How to Euro Nymph Series - On Water Session - Casting and The Drift - Euro Nymphing Basics Vol 4
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- How to Euro Nymph Series - On Water Session - Casting and The Drift - Euro Nymphing Basics Vol 4
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Check out our full EURO NYMPHING SERIES here: • How To Euro Nymph Series
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EURO NYMPHING SERIES VIDEOS
Euro Nymphing 5 Biggest Mistakes: • 5 Biggest Mistakes Whe...
Euro Nymphing Basics for Beginners Volume 1 - Fundamentals\Gear: • How to Euro Nymph Seri...
Euro Nymphing Basics for Beginners Volume 2 - Leaders and Micro Leaders: • How to Euro Nymph Seri...
Euro Nymphing Basics for Beginners Volume 3 - Rigging Multiple Flies - Fly Selection Basics: • How to Euro Nymph Seri...
Euro Nymphing Basics for Beginners Volume 4 - On Water Session - Casting and The Drift: • How to Euro Nymph Seri...
Euro Nymphing Basics for Beginners Volume 5 - On Water Session - Strike Detection - The Hookset - Fighting and Landing - Fish Handling: • Euro Nymphing Series V...
Euro Nymphing Advanced Techniques - Reading Water in Winter: • Reading Water in WINTE...
Euro Nymphing Advanced Techniques - Fly Selection: Coming Soon
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TIMESTAMPS - Basics for Beginners - Volume 4 - On Water Session - Casting and The Drift:
Intro Sequence - 0:00
Volume 4 Intro - 1:18
10K Sub Giveaway Announcement - 2:52
Casting Methods - 3:19
Casting Basics - 3:28
Oval Cast - 4:25
Line Management and Casting at Different Distances - 5:14
Tips to Manage Line - 9:30
Tuck Cast - Get Flies to Depth - 13:01
The Drift - Basics - 14:21
Key 1 - Weight of the Flies - 15:51
Key 2 - Using Thin Tippet - 16:26
Key 3 - Keeping Line off the Water - 17:54
Line Going Slower than Water - 18:25
Review: How to Achieve the Drift - 19:12
Volume 4 Wrap Up - 20:12
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Euro Nymphing Fly Tying Videos:
Sexi Stonefly: • Fly Tying - Sexi Stone...
Caddis Larva Euro Nymph: • Caddis Larva Euro Nymp...
Peacock Ice Dub Nymph - • Peacock Ice Dub Nymph ...
Walt's Worm: • Fly Tying - Walt's Wor...
Frenchie - • Easy Fly Tying - Frenc...
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Other Euro Nymphing Videos:
Euro Nymphing Monster Brown Trout: • Euro Nymphing Monster ...
Euro Nymphing - Fly Fishing and On Water Tutorial: • Euro Nymphing - Fly Fi...
Euro Nymphing in Vermont: • Euro Nymphing in Vermo...
Monster Brown Trout - Euro Nymphing the Battenkill: • Monster Brown Trout - ...
Euro Nymphing Wild Trout: • Euro Nymphing for Wild...
Pocket Water Browns - Euro Nymphing: • Black River NY - Euro ...
Euro Nymphing Brown Trout FINALLY: • Euro Nymphing Brown Tr...
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None of my business what your occupation is but I have to say this, you Sir are a natural born TEACHER! I remember when I started the first video I was going to watch a few minutes of it and save it for today. I couldn't stop watching and actually learning. Had you been my teacher in high school I likely would have been on the Honor Roll instead of dropping out of school and joining the Army, (1969). I just finished the 3rd video and I'm craving more! Thank you once again for all the time and effort you put into this production as well as putting it into an easy to follow format! Can't wait to take this knowledge with me to my favorite trout streams down in Missouri!
extraordinary fishing spot that has the potential to strike big fish, greetings from new visitors 🙏💪😎🇮🇩
Awesome!!
Absolutely amazing! Thank you so much for your effort!
