How to recognise Minor key chord progressions by ear

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    Check out my previous ear training video on Major key chord progressions: • How to recognise chord...
    Relative pitch is a skill that any musician can learn and it allows you to identify the chord progression of a song just by ear! Today we'll look at some of the most likely chords you'll encounter in minor key songs and how to recognise them just by ear!
    The outro music to this video is my track "Mothers Day" which you can hear in full on Spotify: open.spotify.com/artist/0wKKJ... 🎶
    And, an extra special thanks goes to Douglas Lind, Vidad Flowers, Ivan Pang, Waylon Fairbanks, Jon Dye, Austin Russell, Christopher Ryan, Toot & Paul Peijzel, the channel’s Patreon saints! 😇
    0:00 Introduction
    0:38 i
    1:53 v
    3:08 V
    4:19 iv
    5:32 IV
    6:28 bVI
    7:17 Roman numerals in Minor key
    8:19 bvi
    9:31 Timbro
    10:21 ii(dim)
    12:30 ii
    13:13 II
    14:21 bVII
    15:28 bIII
    17:00 bII
    18:18 bV
    19:17 biii
    20:21 I
    22:00 QUIZ TIME
    27:00 Patreon
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Komentáře • 223

  • @cerealdude890
    @cerealdude890 Před 6 měsíci +68

    Ill need to rewatch these videos a few times, but they’re exactly what I need right now to play at the next level. You’re helping make higher level music accessible for the masses and I commend you for it.

  • @lov3alongmusic
    @lov3alongmusic Před 6 měsíci +44

    Your videos being music education to so many people who wouldn't have it otherwise

  • @SongSecretsMomNeverTaughtYou
    @SongSecretsMomNeverTaughtYou Před 6 měsíci +63

    Rare intervals I'd love to see in a future sequel to this video is the bVIIm, especially found in Glass Onion by The Beatles and Love Street by The Doors! Another one is the VIm found in I Heard It Through The Grapevine and Come Together

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  Před 6 měsíci +34

      Good idea! Another good example is “Hey You” by Pink Floyd 😊

    • @christianmanasco5658
      @christianmanasco5658 Před 5 měsíci

      @@DavidBennettPianoplease talk about pink floyd more!! 🥹 you are such a valuable resource. thank you for aiding me in my journey through music and life. this video and it’s’ major counterpart are genuinely two of my f a v o r i t e videos you’ve ever made

  • @odarting
    @odarting Před 6 měsíci +20

    This might be my favorite video of yours yet. And it just reinforces what a treasure you are for the world’s understanding of music moving forward. No snobbiness, no prizing of lofty concepts over crowd-pleasing pop devices. You just break everything down into such relatable pieces that it makes me enjoy thinking about music theory. Now I’ll finally be able to hear a piece of music in a film and go - that sounds spooky, they’re [maybe] going from the minor tonic to the minor six chord! Thank you 🙏
    EDIT after being humbled by the quiz at the end: I still have a lot of work to do but am grateful for the examples to study 😅

  • @user-tw3re9hg3j
    @user-tw3re9hg3j Před 6 měsíci +14

    Im loving the Mario mushroom sound to power up the minor 5 to a major 5 😂

    • @Paulnap
      @Paulnap Před 6 měsíci +2

      Wich I think is a really fast arpeggio of bVI -> bVII -> I

  • @christopherfryda
    @christopherfryda Před 6 měsíci

    Solid video, I love this channel, thank you!!!

  • @TigerRogers0660
    @TigerRogers0660 Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent informative video David!! Enjoyed!!

  • @ThisFeatureisPointlessLmao
    @ThisFeatureisPointlessLmao Před 6 měsíci +59

    That Gorillaz art in the thumbnail is fanart by Glowrillaz btw. Just felt it was important to give credit.

  • @JoshPaterson
    @JoshPaterson Před 5 měsíci

    Extremely useful information. Thank you!

  • @fredhystair5789
    @fredhystair5789 Před 5 měsíci

    Yours videos are gems, always !

  • @KeejMEdia
    @KeejMEdia Před 4 měsíci +1

    David, I truly appreciate your videos, both educational and entertaining. Keep it up.

