Which Was Worse Iraq or Afghanistan?

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Komentáře • 257

  • @ShawnRyanClips
    @ShawnRyanClips  Před rokem +8

    Thanks for watching everyone. You can watch the full episode with Nick Kefalides here czcams.com/video/1LqlMUXcYK4/video.html Additionally if you want to support the Shawn Ryan Show you can join the community. www.patreon.com/VigilanceElite

  • @dwphillips42
    @dwphillips42 Před rokem +320

    Well, we were in their Homeland. I'm sure we as Americans would fight to the death for our country as well.

  • @timtime9167
    @timtime9167 Před rokem +128

    They were dedicated because they were fighting for their homeland.

    • @chadjones6313
      @chadjones6313 Před rokem +1

      Exactly

    • @Luke_______
      @Luke_______ Před rokem +3

      They could care less about their homeland, all they want is power and to be feared by all those who would dare oppose them or those with different idologies from them. Now the Afghans who are currently taking part in a resistance, fighting a war to take their country back from the bastards, they are the true Patriots of Afghanistan.

    • @chadjones6313
      @chadjones6313 Před rokem +3

      @@Luke_______ you don't have a clue

    • @araoto9240
      @araoto9240 Před rokem

      ​@@Luke_______ Stop lying afghans a proud they liberated thei country from dirty invaders go cry somewhere you dirdy collaborateur

    • @ghernandez2263
      @ghernandez2263 Před rokem

      @@Luke_______ sounds like Bush/Obama

  • @jakejs7455
    @jakejs7455 Před rokem +193

    They were protecting their country. As every patriot should.

    • @scruffy5119
      @scruffy5119 Před rokem

      Nothing says protecting your country like invading a town full of your fellow afghanis and then terrorizing them

    • @yoholmes273
      @yoholmes273 Před rokem

      No they weren't.
      Obviously not. At all. In any way.
      These men were merely cheap expendable tools of the American Fascist Corporatist war machine.

    • @smrdljivivlah5879
      @smrdljivivlah5879 Před rokem

      Protecting america? From whom? The saudis?

    • @NEOSPORIN7777
      @NEOSPORIN7777 Před rokem +7

      we're being rotten from inside, politicians and these crap ass laws they are making.
      public servant=public pay!

    • @tsijr915
      @tsijr915 Před rokem +13

      ​@@baghdadi7564 he means the Afganistáns were protecting their country as patriots

  • @ragnakok7973
    @ragnakok7973 Před rokem +18

    Not military but I’m from Iraq and I can say without a doubt there was more death in Iraq but in Afghanistan since it’s mostly rugged terrain and mountainous, the fighting was a lot more difficult there.

  • @flexangelo
    @flexangelo Před rokem +103

    "yea they were dedicated ..." the look on shawn's eyes says it all

    • @marveen6372
      @marveen6372 Před rokem +20

      Look says defeated

    • @worldeater161
      @worldeater161 Před rokem

      Try explaining that about terroristic Muslims who attack this country 😂 you clown

  • @ghost666
    @ghost666 Před rokem +32

    Never went to Iraq, you are spot on about Afghanistan though. “You have the watches, but we have the time”

  • @Orakzai_Afghan
    @Orakzai_Afghan Před 6 měsíci +3

    Never mess with the Pashtuns Afghans it's our culture that make us warriors

  • @Staffo1982Staffo
    @Staffo1982Staffo Před rokem +47

    No mention of the millions of innocents killed.

    • @softdrink-0
      @softdrink-0 Před rokem +6

      We definitely didn’t kill that many people.

    • @Luke_______
      @Luke_______ Před rokem +5

      Wtf 😂😂 that is the most ridiculous shit ive seen today.

    • @michaelj6392
      @michaelj6392 Před rokem +5

      @@softdrink-0 at least hundreds of thousands dude

    • @softdrink-0
      @softdrink-0 Před rokem +4

      @@michaelj6392 I agree, not millions though. I think the high end estimate for the war in Iraq was half a million dead in total for civilians and combatants but even that number was scrutinized for have little to no data backing it. The most common estimation is 250k-300k
      Still tragic

    • @ghernandez2263
      @ghernandez2263 Před rokem +2

      @@softdrink-0 hundreds a of thousands but millions in total after the war from poverty, hunger etc

  • @jd5393
    @jd5393 Před rokem +16

    First day on vacation there spent 72 hours in contact. Good times.

