40 years of growing and learning, Jekka McVicar and Charles Dowding in Conversation
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- Seeds of change since the 1980s, Jekka McVicar and Charles Dowding discuss attitudes and approaches, then and now..
Jekka is world renowned for her knowledge about growing and using herbs. She grows organically, and grew up near to my home area in Somerset. Her home village of Pilton is site of Glastonbury Festival. She knows Michael Eavis and played at the first festival in 1970.
Her work is growing herbs for sale, and teaching how to grow and use them:
www.jekkas.com/pages/jekkas-t...
00:00 I introduce Jekka McMcVicar
00:48 Jekka explains how gardening has been part of her life since childhood, and how she came to start gardening as a profession
03:08 Jekka talks about the way she views the role of soil
03:42 I add my thoughts on the importance of the biology of the soil
03:59 We discuss people’s views towards our ways of thinking back in the 80s
04:54 Jekka talks about rewilding - the importance if rewilding with certain plants, and how to let nature rewild by itself
06:39 I talk about my concerns about weeds when I first started no dig, and how organic farmers in the 1980s would deal with weeds
07:23 Jekka talks about her past difficulties with being classified as an organic grower when growing in pots, and goes on to explain how she continually reuses the same pots for growing and why she sometimes cleans them…
08:52 …whereas I never do!
09:12 Jekka describes how she lost an entire crop of cuttings through using recycled water, and how she now uses mains water to minimise the risk, as well as using biofungus on her raised beds
10:19 We discuss the increasing interest in growing your own veg
10:57 I talk about my interest in microbes, and their beneficial effect on gut health
11:14 I explain the unexpected reason that I failed an exam in kinesiology
12:33 We talk about the first Glastonbury Festival, which Jekka played at
14:06 I talk about when and why I became interested in soil health
15:00 We talk about poisonous pyralid weedkiller…
16:11 ..and how growing is a continuous learning process
17:42 Jekka describes the positive outcome from not treating green fly
19:12 Jekka talks about our different approaches to propagation!
20:06 I give my thoughts on the power of the internet for teaching and cultivating change
21:38 Jekka gives an example that demonstrates the resilience of plants
22:25 I talk about my love for teaching
23:00 We discuss our mutual desire to impart the knowledge we have, and think about our next discussion!
We also made another video with Jekka in June 2021, which is all about growing and using herbs:
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Read about growing herbs in my Skills book
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I agree with Charles that his teaching is helping people from the ground up. His videos are the first I watched when learning about growing during lockdown no.1. I tell people who have gardened for years about how I used the no dig approach and they can't believe the results. I'm sure he's reaching more people on here in a day than a horticultural college reaches in a decade.
Ooh I hope you are right Daniel, that is exciting, thanks and well done
@@CharlesDowding1nodig Same for me, starting no dig seemed so easy (the way you explained it) so I tried it this year, the harvests are just starting to come in now!
My mom argues like "if it's such a good method, why isn't it done everywhere this way; as we do it now has hundreds of years of experience & tradition" 🤦♀️like.. ugh how even to start argue with that.. that nodig is not a newborn thing or that if medicine would be were it was hundreds of years ago.. 🙄 So, she does her dig bed, I started my own #nodig bed. Comparing the result, "I won" so visibly (+ she doesn't even does the "old" way right or consistent, whatever) YET she's like "ah yeah the soil is different there" (literally 10 m away from hers) "ah sure coz *corn roots don't go that deep*" & so on, she finds every succes for my nodig side is accidental... oh well
I’m so glad I found your channel a year ago. You have changed my life and I now have a love of gardening. Gardening doesn’t only feed me physically, but it feeds my soul too. Thank you for teaching us.
This is so nice Laura, thanks
Oh wow …. I love this format. Two pioneers just sitting and chatting. Comparing notes, comparing histories and showing us all that there is no one way to grow things that is absolutely THE right way. Plant your seeds with mucky paws like Charles, or not, like Jekka - in ground, or in containers, doesn’t really matter, but looking after the soil, the things that nourish the soil, be it water or plant matter, and being aware of just how invasive those chemical poisons are, and how long term their effects can be in ways no one thought of at the time of using them … mind blowing.
Totally agree 😍😍
Thanks Donna
Jekka and Charles, thank you for sharing your stories.