My pleasure! I'm just happy people are finding them helpful!
Great job on this series!
this has tough me a lot about my mistakes, thanks
I'm glad the videos are helpful!
Now all caught up on the euro nymphing videos. Excellent content, explainations, and straight forward talk. Looking forward to #5. Keep up the good work!!
Coming. Thought I would have more editing time with having this week off of work but it hasn't worked out yet. Too much stuff to get done for xmas... Volume 5 is coming though!
This series is awesome Bryan! Really enjoying it and learning a lot from each video, thanks again!
Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying the channel! 😊
Without a doubt the most comprehensive fly fishing series. ❤
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!
Yay!!! Just in time right before my weekend ends
Haha... enjoy :)
Hi, I am from New Zealand and I am new to Euro nymphing . I am thoroughly enjoying your series-well done it is very comprehensive. Just the kind of information that a newbie like myself needs!
Thank you! People like you are exactly the reason I did the series!
Great volume! You did a great job of explaining the casts!👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks! Appreciate your support over the years!
Good stuff, thanks for the hard work that most go into this series.
Nymphing for years and just recently realized its preferable for the indicator to float slower than the current.
Yeah... that is a big key!!! You'll find most of your fish once you see your line slow down!
Another great video on euro nymphing. Love the series!!
Glad you like them!
Been Euro Nymphing for a couple of years now, I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos for this series. Great information your are providing.
Thank you!
Such a great teacher and mentor, thank-you so much. So easy to understand and so inspiring.
Thank you so much! :)
Really enjoy the videos just got done my first season of euro nymphin this year . Watching your videos to tighten up my game . Keep up the good work !!
Awesome! We can all use that ongoing tightening of our game :) I watch and learn all the time!
Best instructional video's out there. I am really enjoying them. I'm just getting started in euro nymphing.
Thank you so much! I'm glad you're enjoying them. They are built so you can go back and quickly reference certain sections as you learn. The more time you spend on the water the more things will make sense and you may go back to hear some pieces again as you start to put things together.
Great series of videos . I have learned allot and I can't wait for more ! Keep up the amazing videos . Tight Lines !
Thank you! Glad you are learning from them!
great video, keep them coming....learning a lot!
Thanks, Volume 5 is part way edited. I may throw in an adventure video in between though.. we'll see.
this series helping me GET IT.
Thank you.
You're Welcome! I'm glad it is helping! Feel free to share with your fishing buddies!
Totally enjoying this series Bryan 👍I think your doing a fantastic job really going through all the basics, I don’t think there is a better tutorial out there like yours , good job👏 But I personally can’t wait for the advanced stuff! Hope you are getting some casts in ! Tight lines
Thanks! I have a bit more to do on the basics and then we'll start recording the advanced stuff... I'll have to see how that falls with timing... once ice fishing arrives I'm fairly heavy into that. But they will definitely be coming! I'm not getting too many casts in these days honestly... but I've gotten out with a few people recently and have caught a few small fish.
Got to love these videos. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Wow amazing series and well put together with sections easily found to go back to. I am new to euro nymphing and my catch rate has dramatically increased although up to now have been floating my sighter predominantly. This volume has been the most enlightening so far which gives me food for thought and new techniques to try next time out. You are a legend and thank you so much for the effort that has gone into making these videos. Best on CZcams by far.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it! 🙂
Thank you Bryan another good lesson, this old dog learning new White Dog tricks.
Haha... I'm glad you're enjoying the series!
great series!!
Thank you! :)
Thanks for the series, you have explained a lot of answers for me.
Glad you like them!
Great info and I continue to learn something new with each video. Keep up the great work.
Awesome, thank you! I am always looking to learn too! I've actually learned a lot through doing these videos :)
Great information!
Thanks for watching!
