Should Christians Be Nice People?
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- Bishop Irenei of London & Western Europe (ROCOR)
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Sometimes not being nice is one of the most loving things you can do.
Jesus wasn’t being nice when he kicked the money lenders out of the temple and when he stopped the hypocritical men from stoning the woman caught in adultery. I follow Jesus, not Norman Vincent peele or the Vatican ll church of nice.
Think of the Prophets; they were definitely not nice. Many people wanted them to shut up.
@@kansashoneybadger7899 I wouldn’t say they weren’t nice. But they spoke the truth straight from God, and no one wants to hear the truth.
@@user-ov6bv9cn1o Of course they weren't "nice."
Jeremiah 25:15 This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, said to me: “Take from my hand this cup filled with the wine of my wrath and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. 16 When they drink it, they will stagger and go mad because of the sword I will send among them.”
You call this "nice.?" Nobody listening thought that and rightly so. Nice is for children.
@@kansashoneybadger7899 well why are you quoting Old Testament scripture?. I’m a Christian. I thought you were too. We live under the new covenant not the old. Now we are allowed to defend ourselves, whether as individuals or nations which is why st Augustine developed the theory of the just war. Jesus told the apostles hen people won’t hear you and reject you, shake the dust off your feet and move on to the next town. There was tremendous violence in the Old Testament and Christ died on the cross to fulfill the Jewish law and give all of us the opportunity for salvation. The OT is a good learning tool for the run up to christs ministry but I live by the words of Jesus Christ.
I’m struggling with temptations to smoke marijuana. Lord Jesus Christ Son of God have mercy on me a sinner. Please pray for me 🙏
Best see a GP for your sake if will power isn't strong enough yet. Most importantly know that one day you'll awaken and you've won the victory you seek
You can be clean, ask God for help.🙏
Confess to your spiritual father my dear brother and trust in God for His grace. May the Lord Jesus Christ be with you Steven
We can get clean, stay clean if we are willing to rely on God, 14 years clean and sober, the lie is dead WE do recover.
I cannot eat enough without marijuana. Surely God does not want me to die of wasting.
Being nice is opening a door for someone, so they can enter a building.
Loving others is when we help each other enter heaven.
Amen. Wisdom.
What I've always told myself is that we should be kind and loving, but not always nice.
There's a huge difference between three
Niceness is a coat we can put on to get what we want. It is not the same as goodness.
I am serbian orthodox , and my grandfather told a story when he was a kid about how the priest took his ear and slap him because he didn't take off the hat when he enter in the church.
But today you can see mothers just let the kids screaming in church yard even disrupted liturgy , and when priest said stop that or get out , many modern belivers people said that priest was rude and not nice.
I love priests like that , because they are not nice to disrespectfull people , and that is love.
Sorry about my bad english.
I completely agree with you!
You are right, niceness has become more important because we are afraid to be rejected by the new culture that has embraced love of self.
@@lisagleim1436The Serbs are a nice bunch.
Left SDA Joined Orthodoxy pls pray for me! Everyday is a new day for learning and spiritual regeneration!
The wisdom in Orthodoxy is like a rejuvenating fruit, with every bite you feel better.
I was SDA for 11 years, left it in 2005, became Orthodox in 2017. Welcome home!
Me to I also left sda
What is SDA?
@@davidjohnson4298 glory to God
I visited a Hallmark Greeting Card store recently. In the store was a standalone display of purportedly "Christian" merchandise. ( anything - even outright pandering - to make a profit ) One of the items on the display was a tea towel with the following message printed on it: "Be Nice; Jesus said so." This is the world's view of the Christian faith, and it is a tragic caricature both of the truth, and of the message of Jesus Christ, who is the Truth. Let us so act as Christians as to give the culture a true picture of our Saviour and Lord.
I learned to be nice because I used to be the opposite - I would often wield the truth without love, which is not truly truth.
