with Cirie, she got screwed over twice because of oversight basically. a final 2 with a jury of 8(that wasn't the plan beforehand), and everyone being immune except her. ok.
Some of the best all around players never could win. And I don’t just mean challenge beasts like Ozzy. I mean well-rounded players like Andrea and Malcolm.
@@matta6395 Nope. That's not how it works. The ultimate winners are often not on anyone's top lists until the finale. It's not the early seasons anymore. People are sharp and all looking to get rid of threats. In a game that increasingly comes down to social skills, there's no way to show those skills covertly. MOST seasons from about 30 on see the prime players go home earlier regardless of how well-rounded and good they are.
@@monovision566 if you get voted out for being a big “threat”, you aren’t a great player. Survivor is all about getting to the end and getting the jury to vote for you. If you don’t do those 2 things, you aren’t great. Sure you good be good but the best of the best find ways to win
@@matta6395 Again, it's not that simple. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many winners that even their own juries weren't excited about. Game mechanics are constantly shifting, advantages and twists introduced, etc. The game often screws some players and not others by simple luck of the draw.
bro malcolm js my survivor goat to gets no credit whatsoever he was just unlucky to be in a season with denise because if she wasn’t there he would have won no doubt
I wish for a season of all challenge beasts, call it the Clash of Titans. 10 men 10 women, challenge beasts all. Just so nobody gets voted solely "because they're a challenge beast". Bring back the likes of Joe, Jonathan (42), Wentworth, Lauren (38), all the fit looking people and make it look like a season of Love Island only they're all out to kick each other's butt
Anyone can win. It really depends on who you are playing with. Self awareness is the most important quality I believe. Being able to sense who likes and trusts you. People hated on Fabio as a winner, but he understood his perception by others and played into it. You don't have to be a master strategist to win if you have the right social game.
There needs to be more incentive to win...someone like Ozzy or Malcolm would have to win 8-9 straight individual immunities to ever have a shot at winning . It's turned into a game where most people who make the final just float until final 5-6 then win 1-2 challenges.
Culpepper goes into the hall of fame for sure. Voted off pre merge his first time around but was important enough to be invited back for a returnee season where he dominated in challenges and on the strategic side and was ultimately named 1st runner up loosing to Sarah Lacina. (Brad deserved to win that season) Also in the hall of fame is Tai Trang for just being so wholesome and funny. Argue all you want about whether or not that qualifies him for the hall of fame but you can’t change my mind. Naming chickens and apologizing to trees, you can’t tell me that’s not HOF material on sheer comedy alone plus he made deep runs both times he played. Honorable mention to Caleb Reynolds who could have been HOF had he been allowed to play more of the game. Unfortunately circumstances got in his way and he was medevaced on day 9 of Kaôh Rōng after the island tried to kill him and then voted out on day 9 of Game Changers because people were scared of him. I wish he’d been allowed a deeper run. He could have won.
I’ve tried out for SURVIVOR 24 times. I’m not going to give up. You’ll see me on there. And when I’m on, you guys will remember me. When I become the sole survivor and win that $1 Million. 😉 Probts, I’m waiting for your call to bring me out to play SURVIVOR. ❤️
I can't wait to see your name on that parchment. Doesn't matter if that means you are voted out or become the Sole Survivor at least you made it in. Keep trying!
It also has a lot to do with the people who you pick to be on the show together. You know by the interviews of these people that you are putting them up against odds that are not in their favor to win.
@@pil3driverwaltz164 true, you can't predict when another player has an idol or an advantage or when they're gonna be suddenly be good at an immunity challenge. sometimes it all comes down to luck
Rupert is the greatest Survivor player of all time to have never won. Tony is the single greatest player to ever play the game and the most entertaining by far.
I mean are you a good player if you waited and only won because everyone else who was good got voted out and you won on effectively a coin toss. Are you a bad player because you made a gamble and messed up. Are you a bad player for getting out because someone’s been gifted multiple idols. Are you a bad player because you get stuck on a tribe with worse players and have no one to help you.
@@abluraskin it’s basically impossible to win again because almost every player will see them as a threat and vote them out before the game even gets close to the end
Why does it havr to be the jury who decides to win surviver? The person who can give the biggest sob story wins! This show is getting old... most people are salty and just dont want to vote for the epople who voted them out. Change it up! Why not have them compete till he very end?. The person who wins challenges gets the money!? Right now you can skate by not be a threat, say i need moneyand win? Kenzi didnt need the money first off, she owns her own salon. They make a lot of money. I dont think i can watch this anymore, they need to change up and make it fair ao people playing the game have a chance to win!
Eliminate all the stupid advantage, twist, and all the unnecessary stuff. Keep it as simple and as original Survivor. that is why the earlier Survivor winner still the best
What's impossible CBS is watching 27 minutes of crying per episode! If You bring back Banhu or Liz for S50 then we all quit watching. From spokesman for all african survivor fans! By the way why does South African Survivor always have a white majority? Its Africa, the ratio doesn't add up.. and why are 70% american survivor players gay or trans or whatever.. ratio also doesn't make sense! Be more like Australian Survivor! Bigger! Longer! Uncut!
