Scroll Compressor Exposed: Understanding Its Mechanical Magic
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- How do scroll compressors work? What are the main parts, the different types and controls.
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Great job Paul!
Nice video but you do know that cars also have scroll compressor option as well.
the danfoss unit in your sponsored section looks like a dalek.
As an HVAC guy with 17 years experience i'd like to say this was a rather well put together video.
I'd also like to add a warning about digital scrolls. They are extremely inefficient. They still draw about 60% power while unloaded as they do loaded. The only real application as i see it would be as a capacity modulating stage in a system with multiple compressors, to get a true n-100% capacity instead of 100/n steps. Emerson have pushed them out in datacenter applications which is where i've come in contact with them. Hugely wasteful, and they do wear out quicker than a fixed scroll. And the noise they make, awful.
I didn’t know they were so inefficient! Yes the noise is very annoying. They do provide a much more comfortable environment than the traditional on/off. You can get much more steady discharge temperatures. I hope we start seeing more VFD controlled compressors in the future. That seems like the best solution.
Clear. Approachable terminology and length. Beautiful, detailed schematic-like graphics and animations. This is such a well done video!
Up until now I was just guessing at what was happening inside a scroll compressor, but now I see. You've created an incredibly effective illustration- thanks so much!
This video sure punched us in the B hole.
Excellent animation to show the actual scroll operation! Two other issues though:
1. The toy that bubbles in your hand does NOT have ‘refrigerant’ and is NOT boiling! It’s simply air pressure from the expansion caused by your warm hand heating the lower chamber! (This was the main reason for my comment and I didn’t see anyone else mention it.)
2. When looking through comments I was reminded of another thing that hit me. As someone else noted, the spray bottle doesn’t make liquid evaporate, but just “atomizes” it for greater surface area for easier evaporation.
Thank you for this video. I worked in the Automotive field for more than 30 years and part of that was learning about and repairing mobile A/C systems including my own vehicles.
While auto compressors were mostly belt driven, obviously being variable engine speed, piston pumps with "Swash Plates" could give variable output. Some vehicles had electronically controlled output, many had clutch engagement on the drive side.
Since Hybrids came out, their compressors could use the High Voltage Battery Power changed to a 3 Phase A/C Motorized Compressor. I'm reading more lately how low pressure gas engine fuel pumps are 3 phase power now. That pump has it's own module that changes the 12 Volt battery power to variable 3 phase power controlled by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) which runs the engine. The Fuel Pump Control Module changes the fuel pump's output depending on the signal from the PCM and it's demands. That's on a CAN network. Talk about complexity!
Thank you for this video.
....man that's fucking stupid. I love the simplicity of the diaphraghm fuel pump on my 85 F150. It's so damn reliable. And easy to change if it needs it. And interestingly, so is the factory(!!) aircon on that truck. Still has its original charge of R12 in it and it will still freeze an eskimo's nutsack off.
Great video. I did a lot of scroll compressor development at my first job out of college and this video would've saved me a few weeks of learning.
Maybe your at the wrong school no? Contact these guy's or look into things etc explore for yourself but this is basics for what you say your studying ???
Engineering schools teach fundamentals, but they don’t get into the details of individual product designs. There is a huge variety of types of products a mechanical engineer might design, so there is no way a school could adequately cover everything. It’s very common for engineers (especially new ones) to be unfamiliar with how systems like this work and need to research to get themselves up to speed before they start. Hopefully there are senior engineers who can provide guidance.
Thanks, Paul!
My Carrier heat pump (domestic service) has a variable-speed compressor, variable-speed blower, and (possibly) an electronic expansion valve. We selected this model for its high efficiency. I was pleased to see some of these aspects covered in your video. At the same time, your breakdown of the compressor reveals a great many wear points, particularly within the scroll mechanism. Rather concerning.~~~~Arthur Ogawa
Even if I am not a Mechanical Engineering professional/student I enjoyed the video .
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The graphics in this video make this so much easier to understand. I already had a vague idea of how these worked but it makes much more sense now.
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This is a great video! The ventilators I used to work on used scroll compressors with reed valves. Had to tear them down and service them every 5000 hours. Super interesting system
Great explanation! Having worked with reefers onboard container ships, I've always wondered how these compressors work. Now I want to see a Starcool compressor from inside 😂
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It's pretty mind blowing that those scrolls can be engineered to a gas tight precision fit across the entire surface of two complex complementary shapes like that!
This video about compressors was a lot clearer than others I'd watched. Big thumbs up to Engineering Mindset!👍👍
Great video! I worked on the Boeing 787 supplemental cooling units for about a year which use scroll compressors. The -8 and -9 aircraft SCUs use a TXV while the -10 uses an EEV. Variable speed motors and with an economizer to improve coefficient of performance (efficiency).