  • @LucasRogers92
    @LucasRogers92 Před rokem +67

    *US attacks country*
    *Country fights back*
    US military personnel: *surprise pikachu face*

    • @hotspot131638837
      @hotspot131638837 Před rokem

      You have zero critical thinking skills

    • @pattyrigol4389
      @pattyrigol4389 Před rokem +1

      Wrong

    • @JohnSmith-im8qt
      @JohnSmith-im8qt Před rokem

      You are the only one presenting this strawman.

    • @Rono99
      @Rono99 Před rokem

      Country blows up and kills thousands with a planed terrorist attack, surprised when US steps up and kicked their asses

    • @LucasRogers92
      @LucasRogers92 Před rokem

      @@pattyrigol4389 they literally did the face in the video 😂

  • @discourius26
    @discourius26 Před rokem +16

    I think he is right with Iraq, and it might still be premature to assume this. Hands down I've seen more people come back home from Afghanistan with PTSD, but I have yet to see the weird stuff with health problems and procreation as I've seen from the men and women that came home from Iraq. Whatever chemicals they were exposed to messed a lot of them up good.

    • @roscoepcoltrane23
      @roscoepcoltrane23 Před rokem

      Probably wasn’t chemical’s it was probably the crap they made them take before they went. Whatever it was it wasn’t good.

  • @dragern8421
    @dragern8421 Před rokem +18

    oh I need to watch this one
    thank you shawn for posting these as shorts see I can see whats interesting

  • @ZESAUCEBOSS
    @ZESAUCEBOSS Před rokem +5

    I know they are talking about combat, but as a civilian the war in Iraq always pissed me off more, because I PERSONALLY felt that if the politicians had let the military run ground combat operations for another 24-48 hours in 91, then sadam would have had no one left to defend him, and therefore would have fallen to the uprising that came after the war, and the international national community would also already be mobilized and actually in on the plan to help Iraq. No doubt just wishful thinking on my part…….

    • @ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1
      @ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1 Před rokem

      BMA
      There were no nuclear & chemical weapon in Iraq!
      How do you justify giving freedom from the world a million people in Iraq!!
      You will be held accountable after death on day of judgement if you support murde#rers!!!

  • @mikebrase5161
    @mikebrase5161 Před rokem +10

    I was in Sadr City 04-05 i never got in a fight that lasted less than 4 hours, summer of 04 was an Infantryman's paradise.

    • @vicentee2687
      @vicentee2687 Před rokem +3

      I was there in the spring of 08 those guys were dedicated hours long fire fights or we would drive down rte gold and stir the pot

    • @mikebrase5161
      @mikebrase5161 Před rokem +2

      @@vicentee2687 Route Copper and Route Gold and the Jamelia Power plant. I was in an 18hour battle at the power station in '04. Two Companies in a big cigar completely surrounded. It was awesome. Our Brad's went through 3 basic loads of HE. I remember changing mags and glancing at my watch it was 15:29 and thinking fuck it's gonna be a long night.

    • @vicentee2687
      @vicentee2687 Před rokem +2

      @Mike Brase I've patrolled jamilia market we were at jss sadr not sure if that was there in 04 it was close to the traffic circle I was there when they decided to build a wall thru sadr it was chaos but I didn't make it the whole time our squad got hit by an efp while dismounted on Florida's and delta

    • @mikebrase5161
      @mikebrase5161 Před rokem +3

      @@vicentee2687 my big fight was at the traffic circle the intersection of Grizzlies. Had an RPG come skipping down the street like a rock skipping on a lake. It went in between me and one of my Grenadiers. It was one of those moments in combat where time slows down and you look somebody dead in the eye and they give you the WTF Sergeant look. We had a Platoon get QRF'd up there and they went Black on ammo that kicked the whole thing off. My FOB was across the street from Martyrs Monument just over from the MOI.

