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@wolfthequarrelsome504 he'll likely leave it up just as he has with other erroneous videos regarding Catholicism the past. Though they have been publicly rebutted and his caricatures have been properly contextualized, he's never recanted his errors in regards to the Catholic Faith.
“Bless me, Father, for I have sinned..."
This is the first sentence spoken during the Sacrament of Confession.
It doesn't have to mean that the blesser agrees with the sin, but people need grace to repent.
I read the comments directed to you. I heard a new term (to me at least) called pope-splaining (from explaining). It's slang for the RC clergy trying to explain the Pope's meaning and that it's not what it appears to be (endorsing gay couples living together in sin).
@stevelenores5637 this Priest is commenting on fiducia supplicans. He should (along with other blunders he's made regarding Catholicism) do so from an educated perspective at some point... lest he become the eastern orthodox version of jack chick gospel tracts for the highly uneducated. That's where he's at right now.
@@nicholasgeranios I understood everything you said up to the ellipsis. I had to look up "Jack Chick Gospel Tracts". However he is not the only one commenting (what you call blunders). Many of of your own Bishops aren't very pleased either. The pope might hold firm and double down, but the confusion caused might also inspire him to rethink the wording of fiducia supplicans. If the RC clergy themselves are confused and some at the point of revolt, the pope himself should come out and clarify it. If the pope can't clarify it or for some reason refuses then the seeds of another schism have already been planted within the RC church. IMHO
This was the last straw for me. I’m taking my family to the Orthodox church.
Glory to God ☦
Our Church is officially named Catholic and Apostolic Church. We call it also Orthodox in order to diferenciate ourselves from the Papists ( aka Catholic Church) . Welcome back home brother. To the house that Jesus said that the gates of Hades will fall but his houses No.
First it was pachamama then it was piss Christ now blessing sodomy, I’ve had it, orthodoxy here I come
Orthodox Catholic Church☦️
Former Roman Catholic here, I left a year ago, I am now entering the Orthodox Church, welcome home
A cradle Catholic and Sedevecantist, I converted to 🇷🇺 ☦️ at age 64. Sorry it took so long.
Thank the Lord. I think testifying about your experience may help other Roman Catholics to understand what's making them struggle with their contradictions and find a way out. Something we born-orthodox can't handle softly enough because we can't figure out the internal state of mind Catholics experience when they start understanding the issues within the Roman Church.
Kyrie eleison
welcome back my brother in Christ!
I went to a Sede church, but I never felt quite right there. Something wasn’t correct being there. But I also can’t do this Pope Francis thing anymore. His path for the Church is going towards chaos. I’m going to go to the local Greek Orthodox Church, and see what happens there.
@@Hunter-zp5hdthe pope is not the head of the church, Jesus is. ALL churches have problems in our times. The Catholic Church being the largest church is being attacked and pressured the most by the devil (the freemasons and the lgbtq). We are the militant church here on earth and we have to fight and struggle and PRAY for the CHURCH and the clergy bc they are attacked by Satan more than us, lay people. ✝️✝️✝️
St. Michael the Archangel protect the church. 🙏🙏🙏
You are Orthodox now
I am Catholic, but seriously considering moving to the Orthodox Church.
Please visit an Orthodox church! I did so years ago, became Orthodox, absolutely zero regrets. This is Christianity. This is the one, holy and apostolic church, the Body of Christ. There is one body, one Christ, incarnate and theanthropic.
The Byzantine church is Catholic but eastern and very orthodox- check it out!
@@juliebittinger46 it's not "very Orthodox," it submits to every Roman dogma, is fully submissive to the pope contra Christ, is marginal in membership, has a bastardized "iconographic" tradition, and many sects venerate Nestorius who was a condemned heretic. Funnily enough, many others venerate Orthodox saints condemned by the Roman Catholic church, one of the plentiful ways uniatism undermines Roman Catholic dogma. Sadly, this is an undermining that isn't invincible (unlike others) and will be answered to by Rome... by quashing/"integrating" uniatism in the coming years.
ew
Pope Francis is not infallible. He didn't say it from the chair. God gave the keys only to Saint Peter
More and more the truth becomes more clear. Orthodoxy is the true Church. - From a Catholic.
Christ died for the sinful so that they may become sinless. Anything less is not Christian and is not THE
Church.@patriceagulu8315
Merry Christmas 🎁😊 hugs
Only issue is that there are schism between them too......
@@MarkCox73nowhere is perfect, the Reformers originally Schismed from the RCC as well and look at how many denominations exist now
@MarkCox73 there are always tiny schisms. The chrrent schism is just a bit of political silliness. It'll get sorted out in due time, as it has in the past. This isn't like the Great Schism. All the Orthodox jurisdictions are in communion with eachother by proxy; there are none that are totally cut off from all the others.
It is unfortunate, but it's also not the end of the world.
Lord have mercy.
Lord have mercy.
Lord have mercy.
God please bless the Orthodox Church and empower our leaders to remain true to the faith
Amen
sORRY THE POPE NEVER APPROVED SAME SEX MARRIAGE PLS GO TO FATHER cHRIS ALAR SO YOU MAY BE ENLIGHTENED THE POPE STRICKLY FORBIDS IT BUT IS GIVING BLESSINGS AND PASTORAL GUIDANCE TO PEOPLE WHO NEEDS IT MOST .......