This is the best and more detailed explanation I've ever saw! Good Job man! You've raised the bar!!!
VRF systems are completely changing the game for small scale cooling systems, especially with the increase in ductless systems in the US. I've got a ductless mini split heat pump in my office and it has fantastic temperature control, never feels too hot or too cold in the space and I know it only uses as much energy as it needs to maintain that temp.
Totally is. We also have a very detailed video of VRF systems
I guess expansion devices have really progressed, the last time I cracked open a window unit to do some condenser coil cleaning before cooling season started the expansion device was just capillary tube.
Beautifully explained!
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Very helpful video, especially the part about compressor unloading part. Thanks again for the video.
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What a brilliant engineering masterpiece, as well as a brilliant demonstration of such a thing.
That's the very first time I've ever heard of a *Pressure* Relief Valve that discharges because of excessive *temperature.*
I'd be very interested to know how that works for this particular valve, or even how that's physically possible for such a small PRV with no sensing input other than pressure.
Such a great explanation, simple terms but quite complete information
Excellent presentation and information
These are one of the cooler devices out there (never be sorry for your puns). It really is neat seeing people realize how they work. Not as pretty to look at as something like a planetary gear, but still pretty cool (again, never sorry).
Question - If scroll is not allowing refrigerant to escape unnecessarily from unexpected places but only from the centre that means that cavity that scroll makes it air tight right? So the walls of scroll always will have friction as they touch eachother, so how this much friction is overcomed?
This was the thing that prevented scrolls from being viable for many years. It's actually a very old concept, but i believe it was only in the 70's that manufacturing techniques were refined enough that the tolerances of the scrolls would be fine enough for it to work. The scrolls barely touch in reality, they employ a thin film of oil to do the sealing.
@@hansmuller1625 hmm
I'm no expert but the fact that the output is pulsed suggests that at some point the opening is sealed. 🦭
Just like an internal combustion engine which lets in the fuel into the cylinders and then seals prior to compression and detonation 💥
Always wondered how the compressor works. Nice video
very informative, thank you!
Incredible video, Superb animation we have Liebert DS250, a Direct expansion air-cooled CRAC Unit in our data center, The scroll compressor is from Copeland and it makes extreme sound while loading and Unloading, Your video helped me a ton, thank you very much, It would great if its in note format with the colour picture so that we can carry and read for our info, Once again much appreciated.
very educative. Thank you
This is as good as a WWII technical training video. Fantastic work!
Gracias muy buena información feliz navidad!!
I really love your videos. Can you make video about air compressor such as screw compressor with and without oil? thank you
Very good and easy to understand video
very informative awesome vdo 👍🏻
How a scroll compressor works is explained in the ten seconds between 10:20 & 10:30, the balance of the video is superfluous.
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Really good, Thank you
Beautiful design
Thanks!
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Thank you!
TEM has done it again great Vid!
Great Video. Thank you for sharing. Please. Could you make video about Ice Machine ? everything about Ice Machine. Thank you.
This video is AWESOME
What a beautiful machine! 😅 And great video!
Thank you for the video! Now I understood the reason why they dont sell me this type of compressor!
Great vid thank you
Please make a video on ammonia based refrigerators that are commonly found in campers/ motorhomes and can either run off of normal ac power or a combination of 12v dc and propane.
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Can u make a detailed video on immersion cooling technology..?
I find it cute the color of the refrigerant jug in the animation is R22 green.
What electronics book do you recommend? Something that isn’t overly complicated
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Nice job, but the flow thru the condenser and evaporator is shown wrong. Hot gas enters the top of the condenser coil and leaves at the bottom as a liquid, due to gravity the liquid is heavier than gas. The evaporator works just the opposite, liquid enters low in each individual tube and leaves as a gas high. This also helps to prevents liquid entering from entering the suction side.
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What's the difference between a thermal expansion valve and an orifice tube?
Nice 👌
Mr. Pole do you have any mechanical or computer science book
8:26 Since the void space has the _capacity_ to hold fluid, and smooth out "noise", I'm reminded of an electrical capacitor. Yet again, electrons act like a fluid.
cant wait to one day get to install 1234z* medium and low pressure stuff in residential settings
Please make video on Encoder 👍
I've actually cut open a few burnt up compressors from old ac units and refrigerators and freezers
wasn't the scroll compressor a Copeland thing in the 80's originally. Friend worked there and then for Chrysler in Dayton...
Is R1234ze going to be used in heat pumps in the EU? I see all heat pump manufactures design heatpumps with propane but no one uses R1234ze. why?
The video is great! Who ever invented the scroll compressor... Internet high 5 to you! (Maybe a heavenly high 5...)
