This was one of the few albums worthy enough for me to buy when I was a teenager. I had to travel to find it. They didn't sell it in Orange County. I found it in Hollywood. Such deep feelings from youth come up when I hear these tunes and tones.
lucky so and so ,I've been looking for this record for sooooooo long ,ever since I lost my boot leg home recorded cassette during a move and have never come across a copy of it ever since, and yeah I still have and play cassettes , loads of great bands/songs ,that I refuse to replace on C.D or some form of digital player/collection
Luke Rendle played on Westworld an all previous singles - - - - Then IMO the album was ruined by choice of songs an producer!!!! .The amount of great tracks left off the Album Westworld - instead of stuff like "Freaks!! - The Klan! - The New Trail of Tears" ! . ... There was tracks like tracks like " Propaganda" - "Incinerator" - Nero - - It's My Own Invention - Rebel Without A Brain ( could have been redone or mixed to suit album ) . . ... . . . .This could have been such a classic album !!!! which was what we where all waiting on at the the time . . .. . . . Missed opportunity . Play Klan Freak an The New Trail of Tears an honestly say thats the Theatre of hate . . . . . we had,
Late night summer of 1986 I had returned to my parents suburban bungalow from a job flipping burgers. I was trying to save enough for a school trip to London, the epicentre of cool, the city of my dreams. Turn on CKLN the best college radio station in Toronto and this song began. I immediately pressed record on my tape deck, the opening riffs had transfixed me. Years of re-listening followed. I had almost forgotten the song until I found it on iTunes by happenstance.
I read on billy duffy's website that there was a running joke that Theatre of Hate and Southern death Cult were known as the Cowboys and Indians by their fans @@newgraham
The yellow sun was setting in tombstone The citizens were gone but not to their homes By a freak a coin in the piano made it play But only the wind and the dust heard it say Do you believe in the Westworld? Do you believe in the Westworld? From the south on a wind in walked a cowboy The saloon was dry but his guns were well oiled Somehow he remembered when he kissed his wife And when he said goodbye But that was before the circus with the bear arrived Oh the bear it roared as the gun was fired Then the cowboy turned the gun on himself as he sang "No one's alive" Do you believe in the Westworld? Do you believe in the Westworld?
First saw TOH early 80's amongst a plethora of punk bands at the Cardiff Top Rank. I remember Kirk Brandon swigging from a carton of orange juice in between songs and thinking, "Is this punk?" Needless to say, I enjoyed their set anyway!
It's As If Kirk Brandon And Yul Brynner Had Somehow Formed A Kind Of " Surreal Cultural Pact " !! Both This Single From The Eighties And The Self Titled Film From The Seventies Are " Indispensable Cult Classics " !!! In My View From Adrian Browne 1965
Excellent Excellent album. When I was London all of Kings Road could only talk of TOH. I bought all the albums when I came home. It still is strong. Powerful stuff. Sorry, the music doesn't compare what on in the MS scene. It's like good whiskey compared to... you get the picture.
Speelden ze daar ook ? Zag ze in de Stokvishal. Prima optreden.Heb veel goede bands in De Gigant gezien, btw. Uit mn hoofd: David Thomas (Pere Ubu), Tuxedomoon, Modettes, Half Japanese, This Heat. Fantastische programmering dus daar...
@monsterz01 - '82 or '83 I think. There's a wikipedia article on both the band and the album, so you could check that if you want to be absolutely certain.
@person3enpassant All for a good reason and a good cause sometimes ,,,,anger .blows up like a dynamite ,,for many reasons ,,man i still love this track ,,wish i could get my collage buddies together and march down ,,Oxford street for our rights ..i was a member of the CND back in the days ,,NO WARS NO NUCLEAR SHIT
Saw them in Tiffany's in Glasgow many years ago still love Westworld to the day.Backing them up were southern death cult who became the cult but I preferred theatre of hate and spear of destiny. Stay Free
@person3enpassant This is one of those songs that gets your blood boiling for justice and makes you see ,,how we have been had ,,if every one joined ,,we can easily gain our humanity rights back ,,and not let no Queen nor King or any false Government ,deprive us from ,,the wealth ..we should have
a track so fucking good it takes the piss. seen rusty dj a few times , seems to have got a bit' paul oakenfold'. no need for micky mills with this track my friends... if there's music we can use it. for those in the know i salute you.
