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  • In this video I'll show you how to light a Coleman 533 multi fuel single burner stove. Enjoy!

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  • @kevinu.k.7042
    @kevinu.k.7042 Před 4 lety +8

    Some of those additives are cleaners! Another reviewer who has been using one for many years says that the high octane or Super unleaded in the UK do not block the pre-heater tube and actually keep it unclogged. Good review as always. Thanks

  • @davidrubelowsky5608
    @davidrubelowsky5608 Před 7 lety +11

    I have the Peak Feather 442 duel fuel, (similar to the 533)it's my go to backpacking stove...over 20 years of flawless performance. However, I never go on a trip without a backup stove and the MSR whisperlite (also over 20 years) very similar to the Primus stove in the video. Two years ago I picked up the MSR whisperlite International, the stove can be set up to use canister type fuel, very handy for a quick use. For any of you who have used the MSR whisper, not a very quick set up, but still a great stove. Finally, I have concluded the same findings, the Coleman boils quicker than both whisperlite stoves and I believe it's due to the wider surface area of the burner.
    Thank you for all the great videos, I originally found you on CZcams for research on casting my own bullets.

  • @fratermus5502
    @fratermus5502 Před 4 lety +20

    "the purpose of these yellow flames is to heat up [the generator]" -- that came out kinda weird. For onlookers, the yellow flames exist because the generator is not yet hot enough to vaporize the liquid fuel. When the genny comes up to temperature the flames will be fed by vapor (tight blue flames) instead of liquid fuel (ragged yellow flames).

  • @totallyfrozen
    @totallyfrozen Před 6 lety +4

    I’ve got one. Love it. I actually use it in the back of an SUV to heat up my lunch when I’m away from home. Apply a little common sense and it’s safe to use inside the vehicle. Easy to start, easy to control, burns hot and cooks fast.
    Coleman just makes very good lanterns and stoves. They’ve got that science figured out.

  • @B0yardigi0rn0
    @B0yardigi0rn0 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you for sharing such valuable information. I am in Venezuela, getting my butt kicked after a nation-wide blackout that has lasted 4 days. A friend is about to bring one of these to help us out. God bless you.

  • @beardedseabee82outdoors13

    Nice. I owned the coleman xponent single burner backpacking stove (their version of whisperlite same burner head as the 533) for several many years and was a great stove, then gifted it to a buddy of mine while I was in CA. Good stoves.

  • @pmm422
    @pmm422 Před 3 lety +1

    I own 2 and love them and yes I use it for backpacking because if I'm going to haul something around I want it to work!

  • @JohnWalshLegend
    @JohnWalshLegend Před 4 lety +1

    Just picked up the Coleman Dual Fuel lantern, which sparked my interest in trying to get some vintage stoves and lanterns from Ebay. So far I have a bid on a rare Thermos model, and actually bought a Vaporlux M320 which was fully serviced and works great for a 60 year old lantern. Great video as always!

  • @jasonwilliams9663
    @jasonwilliams9663 Před 7 lety +1

    I have this same stove and love it. I bought it 20 years ago and haven't had a bit of poblem. I have always used white gas, but after seeing your vid, I may just run low octane gas. Thanks brotha. you should be seeing one of Santa's elfs today.. lol

  • @inthehalflight9303
    @inthehalflight9303 Před 5 lety +5

    Thanks for the video. I just got of these perfectly clean at the thrift store for less than $6.00

  • @danburch9989
    @danburch9989 Před 5 lety +11

    I had no plans of buying this stove. But passing through China-Mart, I mean Wal-Mart, they had one on clearance for $29+. Couldn't let that impulse purchase go unchallenged. You don't need to hold your thumb over the hole after you finish pumping. There's a check valve that holds tank pressure while you are pumping. Your thumb over the hole is the other "check valve" while you pump. Simply turn the knob to lock it in place when you're done pumping. I have one of those stoves plus a 3-burner model from the early 70s. I'm going to test the burn time on my 533 stove on high to see how much fuel "mileage" I get on a full tank.
    Added: Just got done with the test. I used 1/2 throttle because it didn't seem like there was that much difference between 1/2 & full. At 1/2, I got 135 minutes (2.25 hrs) of burn time.