  • @anime5h_m1shr4
    @anime5h_m1shr4 Před 4 měsíci

    This was incredibly helpful. Heartfelt thank you!! 🙌🏼

  • @datooch
    @datooch Před 5 měsíci

    Much respect to you. I enjoy your teachings. Thank you for the sharing of your knowledge.

  • @gnoelalexmay
    @gnoelalexmay Před měsícem

    That was a REALLY good one!
    I always enjoy your videos, but that was excellent and useful. Thanks David 🙏

  • @weepingscorpion8739
    @weepingscorpion8739 Před 6 měsíci +17

    While IV may not be as common as V, it is common in Doric contexts. I mention this because you brought up Dorian in another context. bII may be borrowed just do avoid a diminished chord, so in Hocus Pocus by Focus when Thijs goes up the scale towards the end of each "verse", he always does bII. In terms of functional harmonics, I remember that we used to use the term "parallel tonic", in major it'd be vi and in minor bIII, which is why bIII feels like home in a minor setting, it's the parallel tonic. (it's in the "same but opposite" position in the circle of fifths). Lastly, Picardy third, in my ears, a recent use of the Picardy third (and the IV chord as the song seems to flirt with Dorian a lot), is Australia's 2023 Eurovision entry "Promise" by Voyager. The last 3 chords are bVI - bVII - I, so an æolian cadence ending on a Picardy third.

  • @jesusalejandrogutierrezsul9625
    @jesusalejandrogutierrezsul9625 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Sir, that quiz at the end is a big PLUS to your already fantastic videos. Thanks for making my ear more professional from video to video!

  • @Stephen_Lafferty
    @Stephen_Lafferty Před 6 měsíci +8

    Your set of videos on chords, scales, keys, inversions, slash chords and examples of how each is used is a tremendously informative and accessible information resource! I find them both entertaining and informative, and always point my students towards them when they ask questions on these topics! Thank you for your hard work, David!

  • @panosmosproductions3230
    @panosmosproductions3230 Před 2 měsíci +1

    In the Latin jazz classic Trofeo de Bolos, literally the second chord you hear is a diminished chord. The song switches back and forth between C minor and C major, and starts in C minor. The first 2 chords in this song are C minor, and D diminished.

  • @powertools.studio
    @powertools.studio Před 4 měsíci

    THANKS DB

  • @jakejaffe9706
    @jakejaffe9706 Před 5 měsíci

    This was was tricky! Will need to rewatch.

  • @tobyalan8874
    @tobyalan8874 Před 5 měsíci +4

    You are one of the best teachers. So glad I found you.

  • @aptudo
    @aptudo Před 6 měsíci +5

    It's funny how familiarity can make a rare chord progression feel normal. Today, "Enjoy the Silence" just sounds to me like a super catchy pop song. It did stand out to me when it first came out though.

    • @wellurban
      @wellurban Před 6 měsíci +3

      I think Martin Gore has a bit of a knack for that: chord changes that can feel quite striking on first listen, but that quickly come to sound “natural”.

  • @althealligator1467
    @althealligator1467 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Trying to guess which song you're going to use as an example is a hell of a lot of fun, and I'm... scarily good at it.

  • @ZackMester
    @ZackMester Před 4 měsíci

    Got all of them except the last one but I was close. I'm surprised I did better on the minor chord quiz than the major chord quiz but I think my ear has just sharpened from your major chord video! Also, I love the popular examples you use to help internalize these chord progressions 😄

  • @TigerRogers0660
    @TigerRogers0660 Před 5 měsíci +2

    David, i was confused with your chord progression quiz - as you used some inversions!!

  • @mine2012abl
    @mine2012abl Před měsícem

    Don't speak was the song that came to mind, paused to check before you mentioned I

  • @gabrielevolgarino9138
    @gabrielevolgarino9138 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I'm a simple person: I see Muse in the thumbnail and I click. Nice video David!

  • @pfdavidz
    @pfdavidz Před 5 měsíci

    Great video.