When buddies ask me about getting started in angling . I give them a list of gear, nothing too crazy and tell them to CZcams White dog outdoors and Reds fly shop. Can’t wait for the advanced videos. Thanks for this series man me and my buddies are loving it and if you feel like it or have the time your nymph fly tying videos are super helpful as well, maybe we can get a few more of your favorite patterns in the future. Again thanks man, this is a great series.
Thank you for the support! And yes! I have some more fly tying videos planned for this winter. I need to fill my boxes so I just need to record a few while I'm in fly tying mode!
Great Video Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
very good
Second time watching the series… very helpful, I learn something new every time.
That's awesome! I'm glad to hear it! That is exactly why I built the series... so people could come back and pick more up as they learn! Hope you are catching some fish! 😊
Loving this series 😂
I'm glad you're enjoying it!
Great stuff, very deep, detailed n structured thx
Glad you liked it!
Great video 👍
Thanks 👍
Awesome. Thanks for the information 👍
Thank you! I hope you're enjoying the series!
Cool that you mentioned JP Ross. Great guy. I had him build me a 9ft 6wt in 2010, love that rod. Owning that rod encouraged me to build a 6'6" 2wt, actually I built two identical rods, one for me and one for my 3 year old granddaughter.
That's awesome! JP is a great ambassador for our sport and for being in the outdoors. His work is amazing! He built our giveaway rod for when we hit 10,000 subscribers and he blew me away with what he did!!!
Wow, so much info it's almost mind blowing for me.
LOL... I know... it's a lot to handle :)
These beginning videos have been so helpful, I am still reading all the Euro Nymphing books that I have purchased, and the information is so varied. I needed your basic starting information, to clarify a starting place. I have had my 9th surgery, so it will be a while before I can back up with our PROJECT HEALING GROUP, up in TN, or VA. I think I will be much more prepared, thank you,
MSG Leum
I could never learn fishing techniques from books. I need to see and do things to learn. Video is a much better platform for me. I hope you recover well and can get out on the water this spring!
Bravo! Superior content and delivery, very impressed. Thank you! Very possibly the best (on any subject) I have found on CZcams!
Wow, thank you! I really appreciate that! 😀
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany seriously, i hope your day job finds you as a teacher. You have a natural ability.
Great presentation thank you 👍
You're welcome :)
Excellent information and incredible photography! With my cell phone, (better than with my computer), I could easily see the colors of your indicator section, the angle of the line from the tip of your rod to its entry in the water, and the tension you maintain during the drift. This is not quite what I see from the line coming off my rod which goes a long way in explaining a lot of my limited success. Show me a video of you catching a fish makes me envious, show me a video that teaches me how to catch that fish makes me forever grateful. Thank you for all your hard work.
Thank you! I really appreciate your comment! :)
These have been great to watch. Thumbs up from the Uk 👍🏻👌🏻
Thank you! I love that we are connecting with people all over the world with this series! Happy to have you along with us! :)
Loving this series, thank you all the way from South Africa! We catch trout here as well as our indigenous Yellowfish here in our rivers which is a much harder fighting fish. This series has been very helpful as we adopt the Euro nymphing method for both here.
That's so awesome! Hope you have a good season in South Africa!
Been indicator nymph fishing for years now. Really want to use your info to begin euro nymph fishing. Practice and patience I can see will be paramount. Thanks for sharing .
Absolutely! I hope euro nymphing is something you come to enjoy and finds you success!
Bravo! Excellent tutorial. While I'm already fairly knowledgeable on the subject and I've caught a lot of fish on the method, I'm always looking for another angler's take on things, and you delivered.
Thank You! :)
Wow! Great video with details that I desperately needed. I missed the point about leader resistance vs tippet resistance in the current from volume 3. My tippet was too short, and I was using the colored leaders to obtain depth, which of course lead to my drift being all curvy and couldn’t feel anything!!! Must adjust my tippet length and size! 4X to 5 or 6! 20 inches are rare in South Carolina.
I keep going back through the volumes to make sure I’m absorbing as much as possible.
Many thanks to you and the team.