Can a piston be used instead ? or is this inefficient!
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What value does it provide over other compressor?
It looks more complicated and restricted.
High capacity in a small footprint, and higher efficiency compared to piston compressors.
Noise, number of parts, miniature size.
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PLEASE HELP ME
I bought a 1.5Ton 5Star inverter Ac 2days ago a installation team came for installation, they installed the indoor unit and the outdoor unit perfectly and Vaccum the system through the charging hose (service line) after Vaccum the closed the valve of Vaccum motor and turned the Vaccum motor off after this he turned the discharge line (liquid stop valve) for 5sec and turned it off to check leaks till this everything he did was perfectly right as the manual said but after this the manual said to Disconnect charging hose from gas stop valve's service port, then fully open liquid and gas stop valves. But instead he opened the discharge line completely and then started to disconnect charging hose from which the gauge was connected as soon as he started open the gas started to leak from the charging hose and he took almost 30sec to disconnect till than it was leaking and it stopped when it was disconnected and at last he fully opened the discharge line and now Im overthinking and living in fear that what was that gas was it the refrigerant or the compressor oil or it may have suck air inside the compressor or coils because it was vaccumed, it may have contaminated the refrigerant that May lead to BLAST (Explosion) OF COMPRESSOR NOW IM Living in fear that it may blast any time what should i do now Please help me
is a BLDC motor used in this design?
Super
Can you please make a video on how computer hardware works
Legit question, what is the common compression ratio, and the higher theoretical compression ratio of such a compressor in this application
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This design seems simpler and more efficient than traditional compressors... why are they so expensive?
Complexity I imagine.
I mean the simplest designs are the motors that drive a piston, the piston compressing the air or gas in a cylinder, forcing open a check valve, much like in a vehicles engine. Very few parts, intuitive and cheap.
@@A_Stereotypical_Guy Seems like the rotating spiral is significantly simpler than a piston mechanism but maybe I'm missing something?
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 I think it's just you have so many parts in action on a spiral compressor. More intricate, less intuitive maybe.
The scrolls themselves are a lot more complex with the various holes/slots etc, there is a lot more machining that needs to be done to make them work and that machining needs to be a lot more precise. An example is the heights of the scrolls of othe two halves needs to be very close or the whole thing just deosnt work.
Make video on integrated circuit.
See our video on motor speed controller
Crank case heaters are also great for blowing fuses and breakers to keep techs busy! Lol
I’ve actually never had a burned out cch pop a breaker. I can see how it could happen but in 10 years commercial hvac and refrigeration it’s never happened to me.
Ever thought about doing a video on how leaf blowers work?
Turbines. You're welcome
Turbines in a leaf blower can spin anywhere from 22,000, RPM for electric blowers, and up to 45,000 rpm for gas blowers.
@@A_Stereotypical_Guy Got a link? All I’m finding is wind turbines and jet turbines.
Overall a good video, I do have some issues, like with the spray water bottle, it doesn't evaporate the water, it creates a mist, that mist is not evaporated water, but liquid water particles. Those particles can evaporate rather quickly, but that takes a lot of energy, which causes a temperature drop. But the water doesn't boil, unless the temperature is above the boiling point. The drop in temperature will typically initially be fast, and then slow down the closer to the dew point of that droplet-air mixture gets, and the dew point of that mixture will be higher than that of the ambient air because of the added water vapor.
Boiling point is a function of temperature and pressure, a typical heat pump compressor simply change the pressure to change the temperature of the boiling point of the refrigerant. A water spray bottle does not decrease the pressure of ambient air, it's technically not the exact thing that happens, even if both the refrigerant and water evaporates, the spray bottle just increase the surface area of the water and mix it with air.
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I just wish the fucking things would last longer than a season and a half these days. The R12 system in my 85 F150's factory(!!) aircon still works fine after nearly 40 years of service, but the modern, energy-efficient, low-carbon-footprint bullshit I hang in my window to cool my bedroom literally dies every season.
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if nobody got me, I know the scroll compressor got me, can I get an amen?🗣
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9.8C whats that thing made of!
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My pleasure! Glad you enjoy Brian
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Archimedes screw yet again brilliant 😊
No, that's something different
@@safetyinstructor
The driving compressing force is an Archimedes screw my friend or are we watching a different video ?
11:19 ok i see that was a mistake to not see the whole video before comment
10:45 by the way its show you had skipped the outer layer compression pocked
also in this drawing make it looks like there its only a cycle running per revolution
should had added more colors to represent the Multiple compression cycles
Ive seen compressors once.
so this is what they find inside the recovered chinese uap debris? that my friend is also a searchable title to a video here on yt 😉 rumour is chinese molded aerogel hull and compressor based on this type of spec.. all made of metallic aerogel