    • @jonny9884
      @jonny9884 Před 5 lety +1

      Well, now I have to stop by every single China-Mart I come across when in the States next just to see whether I can find one for 30 bucks as well !

    • @Hoonozit
      @Hoonozit Před 5 lety +4

      I lucked up and found a used Coleman model 400 stove at the Salvation Army for 99 cents.

    • @danburch9989
      @danburch9989 Před 5 lety

      @@Hoonozit You win!

    • @Hoonozit
      @Hoonozit Před 5 lety +1

      Ok, but finding a brand new for half price ain't bad either. :-)

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 5 lety

      You guys are lucky. Here in Australia, they retail for U$75 new online. The Coleman fuel is also awfully expensive... U$25 per gallon. Thrift stores mostly don't accept donated camp stoves for safety & liability reasons.
      Most campers here use those 2-burner propane stoves, butane cartridge stoves like the ones you find in Korean restaurants, or canister stoves for hiking.

  • @plumpye474
    @plumpye474 Před 7 lety +2

    Nice lil stove brotha I like the coleman stuff at one time I bet you I had 50 Coleman Lanterns some that are super rare even old Military issued that have special mantles that have different emblems that shine when you light them like a butterfly and maybe 10 or 20 coleman stoves I've aquire over the years gotta love garage sales LoL !!!

  • @ask4moor
    @ask4moor Před rokem

    Detailed explanation 👌

  • @stevensmith1911
    @stevensmith1911 Před 2 lety

    Explained so well. Thanks!

  • @sethh2013
    @sethh2013 Před 7 lety +5

    thumbs up! love your stove reviews!

  • @yemarican
    @yemarican Před 3 lety

    background blocks of steel... you robbed the wrong bank... loool ... thanks buddy ... I appreciate you sharing this with us. I already have a coleman two burner stove but this one seems kind of more portable. I think I will order me one after I saw how powerful it is ;)

  • @Mr.rawrface
    @Mr.rawrface Před 3 lety +1

    The 533 is my go to stove. Ive had mine for many years and the only thing ive had to do to it is put gas in it

  • @slidingdoor9055
    @slidingdoor9055 Před 4 lety

    Good survival gear for SHTF. Bought one yesterday.

  • @dave1secondago
    @dave1secondago Před 5 lety

    they are awesome stoves , I picked mine up in a yard sale £3 needed the gen cleaning like new now

  • @lindadiaz3268
    @lindadiaz3268 Před 6 lety

    Great video, I've had my stove like forever but I list the instructions thank you for sharing

  • @cagedraptor
    @cagedraptor Před 7 lety

    sounds like a nice stove to have. Great job. Thanks for sharing

  • @brianj123458
    @brianj123458 Před 7 lety

    I love these Colman stove I had a dual fuel 2 burner and used gas on it and it stop working in had uncle fix it and now only run white fuel my unless said it was clogged and he said it was the gas? but I'm not sure I just buy Coleman fuel only Need 1-2 gallons during camping season every year but it is good to be able to use gas if have to. thank for video great info as always love your channel God bless

    • @fratermus5502
      @fratermus5502 Před 4 lety

      The generator tube is not empty inside; there is material in there designed to increase the surface area and transfer more heat into the liquid fuel for more efficient vaporization. Coleman fuel (white gas) burns very cleanly and it may take gallons of fuel to eventually foul (gunk up) the interior of the generator. Now to your stove: unleaded has a lot more additives in it and it gunks the genny faster. Maybe 2-3x faster depending on the gasoline.
      You'd have to do the math to see if the price of unleaded vs. coleman fuel offsets the price of replacement generators. Obviously in an emergency you do what you have to do and clean up the mess later. :-)

  • @ARCHSTANTON61
    @ARCHSTANTON61 Před 4 lety +1

    when using petrol/gasoline, add a few drops redX or injector cleaner to a gallon, and shake well.. this will stop any blockages, its just like colemans fuel then..

  • @VansWorld
    @VansWorld Před 7 lety

    Thanks for the video. I've been looking into buying a stove.

  • @Otis010707
    @Otis010707 Před rokem +1

    Just bought my first Coleman white gas stove(a 533) and appreciate the video. BTW- are those bullets or worm weights your casting?