  • @johnjohannes5954
    @johnjohannes5954 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Good job man! Just to point out that you are referring to the "natural" minor scale. If it was the ditonical : the 2nd and 7th are diminished and the 3rd is a augmented cord . For instance on A minor the III is an augmented C - E - G# (used in Mozart Requiem intro) which is actually rare in classical music

  • @thegothaunt
    @thegothaunt Před 6 měsíci

    Fantastic video. I'd forgotten so much of this with the written notation. It still confused me sometimes, I definitely need to keep brushing up. 💜 (Timbro, your logo damn near gave me a headache 😂 oof)

  • @royalex21
    @royalex21 Před 6 měsíci

    The last got me.
    I think I’ll give myself 3/5

  • @william2496
    @william2496 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Brilliant video! as usual, well done and thankyou! Some common themes amongst the chord progression and even your scale videos have been contrasting darkness and brightness, and functional harmony. Is it possible if you could do a video or two on Axis Theory and Negative Harmony?

  • @althealligator1467
    @althealligator1467 Před 6 měsíci +4

    My favourite example of the ii chord in minor (which I'll maintain is the same thing as vii in major) is from a French song called Du côté de chez Swann, which is based on Marcel Proust's novel of the same name (Swann's Way in English). It happens several times in the chorus, and you really feel its sort of dreamy whimsical edge. As a side note, the chorus also uses the James Bond progression.
    Edit: and for the II chord in minor, my favourite example is from Those Were the Days. Or maybe Arabian Nights, I'm not sure, both are super cool.

  • @radiozelaza
    @radiozelaza Před 6 měsíci

    the Muse example of a major II after a bVI is also an example of a secondary dominant use of major II, because the major II leads immediately to a major V (which is the primary dominant of the minor i chord in this song). I would rather see an example where there is a vamp of i-II , but can't think of any pop song using that right now. It just begs the i-II-V resolution ;)

  • @PFDarkside
    @PFDarkside Před 6 měsíci +4

    Absolutely love this series David! I hope it continues with identifying extensions and identifying inversions.
    The major one was a piece of cake, the minor one, well I need more practice outside of i bIII, bVI and bVII!

  • @R0guemetal
    @R0guemetal Před 6 měsíci

    I’ve loved your videos for years. Thank you for the content and the effort involved in making them

  • @annelouisemaclellan485

    The verses in Nirvana’s Pennyroyal Tea have that i-bVII movement going on. About a Girl’s verses are I-bIII back and forth. It’s interesting but in the chorus both songs seem to go somewhere else and outside of that. And I’m pretty sure I’ve also heard Silverchair used that bV. A song like Black Tangled Heart possibly? Their albums Diorama and Young Modern became more harmonically sophisticated and melodic than their earlier heavy riff based sound. The ending of And I Love Her is another good example of ending a minor song on a major tonic.

  • @LUCKYDUCKIES
    @LUCKYDUCKIES Před 5 měsíci

    Habemus mgnum magistrum musicae et suarum progressionum accordorum musicalium. Congratulationes!

  • @btkenobi2
    @btkenobi2 Před 6 měsíci +5

    David this is the musical brain food we all love and need in our lives! 🎵 🧠
    There's a sense of peace and joy in every session and it's so refreshing to gain knowledge in such a fun and inspiring way
    Thanks ever so much for the experience 😊

  • @vincentl9877
    @vincentl9877 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video as always! As a beginner, I was wondering if you know by heart all the (minor) keys, or if you use the relative major. For example, when you play D minor, do you go through the relative major (F) in order to know there is a B flat ? Or do you « instinctively » know there is a B flat ?
    I find it easier to learn the sharps and flats for the major keys, and then make a connection with the relative minor, but do you manage to know all the keys without thinking too much about it when you’re experienced ?

  • @panosmosproductions3230
    @panosmosproductions3230 Před 2 měsíci

    The chord progression heard early on in the Yoshi’s Island Castle theme (which uses the double harmonic scale with the occasional flat 7 here and there) has a major 2 chord in it.