Now I am Christian I struggle to unlearn being nice because love without truth is not truly love.
Please pray for me.
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Truly He is risen!
I was taught “niceness” when I grew up in the church of Christ and the baptist church.
In my opinion, this has been a very destructive mindset because it prevents you from calling out evil, and from being assertive as a follower of Christ should be.
I am currently trying to reprogram myself from “niceness” but I think I still have work to do. My aim is not to be a “nice man” but a “good man”
I don’t think Baptists have a problem with calling out “evil”.
It sounds to me like a lot of the responses to this video are people looking to rationalize being a moralizer. Loving people involves helping others, not “calling them out” and distancing yourself from them.
@@Jd-808I see what you mean but niceness typically calls for being compromising. Which we can’t compromise on the truth or love. Love is tough as well as good and kind. It means we love someone so much that we tell them they’re doing or saying something wrong. If you loved your child you give them the most bitter medicine if it meant they were to get better. In this same way love demands that we sometimes take someone outside of their comfort zone for the sake of their betterment.
@@Jd-808 Baptist and Pentecostal are most Heretical fake christians in human history there is nothing worse than them
@@poptart2323 And you can do that lovingly and with compassion. I’m not talking about “compromising”, I’m talking about being realistic with yourself and not pretending that coldness is love, that withholding love is love. It isn’t. We have to be willing to love to the point of vulnerability outside of our comfort zone, for the sake of everyone’s betterment - for our own betterment. Love isn’t “being right”.
@@Jd-808 you’re speaking of things that irrelevant. No one is speaking of coldness but no longer being nice as nice is compromising. We are called to be good and loving. Not nice. So again, I’m kinda confused what your point is with your reply to me as I never spoke of being cold and I don’t see anyone else advocating for such things
Beautiful Iconography!!!
I agree
It's walking that royal path between kindness, gentleness etc. and that harder, more pointed acts of love that's so hard. Lord grant us wisdom!
How do I draw the boundary? I was so agreeable before being a christian. Now that I am a Christian, it is worse! Pray for me please.
Maybe you need a little assertiveness training?
My frenemy used to be 'nice' to me 😢
Well said…we love our children but at times we cannot be nice to them bc they need guidance & discipline to help them develop into their best. I believe this also applies to all ppl….Christ commanded us to love our neighbors like ourselves. & even love your enemy not be nice to them. Our sacrifice to love others is imitating our Lord
Thank you Bishop Irenei, Patristic Nectar ... Excellent Video... Grateful
Be good not nice...being nice is mistaken as a weakness
If you are nice, then you agree with others, but if you love someone, then you also warn and admonish that person. Above all, love also consists of wanting the best for the other person and, for example, warning and calling out sin. None of this is part of being nice.
to keep the comment short, i had someone being evil in my home and after trying to reason with them, the last call of action was force. i tried explaining the situation to a protty and they couldnt understand that conflict is sometimes necessary when handling evil. the good news is the opponent repented and has never crossed my holy boundaries again
The way you’re talking about this in such abstract terms is a bit disturbing.
He was fighting demons lol@@Jd-808
@@Jd-808 me thinks he smited someone across the face
@@Jd-808 would you like a 5 page essay?
@@romeisfallingagain Is it possible to just say who this person was without an essay? Like your son, daughter, wife?
Is it like when you parents yell at you. They don’t do it because they hate you and are mean. They do it to correct you discipline you. They do it because they love you.
They yell because they can't control themselves. It has nothing to do with love.
Yelling at you isn't love, it's a lack of self control. You can be firm and stand on truth without yelling, being mean, disparaging, or maligning. I completely understand where your comming from though
God Bless you Bishop this was an excellent topic
Read 2nd John very short but key.
Magnificent sermon.
One of, if not the most, important messages for the modern Christian in these utterly broken times
❤❤❤❤❤ thank you, your grace.
Love God with everything and love your neighbors as you love yourself.