It’s so nice to see two people with a passion talk about something that should be so natural… I’ve had a allotment for 6 years and have never used chemicals…and have been making my own compost for 3 years.. and just as you both say reuse pots.. same pots same size .. and my plants seem to love the order ..and now that I’m using chicken poop.. it changed it more.. and herbs are one thing that I try each year… much love from Northumberland..
Thanks Darren, good to hear
Might say I'm invigorated by your conservation, I'm 69 and gardening! So much energy between you. Thank you
What a lovely and insightful conversation. I could have listened to you guys go on for another hour or two. I'm glad you understand the important legacy you are leaving behind for the future generations.
💚 Mikaeel
I SO want Jekka to get the Internet!!!! I hope the powers that be are listening 🤞🤞🇬🇧
Respect from Africa 🇿🇦
Keep teaching Charles and we will continue to learn and Jekka hurry and get internet I for one would love to hear more from you.
Thank you for today's post.
Vegetables, herbs, no dig, biodynamics, container gardening, progressing, learning, and sharing.
What joy!
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What a fabulous confab! ☺️ Thank you so much to the two of you for taking the time to sit down and talk and tell us all about your journey to date. So very interesting!
Glad you enjoyed it Anne
it's powerful when individuals learn and care for the life around them and their homes.
Thank you so much both, for an amazing video. Thank goodness for organics. We are all fighting 'big ag' so much these days. The EU have moved the licencing decision of glyphosate a couple of years forward, and their primary reason was that there were so many shareholders involved. Not the fact that so many illnesses and diseases are derived from it. I am reading Toxic Legacy at the moment and it is pretty scary how the world is so reliant on big company shareholders and their fingers in so many pies of more powerful industries, rather than worry about the health of everybody else, and what these chemicals are doing. Thank you so much once again, as you say - from the roots up! Thankfully there is light at the end of the tunnel. It would be wonderful to see you both do other videos together.
That is interesting and frightening information Amanda. And for example, I'm just in a discussion with Dow about poisoned potato plants, fortunately in a sack and not with manure spread on the ground!
Glyphosate is the least of our problems. It’s the plethora of herbicides and GM seeds engineered to withstand herbicide applications, along with fungicides, that’s more ruinous for growers who just want to grow naturally.
Grazon is precisely one of those. Commercial growers use it when growing grasses, corn, wheat, hay, etc. It stays in the stems, straws, etc for 3 YEARS.
Signs of this toxin, herbicide, are TREES and plants twisted, frequently dying..
@@CharlesDowding1nodig Really? Will you let us know, Charles? It is frightening, and thankfully videos like yours get the information out there.
@@amandar7719 Very true, it is an absolute minefield, and the ordinary shopper is so in the dark about these things, taking in the info big ag creates to protect themselves. However, it is the licencing of glyphosate which has made me quite angry. They were due to have it, with all intent and purposes, removed this year, but the EU stepped in, for no other reason than fear of failing stakeholders. It is also frightening to know that no matter how organic I grow and eat, I will still have glyphosate in my bloodstream.
Strike up the Brass Band.
How delightful to listen to two COURAGEOUS individuals who dared to do it better in this backward world we live in!
Hats off to Charles and Jekka and all of their followers.
No Dig is a life altering experience and I want to challenge everyone to give it a go!
MOST REWARDING!
Great thanks Connie, and keep challenging!
I’m clear on the western side of the US and must admit Charles has had a huge impact on the way I approach growing food and gardening. It’s been such a wonderful lesson and I so appreciate the continual lessons and shared progress.
Thanks for your feedback! I wish you fine harvests 🥦
I have a book written by Jekka McVicar. It's stayed with me since my teens. She has been part of my garden journey. And now, I get to øearn from Charles Dowding too. I feel so fortunate!
💚 nice to hear and thanks
So much knowledge in less then 30 minutes
Thanks for sharing this with us Charles
Glad it was helpful!
I loved this. What a fantastic conversation to be allowed to listen. I can't wait to see more of y'all as a duo in the future.
THE ENGINE OF THE GARDEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS FOR OUR NEXT SONG TITLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So lovely hearing the birds in the background. A testament to Charles' gardening style.
This was absolutely brilliant Charles. Please more videos like this!!
I enjoyed listening to the two of you talk, very interesting!
Dear brother Charles, really nice to hear you and Jekka talking about your farming experiences and backgrounds !
Thanks so much
These principles and practices are invaluable! Yes, please, teach on! I've learned so much since I found you in 2020. Thank you!!!
Thanks and you are so welcome!