  • @ric8248
    @ric8248 Před 6 měsíci +3

    A nice chord is the Neapolitan chord, which is the bII in 1st inversion. That is, in the key of Am it would be Bb/D. This chord appears a lot in the Moonlight Sonata, and has a very sweet sound.

  • @niratomata
    @niratomata Před 2 měsíci

    can you cover more nuanced modes like Dorian and Lydian?

  • @ljdobles8104
    @ljdobles8104 Před 5 měsíci

    Buenísimo

  • @leonardocefalo2931
    @leonardocefalo2931 Před 3 měsíci

    Another case of major II is in Exit Music by Radiohead, the verse "You can laugh, a spiness laugh" etc
    Edit: it's still mentioned at the end, but for another reason :)

  • @AlobytesOgniddove
    @AlobytesOgniddove Před 5 měsíci

    The end pf Astronomy domine of Pink floyd is D minor and D major....

  • @kippsguitar6539
    @kippsguitar6539 Před 6 měsíci

    I screwed up at the end( mostly) and supposed to be a songwriter haha, great stuff and rude awakening how lazy ive been, brilliant thought provoking stuff

  • @NomeDeArte
    @NomeDeArte Před 6 měsíci

    Totally get Amy's

  • @jacoposcalzi1929
    @jacoposcalzi1929 Před 5 měsíci

    Very interesting video

  • @AlobytesOgniddove
    @AlobytesOgniddove Před 5 měsíci

    Wonderful videos ❤
    (Is difficult for me read THIS mode of transcription chords)

  • @hello_kitty_is_my_religion
    @hello_kitty_is_my_religion Před 6 měsíci

    i got all the progessions right omg! i didnt think i could do it. thanks for making these kinds videos, it really motivates me to learn more:)

  • @JasonKing1970
    @JasonKing1970 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Holy moly I got the first exercise progression correct - that's amazing, thanks David Bennett!

  • @tobiasschmuecking4958
    @tobiasschmuecking4958 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you, David!

  • @13thdukeofwybourne
    @13thdukeofwybourne Před 6 měsíci

    Superb video again David. Thanks very much. The best music theory anywhere. If only I’d had these 35 years ago. Still, I’m enjoying catching up now. 👍

  • @predatorx8081
    @predatorx8081 Před 6 měsíci +1

    My mind: This video is sponsored by hook theory 😂
    These videos are amazing man... You literally taught me music theory in the most simple way - all these years 👍🏿💙

  • @johnmac8084
    @johnmac8084 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I found this much harder than the major one, I'm going to have to work some more on this one

  • @Bearbytez
    @Bearbytez Před 4 měsíci

    7:37 to around 9:40 (whenever the ad starts) encompasses all of my professional work from The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford to modern Disney Star Wars...

  • @zzzaphod8507
    @zzzaphod8507 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The fact that the major version of the V chord appears in both major and minor keys makes it a good pivot chord for people writing music--if you're in a minor key and you want to modulate to the major key, you can end up on the major V chord and then go the major I chord and continue in the major key, or similarly in the other direction.

  • @amrajdhami9293
    @amrajdhami9293 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I absolutely love these videos. Does anybody know if there is a similar style of material for guitar?

    • @nomnom112
      @nomnom112 Před 4 měsíci

      These are music theory concepts so there's no reason it would be different for guitar

  • @gianniskytinos2941
    @gianniskytinos2941 Před 5 měsíci

    17:40 napolitan cord?

  • @teacherofteachers1239
    @teacherofteachers1239 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I get a lot out of these free lessons especially as they push me. I'm not young, been getting back to music, and definitely I've needed to work on this basic skill. One thing I made myself do to learn chord progressions by ear better is to learn them at the piano from listening to simple songs, without sheet music. I'll put a song on repeat and make myself find how it goes in terms of chords just by trial and error. It can take a while. So far I can only do this with really simple stuff (guitar-based popular music is helpful because it tends to narrow down the keys used). These lessons here make me learn the sound of less common music, and that also expands my own creativity. Very nice.

  • @5pp000
    @5pp000 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I found these much harder than the major ones. I wish you had played them all twice or even three times before revealing them.