  • @hpjan
    @hpjan Před 4 lety

    Das sind die besten Benzinkocher👍

  • @masonic72
    @masonic72 Před 5 lety

    I know this is an older video . and your 400 rebuild video helped me with mine.(Thanks for the help). These stoves are awesome ,I agree . Try to pick up a Coleman 500 speedmaster. I've heard it said the 500 is the Best single burner Coleman ever made. How true that is? IDK , But i would really like to see your take on the 500. I bet you would love it

  • @bfedits816
    @bfedits816 Před 3 lety

    dude thanks you're so helpful!

  • @rethasmit500
    @rethasmit500 Před 2 lety

    How long does the fuel in the stove last? How much fuel do you take for a week long trip?

  • @larsqaqqaq9970
    @larsqaqqaq9970 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video, the only problem I have with the single burner stove is when I overfill the tank, it won't light and the gas floods all over, what's the best way to get the stove running again, drain the tank dry?

  • @richdomiter8034
    @richdomiter8034 Před 4 lety

    I would like to see you do a repair on the 508 Coleman single burner. I unable to get a generator and was wondering if you can somehow clean these.

  • @johnlord8337
    @johnlord8337 Před 7 lety +1

    I haven't seen one of those since Moses used them in the desert after the Exodus .... Back then we had 003s. You have enough bullets and lead bars ... "where's the gunpowder" and percussion caps?

  • @heathschwab
    @heathschwab Před 7 lety +1

    thanks. great video. god bless.

  • @rezamohamadakhavan_abdolla8627

    Thanks for the demo.
    How often do you have to apply 60 pumps and what is fuel capacity and duration of the fuel on high flame setting?.
    Thanks.

  • @mikerilling2745
    @mikerilling2745 Před 3 lety +1

    What have you found to be the easiest way to unplug a clogged generator tube to return it to service ?

  • @Nagap08
    @Nagap08 Před 5 lety +1

    Skeet how many ounces of gasoline did you put in it initially ? I bought one is on its way January 15TH , 2019. Thanks 🙏. Oh will you make a video on its maintenance ?

  • @OutnBacker
    @OutnBacker Před 6 lety +4

    No non-sense demo for a no non-sense stove. That's exactly how I've always done it and I've never had any problems. These things are bomb-proof. Anyone who thinks these things won't simmer needs to go and look at my videos Breakfast Using Coleman Stoves1, 2 & 3. I don't burn my bacon.

    • @totallyfrozen
      @totallyfrozen Před 6 lety +1

      OutnBacker
      Agreed. You can certainly simmer on these. As far as I can tell, people who can’t simmer on it either need to clean or replace the generator or clean or replace the control valve.
      BTW, for those who don’t know, the Low and High settings on this stove are not hard stops in the valve. The valve sweeps. Meaning you can gradually increase or decrease the flame level. You could, say, have it burning at Ultra Low or Medium Low or Medium or Medium High, etc.

  • @masongates246
    @masongates246 Před 4 lety

    OK. right here. right now. IF you had to decide only one. would you pick the coleman 533 or other simular coleman 442 etc OR the svea 123 ?

  • @Captain_Char
    @Captain_Char Před 4 lety

    I think the best thing about these stoves, is the fuel wont freeze up like a small propane will after extended use

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 4 lety

      The small propane stoves use a mix of propane & butane. So in cold weather at or below freezing, the butane will remain unvapourised after all the propane is used up.
      This Coleman stove may need to have the generator preheated with fire-paste in cold weather though...

    • @OsmanKErol
      @OsmanKErol Před rokem

      @@jonathantan2469 I you have a canister stove that has a generator in it and can use the canister upside down, you will burn both (butane and propane).

  • @macbutty1
    @macbutty1 Před 5 lety +1

    Could you use isopropanol as a fuel

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 4 lety +1

      I don't think so. It's not an alcohol stove. It's meant to use naptha/Coleman fuel/white gas/shellite, or petrol/gasoline.

  • @jonny9884
    @jonny9884 Před 5 lety

    So, would you recommend this one over the Coleman Exponent Multi-Fuel Stove ?