Profound words. And encouraging.. ☦💝📿💝☦
Thank you brother!
This is an extremely important message to the world.
Perhaps especially the western world today.
My Dad was a tough guy...I wouldn't describe him as " nice". But he was more like fair, strong, honest, not afraid of anything. He was a protector. He protected the weak. Once his brother ( both were in the 30s) got punched in the mouth. My dad heard about it. Keep in mind my dad was German and Italian and looked like Rambo..( no joke)..aviator glasses long hair..army fatigue pants..a few tattoos. Not a dude you want to play with..anyhow after he heard his brother was punched in the face...( I was a kid) we spent the whole afternoon driving from house to house because my dad was knocking on doors looking for the guy that punched him. I think we found the house but the guy was hiding inside afraid to come out. I think if he did come out, it would've been a bad day for him..trust me. My dad was livid! But as a kid I thought..what's the big deal..forget about it. When I got older..I thought..wow..he really loved his brother and he was personally insulted that someone would do that to his brother who was kind of slow..and a really small guy. Basically he brother was being picked on in his 30s...but my dad was the opposite...again not a dude you'd want to cross. As Christians we get hung up on niceties..I know in God's eyes my dad was doing the right thing. Protecting his family.
Amen brother! Great word.
Beautiful message Father
Being kind involves having a genuine concern for others and acting with compassion and empathy.
Kindness often requires a deeper level of emotional engagement and effort. It involves understanding and addressing the needs and well-being of others, sometimes at a personal cost.
Volunteering to help someone in need, offering sincere emotional support, or performing acts of generosity without expecting anything in return.
Being nice refers to being polite, pleasant, and agreeable in social interactions.
Niceness is more about maintaining social harmony and avoiding conflict. It often focuses on surface-level interactions and pleasing others.
Saying polite words, smiling at people, or giving compliments to make others feel good in a social context.
In summary, kindness is about genuine care and proactive actions to improve others' well-being, often driven by empathy. Niceness is about maintaining pleasant social interactions and being agreeable, often motivated by a desire to be liked or to avoid conflict.
While being nice is ok, I believe the Lord cares more about kindness than anything else because being kind is being honest with someone out of love no matter how it makes them feeel because you deeply care for them , while being nice is just wanting to appease to make them feel better . Jesus was not a nice guy he was always honest with everyone no matter how it would make them feel. Because He came for the salvation of his people , not to make them feel fuzzies and butterfly’s in there stomach
Thank you bishop irenei
Thank you for your messages.
Wonderful insights
Being nice is basically pretending.
Loving is an action.
Thank you
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It's like cutting off an adult child from financial help when they're not looking for work, or an intervention, or similar situation. Tough love. Through such situations, an individual can grow, since experience trumps logic, meaning you can say what you want until you are blue in the face but until the individual learns through experience they will not grow as a person.
Wonderful. Thank you Bishop, Irenei.
Be firm in knowledge, warn all, save who you can
“Do unto others as you would have others do unto you”
Thank you Bishop
May the Lord have mercy on us
Being nice to someone while hating them in the heart is a very hypocritical thing to do and I want to fight that. What can I do to remind myself to have love for others and being kind at the same time?
To the question posed in the title of the video, “Yes!” Kindness and gentleness are two fruits of the Spirit.
❤🙏🏼✨ indeed dear Bishop Vladyka Irenei God bless you,I was having the honour to be anointed by you once what a blessed experience that day ,Glory to God for all things
Good, because asking to be nice to a very specific person is simply not possible. Patient maybe, but not nice.
"Love is at times not a very nice, or pleasant experience. But it is the one that saves." I wish Christians would realize this... love is not the same as niceness, otherwise God would never punish or rebuke his people.
How does this tie in with the saying ‘do not try to take the spec out of your neighbours eye for we have a log in our own’?
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Holiness is LIFE and SANCTIFICATION is Energy always forever Infinitely always◇
I vote to change the word Love to "Sin-Free True Care under God's Laws."