Anxiously waiting for volume 5!
Herman
Awesome! That volumes are there exactly for that purpose and hopefully the chapters help you find what you're looking for quickly!
My euro set up will be here Friday, hoping to hit the river Saturday! My coworker always slays with euro while I'm struggling with normal so I had to give in and try it
Awesome! Congrats on the new setup. I think you'll find euro nymphing to be REALLY effective!!! Good luck!
Hey Bryan 👋
I just wanted to give you a heads-up on my own progress.
Thanks for starters for the series 😀
After all the 2n and throwing with my own mistakes I think 🤔 I have finally nailed it.
I just finished a 3 day trip up to the Central North Island 🏝 nymphing the Tongariro River.
Well after hooking small trout I had my first large trout.
Sorry that is 2 in 15 minutes.
First 4 half pound rainbow 🌈 and second 5 half pound hen in superb condition.
My new ESN Rod is a 10 foot 4 weight Czech nymphing rod.
You stay say my friend.
Tight lines.
Craig.
That's awesome!!! Congrats on the success and I'm totally jealous of the fish you have in NZ!!!
I’ve watched this so many damn times 😂😂😂 I’m struggling 😂
First of all.. I'm glad you're watching the videos. It takes time on the water and a little success and then things start to fall into place. Take it a little at at time and come back to the videos for a refresher. If you need help while on the water, find a guide in your area who specifically does euro nymphing and they can help you with technique while on the water.
Hey I want to say I stumbled on to volume 1 and watch 1 thru 4 and what a awesome job you have done. I had a bit of a hard time on tying the drop line on but I’m sure I just need to rewatch it to let it soak in. I just ordered a euro nymph outfit last week and can’t wait to test it out and apply the stuff this old brain has remember in your videos. I ordered a 10 foot rod and I hope it will work for me. Keep up the great work and I digging the longer videos with more info and a slower pace. Going to watch all your videos now.
That's awesome! These videos are here so that when you hit the water you can come back and watch sections again as you need them. You'll find that as you spend time on the water a lot of these things will become a little clearer for you. Just take your time and work on improving along the way! What rod did you get?
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany as being new to fly fishing and nymphing I got a 10’ Orvis Clearwater nymph package, Rod, Reel and all line ready to go. I have a trip to the White River in Cotter Arkansas ( Trout Capital USA) home of the biggest brown trout in the USA 39 lbs.
@@LIVE4THEADVENTURE Nice... Sounds like a good starting outfit! Good luck on your trip!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany thanks for giving all of us something we can take to the water and get started on.
Great shooting angle to show the cast and the drift, I wish you started your series before I began to learn euronyphing, it would be much easier for me.
LOL I hear ya! I got the basics from Modern Nymphing and then just experimented on the water and learned every time I was out. I honestly learn a ton from people commenting on the videos too!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I'm still learning but some of my subscribers ask me to make lessons about fly-fishing because there are no good lessons in Russian, not everyone can learn from English videos.
Maybe you can allow me to record voice over your videos and publish on my channel?
Great tutorial! Need to emphasize the contact to rod and rod hand.
Yes! Absolutely!
Thanks for this series Bryan. I have anxiously been waiting for volume four, and it didn't disappoint! Was on the water yesterday, and actively wondered about a lot of the things you address. One thing I noticed in the video that I'm curious about regarding casting and line control. Several times it looks like you are doing a standard false cast while setting up to drift the run (examples at 9:41 and 12:22). Not 100% sure if that's what's going on. Am I missing something?
Still have lots of questions, and am now looking forward to volume five. Hoping you can address how to select the correct length of tippet to keep your indicator out of the water yet accurately achieve the desired depth. Also wondering about ways to address depth changes without re-rigging.
Thanks again!
