I did not go in. I looked in and saw about five people sitting behind desks all holding up their hands, and with each finger would say..."one..two... three.... four..- all the way up to ten. Then, they would start all over again. I woke up wondering what that could have been?
But, watching this video just told me what that department was! Wow! "A counting!"
Thanks, Paul! Mystery solved. ;)
I am happy to see Chinese companies being a part of the design process and building some of the best microphones in production today. I love that the Russians are doing it too. That there are great things coming out of Africa and South America. It is good for all of us. We will learm more together.
HI Paul from Southwest Florida, i think the reference to mouseland Florida is actually "Disney " or the Orlando area of Florida , it could also be a reference to the movie " The Green Mile " just saying . I am a resent subscriber and very much enjoy your post's . I love music and a stereo system that has a "clean well defined sound " at home or in my car . I don't consider my self an audiophile, I just can't afford it , but Paul I really like your videos and look forward to them every day , thanks , I hope you have a nice holiday weekend as we try to stay dry down here in Florida
drew 4.6dohc275 mouseland is in fact Orlando exactly as you decoded.
Mister Q Well thanks for confirming my suspicions, I think the reference in the movie "The Green Mile " was mouseville, I would have to look . I am ashamed to say that living in Florida , i have not been to Disney in years , but I do go to the Orlando area for the hamfest up there on a regular basis. Have a great day.
drew 4.6dohc275 Look in your local goodwills and craigslist, etc. to find good deals on used hifi gear. I’ve got a pretty awesome system composed of a Yamaha AVR, Polk LSi25s, a Parasound amp, etc. for a grand total of $300. You can get deals on yesterday’s gear, and have a let’s say $5000 pair of speakers for $75 needing new foam. Incredible value.
well i have , but i don't know that anyone would consider it high end , i found a sony str-d565 and 2 psb century 600i speakers and 2 psb alpha speakers the amp was $35 and the speakers were $ 45 and 35 and a respectively and an insignia sub woofer for $15. i think its more of a home theater system but it sounds great to me as a stereo as well , im sure anyone could pick it apart but its what i can afford . i think part of the problems i have is i dont think the bands that i like to listen to put stuff out in a loss less format , i like 80's and 90's rock ect . and i like it loud but not distorted . i hate it when folks drive with there whole car rattling , all that distortion is not music , my car has the factory system in it , its 17 years old , i have replaced all of the speakers and added some sound deadening and added some cross overs and mids and tweeters no amps but the factory system was high end for the day . you don't need to spend 10's of thousands to have a decent sound system . i just wish i could afford a bit better but ... i have found a few tube amps that i am recapping and i do like the warm sound of tubes i would like to build a tube amp from scratch , maybe one of these days . thanks for the suggestion i still keep looking
drew 4.6dohc275 good luck on your search! And if you have a smart phone remember to a Google whatever you are looking at to see if it’s worth the price or if it’s better than what you have. If you find something at Goodwill, they will let you find a power outlet and test devices for power, but there is no way to hook speakers up to an amplifier unfortunately.
Couldn't agree more Paul. I'm also in the business and as much as I want to make everything in my country, it's impossible. We make some great things here, but some parts cannot be made as well as in other countries. So, just like you, we'll choose what we think is best for our customers, wherever it comes from, then final assembly is in our country. Thanks again for your videos.
Learning about audio from yourself equates to the same thing. Share the knowledge to evolve
Apogee is Made in USA. Just purchased it here in the UK. Apogee is top quality.
I love where all of this is headed. Of course, as a Canadian, I will be the first one to scream out "Go Canada" but that is in encouragement of fellow Canadians to (to use an American quote) "Be all YOU can be". If you look back 50 years ago we were a pretty backward country. Encouraging our people to have courage and faith in themselves and who they were made to be is a big thing here. For me, that carries across to every people group of the world. Everyone should be the very best "THEM" that they can. Yes, I do believe that to be truly keen on what we do we need for that to become a part of us. Where we go off the rails is when our focus is on "what is everyone else doing?" We know in our hearts what we should do and we are to do it the very best we possibly can. If we are focused on how we can do our thing better then it will always turn out to be amazing. Too many people are focused on "How can I beat my competitor" and that seems to be the root of how people end up hurt. "You do you!"
I am very happy to hear that your transformers are made in Sri Lanka. I am not Sri Lankan but used to live in that beautiful country before returning to the UK.
I agree with your answer 100%. What puzzles me is that it is still being asked. I hope Mr Mouser hears you.
I sometimes smile when I hare a proud American say "And it is MADE IN AMERICA!!!" and thinks that it have to be the worlds best.