  • @robertdavis100
    @robertdavis100 Před 4 měsíci

    clint eastwood was taken from a preset on a synth

  • @myuzu_
    @myuzu_ Před 4 dny

    is there a better glyph to differentiate V and v?

  • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
    @whycantiremainanonymous8091 Před 6 měsíci

    ii Pink Floyd's Cymbaline is a great example.

  • @opietaylorpiano
    @opietaylorpiano Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thx for breaking down the two different naming systems. Thought for a moment there was an editing mistake and was scratching my head in much confusion.

  • @stereo123
    @stereo123 Před 5 měsíci

    what if i really sucked at the exercise? how to improve?

  • @DavidBennettPiano
    @DavidBennettPiano  Před 6 měsíci +4

    Learn piano or guitar for FREE with Timbro: timbroguitar.com/davidbennett 🎹🎸

  • @justindensonvibes
    @justindensonvibes Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for making me think of Mario throughout the video.

  • @havenprice
    @havenprice Před 17 dny

    When you tell us to guess at the end, i assure you i am purely guessing 😂 but still a very useful video that i revisit as i improve

  • @tobfos
    @tobfos Před 5 měsíci +1

    I only got the one stepping up the diatonic scale 😅😅

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 Před 6 měsíci

    I was expecting an explanation of Harmonic and Melodic Minor chords. I know David has done this before, but it is a way to educate people to the roots of todays' music.
    I enjoyed this, and realize that I need to devote the time to ear training.

  • @Jgreen2794
    @Jgreen2794 Před 3 měsíci

    Having a genetic condition which renders me incapable of hearing intervals, I never get these right. I do enjoy watching these videos, and find them very educational. Thanks!

  • @chillipepperoni
    @chillipepperoni Před 6 měsíci

    Just what I need rn perfect

  • @jesush.tap-dancingchrist7328

    I do the fretboard equivalent of button bashing but still come out with some decent riffs.
    Love these videos all the same

  • @arijitnandi3688
    @arijitnandi3688 Před 3 měsíci

    LinkinvPark's Final Masquerade uses the repeated loop: i -> bIII

  • @user-gn4lo8vg9m
    @user-gn4lo8vg9m Před 5 měsíci

    I’m surprised you don’t mention that the bvi in the minor key is a chromatic mediant, and quite distant from the minor key. The Imperial march is a great example. But it also occurs in the refrain of Bowie’s “The man who sold the world”, which seems to be in D minor, and e.g. at the words “the man who sold the…” Bb minor occurs--the bvi!

  • @bodanerius
    @bodanerius Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video. Theres also the i minor going to an I major in order to resolve to a iv minor. Can be heard in folk songs from the Balkans, some Fado songs etc

  • @theopinson3851
    @theopinson3851 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I’ve always found minor keys more inspiring to write in. That switch to a major V creates such a satisfying resolution…and if you pair it with a secondary dominant II it’s even better. Major keys just feel…dull most of the time.

  • @tzoreehandler9163
    @tzoreehandler9163 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Another chord is the minor chord built on the sharp 6th degree of the scale, so if we're in A minor, that chord would be F#m.
    A famous example of it is the verse of Light My Fire, which vamps on Am-F#m.

    • @SongSecretsMomNeverTaughtYou
      @SongSecretsMomNeverTaughtYou Před 6 měsíci +3

      Weird youtube glitch, this reply is appearing as a response to two different comments from two different people haha: "The verse of Light My Fire is actually vamping between the minor Vm7 chord and minor IIIm7 of it's major key until the chorus where it finally resolves with a IV - V - I ("come on Baby light my fire"), Am7 - F#m7 - ... - G - A - D (home key of D, ignoring the song being tuned a half step lower). Though it does use a borrowed E chord to get back to the verse which could be considered a type of modulation between D and A minor"

    • @SorooshMhs
      @SorooshMhs Před 4 měsíci

      Gotta love chromatic mediants

  •  Před 6 měsíci

    The classic "i v i v" for me is the intro of Hmm hmm by The Crash Test Dummies.