Love and The Rainbow have been hijacked. Reclamation is necessary.
Just say agape, it rolls off the tongue much better.
@@KnoxEmDown I would... but at this time in an ignore-ant apathetic world, agape lacks perspiscuity.... and it's with Love and The Rainbow inside the windowless, beat up old van. Just sayin. There's a whole TikTok generation that needs saving.
Sugar and spice and all things nice😂. Be a nice girl! It is not nice! Nicely put! ....the list is endless and the difference between nice and love so distant. But no one as yet has explained concentrated and or pondered upon the difference between them. Thank you! 🙏🏻❣
Love can be a bitter medicine, too
Niceness is overrated. My mother tried to push rev. Norman Vincent peel’s book on me and tell me you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I wasn’t interested in catching flies. lol. . Why can’t I just be myself?
You can, but it sounds like your mother was concerned about how your abrasive ways are costing you friends.
@@vaska1999 how dare you call me abrasive. You don’t even know me. I was shy all my life. And you have no idea of the tragedy we had in my family when I was young that caused a rift between my mother and me that remained until she died. I was always shy, not abrasive. Secondly who in the hell do you think you are diagnosing me? I guess it takes one to know one, Mr projection.. you aren’t exactly Mr. Congeniality yourself. Now get lost or I’ll show you what abrasive really is.
@@user-ov6bv9cn1oit’s really not that serious, don’t know why ur taking an internet comment this seriously lol 💀
@@isaibustillos7293 it’s an attack on my character by a jerk who doesn’t even know me and he said it to offend. He is projecting on me what he really is. And it didn’t happen to you. if it had you’d be irritated too. But thanks for chiming in.
@@user-ov6bv9cn1o You seem unhinged. You snapped at a simple comment. Your mother might have a point
It is LOVING to ignore the tantrums of children, and adults alike, who think the world revolves around them!
kindness is not always nice, and niceness is often unkind.
Pray for me. I'm good at being nice. I'm not very good at loving.
Thank you father for this video. How can I help my friends who do not accept our Lord Jesus Christ? God bless you all
Love is patient and love is kind. Pray first, then approach someone. If someone is not under obedience to you (or even a Christian for that matter) do not immediately correct, “that would imply you have authority over him and are not just giving advice.” Which may lead to arguments and drive both of you further into the arms of the enemy.
When it comes to yourself, when you are called in some way to profess the truth, with out fear confess it. When it comes to others remember it took Jesus laying hands on the blind man twice for him to see clearly (mark 8).
I love your picture of our family behind you through the prayers of our holy father's Jesus have mercy on us
How true! Thank you! Unfortunately the words 'love and God' have been mutilated in western societies. 'Love means pornography. And 'God' I do not know what..? One is even afraid to pronounce them for the meanings of those words have been totally perverted. Love and blessings to you batyushka in the true meaning!
The etymology of the word "nice" comes from Latin and Old French and meant to be "stupid or foolish".
Telling people they're ill just drives them away. My goal as a Christian is to bring people to God as I have been brought to God and if I partake in pushing people away from the message, God have mercy on me. By justifying not being nice to others, you are justifying your own desire to pass judgement on others which belongs to God alone and is a sin. Your goal as a Christian, and my goal as a Christian is to be so good in contrast to the modern day, that people can't help but look your way. And when they ask how you live with so much peace and joy, you answer with the teachings of Christ. If you are truly good, then people will notice, and when you say it is through Christ, then the seed will be planted. You must avoid being the other prodigal son judging your brother living in shadows as if that gives you the Father's grace. No one likes a judgemental Christian, not even Christ.
i like this answer
No. By not speaking the truth you are not being nice you are being deceptive. You are nicely damning them. True love adheres to the truth without swerving is true love. Father is right. I do not agree at all with you "opinion".