Yes it may be "made in America" but from parts all over the world - mostly china. :-)
In a global market place it's great that hopefully everyone and every country can join in and participate. The main design and manufacturing priorities are related to product volumes, quality and price point...which then often determines ordictacts the quest for resource, materials and labour costs involved to achieve those things. So every producer shops around even within there own countries to get get the best outcomes for the least investment. Or just add cost to the end product and hope people will pay
Harman has an incredible R&D facility in Van Nuys, CA. German company ELAC has hired engineers (Peter Madnick and Andrew Jones) in Southern California to design their new speakers and electronics.
Thanks for answering Paul. Your answer was completely sensible and it does add a new perspective to how great things are made sometimes by many of the best parts. Sometimes pure may not equate to best.
Mister Q
Mr O. It's all about labor costs.
UK is in Europe all right! UK wants out of the European Union by a minimal margin but even that is bound to change when a second referendum takes place.
You are right, Paul. If you look at the top products in Stereophile or the Absolute Sound or Sound & Vision magazines (the top 3), MOST of the award-winning products are made in the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah , made in the USA with Chinese and other Asian country components.
@@danielesbordone1871 Yes, that is so true! Or , built in China re-labeled made in USA.
Britain is part of Europe. As is Ireland or Spain or Switzerland or big chunks of Russia.
WoW ! #SriLanka
It's a pain to order overseas? It's a cakewalk. I send an email with specs, I get a part 10 days later for 1/10th the cost of an estimate for the part in the US. If an American company want's to exist, is HAS to outsource parts or invest a ton of capital on an in-house manufacturing infrastructure.
Hey Paul; Happy Canada Day !!! YYZ/Mohawk/60+NOOB. Keep it REEL.Nakamichi or Teac.
Thanks Paul, another great video.
I also do business in many countries worldwide and fully agree with your comments regarding manufacturing and materials supply. Cheers.
paul what a beautiful ,precise and meaningful answer to the question.could not have been answered any better.job well done.thanks for the wonderful Q & A done by you.
Thanks!
Sourcing the best components and incorporating them with care and attention within innovative designs is all that counts. The US makes some nice gear but it is only a small part of the HiFi community. The UK as Paul says are equally as skilled and innovative and make some of the finest Audio equipment out there but no country can do it all and no country not even the US is the best at everything and Paul put that point across succinctly and fairly.
Holy moly never knew that Sri Lanka made such great transformers.
Makes me want buy your new transport even more!
I agree with what you say Paul, but the problem lies with the copiers and fakers! They are like the negative feedback for creativity, which will end up finishing everything and bringing down the product quality.
Not to be critical, but the question was about US engineering and the discussion quickly drifted to manufacturing. There is a huge amount of engineering that goes into components. A lot of that engineering goes into cost reduction rather than audible product improvement.
Tube design probably reached its apex in the late 1960s in the US and West Germany. Electrolytic capacitor R&D is continuing, but seemingly mostly in Japan (Nichicon, Panasonic, Elna). Semiconductor design is continuing in the US, and judging by specs, both analog and digital. Sadly, JFET development seem to be in decline.*
DACs: TI bought Burr-Brown (US). Cirrus (Austin, TX) bought Wolfson (English). And ESS (Fremont, CA with R&D in Kelowna, BC and Beijing, CN) is distributed.
FPGAs offer complex programmable digital hardware, which can support advanced signal processing. Xylinx and Altera (Intel) are based in Jan Jose, CA, and Lattice is based in Hillsboro, OR.
With the advent to MP3, there seems to be a decline in interest in HiFi audio, particularly among millennials.* This may also be due to less expendable income caused by income inequality.* Fewer millennials probably walk into high end audio stores, where they might be exposed to great sound. With a shrinking or aging market, fewer engineers may be inclined to invest their lives in creating awesome audio. I think the future of great audio is in DIY, with some advancements coming from professional audio.* Crowd-funded products projects have great potential.
The great audio companies started with one or two inspired engineers with one or two products and grew. They tend to grow into bloated corporations, with bean counters making the decisions.* It will be interesting to see who the next Fisher, Scott, Lansing, Halfer, Carver ... the list goes on ... will be. To be sure, it won't be someone in Shenzhen building the greatest TPA3116D2 amp.
*Personal observations; feel free to disagree.
Not to throw any salt in your game but the downside of going to all those places to get your parts is you never know when the company you're dealing with goes out of business. And therefore when the item you're selling becomes older it makes it harder to get that part from foreign countries. But I get what you're saying otherwise.