@lindareyes5229 No one is saying the pope approved same-sex marriage. Watch the video again
@@lindareyes5229 Lying RC Apologists for Demonic Pope Francis.
@@lindareyes5229 He's allowing their unions to be blessed "informally".
I’ve been struggling as a Roman Catholic for many years. I’ve always had a problem with Rome. Orthodoxy never even occurred to me but I have been doing a lot of research about it. It seems to me that I’ve been on the path to Orthodox Christianity for years but was always taught that there was no church worthy outside of Rome. Thank God I’ve found this new path to Christ. Please pray for me as I look for an Orthodox Church.
Same here..we were told its the original church, yet they keep changing things. Orthodox 29 years now ❤
Same here. 44 years in the RC church. The papacy has made a circus out of the church.
I went eastern rite catholic as well as latin until I learned the early church sides with the orthodox position. Even the eastern catholic rites theology is almost the same as orthdox. Check out a rocor orthdox.
As a Traditional Roman Catholic I am very thankful for your words.
Brother in Christ, I am afraid that traditional Catholicism offers not safeguard from the damage caused by this scandal, not because of the attacks against tradition by the modernists but because, by nature, the failure of the papal guidance also ruins an essential belief of traditional Catholicism : that the orthodoxy of the Roman faith is guarantied by submission to the Roman Pontiff (Unam Sanctam 1302). In other words, Francis is ruining both the modernist and the traditional narrative. I hope it will help many Roman Catholics seek refuge in the other way many Christians use to remain orthodox, which is the way we, orthodox Christian cherish from the beginnings.
Lord have mercy upon us sinners.
Kyrie eleison.
I'm grateful to be Orthodox.
Thank God I was debating Orthodoxy and Catholicism became an Orthodox Catechumen a couple days ago. This just confirms God is leading me to his true church.
Though Pope Francis does not recognize these unions as marriages, him saying this just started a whirlwind of confusion. Some of their priests think marriage will be next and they’re happy about it. So disturbing.
The Roman’s are trying to create a divide between liturgical blessings and what they now call pastoral blessings. Sadly they will use the Eastern economica as a historical precedent.
Wrong!
The church (Catholic) will not bless homosexual unions.
Next step
I left RCC (SSPX) for the Orthodox Church after the Amazon Synod. Never looked back. Welcome home! ☦️
@@gigig2492interesting. How is it the Amazon synod influenced you out of sspx, when it didn't really affect you?
Catholics everywhere are in mourning. May we be led back to orthodoxy with righteous leaders and faithful followers.
I am so very grateful to be an Orthodox Christian.
The Orthodox Church has accepted divorce and remarriage. They're also blessing sin.
@@Rodrigo-ee3kk Only for justified reason.
@@MAnon-sq5nf what's that justified reason?
@@Rodrigo-ee3kk Let me reiterate: I am so very grateful to be an Orthodox Christian.
@@Rodrigo-ee3kkabuse and adultery.
Our catholic friends need to return to the original Church, the only One Catholic and Apostolic and renounce the many heresies and innovations of catholicism just like I and others did.
Exactly they need to return the way the Catholic Church used to be you have priests that used to be married Bishops that used to be married one Pope came around and changed all this and all he did was attract all these gay people that came into the Seminary and they became priests and nobody knew that they were gays until finally the whole thing blew up you know if God brings judgment to the Vatican Let It Be
Or... We could try to clean things up and unify again, but your choice in church doesn't really matter as long as you truly are following Lord Jesus Christ. God's grace is beyond the judgements of man, including my own.
I don’t want any innovations and heresy. If that means I need to convert to Orthodoxy, then that’s what I need to do. I can’t take this nonsense in the Catholic Church anymore.
I’m gonna put this out there ….. just be born again. Identify as Christian. The church is all true believers. You may find you get the best messages in orthodoxy , Catholicism, Baptist, evangelical, non denominational….. Christ made us different and speaks to us in different ways of worship. Make sure the doctrine is sound and the teaching is biblical then have at er. Ask Christ to guide you. God bless
Thank God for Orthodoxy ☦️
Amen
Yes. I hope Catholics wake up.@@Vdfhjv
"blessings for couples" i didn't write it. they did. @patriceagulu8315
Amém!
@patriceagulu8315the couple is blessed, not the individuals.
I am a Roman Catholic. I have just subscribed to your channel.
As an Orthodox I am praying for our Catholic brother's and sisters. This has to be so confusing for so many.
As a Lutheran observer, I think the saddest aspect of this is the Pope’s complete disregard and in some cases contempt for the confusion and pain that the Catholic faithful are experiencing right now due to his actions and words. Really horrible.
Missouri Synod?
😭😭😭💔💔
How can you be faithful to the Gospel and bless what God calls an abomination?
You can't.
You cannot follow Christ and the catechism, it's not possible.
The Catholic Church does not bless abomination. Please read the recent document carefully. It is very clear.