Definitely good questions. If I pull out more line I will often have to pull my line downstream and give it time to unfurl before I cast it upstream. What you can't see because of the angle is that I'm still going in somewhat of an oval. I pull it downstream a little lower and then bring the rod tip a little higher and back behind me when I move it forward... it is not straight back and forth like when dry fly casting. As for tippet length and depth, I've talked about that a bit during the series. I tend to keep my tippet length a little longer than most people because I cover water with different depths when I fish and I don't want to change my tippet length all the time. If I'm in a shallower run I'll just keep my sighter further off the water as my flies achieve the right depth. And if I'm in deeper water I'll fully submerge the tippet and maybe even some of the sighter depending on the speed of the water... that way I'm not changing up all the time and can cover various depths!
The master euro nympher George Daniel book dynamic nymphing in back ground!
Heck yeah! He and the Modern Nymphing guys (Lance Egan and Devin Olsen) are my mentors for euro nymphing!
I learned a lot from this book
I feel like I’m over my head this is all new to me
Yeah... The video series is meant for everyone including people without much or any experience. Start with Vol 1 and get some basic understanding. Then work your way through the videos and rewatch them so more sinks in. Once you start spending time on the water you'll start to see how things work. Again.. go back and rewatch the videos after you've had time on the water and you'll start to get more and more of it. #1 Rule: Don't get frustrated and just enjoy your time on the water. The more time you spend doing it the better you'll get.
Great video series, very much appreciated. I have a question about streams that are very rocky. Does the technique or setup change? If so, maybe a future video..
I think things change all the time on a river, which is why I love them so much. I fish really rocky rivers a lot and the trick is getting it down to the fish without getting hung... not easy sometimes.
Loved the series
Would love to see the same water fished with a strike indicator. I am considering buying a euro nymph rig. I am simply to new to the sport
If you are new to the sport, give it some time to learn things. Fly fishing is a lifelong journey. I hope you enjoy the whole journey!
It’s definitely the most comprehensive guide going…
Thanks! Hope you get a bunch with the new Diamondback while wearing your White Dog hat! Be sure to send me pictures!
Hey Bryan. Your techniques are lethal in Appalachia too....I have a chance to drift boat the Clinch in mid-March. Will euro-nymphing work in a drift boat, or will my 10'6" euro-rod not be long enough to avoid the boat spooking the fish?
Good questions! To be honest, I have never fished out of a drift boat. I do suspect that the boat and possibly the oars would potentially spook them as euro nymphing is pretty close quarters fishing. But the boat could also help position you in locations where you cannot wade. Also, the boat moving would be interesting to deal with. On one hand you could get longer drifts but on the other hand you want to make sure the boat isn't moving downstream too fast. You'll want to maintain that good contact with your flies. Tough call on the Euro from a Drift Boat... Wish I could offer more advice on that one...
Great series, it’s been helpful. Sometimes I can’t get close enough to a part of the stream that looks to good to pass up. I can’t keep the sighter off the water with my 10’ rod. Do I just need to pass on these opportunities?
If you can't reach the water while keeping the line off the water, try either floating the sighter or using an indicator (if the water is slow enough). If you try to keep tight at a long distance you are likely to pull the flies out of a natural drift. In that situation I'll try to float the sighter and not come tight to the flies. I'll just watch the sighter for any action. It is better than passing the water up.
Thank you! I really enjoy your videos.
Another great video. What would happen on the drift if you had too long of tippet and all of it was under water. Would you just hang up. I have a hard time determining depth by eye so I’m always guessing tippet lengths
I judge depth by sight and feel. If you're keeping a tight line you should feel the flies touch bottom once in a while and\or you should see the line slow down as your flies get to the slower water along the bottom. I think it is less about tippet length and more about keeping the feel of the flies so you can judge if they're near the bottom. I do tend to go a little longer on my tippet because I can adjust the depth of my flies by just lifting my rod tip a bit or shortening the amount of line out of the rod if the water is too shallow for the full tippet length. In that case my sighter would be further off the water. But if the water gets deeper I can bring the sighter right down to the surface of the water and get my flies down in deeper water. I don't like to change my tippet length often as I cover water fairly quickly at varying depths. I'll just leave the tippet longer which gives me flexibility as I cover different types of water.