  • @caltari
    @caltari Před 3 lety

    My 533 sputters in low and high position, what would be causing it? Thanks in advance. Mahalo

  • @dmike2899
    @dmike2899 Před 4 lety

    Hey thanks for the info. But what octane rating did you used or as per recommendation?

    • @totallyfrozen
      @totallyfrozen Před 3 lety

      Coleman fuel/white gas is low octane (50 octane). If you’re buying gasoline at the pump, try to buy the LOWEST octane you can. If you can find Ethanol Free, get that!

  • @troopygino
    @troopygino Před 6 lety

    Hey its a very nice stove but does anyone know what it will run like on mixed 2 stroke petrol, chainsaw mixed petrol for example. You think it would get all blocked up?

    • @Hoonozit
      @Hoonozit Před 5 lety +2

      I say don't do it. It would eventually clog up with lol residue.

  • @Pao69614
    @Pao69614 Před 3 lety

    Can use with 20% alcohol mix fuel?

  • @climatechange1246
    @climatechange1246 Před 5 lety

    Does anyone know if this Single Coleman Burner can be used with the Coleman Camp Oven?

  • @LetsCook2gether
    @LetsCook2gether Před 5 lety

    A few days ago I bought one online from someone. If I turn it on it begins just like yours high flame but suddenly it also burns under the head. Do you know what this mean? Is it dangerous?

  • @theMekanik
    @theMekanik Před 4 lety

    Will it burn JP8 / Avgas / Jet A Fuel 🤔

  • @varnellhopkinsiii6863
    @varnellhopkinsiii6863 Před 2 lety

    Have you compared burning regular unleaded vs ethanol free gasoline?

  • @krossnkuss2875
    @krossnkuss2875 Před 4 lety +2

    A 5 mins intro with crappier music would have been better.

  • @Ojeramup12
    @Ojeramup12 Před 4 lety

    Does it work better with unleaded without ethanol?

    • @fratermus5502
      @fratermus5502 Před 4 lety

      Ethanol fuels are expressly forbidden in Coleman gear. Exception: there are some rare models that are ok with it due to special seals. Those units are yellow (like corn, I guess).

  • @Hockeyfan9884
    @Hockeyfan9884 Před 5 lety

    I am in another country and have to pay 105 dollars to get one , is it worth it at that price ???

  • @NJPurling
    @NJPurling Před 6 lety

    I would like to ask how much fuel was in the stove ?
    I just won a 533 on ebay & wanted to cover the differences in operating procedure between it and it's grand daddy, the Coleman 502.

  • @and...8786
    @and...8786 Před 3 lety

    What is the quantity of fuel that you have to add to the coleman 533?

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 3 lety +1

      It's about 1 pint (just around 500 mL) full. You can actually put less fuel into it if you are going on a 1 night camping trip. That helps to reduce the total weight. But you will need to pump more to build up the pressure, as there is more air inside the tank...

  • @davyboy1379
    @davyboy1379 Před 7 lety

    I have the same stove. Is there a trick to getting the stove on a very low simmer without it going out.
    I want to heat up pies and pasties in a pan but the heat needs to be very low.
    David.

    • @OutnBacker
      @OutnBacker Před 6 lety

      That's a tough task for a stove of most types. I suggest using a foil pan as a double heater. Put some water in the foil pan and then set the pan holding your food inside , setting on a few pebbles to keep it off the bottom - like a steam table. That's my experience with the Colemans. They will simmer, but not as well as some other types - most of which I have used and broken or lost parts off of. You can use a Coleman 533 for a jack stand. Otherwise, for baked goods, I use a reflector oven and bake from scratch.

    • @vwmetal66
      @vwmetal66 Před 5 lety

      I've never had one of these and been looking at getting one. One thing I noticed is after he lit the stove he pumped it more and on the same setting the flame got bigger. My logic tells me to not pump it up much more and you should be able to get a lower flame. Anyone concur with this?

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 4 lety +1

      @@vwmetal66 I have this stove, and from experience & feedback from online, if you want a reliable low flame, there are 3 things to do;
      - after starting the stove, leave the flame high for another half minute or so after the flames have turned blue. This lets the generator pipe remain hot to vapourise the fuel when you turn it down to low
      - don't pump too many times before lighting it. I use 20 pumps and that was enough. No further pumps after lighting.
      - generator pipe should be well maintained. Clogs from fuel residue & soot will affect the low flame setting.