@@videos_iwonderwhy It's clear the document doesn't bless abomination outright, only indirectly through blessing "all that is true, good, and humanly valid in their lives". In other words, it blesses everything 'good' the couple in question does as a couple that makes up their lives together as a couple outside the abomination.
@videos_iwonderwhy The document is very clear that the blessing is given to the "couple" not the individual.
You know full well where this is heading.
@@st.maximusvstheuglies1309
"Who is choosing your delusion Sir ?"
Thank you Father for defending the Holy Orthodox Catholic Church
If God destroyed the cities of the plain by fire and brimstone for homosexual sin, what will He do to a church that scandalizes the entire world by promoting it? Thank you, Father, for this timely word. ☦️
San Francisco’s been around a long time, and there’s no brimstone or fire - aside from homeless people crowding the streets.
Trenham actually chooses to live in the same State. 🤷🏻♂️
until I see it.. this is all bullshit... grow up fools
@@henryrappleyea1540
No earthly priest can bless what God has cursed.
Homosexuality is a sin. Practicing any unrepented sin can not be blessed. Only hell awaits.
A priest who blesses unrepentant sin is in rebellion against God.God is clear on this matter. No practicing homosexual will enter heaven.
Truth is the medicine that heals and restores the sinner.
Let God be true and every man a liar.
No but what will he do to Pope who initiated this ?
Absolutely nothing.... nothing Will happen to the Pope except die some day like the rest of us... there is no god, no heaven... no nothing... Just crazy ignorant people who have no concept of science...
Hi ! I am from Romania, born and raised Orthodox. I am amazed by Father Josia: so coherent, strong argumentation! never imaginned there are so many Orthodox crestians in US and the western Europe !! The power of Lord is immensly! He may do what seems impossible for us! Read about Saint Mount Athos! the holliest place on hearth, chose. and blessed by Our Virgin Mary! Read about the mirracles that happen there daily!! You will be amazed! Read about Father Paisie Aghioritul! you will be ensured that Father Josia is for the Right side!! for the Truth side!
Mary had children as per the Scripture. How is she still a virgin?
Thank you for this timely message. While I'm not Orthodox, I really appreciate the fact that our brothers in your church have thought this through and squared this with the Bible. In no way should sinful behavior be blessed. Peace and grace to you and your people.
@@sA-ny2jl So you actually think people who are in a relationship and not married have never been blessed by an orthodox priest? ignorance is bliss.
The behavior is not being blessed, only the sinner like you and me!
@@Vdfhjvyes, Roman "Catholics" can now join the real catholic Church unless they are truly blind to the fact that their "Church" is now heading towards becoming a homosexual affirming, drag queen hosting shitshow
@patriceagulu8315 they are being blessed as a "couple" which is what the document says. Not as individuals.
Could you also share the list of forbidden marriages in the Orthodox Church? Examples such as cousins, godparents with their godchildren etc. it would be very informative.
The Orthodox faith is standing firm and unchanged throughout the centuries...
Not true. The Orthodox have changed their views on divorce and remarriage. Also changed their view on contraception.
@@MikeM-cz5lnMore of the same ignorant comments of catholics that have no clue about church history.
Divorce was in the canons of saint Basil, a.k.a. when the church was one, a.k.a. Rome was in the church when divorce was allowed in certain circumstances. Nothing has changed for orthodoxy. Only Rome has changed it and called it "annulments".
Contraception is not blessed by the orthodox church. Some priests may give a momentary pastoral natural planning blessing. But you are wrong. Don't slander and be careful for every word you say God will judge!
Amen. ☦️ ❤️
@@MikeM-cz5ln There is no divorce in orthodox church. Our Lord defended the sanctity of marriage, justifying divorce only on the grounds of unchastity. The marriage can be declared invalid or having lost its canonical power under some circumstances. Permitting remarriage is an act of compassion of the Church towards sinful man. In Russian Orthodox Church it is only allowed non abortive contraception, if there is needing for that.
what?
Ethiopian Orthodox here! When I heard that on the news, I was really sad.
What’s most baffling about this issue is that 98% of those who are sexually broken reject the church and their teachings. Continue to pray for the broken.
Catholic here and I really really appreciate your commentary. It is the most well formed response Ive heard from anyone. Thank You.
This is not the most well informed response, he hasn’t even read the document!!! Or else he would not be saying these things.
If you are a Catholic, you need to read the document. Then you would see that he is tragically inncorret on his commentary. The document explicitly forbids blessing a sinful union and calls for repentance for such acts.
If there were any truth to it. Unfortunately, there is not. As a Catholic myself, I love Fr. Josiah, but this particular video was a travesty.
@@joshyman91297 The issue is not what kind of mental gymnastics the papacy has to perform in order to accommodate with the words views. The issue is that Rome is so deeply involved into the worlds affairs that the Vatican feels the need to accommodate with the worlds view. And that's not unexpected when there is a pontifical state and a pontifical monarch. As Jesus said : "but when thou (Peter) shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not." (St John 21:18)
Lord have mercy upon us sinners.