  • @matt12347174
    @matt12347174 Před rokem +7

    I did both and Iraq 06 was bad. IED’s were just unstoppable.

    • @mattjingles5758
      @mattjingles5758 Před rokem +3

      Especially with no armor on the trucks for a few years before the military smartened up and put armor on trucks.

  • @bretarmstrong6303
    @bretarmstrong6303 Před rokem +18

    Went to Iraq twice, but didn't see what you guys did. I'm glad you're alive brother, that shit wasn't easy, and my family said I was never the same again.

    • @ryujin2101
      @ryujin2101 Před rokem

      Yours lol
      U wen freely
      Fun Ur family. What about the many their Gone. Weak Asss

    • @Luay91
      @Luay91 Před rokem

      Allahu Akbar! That’s what you get for joining the US army into an illegal war! I have you never be the same and your memories haunt you till the end of days.

    • @VampireHub616
      @VampireHub616 Před rokem +1

      Did you go to Afghanistan too?

    • @skitzo1018
      @skitzo1018 Před rokem

      Yous never had any business in Iraq but to kill innocent children and steal their riches

  • @JWXCVet
    @JWXCVet Před rokem +5

    Everything was getting blown tf up in Iraq. 07 was hoppin.

  • @donrektmeplease
    @donrektmeplease Před rokem +14

    Which one was more profitable for the Biden and Bush family?

    • @joselase6894
      @joselase6894 Před rokem

      Biden family was allotted billion dollar construction contracts in Iraq, despite never having any experience in it.
      The answer is the Clintons/Obamas

    • @BabyWick351
      @BabyWick351 Před rokem

      #amanpour&co

  • @MTXSHO9732vV8SHO
    @MTXSHO9732vV8SHO Před rokem +22

    Eastern Afghanistan: The European Progeny of Alexander the Great's Soldiers are still there. Let that sink in... It's where Empires go to DIE.

    • @snugglecity3500
      @snugglecity3500 Před rokem +3

      Except the numerous empires who conquered and held Afghanistan for long periods of time

    • @MIKlLLA
      @MIKlLLA Před rokem +4

      ​@snugglecity3500 and where are those empires now?

    • @chrisburke624
      @chrisburke624 Před rokem +5

      ​@@snugglecity3500 Empires invested blood & treasure, sure...
      But none held Afghanistan. None had to hold that ground, nobody else was competing for it...
      I wouldn't call the 10 years of the USSR, or the 20 years of NATO, as 'holding it for a long time'

    • @danlorett2184
      @danlorett2184 Před rokem +1

      Super weird to take pride in the fact that this one place is a literal wasteland with very little of value. They didn't hold onto it not because they couldn't have. They didn't hold onto it because it wasn't worth the fight... because it's a wasteland lmao.
      Except the Soviets, who lost not because of the Afghans... but because of the billions and billions the US rained on them.

    • @Afghan_boss
      @Afghan_boss Před rokem +7

      ​@@danlorett2184no value?
      U know we have over 3 trillion in know natural resources

  • @michaelj6392
    @michaelj6392 Před rokem +1

    “Yeah they were dedicated” 😂

  • @poncho_x4410
    @poncho_x4410 Před rokem +3

    I served in Afghanistan and my buddy in Iraq. The combat seems to have been quite different.

  • @SunnyWithNoChanceOfRain
    @SunnyWithNoChanceOfRain Před rokem +2

    Having family from the East, I shouldn’t laugh at “man dresses and flip flops”. But I was not expecting him to say that & the way he said it was so casual, thus funny.

  • @blackback74
    @blackback74 Před rokem +5

    Iraq, Operation Phantom Fury.

  • @NEOSPORIN7777
    @NEOSPORIN7777 Před rokem +2

    "yea they were dedicated" translated to those tough sombiches were in the fight for their homeland.

  • @EdwardHood
    @EdwardHood Před rokem +23

    Seeing the Taliban flag in the President's office is still one of the most painful images I have witnessed to this day.

    • @bennettbush3906
      @bennettbush3906 Před rokem

      I can’t imagine that, makes me sick to my stomach.