I agree 100%. Christ makes it clear that passing unauthorized judgment on others is at least as bad of a sin as adultery. You also have to look at it from the other person's point of view. Even if you pure-heartedly don't mean to judge, it still very easily can seem as such. There is only one Converter. We can merely plant seeds of conversion with our own example.
@@richcook2007 Focus on living the truth before you focus on speaking it. You do not know others as God knows them. Their sin is not for you to judge. As Christians, our focus is not on judging who is the least of sinners, our focus is on how we gain redemption from sin. Please do not go to people to tell them their sins are dragging them to hell. Show them unwavering kindness, show them worldly matters do not affect you, show them that living like Christ is the only way to truly be at peace in this world. If you live like this, then people who are seeking will be led to you by God, and THEN you will tell them how you live like this. You cannot force someone to seek God. By proselytizing to those who are not interested, you are at best, annoying them, and at worst, driving them from the faith. Know your faith so that you can answer their questions, but also know the other person so that you may know what will get to them. God bless.
@@trollabearcentral2121 if you know the truth and do not speak it you have the greater error. Style counts, but, it is still on you, knowing the truth not to withhold it.
No. We should be strong.
Love in sacrifice of yourself, not niceness.
Many modern saints were not nice all the time but in the end they were right.
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You have to be careful how you be not nice.
i would love to be nice.
But i am convinced that me telling the truth is what is wanted of me by the Lord.
He knows me, and so i will only be nice when whom i am talking to will not benifit from my strictness.
This world is filled with "nice people", so nice that their niceness causes horror for humanity.
So i recon this world needs my harshness rather then one more nice person.
And what’s an example of someone who “will not benefit from your strictness”?
@@Jd-808 someone who ACTUALY responds better to calmness or humor, and allready is aware of the problem or their shortcomings.
Being harsh is not allways the answer, but it IS in the owerwhelming majority of cases.
And that is because the humans of today are babies, gigant babies.
Who has only been handled with soft gloves, by "nice people".
And because of that, they have no idea what accountabillity is.
And the way to rectify that problem is to being the adult in the room and treat them accordingly with strictness and harshness, why?
Because if there is ONE thing people today cannot stand, it is to be put in their place while being treated as a toddler.
And this works gloriously, IF i hold myself to the exact same standard i measure others with.
But if a person allready holds a high standard and knows their shortcomings,
Then calmness and lightness is better, because it acts like an encuragement/reassurance to such a person.
Orthodoxs seem like such hard cases. I went to a Russian Orthodox Church and the priest interrogated me for an hour and the church wasn’t welcoming.
Wish we were more harsh even
Do you know Father Spyridon
Could somebody please identify the painting at 4.17 please
How can I buy father a nice microphone?
Try and convince someone of something they’re not ready to hear
Y'all be real nice now, you hear, so you can get saved, so says Pastor Billy Bob Bubba of the Independent Cow Manure Kicking 1st Baptist Church of Tuscaloosa Alabama... Yeah, Lord... Now pass that there King James Bible so I can do me some preachin
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What if u tell them and they don't listen to you? What should I do in this case?
Ignore them ,pray for them but remove yourself from them
Etymology: nice (adj.)
late 13c., "foolish, ignorant, frivolous, senseless," from Old French nice (12c.) "careless, clumsy; weak; poor, needy; simple, stupid, silly, foolish," from Latin nescius "ignorant, unaware," literally "not-knowing," from ne- "not" (from PIE root *ne- "not") + stem of scire "to know" (see science).
that latin : *nescius* "ignorant, unaware," looks like coming from greek ,
that is : Νο + Σκιά
NO = latin : non, ne from greek: νη: αρνητικό μόριο (''νέ τρώει, νέ πίνει''), ή ( νηπενθής = απενθής, νηνεμία = έλλειψη ανέμου.
Σκιά(Shadow) from Σκότος(Darkness)
The line "I want you to be nice until it's time to not be nice" is spoken by Dalton in the 1989 movie Road House.