This sounds like the original recording I remember playing in 1982.. may have been remastered, crystal clear here. (Saw Theatre of Hate live last night - band is still great almost 4 decades later..)
The yellow sun was setting in tombstone The citizen ...... By a freak a coin in the piano made it play But only the wind and the dust heard it say Do you believe in the Westworld? Do you believe in the Westworld? From the south on a wind in walked a cowboy The saloon was dry but his guns were well oiled Somehow he remembered when he kissed his wife And when he said goodbye But that was before the circus with the bear arrived Oh the bear it roared as the gun was fired Then the cowboy turned the gun on himself as he sang "No-ones alive" Do you believe in the Westworld? Do you believe in the Westworld?
shuffle shuffle in de Poolcrkel in Steenwijk of in de BUze......15 jaar oud long time ago hahahahaha......zelfs mijn moederke vond deze track leuk....stonden saam te swingen in de kitchen hahahaha de afwas te doen hehehehehe
I have often wondered if this song was in any linked to the film Westworld?! I have tried to Google the songs meaning but the lyrical meaning has almost been non existent or a very small cliff note in an almost equally small commentary on the album as a whole.
I think Kirk has drawn elements from the film but it's more a rant against capitalism and injustice in modern society...Oh my god!... I sound like a cock.. Theatre of Hate and Spear of Destiny are truely fantastic.. New album out soon....
I remember an interview with Smash Hits magazine, which will be at least 35 years ago now. Kirk Brandon talked about the song, a couple of points of which for some reason, stuck with me to this day. The 'Westworld' of the title, is 'America', but as it is seen through the eyes of the rest of the world. The cowboy in the song was US President Reagan, and the bear mentioned is Russia. The 'yellow sun setting in Tombstone', is American manufacturing being sent abroad (specifically China and Japan were named by Kirk). 'Do you believe in the Westworld' equated to 'Do you believe in (the myth of) America.' Amazing how things like that stay with you all this time :)
I feel so proud being the nephew of the sax player :3
Really
Remember this way way back...
2019 and they still put on a hell of a show
Unbelievable playing!
JEFF, you alive? Ostap asked you a question 2 yrs ago
This was one of the few albums worthy enough for me to buy when I was a teenager. I had to travel to find it. They didn't sell it in Orange County. I found it in Hollywood. Such deep feelings from youth come up when I hear these tunes and tones.
This really is a classic album. Every track is good, don't have to skip through any duds when you listen to this.
I buy this vinyl yesterday on the Record Store Day here in Mexico.
Great LP!!!
lucky so and so ,I've been looking for this record for sooooooo long ,ever since I lost my boot leg home recorded cassette during a move and have never come across a copy of it ever since, and yeah I still have and play cassettes , loads of great bands/songs ,that I refuse to replace on C.D or some form of digital player/collection
@@skywayminicabs6292 Try Discogs, easy to find a copy there.
De verdad? En qué parte exactamente lo encontraste?
Ojalá encuentre uno para mí la próxima vez que vaya a la CDMX
@@skywayminicabs6292 I have one of these ! if you are still looking for it I am more than happy to send it to you ! For free of course :)
This band has some of the best drumming I have ever heard.
Luke Rendle played on Westworld an all previous singles - - - - Then IMO the album was ruined by choice of songs an producer!!!! .The amount of great tracks left off the Album Westworld - instead of stuff like "Freaks!! - The Klan! - The New Trail of Tears" ! . ... There was tracks like tracks like " Propaganda" - "Incinerator" - Nero - - It's My Own Invention - Rebel Without A Brain ( could have been redone or mixed to suit album ) . . ... . . . .This could have been such a classic album !!!! which was what we where all waiting on at the the time . . .. . . . Missed opportunity . Play Klan Freak an The New Trail of Tears an honestly say thats the Theatre of hate . . . . . we had,
He left due to the poor studio recordings and song selection!!!!