Thanks for making these videos. Can you post a link to your online fly shop? I'm having difficulty finding you guys, and I'd like to support you by making a purchase.
I appreciate you wanting to support us! At this time we don't sell anything though. I was looking into an online store for merch but there are too many hoops to jump through on the tax side that held me off from doing it for now. I know most people don't worry about doing things properly and just assume the IRS won't come knocking... but that's not me... Wanna make sure everything is legit before I do it. So for now if you want to buy supplies you can click our links in the description of our videos and anything you buy from Amazon after clicking the link will give me a small commission that I use to but gear I need to support the channel. Thank you!!!
What’s a nice person you are to share all this information! You are really detailed and perfectly explain every single bit of eu nymph fishing.
A really big thank you!!! I just would like to start eu nymph fishing very soon and you helping a lot with your videos.
I hope you keep up and do a lots more videos in the future!
I am wondering if you maybe can explain about sort of weight in grams what you use? I know depending about water flow but just like closer figure?
Thank you in advance!
YES! I have gotten the feedback on the weight of the flies a lot. I don't have a scale that is sensitive enough to measure it yet but will be getting one hopefully soon! I'd like to incorporate that into an advanced video in the series on fly selection which I'm planning this winter. I need to fill my boxes anyway so I plan to do a lot of tying videos over the winter too.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany
Hi,
Great, I am looking forward to all your videos, you have the best channel so far explaining very detailed euro nymphing in youtube.
Please can I ask if I would like to fishing in a small river and I would like to use my 7 feet rod to nymphing how is effecting the leader lenght?
Do I need to get some part of the leader sorter or can I use the same leader lenght what you recommend in Volume 2.?
Thank you in advance!
@@andrasveres1981 Good question... in a shorter rod you may consider a shorter mainline section. But honestly, you could still keep the long leader and just keep most of on the reel or in the length of the rod. It would be more like a mono rig at that point but it would work well.
Need to ask a favor for us new to Euro Nymphing…If you could say what size bead you are using on each piece of water you fish for teaching that would help me tremendously. I never seem to know where to to start as it relates to bead size. Is too heavy a bad thing? Thanks much…
I had planned on doing some of that on an advanced video when we talk about fly selection and fly tying. I think an important part is getting the right feel on each piece of water and there are sooooo many variables with that. Ultimately if you can keep a tight line and see your line slow down in a run with the water on top moving faster than your line, you are doing well. Also the bead size for me is not the entire story as I wrap lead in some of my flies. Here is a basic guideline... My regular nymphs use a 1/8" tungsten bead with a couple of wraps of lead typically. That is good for small to medium streams with water that isn't too fast. If I need a little more weight to slow my flies down in the drift I'll use a 5/32" bead on the same fly. THEN I have my sexi bomb! It is my Sexi Stone tied with a 5/32" tungsten bead, lots of wraps of .025 lead and then a second 1/8" tungsten bead. That is great for faster or deeper water.
I will definitely talk about this stuff in an advanced video though too!
Outstanding lesson. How do you secure you net to your pack? I have the magnetic system but I find it difficult at times to blindly hook up the magnets !
I used to do the same thing and absolutely hated it. I go through my Landing Net Setup in Volume 1 of the Euro Nymphing Series ( czcams.com/video/sBoqSkL9vGI/video.html ). I have a chapter for the net setup that starts around 27:20 of that video. I basically use a retractor which has worked really well for me. The link to the retractor is here: Orvis Net Retractor: amzn.to/3k3Sc0K I have links in my videos to most of the stuff I use! Good luck!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany thanks man ! I’ll check it out … you’re really helpful ! I’m gonna get the Orvis retractor.
@@captainkoo No problem! Happy to help!