    • @buckfutter99
      @buckfutter99 Před rokem

      Meh, the taliban are just dudes that want people to leave their country alone. They did the same thing you’d do if a superpower took control of your country. Unless you are type to run away. They had plenty of those as well.

    • @GregoryCunningham
      @GregoryCunningham Před rokem +20

      Imagine how they feel when seeing an American flag. It’s all perspective, it helps to be able to see more than your own.

    • @187btokes
      @187btokes Před rokem +9

      Naw it was always like that. We were protecting the heroin trade and guarding the poppy fields on duty forever. I personally stood by a field with a group of my buddies I was serving with and was told to shoot anyone who tried to get into the fields. Wild

    • @jacob1423
      @jacob1423 Před rokem +1

      @@GregoryCunningham no it doesn’t 😂

  • @shmig_
    @shmig_ Před rokem +2

    Its interesting to see people try to come to terms with the fact they decided to serve their country only to end up serving a group of elite.. who pitted them against people ACTUALLY serving their people.

  • @bonita392
    @bonita392 Před 10 měsíci +2

    As a veteran , yes Afghanistan was bad they were so determined to fight compared to Iraq. You guys nailed it. Sad to see at how Afghanistan turned out now.

  • @michaeltaylor8835
    @michaeltaylor8835 Před rokem +5

    Afghanistan was worse cos it was never over and GIs were badly let down

  • @liamjohnny335
    @liamjohnny335 Před rokem +6

    Don't belittle yr enemy..dresses n flipflops....not their first dance buddy...peace x

  • @DmMoiMienNamke.mandimoiroNgu

    Utmost respects for Afghanistani, Iraqi who fought against tyrant invader USA

    • @druidarreynolds4303
      @druidarreynolds4303 Před rokem +2

      What you on about,they’re democracy bringers,people saviors,ressources gatherers😂

    • @jarislamecc
      @jarislamecc Před rokem

      There are only 2 genders.

    • @ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1
      @ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1 Před rokem

      ​@@druidarreynolds4303 BMA
      Yeah! Giving freedom to Millions of Civillians outta world!!
      Accept both the wars (Iraq & Afghan) fought to protect illegitimate Son namely "Israel"!!!

    • @Rono99
      @Rono99 Před rokem

      Blows up a child with an ied, dogs is all them afghanistan fReEdOm fighters are

    • @shabirbhatti11147
      @shabirbhatti11147 Před rokem +1

      @@druidarreynolds4303 Hahahahha.

  • @Goatz.Editz77
    @Goatz.Editz77 Před rokem +8

    Iraq is a GREAT country

  • @echoverse171
    @echoverse171 Před rokem +2

    Those hours felt like days then you hear idf walking in on you.

  • @Umar_1994_
    @Umar_1994_ Před rokem +1

    Americans expect people to lay down during an invasion and call people who react or respond terrorists 😅

  • @jordansmith8348
    @jordansmith8348 Před rokem

    oh... we're all watching for your response.
    🇨🇦

  • @beaverfev
    @beaverfev Před rokem +8

    An imperialist telling which country they invaded put up a bigger fight

  • @pittiesplus4108
    @pittiesplus4108 Před rokem +3

    How dedicated would you be if an afghan person should up in your neighborhood to save you?

  • @bostonbilly7725
    @bostonbilly7725 Před rokem +4

    Hmm equal imo. Irag was more of a massacre in some sorts of ways. But Afghanistan was definitely tougher for us id say. There were many reports of us getting pinned down and surrounded in the trees and mountains so idk which was worse.... I like his explanation tho ❤😊

  • @al2753
    @al2753 Před rokem +2

    God blessed the afghans with skill

  • @ShelbyG.O.-ji9vl
    @ShelbyG.O.-ji9vl Před rokem +3

    IRAQ

  • @russellvaughan1840
    @russellvaughan1840 Před rokem +2

    as they should have been...

  • @Michael_ATL_82
    @Michael_ATL_82 Před rokem +2

    Afghanistan they fight none stop

  • @fogshadow9112
    @fogshadow9112 Před rokem +6

    Iraq geography is pretty much flat beside the mountains in the Kurdistan region of Iraq. So Iraqis have to fight that way or we would be easy picking for the superior us airforce.
    But with isis, it was different. War with Daesh was mainly city warfare.
    The Afghans have mountains so they have the "luxury" of fighting for days because they can hide in the mountains.