It sounds like a cross between Boney M and Joy Division which is truly unique.
you can add 'kings of the wild fronteir" in that drums list.. 1st band i know of that had 2 drummers??... crackin!!! 🙂\
Late night summer of 1986 I had returned to my parents suburban bungalow from a job flipping burgers. I was trying to save enough for a school trip to London, the epicentre of cool, the city of my dreams. Turn on CKLN the best college radio station in Toronto and this song began. I immediately pressed record on my tape deck, the opening riffs had transfixed me. Years of re-listening followed. I had almost forgotten the song until I found it on iTunes by happenstance.
Did you ever make it to London?
@@hopebgood yes for life changing 10 days
@@CliveGulch "Life changing" In what way? I'm all curious now ;)
Reminds me so much of The Southern Death Cult...love it! It's like...political, gothic tribal punk.
Yes......
Political, gothic tribal, punk is my favorite sub-genre... Do you clog?!
It is
Good ear. Billy Duffy was Theatre of Hate's guitarist before joining SDC and both bands had a bit of a native American theme.
I read on billy duffy's website that there was a running joke that Theatre of Hate and Southern death Cult were known as the Cowboys and Indians by their fans @@newgraham
"Westworld" and Kate Bush's "The Dreaming" were my favorite albums in 1982.
Add My Life in the Bush of Ghosts and I'll love you 4eva
Hahaha... A bit of a contrast in styles... Weren't 76 to early 83 the best for new fashion... Individuality. & Basically cool 🥰
And dont forget the damned's strawberries
I truly never tire of hearing this track...it's incredible
it is timeless classic in my box As you said i never tire of hearing this
HBO really lost a marvelous opportunity to use this song as a theme from Westworld's series... What shame! =P
I agree.With some different arrangement thou....Paint it black is too known song.
Indeed
Maycon Bruno Pires Rangel them
Maycon Bruno Pires Rangel them people don't never leave the county.
Maycon Bruno Pires Rangel Fuck the pop!
I never tire of this great song
I saw TOH at Woodville Halls, Gravesend, Kent. I think in 1979/80. One of my favourite gigs.
all about 'dat bass! great sounding snare too. Rrrock!
one of the best albums from the eighties new wave time
Definatly in the top 10 Albums EVER released.
It still sounds fresh today,and i l get shivers down my spine when i hear Love Is A Ghost.
Superb album,and a timeless classic.
This track, and 63 are my faves.
Thanks for posting this vid.
What a brilliant album
I Still have this :) Still love it :)
So dang good. I had this LP in 1984. Love it.
Great song by an awesome band!
Great album when you’re sixteen and looking for your OWN musicstyle. With a little bit help from my older friends. And I sill love it
Found this LP in excellent condition at a used record store in Alabama of all places. Boy was I delighted..
takes me back...
Brilliant song!
Much love to these geniuses:) great song.
brilliant rhythm. magnificent vocals. hope they repress it on vinyl. many thanks for upload and greetings from germany.
always loved it and probably will till day i die
after years it still gives me goos bumbs
LOVE IT TAKES ME BACK TO MANY GIGS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
I found this vinyl in the street last summer with a bunch of other vinyl !
This needs to be playing on the pianola in an episode of Westworld, hopefully next season
👍yea!
I heard them first time when I was 16 ( in 1985 ). I still have a copy of it on tape. Oh, what a summer was then.... :-) :-)
So pleased I switched the radio off in 1970's and retuned to Radio 4
How did R4 sound with the radio off?
Yeah! Kids forty years ago, eh?
this is a classic song brilliant
a great geat tracks love it thank's to post it yhea !!!!!!!!!!!!
Best song of the 80's!
Blue cover on my 7". Top tune from back in the day!