I am 53 years old this year and I wish I had knew more of no dig gardening when I was younger!! I am indeed greatful to people like Charles who so willingly shares his vast treasure of knowledge to the rest of us!
Cheers Albert. You have good years ahead :)
Wonderful video. Today we spent 4 hours trying to get a good photo of a damselfly who wanted to be on our washing line for some reason. She would leave and come back and eat what she found. Brilliant photos and an afternoon well spent learning how she fed, how she evaded the sparrows and how the sun played on her wings. Everyone should spend time on their backs in a field (or under a washing line)!
Amazing and thanks for sharing!
My dad composted in the 50s and 60s, doubtless used chemicals - and ... I married a biologist, and his biologist mum had read Silent Spring, and got an early copy of Findhorn Garden in the mid 70s! We've been fortunate in Oregon there's a strong organic movement, and natural groceries and farmers markets -
As a massage therapist for nearly 40 years, and I've often needed to scrub my fingernails 😀 gardening and listening to nature is always a new adventure!!
Lovely to hear this Nadya. Findhorn, another story to tell!
Well then......a CZcams video with 2 senior ish age people having a chat....doesn't sound very exciting unless they're Jekka and Charles.What a great video with these two...thanks for posting.
A great episode. Thank you.
What a fantastic interview! Thank so much Charles & Jekka - this is the best thing I've seen on CZcams for a long time! We must all keep learning & sharing this information - so many people still don't know how many chemicals are used to grow their food!
Cool and thanks :)
What a treasure you both are. I absorb every word Jekka says, whenever you have her on. There’s such a need for both of y’all’s knowledge & wisdom.
Very inspiring conversation between two inspiring people! Jekka and Charles, thank you for this lovely video! I absolutely support Jekka - you have to make another meetings and videos like this. It's really inspiring and I think even necesary for so many people, who are interested from organic growing.
So glad you like it, thanks 💚
Excelente vídeo. Las uñas de un jardinero, es la manicure más hermosa. Saludos 🌻💜🇨🇱
Oh I loved this so much. I’m on a binge through all your videos Charles - can’t get enough and I’m learning so much. Feeling very grateful that you have put so much time into your teaching and that you are sharing so much freely with us. I’m absolutely hooked and am so eager to put what I’m learning into practice! Thank you 🙏
So glad to hear that, go you!
What a lovely, charming video: two people who are masters of their craft sharing opinions and stories. Please do another one soon!
Love this! Please, more collaborations, there's so much knowledge between you!
Thank you so much, both of you. That was one delightful listen. So much wisdom and knowledge, and so prepared to share. Inspirational growers.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Absolutely brilliant. My neck is sore from all the nodding! No, but seriously Charles it’s thanks to you that I’m focused on repopulating our soil with a healthy biome. The ah-ha moment led to months and months of research and a major change in practice. Mainly, being dedicated to not being in such a hurry. Giving things time is so very important.
The focus on soil life last year was so beneficial. Early this spring, after a very very wet and cold winter, mushrooms appeared almost covering the surface of the beds. Lettuce seeds left out from last year were popping up and thriving months ahead of time without interference from slugs. It was too cold for them to be active. If it weren’t for the soil activity the ground wouldn’t have supported the plants. Potato seeds sprouted as well. I don’t mean seed potatoes, I mean seeds that dropped from the plants that had flowered two years ago. Mother Nature has spent millennia creating this system, working with a respect for those systems. Well.. it’s brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Thank you.
Yes to the internet! Ive learned so much from you (far away from me) and have so much success to share out locally
Love that Sarah, go for it!
Such an informative, interesting and adorable video! I enjoyed this so much. 👍🏼thank the both of you. 🥰
So glad!
CD is the man! I went from knowing nothing about growing food to composting my way out of poor health! His vids have taught me everything I know about gardening. He's a living legend imho! Genuinely love the guy, and would give him a hug and thank him in person if possible. Mark in Oregon
How lovely to read this Mark and I feel privileged to be able to help and empower people like yourself.
What a super conversation. I am realy amazed how the word Organic suggests something new and the best thing sinced sliced bread. I have been gardening since the 1960s and watched natural growing become the super ugly intensive farming, with all its dreadful chemicals and now it is going back again but with the young telling us it is new.
😂 so right Andy!
I grew up in Detroit, Michigan (USA). I have always said God had his hand on me guiding me in life. I didn’t have any real guidance on anything good in life growing up. Being born in the early 1960s, I remember having a very small space. Specifically I remember growing cabbage and finding bugs eating it. I can attest to the tons of synthetic fertilizer and toxic chemicals that were dumped in my garden.