  • @Gwens42
    @Gwens42 Před 5 měsíci

    What exercise do you recommend doing everyday to get better at reckognising chords ?

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Pick a song you know and love, attempt to work out the chords by ear, experiment at your instrument to see if you’ve got them right, trial and error. Then look up the chords online to see how close you were 😃

    • @Gwens42
      @Gwens42 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@DavidBennettPiano Ok !! 👌 I wasn't sure something that straightforward would bring results, but if you say so, I need to try to make it a routine and finally get better , Thanks David 😀

  • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
    @whycantiremainanonymous8091 Před 6 měsíci

    bVII Deep Purple's Child in Time

  • @esmenard
    @esmenard Před 6 měsíci

    A very similar feeling to the flat 5 is the minor flat 5 in major key at the beginning of New World Symphony (and given the name of the symphony i see why the other-worldly sound)

  • @eklavyaverma
    @eklavyaverma Před 6 měsíci +1

    minor i and major IV are also the chord progression for Earth song by MJ

  • @MannnisEi
    @MannnisEi Před 6 měsíci

    I got 2 right

  • @OssianEMills
    @OssianEMills Před 5 měsíci

    Don’t know how you managed to not play V7’s in those last examples. It’s hard in a minor key to not throw that dominant 7 in on the V.

  • @DiegoRamirez-sv4pb
    @DiegoRamirez-sv4pb Před 4 měsíci

    Who else immediately thought of the Imperial March during the minor sixth progression

  • @timgaul2256
    @timgaul2256 Před 6 měsíci

    Didn’t get ANY. The Beatles’ I’ll Be Back seems to do the i to I thing

  • @freddiekinnaputi
    @freddiekinnaputi Před 6 měsíci

    i will survive g.gaynor on that Am Em?

  • @daandanx
    @daandanx Před 6 měsíci

    The progression at 1:16, from minor to major like that, reminds me of the intro from 'I Feel Love' by Donna Summer.
    Also, one example i know of the biii chord you mention at 19:28 is in Dancing Drums by Ananda Shankar.

  • @carbonmonoxide5052
    @carbonmonoxide5052 Před 6 měsíci

    Another example of major I in minor is in the first movement of Shostakovich’s String Quartet No. 8. It’s in C minor but we occasionally get C major chords (spelled with Fb instead of E). They do not sound resolved at all, and the best way I could describe them is Csus b4 since they resolve down to Eb.

  • @panosmosproductions3230
    @panosmosproductions3230 Před 6 měsíci

    Another example of the minor 2 chord in use is Windmill Hut “song of storms” from the legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. It goes, D minor E minor F major E minor and then returns home (D minor).

  • @feldsparsongs2331
    @feldsparsongs2331 Před 6 měsíci

    I hope you’ll make a book or pdf with progressions and example links- I’ll def buy it!!

  • @party-sy2tk
    @party-sy2tk Před 5 měsíci +1

    Can someone please explain to me why David sometimes uses a flat chord symbol in the minor chord progressions. Is it actually a flat chord or not?? I am totally confused!! I thought the chords were exactly the same as the major key chords...🤔🤷‍♀😵‍💫

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 Před 5 měsíci

      He does it to please the ludicrous people from a bygone age that refuse to accept that minor scales and Arabic numbers have been invented. Some classical music snobs will insist that a 1-6 in A minor (A minor to F major) is actually a i-bVI in A major. They label the F as a bVI because in A *major* the sixth degree of the scale is F *sharp*, so to play an F natural in A major, you have to flatten the sixth. This confusion could be solved if we just decided that all scales are major (e.g. "A minor doesn't exist; it's just C major") and that an Am to F change is a vi-IV (6-4) in C major, or we agreed that A minor is a legitimate key and that Am-F is a simple 1-6 (i-VI) in minor. Instead, the classical nerds go with something that's far more complicated and confusing, because they hate modern life and think we should all still speak Latin and use little sharp and flat symbols and Roman numerals instead of integers and modern words.