    • @saf1...
      @saf1... Před rokem

      Theres no luxury in constant wars both the counties were being killed and bomed

  • @wesleydunphy9182
    @wesleydunphy9182 Před rokem +5

    The world is going to feel Afghanastans wrath some day. So many innocents murdered by soldiers.

    • @mattjingles5758
      @mattjingles5758 Před rokem +2

      😂

    • @ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1
      @ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1 Před rokem

      ​@@mattjingles5758 BMA
      Legends say flag blags will march from Afghanistan, there won't be anybody to stop them until they will capture Jerusalem!!
      I wonder whose illegitimate son is controlling Jerusalem now!!!

    • @ghernandez2263
      @ghernandez2263 Před rokem

      Thousands of coward Americans already felt it

  • @feelingnether158
    @feelingnether158 Před rokem

    As yes imagine not submitting to America without trying to resist.

  • @timyrabbit
    @timyrabbit Před rokem +1

    Lol what’s up with veterans pretending like they didn’t have this numerical, technological, advantage over their enemies in the Middle East? Imagine if these guys actually fought an peer enemy.

  • @madsniper0910
    @madsniper0910 Před rokem

    The same thing the soviets experienced in Afghanistan these are people are experienced fighting for their home

  • @kingslate1
    @kingslate1 Před rokem +1

    So does he mean Afghanistan was worst

    • @omarkhan9646
      @omarkhan9646 Před 9 měsíci

      Yes, more chance of dying or getting injured in Iraq mainly due to IEDs, but the fighting was tougher in Afghanistan cuz those guys would actually properly fight you and pin you down. That’s what he’s saying.

  • @user-go3td3dd8h
    @user-go3td3dd8h Před rokem

    The summer of 2011 COP Terminator and strong point Printler in Maiwand was HOT every day jumping on the hescos in nothing but plate carriers

  • @jaimegrajeda7701
    @jaimegrajeda7701 Před rokem

    Dedicated 😵‍💫😮

  • @tbdinh78
    @tbdinh78 Před rokem

    connect to what

  • @wtfsalommy3250
    @wtfsalommy3250 Před rokem

    Im sure all war sucks,ive never been.. But im sure it sucks

  • @tannerroberton3231
    @tannerroberton3231 Před rokem

    The SRS is the best podcast

  • @joeyphillips1181
    @joeyphillips1181 Před rokem +1

    So in other words probably Afghanistan because they was alot more dedicated to killing our people but iraq was more urban environment and hit and run type of fighting from the enemy

    • @ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1
      @ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1 Před rokem +1

      BMA
      Civillions in Iraq didn't supported there army & toopling Saddam's statue!!
      So they were already dead demotivated inside!!!

  • @jamesolivito4374
    @jamesolivito4374 Před rokem +1

    I have watched documentaries about the Afagn fighters . They smoke that hash and fight all day .

    • @annankhan7397
      @annankhan7397 Před rokem

      Trust me Taliban aren’t smoking hash the us backed govt fighters were high as a kite on heroin too. That’s why 60k beat 300k in a few days

    • @fdsfsdgsdg
      @fdsfsdgsdg Před rokem +1

      taliban doesnt smoke hash, but the army did

  • @timothinking9855
    @timothinking9855 Před rokem +4

    For me it was Afghanistan... Iraq was shitty, but Afghanistan was exhausting.

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 Před rokem

    Is "Tic" an acronym?

    • @Commander99ash
      @Commander99ash Před 20 dny

      No, it was just a small term for gunfight or difficult situation that would last HOURS

  • @Fugitive313
    @Fugitive313 Před 6 měsíci

    Afghans are different breed you can’t defeat them in battles

  • @Notlania12345
    @Notlania12345 Před rokem

    I’m offended

  • @ebeneezerscrooge2942
    @ebeneezerscrooge2942 Před rokem

    Define worse.