Question: How do you gauge the weighted nymph whether the nymph is heavy enough but not to heavy? So I fished today where I was able to adjust my point fly where it would get down to the bottom but it did hang up on rocks. Do I simply pull up to disengage the fly or put on a slightly less heavy fly. Do I want the fly to just pinging the bottom but not hanging up on the bottom?
Thanks in advance,
Joe
You want to keep a tight line between the fly and your rod tip. You can use your rod tip to keep the flies just off the bottom. If it hangs just gently pull up to disengage it. If it is happening too much then maybe consider a lighter fly.
Hey Bryan i have a question.My leader is 10ft mono attached to 2 ft rio bio strike indicator mono which then attaches to a tippet ring.From the ring downwards i use about 4ft tippet material 6x.When you are fishing a run do you always submerge the tippet section only or can you submerge the sighter for an extra foot or two of depth?
You can submerge the sighter material if you have to. But what I typically do is tie a slightly longer section of tippet (maybe 5-6 feet depending on depth). If the run I'm fishing is shallower, I'll keep the sighter section further from the surface of the water. If it is deeper the sighter will be right at the water. It just gives me flexibility without having to retie my tippet or dip my sighter into the water too much.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany thank you
Is the goal to have your point fly always bumping off the bottom, or is there a time where you'd want your lowest fly to be above the bottom (and if so how do you consistently keep the same depth)?
Sorry for the delayed response. You do not want the point fly contacting bottom too much or you'll hang bottom too much. I want to feel it on bottom once ever few casts probably. The key is getting it down without snagging.
At 1:03 you had some sag in the line when you caught the fish. By design or just an oversight?
LOL... I knew the exact clip you were talking about before I even looked! The sag was actually created by the fact that the leader was on my rod/reel all winter as it was the first time I was out in a long time. So the leader had bend and coil in it that would normally not have been there. It did however show how the line tightens up when you get a take which is why I used the clip. :) Good catch on that by the way! Very keen eye which you will need when euro nymphing! :)
Wonderful series, thank you. One question, I’ve been euro nymphing for several years. I fish New England, near our cottage in northern Wisconsin, and with my buddy on the North & South Platte in Colorado & Wyoming. On the Platte(s) tiny is key, #22 RS2, #24 midges…. Obviously not enough weight to get down. For years I’ve been using a single split shot 12” above two tiny flies with okay results. To maintain a more vertical bottom presentation would you recommend a heavy point fly with a tiny fly on the dropper knowing that the point fly would probably never be hit? If so would you increase the dropper length so the tiny fly is closer to bottom?
Drop shot rig. Tie a blood knot with long tags six inches from the end of your tippit, nymph on each tag, splitshot at the very end. I use it for trico nymphs in Montana, works fine
@@MrCk1234567890 thank you, great recommendation.
@@jhawley5769 George Daniel gives great instruction for drop shot rigs & weight adjustment. I get most of my tips from him you should check out his content
I was going to recommend the same thing! Drop shot for that situation is what I would do!
What is the best action fast or slow action tip for euro nymphing
You typically want a longer slow action rod with a stiff butt section. Soft tip, stiff butt section. This protects light tippets but gives you the power to fight fish.
Alright so I hear you say using "heavy flies." Is there a weight/cfs formula or how do I gauge where a heavy fly begins and a light one? I've had to use up to 0.6 grams to get down while indicator nymphing. (Just split shot, no fly weight included) At this point my only assumption is that a bigger fly (based on size) will most likely be a heavier. I'm probably going to have to do some tinkering. 😏🎣 Thank you for the series and giving me more to consider before I hit the water.