    • @party-sy2tk
      @party-sy2tk Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@AutPen38 Oh thanks so much for your reply. I kinda vaguely understand where David is coming from now but I totally agree with you that it is WAY too complicated and confusing. Yes I can see why you use the word "ludicrous"!!! Why why why???!!!! Yes an Am to F could just be vi - IV!!! Brilliant!!! I'm with you!!! 😃👍👍👍

    • @party-sy2tk
      @party-sy2tk Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@AutPen38 And so I guess you are saying that if we use the Arabic numerals e.g. 6 - 4 rather than the Roman numerals then you just have to know that a 6 chord is a minor chord and a 4 chord is a major chord. I guess that is not a lot to ask of someone with a reasonable understanding of music theory...

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@party-sy2tk To be fair, the system David mentioned seems logical, precise, and useful for analysis of long-form classical music that features tons of chords and occasional modulations of the scale. e.g. If Beethoven wrote a "Symphony in A" it would use A major as the tonic ("the one") and could use F# minor ("the sixth") as one of the harmonies, but Ludwig might change/modulate the scale for a sad section where he uses A minor and F major for the harmonies, before going back to the A major scale to finish the piece. In that scenario, it makes sense to describe the Am-F section of a song in A as i-bVI, because Am is the minor version of the tonic chord (A major), and F is a flatted major version of the sixth degree (F# minor) of the original A major scale. The lower case i would clearly indicate that you're changing to the minor version of the tonic (A), and the upper-case bVI would mean "instead of playing the usual sixth chord of A major, which is the F# minor you've been using for the last five minutes, flatten it to F and play it as a major chord for this section".
      In modern loop-based pop/dance, however, modulations of scales rarely occur, so we don't really need Roman numerals or the flat/sharp signs. If someone says "I love this new hip hop song. It just loops round A minor to F for 80 bars", it can be easily understood as a "1-6 in A minor", (aka "i-VI in A minor"), or a "6-4 or vi-IV in C major". If the bassline stayed rooted on F and I wanted to be opaque, I could describe it as a "3-1 in F lydian", but it doesn't really matter, as all these descriptions just mean the chords go from A minor to F major. I think most musicians can remember that the 6th chord in a major scale is a minor chord and the sixth is a major chord in a minor scale, but I think that when we say things like "It's that 1 5 6 4 pattern again" it's important to specify whether the scale we're using is major, minor, lydian or whatever. Most people are more familiar with major scales, but many others (e.g. producers of house/techno music) routinely work with minor scales, or one of the rarer modes (lydian, phrygian, mixolydian etc), so you have to specify the key/scale alongside the numbers. e.g. "It's a 1 5 6 4 in C major" or "It's a 3 7 1 6 in A minor" both produce the same chords (C G Am F).

    • @party-sy2tk
      @party-sy2tk Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@AutPen38 Thanks so much for in depth explanation. Am getting my head around the system David uses. I guess he is classically trained and that's just what he uses...

  • @thefoss5387
    @thefoss5387 Před 6 měsíci

    David, how would you describe the Beatles I'll Be Back? The song drifts with the move from i to I (Am to A) in both the intro and the coda, as well as starting each verse as minor with a picardy third ending. I hear it as a minor key tune, overall, mainly, from the context of the lyrics, a meditation on parting, but, it does seem to drift between modes. Lennon was quite cavalier about measure lengths, time signatures, and chord qualities, so he does leave a lot of room for interpretation. I appreciate your work, and thanks.

  • @educat1on166
    @educat1on166 Před 4 měsíci

    for me the best example of i and IV is bad by michael jackson

  • @wandajames143
    @wandajames143 Před 6 měsíci

    It be cool to have a vid or maybe you do how the Beatles just use the major and minor interchangeably. Never could figure how to notate it with Roman numerals

  • @AIDLEN-Artist_in_Development

    Really great and informative video, buuuuuuut: The Title is not accurate at all. I mean you just went through the possible chords and gave examples but you didn't show me how to recognise these chords by ear. I also got 0 of the chord progressions at the end right so I guess that underlines my point?
    But anyways still a very helpful video!

  • @B0K1T0
    @B0K1T0 Před 6 měsíci +3

    4:53 don't do that too fast though, or you might get demonetized by Dr Dre ;)