Thank you so much for this. As a Roman Catholic, when I first heard of the Pope ‘s sanctioning of homosexual relationships, I was sick to my stomach, and had to lie down to keep from fainting. This is appalling, the RC church has now obliged the Lord to judge it. Lord, please guide the Christians in the RC church in what to do about this! Lord, please help us, amen...
Unfortunately, You are sick to your stomach for no reason. The document does not approve the blessing homosexual unions. Please take the time to read it. 🙏🏼
The document expressly approves of the blessing of same sex COUPLES. As with most of Francis’s proclamations, it is confusing at best. Perhaps purposefully so.
Leave the Catholic Church.
@@chiefstanfordMore copium. Just like pachamama, catholics coped and tried to say this is the virgin Mary and not a pagan goddess.
Even if your pope sacrificed a child on st Peter square, you'd find excuses. Sad.
No, the document does not validate or legitimize same-sex couples or unions. Here is a summary of the key points from the document regarding same-sex couples and blessings:
Church teaching on marriage remains firm. The document states: "This conviction is grounded in the perennial Catholic doctrine of marriage; it is only in this context that sexual relations find their natural, proper, and fully human meaning. The Church’s doctrine on this point remains firm." (Paragraph 5)
The Church cannot impart sacramental blessings on same-sex unions. The document affirms: "the Church does not have the power to impart blessings on unions of persons of the same sex. Such is also the meaning of the Responsum of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith." (Paragraph 5)
Possibility of non-ritual blessings to invite God's grace. The document discusses: "the possibility of blessings for couples in irregular situations and for couples of the same sex, the form of which should not be fixed ritually by ecclesial authorities to avoid producing confusion with the blessing proper to the Sacrament of Marriage." (Paragraph 31)
These would be spontaneous, not connected to civil unions: "Precisely to avoid any form of confusion or scandal...this blessing should never be imparted in concurrence with the ceremonies of a civil union, and not even in connection with them. Nor can it be performed with any clothing, gestures, or words that are proper to a wedding." (Paragraph 39)
Not intended to legitimize: "Indeed, such a ritualization would constitute a serious impoverishment because it would subject a gesture of great value in popular piety to excessive control, depriving ministers of freedom and spontaneity in their pastoral accompaniment of people’s lives." (Paragraph 36)
So in summary, the document upholds traditional marriage teaching while discussing potential pastoral care approaches involving non-ritualized blessings, with the intention not to legitimize same-sex relationships but to spiritually support couples seeking God's grace.
I am a strong presbyterian but went to my first russian Orthodox church Sunday. I love it so will be going on Sat and Sunday now after
Thank you for your commentary. I am a traditional Catholic and have watched the steady slide into Apostacy. Rome has lost the faith. It is time for the Faithful to stand up. Hopefully many Bishops.
We are indeed watching the unfolding of the very last phase of the end times now, as foretold in Revelation and also by the visions at La Salette and Fatima,
Not sure how you can consider yourself a "Traditional Catholic" while dissenting from the magisterium, do you see the irony?
Secondly, have you taken the time to actually read the documents, declarations, and dubia at hand? It would not seem so.
It is an American pope. Why?
What he is saying about the pope is inaccurate. The pope never gave permission to bless same sex unions, only the individuals so as to help them to repent and change their lives. Look at what Michael Lofton from Reason and Theology put out on his channel about this. He explains it very well and it will put you at ease. Also, read the document for yourself. The media always lies about us, so why trust them now? The Catholic Church is the one and only church founded by Jesus Christ. He will not allow it to be dragged into apostasy.
@@caseycardenas1668Vatican 1 is an innovation to respond to Islamic protestant cooperation in western Europe. As it was the only thing that stood up to the Muslim horde.
Thr pope was and infallible. So rebelling against that is in fact making him a traditionalist. It's tome we as a church seriously reconsider why we say the pope is infallible of that didnt exist until Vatican 1.
Merry Christmas, brothers and sisters who celebrate it today, on January 7th.
Thank you Father for addressing such a sad decisions of the Roman Catholic Church 😪
Amen 🙏
He hasn't read the reply to the dubia raised nor it's most recent further clarification.
It is completely clear that the Catholic church will NOT bless homosexual unions.
The father is using media reports only and spreading misinformation.
Have you read the document?? press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/it/bollettino/pubblico/2023/12/18/0901/01963.html#en
Not the church. But this pope is the antichrist. The devil has to destroy the church to regin fully.
This is the false Church. Dont leave the Church, dont leave the boat because the captain is drunk. Hold on tight
As always, thank you Father for your edifying teachings. Christ is born, glorify Him.
He's misleading you.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 Facts.
Trenham only leads people to His Church, which happens to provide His paychecks.
As a Catholic who finds my refuge in the Traditional Latin community, I could not agree more. Fr. Trenham is a gift.
Edit: Thanks for all the prayers and encouragement from my Orthodox brethren. Know I have a deep love for the traditions and Saints of the East. Death to the World.
What will you do when Pope Francis bans the TLM outright? Is he your Pontiff or not? Is the Catholic Church infallible or not? I was once in your situation, before I saw the light. Come to Orthodoxy. We need more people like you.