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 4 lety +1

      Id like to add that I was also advised to crank the flame to high for 30 seconds AFTER using the low flame setting, and before turning it off. In theory, this will help burn off fuel residue that has built up in the generator tube from the low flame setting.

  • @bbjagaa
    @bbjagaa Před 5 lety

    Mine is also dual fuel, but the other fuel is kerosene, and it has a separate generator for kerosene

  • @hassanmirza1199
    @hassanmirza1199 Před 2 lety

    Which oils you are using to burn it up?? Simple kerosene oil can also be used in it or not???

  • @Platano_macho
    @Platano_macho Před 4 lety

    Mine burns kerosene but it takes awhile to warm up

  • @charlesmartin7347
    @charlesmartin7347 Před 5 lety

    Can you over fill them ?
    I'm testing mine out now but it just sputters and it's new. Help me

    • @fratermus5502
      @fratermus5502 Před 4 lety

      They can be overfilled, but basically all that does is make it difficult to pressurize.

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 4 lety

      You shouldn't put more than half a litre of fuel in the tank. The stove needs a sufficient airspace inside to be pressurised, which forces the liquid fuel through the valve when it is opened.

  • @AnwaResidence
    @AnwaResidence Před 4 lety

    cool

  • @embaradosmithingandwoodcraft

    I did this a few months ago

  • @deepakpatelji
    @deepakpatelji Před 3 lety

    Please tell me LxWxH of this stove. I want to put it in my bikes panniers.

  • @user-vt9wy1zb7z
    @user-vt9wy1zb7z Před 4 lety

    You can cook as much as 8Quert

  • @t41flyer
    @t41flyer Před 3 lety

    Can you use isopropyl alcohol in this?

  • @mattingly1217
    @mattingly1217 Před 3 lety

    Got the duel fuel lantern and saw this ... said hmph and bout this too... you never know how much worse this COVID crap will get

  • @bigalcervantes5118
    @bigalcervantes5118 Před 3 lety

    I cant find this stove on amazon anymore.

  • @khaledodamat7410
    @khaledodamat7410 Před 2 lety

    How much money 💰

  • @justinrobinson692
    @justinrobinson692 Před 4 lety

    Does it work for lead casting lol jk nice lead collection

  • @MadScientist750
    @MadScientist750 Před 3 lety

    can they be used with B100 biodiesel?

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 3 lety

      I don't think so. Biodiesel is similar to kerosene, which doesn't work on this stove... it uses gasoline or naphtha fuel.

  • @shivamsummiter1312
    @shivamsummiter1312 Před 6 lety

    is this work on diesel or kerosene ?

    • @cillaloves2fish688
      @cillaloves2fish688 Před 5 lety

      Unleaded I believe and the Coleman liquid fuel in a plastic bottle

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 5 lety

      I read some users have burned kerosene on it... but you need to heat the generator and gas ring with methylated spirit or kerosene first. Kerosene apprently will also clog the generator faster.

    • @fratermus5502
      @fratermus5502 Před 4 lety

      The kero-capable models are called "multifuel" by Coleman.

    • @fratermus5502
      @fratermus5502 Před 4 lety

      @@jonathantan2469 Doesn't work great because of the jetting. Kero-capable units come with a separate gen with different jetting. I don't remember if the tube is different or not.

  • @mani8t2
    @mani8t2 Před 5 lety

    How long does it last? And how much fuel

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 4 lety

      3 hrs on high with half a litre of fuel (about 1 pint).

  • @parkerazz4385
    @parkerazz4385 Před 3 lety

    Currently $103 o. Amazon.. missed opertunity.

  • @explorermike19
    @explorermike19 Před 6 lety

    The 533 is probably the worst of all the Coleman stoves due to the poor flame control. The Coleman single burner stoves are bigger and heavier than other backpacking stoves, but their saving grace was always the unmatched flame control. The 533 eliminated the precision flame adjustment that previous Coleman models had making it really just a heavy, bulky stove that either runs too hot or not at all.