Thats no different from anything in the US. They could also go out of business. It's not hard to ship parts in from other countries even as an individual. If something goes out of business it's going to be hard to get their products regardless of where they are. And that's why you buy quality products from a quality company, so that products dying isnt something you have to worry about (or that the warranty will cover it)
qwerty22 makes sense thanks man.
Can you confirm your Sprout is made in the USA as well? If so why does it say “Made in China” on the back???
JR Sanders it does say it is made in China, but it is the best in its class.
He qualified it by saying they make “pretty much” everything in the USA. It is quite feasible to make budget electronics profitably in the US. Just ask Schiit Audio. I wonder what percentage of the company’s turnover the Sprout represents?
gotham61 Schiit audio products have questionable Build quality and durability. I’ve had nothing but issues with their products. Made in USA doesn’t guarantee anything
Your experience is not typical. I know lots of people with Schiit that have never had an issue.
gotham61
I agree ...
Schiit make excellent products. Audiophile quality at an affordable price.
I like the passion of a company that goes to the ends of the earth to get the best. Manley Laboratories in Chino, CA and McIntosh in NY wind their own transformers. I wonder if you ever tried the same?
Everyone loses ground due to globalization ... today, for some product, you don't even know who is ''his real father'' or who is ''his real mother'' ... and long ago we were proud to have the thing on which it was written ''Made... Born in USA''!
It's strange that there is a "system within a system" going on inside that case, there. Also great Toroid mounting location. Look like a prototype within, attach to a secondary processor for the outputs
Imo italy france usa russia germany and japan are top class on terms of engineering and quality control. Not in that order
Hi Paul, you spoke a lot about where you source your components from and why, and how it helps having as much as possible under one roof. Thanks. What do you make of the same question, but from an engineering perspective?
Well, Paul you say design and build in the same location is better as to if there is a problem. But look at Parasound, designed in SF and built in Taiwan. They're quality control is as good as it gets.
Whaaat? Brittain is definitely, fully, and officially part of continent Europe.
And here I thought it was an island.
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio Okay, I see. Thank you very much.
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio I guess Hawaii ain't part of the United States, then!
Mouseland- That's where Mr. Jingles was supposed to go!
Great video, Paul
Anyone else heard something/someone said “HELP” at 3:05 ?
Britain will always be European your right. We just decided to have more political independence is all. Wether it works out better is unknown 😄
decide to use you're instead of your, k, british-trumpflake...lol...
salmonline 😂😂😂😂😂
Hi Paul
I enjoy your videos and I am eagerly awaiting delivery of a Stellar 300 amplifier on Wednesday.
Anyway, I am curious as to why you use zinc for your corners. I know zinc is stronger, but more expensive, than aluminum, but do you need the additional strength in the corners?
Thanks
Is "Mouse Land" Celebration, Florida?
Or...
Orlando?
Mr. O meant Orlando!
I live in East Jerusalem - Are you importing something from here?
so the palestinian owned Jerusalem
Cost of materials, cost of labor vs cost of transportation. Like Paul says, globalization. Its here forever.
Hey how can I reduce " humming/hiss" sounds from my speaker, I have a speaker of 40W. Does it hiss because the wires overlap each other?
Are the Sri Lankan transformers even better than the ones than the ones that are wound in-house by amplifier companies like McIntosh?
love what u said, my man keep up the good work love U.S.A YEA
I thought Orlando was mouse land.
Then ur products would be labeled assembled in the USA , is tht right ?
Britain is not officially part of Europe?? What?
Many products in the UK are assembled with parts from all over the World, from cars to wind turbines, from TV to the food in supermarkets Products assembled from such parts should be labelled "Assembled in the UK" not "Made in the UK". The same should apply to the USA.
I am sure it is a commercial decision to muddy the water regarding manufacture.
A product that is designed and manufactured in the USA or the UK for that matter may well contain parts made in other countries but it is still manufactured in the USA or the UK and the manufacturer has every right to label it accordingly.
Aber Cass , you're right and another thing is that I don't want to pay high-end prices for components that are outsourced for cheap money.
Have you ever tried Schumacher transformers.?
First time I’ve watched a subscribed video with no views and just uploaded
Zachary Hoover I’m sorry, but...