That is not a refuge, it is broken from Christ for 1000 years, and I assume you submit to Antipope Francis anyway. Please visit an Orthodox church!
When are you going to become a catechumen?
It's time to come home.
I pray you will come home, as I have!
Thank you Father for speaking out against this evil. God Bless you. Please keep your Catholic brothers in your prayers.
We appreciate your prayers but would also appreciate if you would read the document for yourself!!!
@@sebjuliussen9378 we all did. Stop excusing heresy
o now the pope is the Evil
@@sebjuliussen9378 the only way to interpret the document as orthodoxy, is to do it from a position of wanton ignorance. One need only look to Father James Martin to understand what the document acknowledges, priests will be blessing SS “COUPLES” and COUPLES in “irregular situations”. COUPLES, not individuals. And do say that individuals make up a couple. They are not coming as individuals seeking help with a sinful lifestyle that they are trying to get out of. They are coming in as a couple, the nature of their coupling is intrinsically sinful. Stop lying to yourself and others, it’s counterproductive to those Catholics that are suffering with this latest outrage and it does nothing to bring non Catholics into the fold, or preventing Catholics from leaving! Better to tell the truth, however terrible it may be, so that the faithful may gird their loins, so to speak, and ready themselves for the fight that lay ahead.
@@sebjuliussen9378I saw martin read it out and he explained it well, this pope is evil simple as that.
I switched to the Orthodox Church.
Church hopper, when going gets tough the tough plant thier feet ,
@@changedlife1904Those looking for Truth leave when they realize the Truth is not there.
@@changedlife1904 hurling insults is sinful. Can you hear yourself? The Church is not a social club. I go there to worship God. The Orthodox Church offers REVERANT worship, not pop songs and talk about football. If I wanted pop songs and football, I would buy tickets. There is too much controversy in the Roman Catholic Church, and Bergoglio is a Communist. He has turned the house of God into a marketplace, and his flock is for sale to thehighest bidder. That's a real problem, especially in the age of big data.
@@changedlife1904 There is only one true Church. It's worthy and wise to abandon the fake one.
@@steveturners1258 wow
God bless you Father Trenham and God bless the Holy Orthodox church. May that church never budge an inch.
We Really Must Pray for that - as really not sure what some Orthodox leaders may say...let's hope they will not succumb to political pressures...
@patriceagulu8315 Sorry - read what?? I am not slandering anyone or anything....all i said is that i just hope the Orthodox leaders will not follow suit....(given all that talk /effort of apparently "uniting" the two Churches...)....that's all i said; I did not understand your comment....
@patriceagulu8315 Certainly i do not agree - i agree with father Josiah - i thought that was obvious from my messages.
@patriceagulu8315 The way to be saved is through repentance, prayer and fasting - this is very clear in the Gospel. You do not "save" people through some new "politcally-correct" declarations on the pretext that you want to save some - whilst clearly going against the Gospel itself...sorry - but this is So Anti-Christ. I will stop here - as you obviously do not see the difference and we totally disagree.
@patriceagulu8315 Look - we leave it at that - our Loving, and Patient God has shown us the way. If people want to make their own rules, then that's up to them. But our Loving God has shown us the Way and has been very clear what He wants and expects from us. The rest is just confusion. I will not discuss this any further, as there is no point. Wishing you a Happy Christmas.
This man is closer to the kingdom of god than the Catholic pope ✅☮️✝️🙏
As a Catholic, I beg for your prayers for God’s guidance for our future.
Please stop watching medias read what the document is saying, how can it come that the document is misread just in USA ? Here in France their is not this kind of miscomprehension. The pope haven't done something wrong instead of crying and saying that the Church is falling away, keep praying and renewing your confidence in the Church, by praying for the Bishop of Rome and his intentions, ... this document have been realised to answer german Bishops and Belgium bishops who tried to make a liturgical benediction for same sex couples. This document is just saying you can bless a person in sin but not his sin. But those benediction have to be out of every liturgical praying, and even the priest have to be without every liturgical costumes. It add that it have to be out of the church, and clearly given to strengthen People to seek God will in their lifes, or protection of their health, familly and so on. So yes as the priest bless you and me even we are sinners when we ask, and the priest bless us to ask God His strength for us. It's the same for all sinners.
@@romain3935Why would you need a new change if it's just a blessing for individual sinners? 😂 do you not see the absolute blindness you have?
This is specifically for couple living in an active lgbtq lifestyle asking for their union to be blessed.
@@icxcnika2037 absolutly no, the document didn't say that, please have checked it multiple time, by the way this document help to push back all such weird things german, belgium bishops tried to do by giving the benediction I even don't know of what to the same sex couples, this document is puting the line and the direction of what the Church can do. And as everyone know, 2 years ago, speaking about same sex union the pope have already said that the Church can't bless sin. In the document it's even remembered what are the conditions it take to receive the sacrement of matrimony. It's just very funny because here in France for example there's not this kind reaction because we get what the Church said here. This document push back all german, belgium bishops agenda in favor of benediction of same sex union, because it's saying that People have to be bless out of the churches, without any liturgical form or costume,... what you think is a opening for all lgbt... is actually a door close. Church will never as you and I know celebrate a sin. So please stop spreading fake news like your medias in USA. We are brother so May God bless you.