Once I was grownup I joined the Navy. After 25 years, I retired and got back into gardening. I’ve been “organic” growing since 2010! No dig last three years.
I thank you for sharing your stories. It’s such a large world, yet so small.
Cool Sally, and keep spreading the word 😀
A lovely and uplifting video. Thank you both very much.
Lovely people. I have much less knowledge, but also have been feeling compelled to teach
Go well!
That was a lovely informative chat. Much better than a question and answer session.
So glad!
Soil is amazing stuff charles,it fills our bellies and it fills our graves.
😂 great points
So inspiring and heart warming with many golden nuggets of wisdom to implement in my garden. I agree reaching out to millions is the way forward, as politicians (influenced by big agri-business) fail us on so many levels. It is shocking that even today with what we know of healthy soil science that such 'agent orange' type chemicals are still so prevalent in main stream agriculture. Thank you so much for all both of you are doing, from Minnesota, USA.
Cheers Joe
Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Loved the conversation between the both of you.
Glad you enjoyed it Stephanie
Excellent knowledge and wisdom. Nodding my head continuously 😊
Thank you so much for sharing your personal stories and experiences. So much amazing wisdom ... that's great to listen! 💚🌱
Glad you like them!
So grateful for all their experiences and such a blessing.
So glad you have brought your knowledge to the internet, Charles. I have learnt so much from you these last two years, all the way from New Zealand. I remember the organic movement struggling to take hold in our town when I was a child in the 90s, and thought that by now it would be normal practice. I hope that the influencers of today can command enough consumers to make a big change, though it feels like we are up against the big companies still.
Thanks Sophie, and yes we have mainstream media to contend with
Lovely discussion! It is wonderful hearing these "young" persons talking about the same things we were learning in the 1960's about the benefits of organic growing. Back then we were thought of as rebels because we were going against what the agriculture schools and the chemical companies were pushing. Sixty years later I'm still a rebel. Ha!
Wonderful 😂
Thank you both for your dedication commitment and inspiration. 🌱🕊
2 of my favourite gardeners, really enjoyed listening to this video. I've been growing lots of Jekkas herbs in amongst my vegetables and it works so well attracting hoverflies and other beneficial insects. I grow everything from seed and must say that Jekkas seeds have great successful germination every time. I have difficulty generating enough compost for my very large allotment so use a lot of well rotted cow manure and various green manures to feed the soil. Looking after the soil, feeding the microbes is fundamental for growing healthy plants. Thank you Charles for the inspiration your videos have given me to be growing on a no dig allotment, the results I'm getting back is amazing, healthy nutritious vegetables for the 3rd year now.
So good to see this Gabby!
Great vid , really enjoyed it after shovelling mushroom compost most of the day . Yes I'm one of those millions . Cheers
This is wonderful two people talking sense and we have limited Internet
This is brilliant! Thanks so much for sharing your experiences, thoughts and jokes. Looking forward to many more years to come from you both. Cheers.
Thanks so much!
Dwoje cudownych ludzi , ich pasja i radość z tego co robią , fantastyczne . Jestem z Polski i od 2 lat stosuję - no dig - jestem tym zachwycona. Pozdrawiam
Dziękuję bardzo i cieszę się, że odnosisz sukcesy!
"I've got clean fingers..."
"Bollocks!!". 😁
I can't wait for Jekka's channel. Start making videos now, so you can just pump them out at us in time! 👍
Two wonderful people who you could chat with for ever. I remember growing up in the 80’s and we’d have to clean out the chook (chickens) house for the manure to put in the garden for the veg. No chemicals were used then. And if you look at your great grandparents and the great great etc grand parents they were healthy and didn’t use chemicals like they do now.
Yes I think they were healthier, contrary to what is claimed in mainstream/legacy media
Charles, your teaching is so valuable. So many of us here in America look to Britain for advice and inspiration about gardening, and you are the best of the best!
Wow, thank you Jen. Thankyou America for providing the platform!
So much wisdom both these masters. Love you Charles
😀
Here in my home town, the town’s landscaping company sprayed glyphosate on some weeds under the trees that lined Main Street. The glyphosate evaporated and the trees absorbed it and died.