You know who also strives to be nice to people above all else? Cults. It's a manipulation tactic, being nice when there's nothing nice about sin is deceitful and manipulative. I'd rather be honest and say the truth (with as much gentleness and reasonableness as is possible, but sometimes when confronted by certain sins there's no nice way to call a spade a spade), rather than never say anything so I can make sure I'm not being "judgemental", because I'm scared that then I might lose my moral high ground. I have none. I'm terrible, but I'm not going to lie and manipulate people by pretending to be something I'm not. Ultimately, I have no power to win people over, it's the Holy Spirit that does that. And I can only help with whatever goodness He endows me with. If you read the old testament, goodness isn't always being kind to people. It also involves truth, which can hurt. Proverbs 27:6
Jesus Christ: ✝️ Mt. 10 it’s not right to throw the living bread to dogs ( Kanaanites, Amorites, Philister, instead of my people israel
'nice' typically means people pleasing out of fear that the tribe will be against them if they cause disagreement. Of course Christ was anything but this, he caused great disagreement to the point of death.
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I disagree that we should show tough love to everyone in this Orthodox way
Love them, sure, pray for them and grace of God will doo much more than men's words can
Not everyone can take it and change themselves over night, even apostles were saying to promote word of God with all kindness..
And not everyone is called to be apostole, or teacher to teach others how to live
Some are Hippocrates and they are even not allowed to
Historically speaking, christians he been terrible people.
So it seems like a good idea.
“to speak evil of no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men.”
Titus 3:2 NKJV
I am not nice at all 😂I am beyond vicious toward even myself let alone others ,God help me,I despise when I sin and I hate when people justify sins
There is a moral maxim "if you are aware of abuse and do nothing about it you are complicit with that abuse." I think most people of good will would agree with this. Don't you? In light of that moral maxim this god of Abraham-- worshiped by the Jews, Christians and Muslims-- is horrendously immoral. This god is said to be all-powerful, all-knowing, omnipresent. So, he literally watches children being abused and tortured-- even by his own priests, pastors, rabbis and imams-- and does absolutely nothing. In light of that why would one expect any better from those who worship such a god? The three Abrahamic religious traditions-- and the "Western Civilization" they represent-- are a fail. They have done nothing but treat each other horribly for centuries. "Nice" isn't even on the menu with them other than as an 86d item.
The childish question you are struggling with was answered million of times in tens of thousands of books written from, roughly, first century AD, to last week, in this century. God is all-powerful, all-knowing and omnipresent. And God literally watches all the evil that men and men alone are doing, because of their free will. God gave us free will and we abuse it to steal, lie, kill and do even more sins, unimaginable sins. We, children of God, are abusing our gift of free will and God can stop us, but then He would be meddling with free will that He gave us. God wants us to love each other and love Him and He wants us to join Him under our own decision, thus we can decide if we will sin or do good. Most people choose to sin, because its easy, convenient and can bring things you like. And what about rabbis and imams? They are not Christian and tying their strings to Christianity is completely wrong. We all say we worship the same God and in sociology and history, our religions can be traced to the same root, but spiritually, Muslims and Jews are different world that cannot be compared to Christianity. Their "morality" includes unimaginable horrendous things as good, while Christian morality does not. Everything you know about morale was shaped by Christian scholars and Word of Jesus Christ. Now, if you want to give me evidence about Christian Church doing bad stuff, do not try to present some protestant Alabama Megachurch, or Utah cults, or Roman-Catholic papists as Christians. You can do better, all the questions you asked were answered long time ago by many priests, monks and philosophers. Just find those answers and continue your struggle until you resolve it.
The Jews and Muslims do not pray to the same God as Orthodox Christians.
God is the originator of morality. You cannot have an objective moral framework without God. Atheistic philosophers of the west have been trying their darnedest for ~500 years and at best they can only argue that morality is subjective. Attempting to argue God is objectively immoral is nonsensical
well said father ☦️