As an orthodox my prayer is that you become orthodox and not Roman Catholic. That’s the solution
@@icxcnika2037because the German bishops were blessing homosexuals in an official capacity and publicly so this document correctly instructed them to stop doing that, the Church can and always has blessed sinner but the document needed to amend the wicked practice of liturgical blessings for SS people.
Thank you father for your courage. Blessing is meant for those who are struggling to overcome their sins, but not for those who believe they are happy living in their sinful ways. This is nothing but hypocrisy! A gradual process of implementing the Jesuits-turned academics' agenda. There is a hook inside the worm. Blessing is not a magic in the hands of priests and bishops, but it is by the Holy Spirit.
Thank you Father for your words. I am RC and am despaired that this man would allow this. One of his many many heresies. I can not in good conscience call this my church. It is not how I was raised, not how my parents and ancestors were raised. The more truth I learn, the more I realize I am more Orthodox in my thinking and in my heart. The Roman Church desperately needs prayer, her people need prayer.
I bet you didn't read the document.
@@FrJohnBrownSJquit popesplaining communist nobody cares
Return to orthodoxy. The church of pederasty and communism must be rebuked at every turn
read enough. you can NOT give the devil one tiny mico inch of space. YOU CAN NOT bestow a blessing on an openly practiced sin. Jesus at with the sinners, but he didn't converse with the sin. Forgiveness is different than a blessing. he told the woman caught in adultery, that I don't condemn you , no go sin no more. He didn't give her His blessing.
@@FrJohnBrownSJ
@@FrJohnBrownSJ Trust in the mainstream media. They have our best interests at heart and always report accurately and never with any agenda. Only experts should read documents and it is prudent for laypeople to promptly comment on mainstream media reporting without reading the documents or seeking out a balanced opinion.
How sobering our Holy Orthodox faith is. Glory to God for ALL things.
IC XC NIKA ☦️
God bless you for standing up for God’s Word!
According to whom? Theses are all opinions.
@@ProfessorDIYbro what are you on about😂 no it’s not
@@Tornadospeed10 Again that is based on what? And I choose to ignore your tone.
@@ProfessorDIY based on the entire history of the church lol. It’s really simple when you actually study it instead of throwing around baseless claims.
@@Tornadospeed10 I do not care about the history of any church, only the Bible is important you are confusing church doctrine with Biblical truth
As a protestant. You sir are 💯 on point. I wish more leaders in the protestant stream would speak as boldly.
They won't. Time for you to come over to Orthodoxy, rather than waiting for your Protestant leaders to stand up
Many are. Dr. James White and Pastor Jeff Durbin is fighting back against the homosexual agenda.
Last time I checked most Protestant chapels are fully onboard the LGBTQ+ train.
@@Hope_Boat it’s still not the majority.
@@fernandocuriel124 Majority of what? Do you vote for you dogma?
Άξιος...Άξιος...Άξιος.
God blesa and protect you Fr. Josiah.
Pope Francis was the final straw for me i have taken my fiance and our child to the orthodox church we are catechumen now
Welcome home !
@@voievod9260 thank you very much it has been a great experience so far I love my priest I love my parish and I really feel closer to God then I ever have in my life
May God richly bless you and your family!
Glory to God! 🙏🏻 ☦️
God bless you family
I Chose to be Catholic in 1980 at age 33. I was basically a new Christian. I met Jesus in a one time visit to a Pentacostal church. I got zapped by the HS. I might have gone Orthodox but there was no church in my area to check out. I thinking switching now would be impious. It seems unstable to me. This Pope is showing me just how weak we are in this world of sin and wickedness. I shall continue to pray for the church. My God is stronger now than ever before. Holy Mary Mother of God pray for us during this plague of perversion. Maranatha.
As Orthodox, I greatly empathize with your sentiments. Even as far back as 1980, it was apparently all too easy to get "misdirected" in one's spiritual journey. I agree with you, it would have been far easier had you found an Orthodox church there and then, but perhaps it would help if you considered making a proper query in to Church history? If I could suggest anything, the starting point for all people like yourself earnestly seeking Christ should be the following question: Can the Church, the Body of Christ Himself as the Godhead, ever be divided? Or: If the unity of the Church has already been secured in eternity, then how can it ever be possible for her to be divided in this temporal world?
I've been in the same shoes for ages battling with staying "loyal" and intrusive thoughts of"what if I'm wrong, what if there's more". I strongly believe reading about life of orthodox saints would help on that. If nothing else you'll get information about how they prayed and what they made them stay strong and their experience of God. I trust God will help you pick up the right ones for you.
I’ll be joining the Orthodox Church
The Orthodox Church will remain true the Lord’s Gospel! It will not yield to the pressures of this fallen world….Amen! Blessed be the name of the Lord henceforth and forever more. ☦️
I'm so glad I came home to the orthodox church.
Thank you for that clear and concise message. The language out of Rome is the confusion that comes from the put of hell. God's heart must be broken over this. We all must be strong and resist the apostacy.