I have just posted about it. Read Toxic Legacy, you will have a lot of ammunition to complain about such a catastrophic thing
Oh how awful. Should be in mainstream/legacy media
More of this please 🤗
I grew up watching The Victory Garden on PBS, Gardening Naturally and The Gardening Guy Paul James. Now I watch Charles Dowding many years later and I'm still learning new things. What an awesome way of life to be able grow organic fruits and vegetables. What an awesome hobby gardening is. Just the process of turning our kitchen scraps and garden waste into compost to feed our soil is such an enjoyable experience. 😍
Lovely to read this Robert!
Fabulous and inspiring. Your classroom is reaching across the world. Blessings from Oregon.
Thank you Susan 😊
What an engagjng and insightful conversation. Thank you both. I continue to learn so much from you Charles, and I'm hoping to learn more about cultivating herbs too. So, I'll be tapping into Jekka's knowledge . Thanks again both of you. Sensational 🙂
Lovely, thanks
brilliant conversation - love it - more please -wisdom is so important
Perfect timing ! Been looking back at the adaptions and evolution of my backyard veg garden over 30 years. ..always an instinctive gardener, so no dig organic was and still is my way to go 💕💕
I am 43…I just finished to built my house with 17000 sq of back yard. I am so exciting about my future garden. I already start to do my first compost. I am watching all garden CZcams videos. The older I am the more I want to stay away from the city. I learned a lot from your videos as well. Thank you for sharing all info.
Happy to read this Elena, I wish you great health and wellbeing
Thank you so much for sharing all this knowlege in such a good and encouraging way
Thank you so, so much for this wonderful discussion - the power of plants! I am currently up to my eyes in study/revision for my next RHS exam and this provided a much needed break. More than that, it reminded me of why I am studying the most wonderful subject of horticulture! Thank you :-)
How lovely! Good luck with the exam
So fun to watch this. Hearing the passion and experience is so fun.
Thanks Sarah
cant believe it taken 40+ years Charles! that's the power of the internet to inspire
So right Robert!
Great to listen to you both .more please.
People like you make what can be complicated to people like me understandable 🥴
Thank you ❤
Nice to hear Don :)
So nice to meet you both! 👍🤗
Thank you for your time and wisdom!
Many years ago I visited the Chelsea Flower Show, there I met Jekka McVicar. 😊
I bought some seeds, she offered there, also a book about her herbs.
She has a daughter, who painted all the herbs, I still have the packages with the wonderful pictures.
I also propagate herbs in my garden, save and clean the seeds.
I know, how much work it is and carefully put it in the earth every year.
I love gardening as resilience and source of happiness.
Best regards from 🐝 Moosdorfer Beegarden, Upper Austria🐝🌼🦋🐛🌱🌱🌱🌱🌼🙋♀️
Lovely to read this Helga and your herb garden sounds lovely!
@@CharlesDowding1nodig , thank you!🙋♀️🕊🌱🐝🌸
Jekka said it perfectly. What you guys were doing in the 80s is the roots for what we are striving for today. What we all do today will effect our futures and maybe that once small thing,becomes something so big further down the line. Thank you.
🙏!!
Charles, the amount of free information you pass on is incredible. Everyone I meet with an interest of growing there own veg, the first thing I say is, "check out Charles Dowding on CZcams".
I massively recommend your online courses.
Charles the teacher, thank you 😊
So nice Jon, thankyou
The Galaxy chocolate moment, two fantastic people sitting and sharing their experiences. Have so much respect for your teaching Charles and Jekka’s Nursery skills, I have taken onboard your love for soil and Jekka’s nurturing of plants. So enjoyed this video. Thank you. Heather moved from Isle of Wight and now in Southern Ireland struggling with rain and slugs
Heather! moved from IoW?!! Different weather for sure, wish you well
@@CharlesDowding1nodig To much hassle with council on iow setting up a no dig garden and willow beds, no one understood and they wanted me to jump through hoops as they put me in the same category as plant and heavy machinery on my building application. Here in Southern Ireland was the only place I could afford with land. Landed myself with a job in community poly tunnel but no one seams to care and they just think no dig is raised beds. Ahhhh hope you are well and I so loved the little time I spent at home acres.
Omg what a journey!
Wishing you well with it all. Getting this knowledge out there is not easy it seems!
It's a rare sight to see sir Charles sitting on a chair 🪑 and speaking usually he stands among the growing beds and conducts interviews ,, nice content two knowledgeable person sharing their Xperience and knowledge 👍 enjoyed watching 🇮🇳🌱👍
What a delightful conversation between two pioneers. Thanks for letting us listen in to your time together. May you both flourish in your increasing teaching roles.