  • @hejshajaha7499
    @hejshajaha7499 Před rokem

    Ya but those man dresses would kill your bud and they had a better advantage and guess what… you ran away and pulled out….

  • @detroiittriick
    @detroiittriick Před 11 měsíci

    They are protecting their land, women, and children just like you would. Why this hypocrisy ?

  • @mathewsmith1277
    @mathewsmith1277 Před rokem

    They were defending their homeland I would do the same and u would as well

  • @lostowl5821
    @lostowl5821 Před rokem

    Yeah they were dedicated 😂 alla got that effect

  • @paulalan262626
    @paulalan262626 Před rokem

    Go Go USA. America #1. Insanity rules. Be proud of your entitled selves. 😂 When was the last time you won a war?

  • @jattjamesbond1122
    @jattjamesbond1122 Před rokem +2

    Iraq is not a mountainous terrain so alot of people died yet iraq is now developing and Afghanistan is nothing now iraq per capita is even bigger tha some European countries 😏

    • @ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1
      @ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1 Před rokem

      BMA
      I don't know if you are aware of corrouption in Iraq! There currency been worst from the time of war!! Same will be the fate of Iraq puppet govt as happened qith Afghan(I A)!!!

  • @german18072
    @german18072 Před rokem

    well facts said that by 2016 talibans already controll half the country. so.. probably afghan was more difficult... althoug you killed more in irak.. but is totally understandable since ra wasnt prepare for a war or an invansion and the only reason went there was because business so iraki people didnt expected what you did like killer monkeys. irak will be remember as a inocent bloodbath and no veteran would say with proud i was in irak

  • @vh1775
    @vh1775 Před rokem

    Man dress!

  • @jcfireman2215
    @jcfireman2215 Před rokem +2

    Both are losses. Just like Vietnam.

  • @throwinfitz1144
    @throwinfitz1144 Před rokem +2

    They're not man dresses. In their culture, it's a regular outfit.

    • @robertemery8660
      @robertemery8660 Před rokem +2

      You sound sensitive

    • @druidarreynolds4303
      @druidarreynolds4303 Před rokem

      Dude that lost to so called men dresses wearers seems more butthurt lmao

    • @Rake3577
      @Rake3577 Před rokem

      @@robertemery8660 the national sport in the US is killing children in their schools

  • @filipekaisuva1489
    @filipekaisuva1489 Před rokem

    Alexander the great blood mix....Afgans

  • @robertrowe4867
    @robertrowe4867 Před rokem +1

    Other way round I was there

  • @SantiagoMAXIMOleon
    @SantiagoMAXIMOleon Před rokem +2

    Tailban never let up ,you Yankees lost that war.

  • @hijoputa5504
    @hijoputa5504 Před rokem +1

    Iraq had better streets then Afghanistan !

  • @Max-zv8hm
    @Max-zv8hm Před rokem

    Rollovers iraq was worse

  • @Hey79
    @Hey79 Před rokem

    Then how was Iraq worse if Afghanistan 🇦🇫 would fight you harder for more days! Very contradictory

    • @druidarreynolds4303
      @druidarreynolds4303 Před rokem +1

      Psychologically,which is probably worse. But I never took part in a foreign country invasion so don’t take my word for it.

    • @omarkhan9646
      @omarkhan9646 Před 9 měsíci

      He’s saying Afg was worse cuz the fighting was hard, but more chance of dying/getting injured in Iraq due to IEDs.

  • @Youtubegroomskids
    @Youtubegroomskids Před rokem

    Im curious to learn more about Shawn and when he realized how he had fucked up by fighting a war for some stupid politician.

  • @uksecul9136
    @uksecul9136 Před rokem

    Wait wtf he asked which one was harder and he said the one that was easier am I stupid or are they just dumb af

    • @patrickmasi4851
      @patrickmasi4851 Před rokem

      You can’t kill what you can’t see is what I think he was trying to get across

  • @janicar9326
    @janicar9326 Před rokem

    Dodji kod nas u Rusiju

    • @mattjingles5758
      @mattjingles5758 Před rokem +1

      Russia is doing a good job of losing on their own. They don't need the help 😂.

  • @h4mud1
    @h4mud1 Před rokem +1

    IRAQ