If I were an American I would buy all the audio materials produced by father Josiah. The price is too low for America. But it is too high for the Ukraine which has become one of the poorest countries in the world since 2022. Nonetheless, I have bought some of them. And I plan to buy them all with the lapse of time.
You are lucky Christians because you have the opportunity to listen to such wonderful lectures by father Josiah. This is a gift from God for you.
I converted from atheism to Roman Catholicism almost 14 years ago. I've been considering becoming Orthodox off-and-on for a few years, more earnestly in the last year or so, but seeing the Papacy finally, openly bless sodomy while issuing an Orwellian document telling us to deny our eyes is the last straw for me. The Orthodox Parish nearest me has a Priest who converted from Roman Catholicism himself, and I'm going to reach out to see about joining the Orthodox Catechumenate.
The Papacy has claimed it isn't blasphemous or sinful in any way for a Priest or Deacon to invoke the Power of the Holy Cross and the Holy Trinity over two men or women living in a sin which its own catechism says cries to heaven for vengeance, and that this may even be good or helpful to do. Claims that a simple permission doesn't meet the standard for an infallible teaching since it doesn't mandate or 'impose definitively' that all Priests offer this are hollow. So are claims that a bunch of disclaimers stop it from being the grotesque blasphemy that it clearly, visually and audibly, is to invoke God's blessings over such a couple, and that these disclaimers instead make it 'technically orthodox if maybe imprudent'. Papal infallibility on faith and morals that doesn't protect the church from the Pope permitting blasphemy and blessing grotesque immorality throughout the entire church isn't infallibility at all.
My obstinance, pride, and affection for many of the external forms of the Roman Catholic church caused this to take far longer than it should have, but the scales are at last falling from my eyes. Please pray for me friends as I pursue entering the Orthodox Church.
There's no way you read the document.
As @FrJohnBrownSJ said, please read the document.
@@FrJohnBrownSJblessing anything from the authority of the church will give the wrong impression. Homosexuals think this is love, and Jesus taught it, therefore they cannot be bad. Think of the collateral.
@@AthanaSusshow me where the pope denounced communism and pederasty I’ll wait
lol, I did read the document. No amount of insisting that only the persons and the non-sinful parts of their relationship are being blessed is able to change what is obviously, visually and audibly, taking place when two men or two women holding hands have a Priest make the Sign of the Cross over them, saying "N. and N., may almighty God bless you, the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit." That's why I called the document Orwellian; it demands that I deny the evidence of my eyes and ears.
Thanks Be To God!
Holy Father, thank you for keeping and standing in the “Truth” which is the Risen Lord Jesus Christ! Not in criticism or condemnation, but in enlightening those who have been deceived by the father of lies and darkness. We have repentance as our Allie to help us. But under no circumstance in God’s universe can sin be accepted or blessed.
“The Truth Shall Set You Free….” 😘
Thanks God for My Orthodoxy ☦️
Hi Father. thank you for this video. it feels like a fresh air to me. the Church is very clear on things like this and that should've been the case within the Roman Catholic Church.
I will be received into the Roman Catholic Church in a few days by chrismation because my Protestant baptism is valid. I have same sex attraction and I live in a muslim majority country where the nearest canonical Eastern Orthodox church is 800km from my house. I am three years into my conversion from my sinful life. I fall sometimes, but with God's help I am trying hard.
Apostolic Church gives me a great hope that a sinner like me can at least live in chastity just like God wanted, with all the pastoral care and the grace of God that is delivered through the Sacraments of His Church, to work on my salvation with fear and tremble, to present to God my body as a living sacrifice that is holy and pleasing to God. I have that spirit in me, I really want to do that my whole life. that is why I converted from Protestantism
but then the Catholic clergy is constantly insulting me in my conversion. Jimmy Martin got the support by the Pope, the Flemish and German bishops with Synodal Weg and their blessings of gay couples in churches months ago, and now Cardinal Tucho with approval by the Pope released that recent document. I am scandalized and confused, and also personally insulted. it is as if my conversion is for nothing
I thank you for this video. you gave me clear statements of what is a blessing, the priestly blessings and its nature according to Scripture, and why priests can not bless same sex couples, however they twist the language
I am using my inactive youtube account to comment this but I'm choosing St. Athanasius of Alexandria as my patron saint. Please kindly pray for me, Father. and I will pray for you also. Thank you very much. I love your work in Patristic Nectar
God bless you. We pray for you and hope that you can find your way towards Christ. Given your circumstances, I think the best path is in the Catholic Church. If I may ask, which rite is your local parish?
@@stephenlight647 thank you 🙏🏻 I really appreciate it. Catholicism in my whole country is Latin rite, where TLM is publicly celebrated only twice a year in a school chapel in my diocese. the Traditional Catholics are mostly in the capital, where the Orthodox churches are (EP and MP jurisdictions)
@@user-ru5li2wt3pPlease speak to an orthodox priest about this before you go through chrismation. Perhaps they can find a way to help you come to orthodoxy, the only church where true healing can happen. ❤ May God bless your path and your chastity efforts ❤❤
I understand and have a similar burden. Everyone has passions & temptations & confusions. God has given you what you need step by step, day by day. Be faithful in prayer, in holiness, in confidence. 🙏☦️
I pray for you.