Cheers Dwight
this was an absolute delight 💚
Thanks
Thanks again
Awesome chat guys 👍 A meeting of great minds. Hopefully you can do this again soon 🤘
I really enjoyed this - many thanks. Fascinating to hear Jekka's history with Glastonbury as well as being part of the early organic movement. Her book of seeds has been a joyful reference for many years. I've also been reminded to do a test sowing of broad beans on the well rotted manure gift from a friend. Thanks again.
Glad you enjoyed it 💚
Thank you! Thank you! You share your wealth of knowledge in such an enjoyable way. You are both so inspiring. ❤️
I adore my no-dig garden. I did follow Charles directions and it works!!! I see people that began to no-dig, but changed it up a little - they just had to till once before building the bed as plants just can't grow in their hard pan dirt so they want to help the plants. They don't realize that when they didn't have wonderful results - they just didn't follow directions properly! After all, plants (weeds) are growing in their hard pan dirt. Like when people get a dog then don't let it be all the dog it could be by treating it like their human baby.. No-dig is just wonderful and gets better every single year with less and less weeding and more and more fertility. I was laughed at in the 70-80's when I organically gardened - made fun of, and people thought I was just silly. Then they thought it was silly to stop spraying DDT on the ponds to kill mosquitos until they caught a fish and it smelled of DDT. Now the city (in US) comes at night down the streets to spray the air all around my yard with poison to kill the mosquitos and they kill the bees and butterflies which of course they care nothing about. So many people think food comes from the grocery store - just go buy it, why plant a garden? Sorry for my tirade but last month I had dozens of bees and many butterflies and this month I see one lonely bee working my salvia and no butterflies - none. It is so sad and really gets me angry. But I love this channel! Thanks for keeping on.
And thank you Mary. Yes it's tragic, somehow we need to wake more people!
Well thank-you both so much for such a wonderful video it has bought out so many good comments from people who like Amanda-Jayne Jones and others here.
What is quite often forgotten is how the chemicals enter the water systems, the streams and rivers affected, the wildlife there , the fish all that live there
and then we take no notice of those people observing and telling about the alterations, fishermen stating their sport being on the decline and others giving little or no respect to them because it's the shareholders whom hold the cards, shareholders
are earners just like it was the same for the shareholders of the coal mines or for the oil fields those who produce petrol, chemicals and other silent killers.
The wildlife affected is shown just with lose of bee's let alone other ways not yet seen.
Thanking you both so very much.
Maureen
Thanks Maureen, nice comment on a sad siruation
Absolutely loved this chat and am so grateful to have learned from you, Charles! I found you at the beginning of the pandemic and your lessons have changed my life.
That's so nice thanks
Excellent interview
Wonderful getting to know both of your backgrounds! Thank you Charles and Jekka.
Fascinating discussion: relaxed, informative and hallelujah no James Wong! Charles is a bit of a fashion icon I think. Great shirt, trouser combination.
So funny Simeon! Amazing thought
One encouraging aspect of this "No Dig" & organic subject is the introduction to Regenerative Agriculture, which is now being taken up worldwide with good results. You do not need to be a farmer, it is just as valuable for anyone with a tiny yard/garden. One of the best persons on this subject is Gabe Brown, &, Allan Savory's Holistic Management. It is an inspirational subject that offers much education on its principles... You can find Gabe Brown on CZcams among other places. Regenerative farming is beyond organic concentrating on the soil, ecosystems, no-till, &, working with nature whilst growing healthier & bigger yielding foods. It also helps to prevent desertification & flooding... I thoroughly recommend people watch & learn from Gabe Brown! Regenerative Agriculture...
Really enjoyed that conversation. Those teach and confirm so much.
So glad!
Really enjoyed this video. Thank you both.
That was lovely to see you two bounce off each other, and in turn impart your joint wisdom on us. So many people value you so much, Charles. Just reading through the comments here shows that over and over.. You are, a gift. Thank you ❤️
PS when are you coming to Australia to visit us!?
Thanks Suzanne. I had a trip planned in 2019/20 then there were the fires. Now it's looking unlikely because I decline the you know what 😀 and am in excellent health
@@CharlesDowding1nodig I hear you.. and I’m sorry about that 😔. But! They’re changing the rules, if they haven’t already, just have to show a negative result on arrival now I believe..
so we will keep hope that you’ll visit here one day in the future 😊