LOVE THIS SONG
Saw Theatre Of Hate at the 100 Club with me old mate Tony Barber who ended up playing for The Buzzcocks.
great song
The yellow sun was setting in tombstone
The citizens were gone but not to their homes
By a freak a coin in the piano made it play
But only the wind and the dust heard it say
Do you believe in the Westworld?
Do you believe in the Westworld?
From the south on a wind in walked a cowboy
The saloon was dry but his guns were well oiled
Somehow he remembered when he kissed his wife
And when he said goodbye
But that was before the circus with the bear arrived
Oh the bear it roared as the gun was fired
Then the cowboy turned the gun on himself as he sang
"No one's alive"
Do you believe in the Westworld?
Do you believe in the Westworld?
THE YELLOW SUN WAS SETTING IN TOMBSTONE!!!!
Quality! Real Music Never Dies!
Got to see them in the latest show in Dallas. They were on fire!
Luv this record man.
excellent !
Bought this record back in 82. Still sounds badass!
Rick Giancola I thought it wasn’t released until jan’82?????
truly one of the great albums of the 1980's
Brilliant .
We were much braver back then ,,music amde us move into movements ,,and kick some head on Saturday night
good memories
The best Positive-Punk song and band to come out of the UK by far!!!
First saw TOH early 80's amongst a plethora of punk bands at the Cardiff Top Rank. I remember Kirk Brandon swigging from a carton of orange juice in between songs and thinking, "Is this punk?" Needless to say, I enjoyed their set anyway!
Loves from Finland ❤️❤️❤️ Toh 💪🥰
am so glad 59000 people have seen this :p
Can't help thinking In Zaire when it starts!
Epic
I saw Spear of Destiny live ! Kirk has a nice voice !
happy bday Mick Jones ;-)
I had this record.wish I didn't sell a lot off my albums 🤘
I fuckin love this... i saw these in 1982 in plymouth top rank supported by southern death cult... i was 15 in an over 18s venue..
Rockin
geweldig! De oude Giganttijden herleven
Produced by Mick Jones of the Clash. He also plays guitar on this track.
I've got a few albums and singles up in the loft.
then why am i hear listening to this song and loving it?
Fucking. old times and this album ,,we did so much ,.,the kids these days ...are missing out ..
kirk brandon is doing fantastic live gigs
not alot of people know that!!
MERCI COMUS
So much nostaligia being a young punk climbing the ladder or respectability. Love it.... so many memries thanks for that.
to not or....when you as a youngster were so in awe of your peers and bacame one by clothes and hair....a glorious youth.
Is having my own personal half world death rock day lol :D
It's As If Kirk Brandon And Yul Brynner Had Somehow Formed A Kind Of " Surreal Cultural Pact " !! Both This Single From The Eighties And The Self Titled Film From The Seventies Are " Indispensable Cult Classics " !!! In My View From Adrian Browne 1965
Thanks 4 Your Support re My Post ! Take Care !! From Adrian Browne 1965
yes!
Excellent Excellent album. When I was London all of Kings Road could only talk of TOH. I bought all the albums when I came home. It still is strong. Powerful stuff. Sorry, the music doesn't compare what on in the MS scene. It's like good whiskey compared to... you get the picture.
Sir Staniel!
Speelden ze daar ook ? Zag ze in de Stokvishal. Prima optreden.Heb veel goede bands in De Gigant gezien, btw. Uit mn hoofd: David Thomas (Pere Ubu), Tuxedomoon, Modettes, Half Japanese, This Heat. Fantastische programmering dus daar...
Drum part reminds me Boney M - Night Flight To Venus
Read about this song in "The Art Of Darkness: The History of Goth" by John Robb. It is explains the sound of it so much.
I think I still have the orignal Single up in the attic.
They remind me of southern death cult mixed with the birthday party
@monsterz01 - '82 or '83 I think. There's a wikipedia article on both the band and the album, so you could check that if you want to be absolutely certain.
Yes, it's excellent ! no doubt...