    • @OutnBacker
      @OutnBacker Před 6 lety +1

      Explorer Mike, I know lots of people say this about the 533/442 series, but I have not had any issues over 45 years of using Coleman liquid fuel stoves if I pressurize them properly. This includes not over-filling the tank, which is critical. I invite you to look at this vid. I'm what you might consider Old School and was taught by even Older School Dads how to light these things and get a simmer. I've never been disappointed, but do agree that Coleman, like every other manufacturer, has cut out some production costs. czcams.com/video/L9agazGwW4g/video.html

    • @totallyfrozen
      @totallyfrozen Před 6 lety +1

      Huh?
      You can certainly simmer on these. As far as I can tell, people who can’t simmer on it either need to clean or replace the generator or clean or replace the control valve.
      BTW, for those who don’t know, the Low and High settings on this stove are not hard stops in the valve. The valve sweeps. Meaning you can gradually increase or decrease the flame level. You could, say, have it burning at Ultra Low or Medium Low or Medium or Medium High, etc. Maintenance and skill development will get you there.

    • @ivansantiesteban4094
      @ivansantiesteban4094 Před 5 lety

      Mines won’t simmer down..I’m thinking about cleaning it up.

    • @ckott99
      @ckott99 Před 5 lety

      Explorer Mike, I totally agree with your assessment. My grandparents used Coleman stoves, as did my parents, and I also have a dual burner Coleman 424 stove. I am exceptionally disappointed with the lack of flame control on a recently purchased 533. It's been that way since the very start (I currently have about 2 hours of cooking time on it, having used only Coleman fuel). It won't simmer down like all other Coleman stoves I've ever used. Like you said, my 533 stove runs too hot or not at all. It's good for boiling water. For cooking, I'm constantly lifting the pan off the burner to prevent burning food. I was planning on using this for a 10 day backpacking trip, but at this point I'm seriously rethinking whether to take this stove along (calling 1950s Primus No. 71 from the basement). In my view the 533 is a major stain on the Coleman reputation for quality camping stoves.
      For those who say the 533 has good flame control, I guess you guys got good units, but I sure didn't. I've used Coleman lanterns and stoves for 40+ years, and the performance of the 533 unit I got simply isn't up to what I expected from Coleman.

    • @OsmanKErol
      @OsmanKErol Před rokem

      @@ckott99 I cook rice, meat whatever I want with light metal camping pots without problems. Simply you must turn the lever a bit precisely to obtain the flame height you want. It is very simple.If you operate it a little bit fast, you will observe two flame powers. I have checked it through its patent documents, it really has two positions for flame height "in theory" but in practice you adjust it as you want. Burn it high for a while than come back slowly, very slowly. Good luck.

  • @RDBARON_insta
    @RDBARON_insta Před 6 lety +1

    Be

  • @zacharyoconnor4176
    @zacharyoconnor4176 Před 4 lety

    Just bought a brand new one and the piece of shit isn't working already😂

  • @wxfield
    @wxfield Před 7 lety

    Has anyone ever tried Kerosene in these?

    • @embaradosmithingandwoodcraft
      @embaradosmithingandwoodcraft Před 7 lety

      NO it will clog if you use it to much

    • @wxfield
      @wxfield Před 7 lety

      Is that "No, I haven't tried it, but I think it will clog", or "No, I tried it and it clogs?"

    • @embaradosmithingandwoodcraft
      @embaradosmithingandwoodcraft Před 7 lety

      have done it and it WILL CLOG

    • @jd7713
      @jd7713 Před 7 lety +1

      I have used kero and it works fine. You will have to prime it with a bit of alcohol.

  • @peskybobcat
    @peskybobcat Před 2 lety

    I did not buy this stove for cooking I got it for an emergency heater for my car we see temps anywhere from 6 to 0 degree you will die in your car at thees temperatures yes I know you must vent this stove

  • @box420
    @box420 Před 4 lety +1

    God your intro is long

  • @pavman1000
    @pavman1000 Před 6 měsíci

    NO! your not suppose to give that additonial 30 pumps. unless the flame is flickering or about to go out.

  • @tylerhurd9569
    @tylerhurd9569 Před 5 lety

    Just go propane. Keep the cylinders and re fuel them yourself, so much cheaper than camp fuel.