🎶nobody cares🎶
theonetuby. You cared enough to create a comment with a beautifully created drop down, aren't you clever.
mag 1981 was that too offensive? I’m sorry to trigger you, but it’s a harmless joke. And yes, I cared enough to have a laugh for a couple minutes. Grow up, for this is the Internet and it’s full of trolls far worse than me.
theonetuby. I think it's time you took a break from the internet mate.
mag 1981 as a professional, there’s no breaks for me. I think a far more equitable solution is you make an effort to be less offended by random CZcams comments not concerning you. I stand by making fun of people whom think it’s important to be the first commenter. Sorry if that’s offensive. But in life, you have to learn be tolerant of what you don’t like or with which you disagree. I’ll repeat what I said earlier, but in stronger language. This is the Internet, for fucks sake.
*Edited due to fucking Apple autocorrect changing breaks into brakes.
Hi Paul. Do PS Audio have a distributor in South Africa?
Yes in a nutshell
GB is still part of Europe and it will always be part of the continent. It is not part of the EU. EU Europe.
Asia ... that small piece of land with only one people and no Japanese.
Mouse Land = Orlando.
Mickey Mouse?
Our workforce and products do not take a back seat to any other country in the world. Unfortunately, we must realize and grasp that we live and participate in a global economy. Thanks to our service personnel who's sacrifics that allows our freedom to work and purchase these high end products made in the U. S. of A.
we are part of the EU paul.just some of us cant wait to get away from it...
The Chinese have gotten to the point where they built with equal quality to the U.S.
After having lived in China for 6 years, I have to disagree. There are small, boutique items. But low cost is what Chinese manufacturersing offers. The attention to detail and engineering isnt on a US or Japan level. No Chinese cars are sold in the US because they cannot pass a crash test.
The video title is a bit presumptuous. Perhaps “overseas manufacturing” would have been better than the politically charged word “foreigners.”
We need more manufacturing in America with more Americans working more American workers will be able to afford better equipment and there will be more innovation. Engineers will become more challenged to design better things.
Graham Douglas That does apply for every country.
I don't live in every country, I live in America so I am concerned with what we need here
Graham Douglas If a country doesn't import labor, it can't import goods. What's next isolation step, no trade between Colorado and New Mexico, no trade between La Junta and Alamosa? The USA have piled up depts of 17.000.000.000.000 $ in other countries. In other words, your country imported goods/labor and will have to pay for. And you will have to work for that amount, not the lucky 0.1 % of american billionaires. And that too, applies for every country.
I've owned made in USA and still own made in USA guitar amplifiers, for 25 yrs. Peavey, Fender, both of which produces the "same models" in China, the Chinese made amps didn't last 25 months let alone 25 yrs. One particular amp lasted less than 25 days! Cannot compare! There is no comparison.....
Kengi Hepworth you always get what you pay for. Chinese gear included. Don’t be small minded.
I dont think you understood the point of what he said.
I suggest you blame Peavey and Fender for their poor quality control and not the Chinese manufacturer, the Chinese can (and do) build pretty much anything you want to any quality you want, it's about the pricepoint. If you have valve (tube) amplifiers then I can assure you that the valves will be from Russia/Eastern Block or China because no one else makes tubes anymore.
UK is in Europe for f sake
Another video where McGowan just uses the ''question'' to over promote his products
French Hi-fi is the best in world….
For engineering? Oh yes. American engineers still think it's 20 years ago on amp technology. Class D is now number 1 and stodgy us engineers have no clue.
Audfile you are properly right that class D are nr. 1. and if you would avoid switch mode, R-core are properly nr. 1.
Funny enough, as you say, America can seem stuck in the past. They most often use toroidal even so many years after the O-core was invented.
Fried Mule Big and Impressive looking!
When you're a country that doesn't manufacture anything.You will lose the ability to innovate.When robots do the manufacturing you will lose needed skills that translate to innovation.Why? cause engineering is a craft you can't really learn in an office or school,It takes hands on experience.In the past,it's always the guy that works in the shop that later becomes the engineer.Now you will have engineers that never worked in the shop.
Well if you live in England, there's more non-English speaking people here than there are natives. Seriously, I feel like a foreigner in my own country. Mind you I want to live in America because America is better than England, so yeah.
CoolDudeClem
Really?? Being an Englishman I can assure Paul and his subscribers that English is spoken by the vast majority of residents here. Some, perhaps many, are no lingual
CoolDudeClem america is a continent going from pole to pole..you mean USA.
There is a certain amount of irony in somebody who calls them self "CoolDudeClem" complaining about foreign influence
I guess the Alt-Right is attracting some to the USA...
CoolDudeClem what a low end DH you are! This is an international forum for people who love Music and High Quality Audio. Go visit the EDL twitter feed or join the racist arsehole Tommy Robinson in Leeds Prison anything but leave us alone.