@person3enpassant All for a good reason and a good cause sometimes ,,,,anger .blows up like a dynamite ,,for many reasons ,,man i still love this track ,,wish i could get my collage buddies together and march down ,,Oxford street for our rights ..i was a member of the CND back in the days ,,NO WARS NO NUCLEAR SHIT
Billy Duff🎸
Saw them in Tiffany's in Glasgow many years ago still love Westworld to the day.Backing them up were southern death cult who became the cult but I preferred theatre of hate and spear of destiny. Stay Free
Yes, I do!
@person3enpassant This is one of those songs that gets your blood boiling for justice and makes you see ,,how we have been had ,,if every one joined ,,we can easily gain our humanity rights back ,,and not let no Queen nor King or any false Government ,deprive us from ,,the wealth ..we should have
The singer from The Southern.
Death Cult
got together with the guitarist from Theatre of Hate
and formed The Cult.
John M *Billy Duffy and Ian Astbury.
a track so fucking good it takes the piss.
seen rusty dj a few times , seems to have got a bit' paul oakenfold'.
no need for micky mills with this track my friends...
if there's music we can use it.
for those in the know i salute you.
STAN STAMMERS
Stranglers bass 😉 I love this song since it came out 💋 this version isn't original one, but the rework is well done.
This sounds like the original recording I remember playing in 1982.. may have been remastered, crystal clear here. (Saw Theatre of Hate live last night - band is still great almost 4 decades later..)
The yellow sun was setting in tombstone
The citizen ......
By a freak a coin in the piano made it play
But only the wind and the dust heard it say
Do you believe in the Westworld?
Do you believe in the Westworld?
From the south on a wind in walked a cowboy
The saloon was dry but his guns were well oiled
Somehow he remembered when he kissed his wife
And when he said goodbye
But that was before the circus with the bear arrived
Oh the bear it roared as the gun was fired
Then the cowboy turned the gun on himself as he sang
"No-ones alive"
Do you believe in the Westworld?
Do you believe in the Westworld?
Oi sitä kapinallisuuden henkeä vaikka mitään kapinallisuutta ei ollutkaan. Aivan mahtava biisi edelleen 😙
Death rock gothic rocks younger brother lol :)
They kicked so much Ass as a Live Band.Theatre of Hate,one of the Best Ever.
Socrates had something to say about that. He was also worried about them being on his lawn...
[16 March 2021] I *don't* believe in the Westworld.
shuffle shuffle in de Poolcrkel in Steenwijk of in de BUze......15 jaar oud long time ago hahahahaha......zelfs mijn moederke vond deze track leuk....stonden saam te swingen in de kitchen hahahaha de afwas te doen hehehehehe
I have often wondered if this song was in any linked to the film Westworld?! I have tried to Google the songs meaning but the lyrical meaning has almost been non existent or a very small cliff note in an almost equally small commentary on the album as a whole.
I think it may be, definitely a "Western" feel to it.
I think Kirk has drawn elements from the film but it's more a rant against capitalism and injustice in modern society...Oh my god!... I sound like a cock..
Theatre of Hate and Spear of Destiny are truely fantastic.. New album out soon....
I remember an interview with Smash Hits magazine, which will be at least 35 years ago now. Kirk Brandon talked about the song, a couple of points of which for some reason, stuck with me to this day.
The 'Westworld' of the title, is 'America', but as it is seen through the eyes of the rest of the world. The cowboy in the song was US President Reagan, and the bear mentioned is Russia.
The 'yellow sun setting in Tombstone', is American manufacturing being sent abroad (specifically China and Japan were named by Kirk).
'Do you believe in the Westworld' equated to 'Do you believe in (the myth of) America.'
Amazing how things like that stay with you all this time :)
+Chris I never realised this, always thought it was their best song never realised there was a deep meaning to it.
I think it's about Communist states editing any reports about the West being successful hence keeping their citizens ignorant
The voice of John wayne :)! Ur gonna live a lot longer if u fall in after me! Ha!