IC XC
NI KA
Please pray for us Catholics 🙏
Leave the Catholic Church, it’s going to get worst. The Vatican has been infiltrated long ago by non Christians and will change the Church from within little by little till a global Gnostic religion becomes the dominant force at the end of the day (the Last Days.)
Will you consider the arguments for Orthodoxy against roman catholicism?
@@Darncoolcreeper No, thank you. The problem is that there is no Orthodox Church in my city and the Current Pope is doing evil. If my church gets woke, I will have to abandon it. I'm not accepting this evil, no way.
I pray God to strengthen all Roman Catholics against their pride and bring them back to orthodoxy.
Lord have mercy upon us sinners.
IC XC
NI KA
Great Video! This is one of the reasons that led me to abandon the roman catholic church and finally embrace The True Christian Orthodox Faith!
Father Trenham is correct 💯 🌹✝️🌹
For all the Roman Catholics seeing this, abandon your pride, return to the unchanged Orthodox Christian Faith. If in 70 years the Roman Church is completely different, what will be of it in a 100 years, with the way things are going? You shall know a tree by its fruits.
70 years?!? it won't take that long. RCC is constantly changing and constantly innovating. So unstable.
This will bring more people to the Orthodox Church thats for sure
Thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you!
Praise God!
Thanks for clarity.
Solid. CZcams Gold.
And I was teaching my Muslim partner about Christianity , and the Catholic church . Hoping and praying to convert him in time to know the COMPLETE truth of Jesus Christ. Now I can’t even look him in the eyes. He will never understand this hypocrisy. 😢😢
We welcome both of you to our holy Orthodox faith, whenever you are ready..
Once I heard these words from a priest's mouth: "The servant of Christ may fall. Christ Himself never falls."
I am convinced that the Pontiff's ambiguous messages serve as a strategy to gauge societal opinion. This political maneuver helps to clearly identify those who support him and those who oppose him. If he garners sufficient support, he progresses with his agenda; conversely, if opposition is strong, he often claims to be misunderstood. This tactic effectively measures contemporary issues while maintaining his popularity within the church.
Thank you Father.
Thank you.
Very well said! Thank you. God bless you. ❤️
Well said!!! Precisely 💯
God bless you, father.
Your words are like music to my ears. 😍
God be with and bless Father Trenham!
Let’s pray for Christendom and the true one Church of Christ ❤️☦️☝️
Thank you Father for this message.
Thank you for your honesty Father. 💜☦️
Amen bless you 🙏 well said finally someone with sense crazy twisted sick world 😮
Stay strong in faith, Greetings from Georgia
God bless you Fr. Josiah!
Thank you for the video, well said.
Thank you for the Orthodox Church and Fr. Trenham's consoling explanation.
Amen you said it well
Most truest word, thank you)
Thank you, Father. This is helpful!
❤️☦️🙏GOD HELP US ☦️🙏❤️
We are Catholics we are born to suffer and carry our cross. Praise to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who died on the cross for our sins. Pray for Pope Francis and Holy Mother Church in these days, in this age.
Wrong channel ,wrong comment
“’Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues." Rev 18:4
God bless you father!
Amen 🙏 the best response many blessings to you
What a beautiful, bold word!! Thank you, Fr Josiah! Thank you 🙏🏻❤️☦️
God bless you, Fr. Josiah. Pray for US, Catholics.
Thank you father
The examples at the end really hit home. Thank you father!
Well-said Fr., you are God's prophet in these trying times of the Catholic church...please pray for the Catholic church & the pope.
Roman catholic ,not just catholic
thank you Father, I was at first alarmed when I heard what the Pope had said but I felt it being pushed away by a feeling of wanting to think possibly there is a misunderstanding. I do not want to think that this could be the truth so I found what ever it is working in me to try and represent it to myself differently.....but the clarity you gave about the harm this does to those blessed this way, and the confusion that results in more harm to others woke me up again, thank you
Well said! Amen! 🙏
This is what we need! TY Father☦️🙏🏼☦️
You need *more* homophobic men in their 50’s that fake an Arab accent and repeat ancient ignorance to fit in with their superiors?
There’s plenty.
The Muslim World is filled with them.
Proud Orthodox!! Thank you Father Nectar!!!🙏🏻
Not proud ! Grateful
That's not his name.
Yes, proud indeed. It is this pride that divides people and causes factions to rise up in protest. This pride allows you to hate others because you can’t face whatever challenges are present in your own life. Regardless what Father says here, the Gospel does not condone your hatred anymore than what you imagine others’ sins to be. Live in repentance and worry about how you will bless the world as a follower of Christ.
Amen, Father, amen. Thank you for your guidance. May God bless you.
Thank you for speaking truth in these troubled times.
I beleive and always did it, that at the end the only very creal in Truth and full of understanding God also His mercy will be the Eastern Orthodox Church. I was raised up in the Catholic Church, because I am originally from Poland, and later went through a different Evangelical charismatic churches, and now for years I am impressed of the depth and strength of the Eastern Church, even though I am not a memebr of it.