THIS... is exactly why I tie my own flies! Bigger does not always mean it will sink better. I plan to go through this in my Fly Selection Video that I'll be working on this winter. I tie my flies with different size tungsten beads and different gauge lead to achieve weight in the flies. My flies vary in weight so that I can adjust on the river. On the lighter side my flies will be around 200mg and on the heavy side they'll be over 1000mg (or over a gram). After you're done with the euro nymphing series, check out some of the fly tying videos on the channel. I show how I tie them. Also, Check out the shop on my website. WhiteDogOutdoors.com/Shop Each fly lists their approximate weight. But size does not always equate to weight. Bigger flies if not tied with appropriate weight will not sink well at all because they create too much resistance in the water. This is something I plan to demonstrate in my fly selection video... so stay tuned! If you want to buy flies, I have them on my site. They're in limited quantities for now until we get enough tied lol
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany How silly of me to not think it wouldn't be in mg, that makes sense. My tie flying skills are worse than my fly fishing skills. No less winter is approaching and I don't mind making ugly flies. I will stay this, my flies do catch tree's and stick's. Lol. However, I'm interested in getting better so I'll definitely give it a look and I don't mind supporting your cause! 🙌🎣
A better way to get your flies down than the tuck cast, is to just cast more upstream.
I have the chance to get a Redington Hydrogen 10' 4wt as a second euro nymphing rod for a decent price. I know you have one. Would you recommend if it's worth getting it?
I have the 11' 3wt. It is a decent rod. I only use it as a backup rod and for people to use when I guide. The 4wt is heavier than what I have but in general it is a good backup rod. I'm not sure if the 10' 4wt is considered a euro rod though. Not sure if it has the same action.
I’d recommend the STRIKE 10’ 3wt. I purchased mine last October and have used it all this year. Love the sensitivity, handle, fighting butt, eyelets etc. Great product! My 2nd Redington Rod
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I wound up getting a Cortland Competition euro nymphing MKII rod instead. It's so different compared to my Shadow II!
@@paulconte4234 Is different good? My brother had the original Cortland Competition. Felt like a decent rod.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany different in a good way for sure. It's so much more sensative. The MKII is the next generation Cortland nymphing rods and has a totally different build quality than the Echo Shadow II.
Going back to video 1 😏
Always a good place to start! 🙂
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I've made it back and do like all the little things you make a point about. It's those little things all put together that make it all work!
What about slow deep pools? Where the water is slowest and barely moving ?
Swing that sum bitch slowly through pools like that lol
Yeah... slow deep pools are not great for Euro. I would either do what Brian mentioned (Swing the flies slowly through the pool) or use an indicator (like a thingamabob) and let the float bring your flies through the pool. A deep, slow pool will be really tough for euro nymphing. You just won't be able to keep a tight line and let the nymphs drift naturally. So either swing the nymphs, use an indicator (bobber) or throw a big stream on a sink tip and rip it through the pool :)
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany swinging is what I do like 99 percent of the time lol and I was gonna say also was instead of mending the line into the current so it slows it down even more mend it against the current so it has a little bit of extra speed and you'll usually get bit if they aren't being fussy
Do you feel the strike or see the strike more often?
This seems to be such a hot topic that I did a whole section of a video on this! It is in this video. czcams.com/video/kxvmV_alaGE/video.html The video has chapters so you should be able to find it easily. BASICALLY.... it is combination of both! And different situations will lend to one being more likely to be the more noticeable. I do find I typically feel the fish but I am also very aware of my sighter. Many times I set the hook out of instinct and I don't even remember what triggered me to set the hook. 😂😂😂
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany can’t wait to check it out! Do you try to do different type of hooksets depending if you see the strike or if you feel it? Or is it always a “jab” up at an angle? This euronymphing is so damn fun!!!
@@Gregdescargar Hooksets are the same. A short, quick snap if the wrist low and to the downstream side. If I’m fishing longer away from me I might give a little bigger hookset. I go through setting the hook in one of the videos as well.
Did everybody try to ID that fly fall in the water at about 15min.? I seen ya :)
Haha!
This is a lot like worm fishing??
As much as most people don't like to admit it, there are a lot of similarities to bottom bouncing with worms.. in fact I love use a worm imitation when I do this!