@@kyleemeg2171 I don't! I have a problem with the ratio. South African survivor for example is racist. Country with 90% black population shouldn't produce a survivor series with only 40 - 50% black people. Same with gay trans in America. At this point they represent less than 20% of the American population but get about 50% of the available slots.. it's not fair!
This show is just a reality show.It has nothing to do with real survival. I enjoyed watching it though because I love picking apart that so many people have no clue what they're doing. The contestants have no idea how to survive nor would they ever for ten days much less thirty nine without the help of all of the rewards. This is just a so proper on an island.
Cirie
Ozzy
I think Jesse from 43 will be seen up there in a few years, especially if he comes back for another season.
And tai
Russell
Danielle from China/Micronesia/HvV
@@seanf1451That’s Amanda. Danielle was runner up in Panama and also played in HvsV
@@mgray3374 oh I'm stupid
Nobody is mentioning Domenic from ghost island? He played so well that season. Completely dominated wirh wendel.
So true
Hell he almost won. He is the closest runner-up to not win.
Dom and Wendell is doing so well that I'm over the whole Naviti Strong schtick that season, it felt so boring when you're rooting for someone else😭
with Cirie, she got screwed over twice because of oversight basically. a final 2 with a jury of 8(that wasn't the plan beforehand), and everyone being immune except her. ok.
Some of the best all around players never could win. And I don’t just mean challenge beasts like Ozzy. I mean well-rounded players like Andrea and Malcolm.
Nope. If they were truly great players they would find a way to win
@@matta6395 Nope. That's not how it works. The ultimate winners are often not on anyone's top lists until the finale. It's not the early seasons anymore. People are sharp and all looking to get rid of threats. In a game that increasingly comes down to social skills, there's no way to show those skills covertly. MOST seasons from about 30 on see the prime players go home earlier regardless of how well-rounded and good they are.
@@monovision566 if you get voted out for being a big “threat”, you aren’t a great player. Survivor is all about getting to the end and getting the jury to vote for you. If you don’t do those 2 things, you aren’t great. Sure you good be good but the best of the best find ways to win
@@matta6395 Again, it's not that simple. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many winners that even their own juries weren't excited about. Game mechanics are constantly shifting, advantages and twists introduced, etc. The game often screws some players and not others by simple luck of the draw.
bro malcolm js my survivor goat to gets no credit whatsoever he was just unlucky to be in a season with denise because if she wasn’t there he would have won no doubt
I wish for a season of all challenge beasts, call it the Clash of Titans. 10 men 10 women, challenge beasts all. Just so nobody gets voted solely "because they're a challenge beast". Bring back the likes of Joe, Jonathan (42), Wentworth, Lauren (38), all the fit looking people and make it look like a season of Love Island only they're all out to kick each other's butt
nice
Beast wars
Theywould rather cast idiots that can't swim these days.
@@SouthernSkeptic It's probably for the narrative. Underdog story, weakness overcome, rising up etc.
@@ex1dia876 Whatever it is, it sucks..
Russell
Cirie
Ozzy
Joe
Amanda
Coach
Are some of the best to never win
Malcolm way over Joe
Coach 😂🤣😂🤣
@@spacecadet2172 Coach dominated South Pacific… wdym?
Bro tried to sneak in Joe
@@1863ArthurMorgan Coach is, was and always will be a complete joke
Tony has to be one of if not the greatest player out there, i could argue for so long why he deserves to be top 2
Well he did win the winners season so he have to be top 1 lol
queen cirie
Anyone can win. It really depends on who you are playing with. Self awareness is the most important quality I believe. Being able to sense who likes and trusts you. People hated on Fabio as a winner, but he understood his perception by others and played into it. You don't have to be a master strategist to win if you have the right social game.
There needs to be more incentive to win...someone like Ozzy or Malcolm would have to win 8-9 straight individual immunities to ever have a shot at winning . It's turned into a game where most people who make the final just float until final 5-6 then win 1-2 challenges.
Rick Devens
mann i swear chris was the worst winner i’ve seen. hated how late they brought back people from the edge.
@@alexglass746ericka? gabler?
Jeff please do a sixties survivor!❤
Russell…
No. He knows why he lost, he knows why he’ll never win
He should have won Samoa. After that, he would never win.
He is a great strategic player by all means, but he very much lacks emotional intelligence.
John from season 42.
Culpepper goes into the hall of fame for sure. Voted off pre merge his first time around but was important enough to be invited back for a returnee season where he dominated in challenges and on the strategic side and was ultimately named 1st runner up loosing to Sarah Lacina. (Brad deserved to win that season)
Also in the hall of fame is Tai Trang for just being so wholesome and funny. Argue all you want about whether or not that qualifies him for the hall of fame but you can’t change my mind. Naming chickens and apologizing to trees, you can’t tell me that’s not HOF material on sheer comedy alone plus he made deep runs both times he played. Honorable mention to Caleb Reynolds who could have been HOF had he been allowed to play more of the game. Unfortunately circumstances got in his way and he was medevaced on day 9 of Kaôh Rōng after the island tried to kill him and then voted out on day 9 of Game Changers because people were scared of him. I wish he’d been allowed a deeper run. He could have won.
Sarah deserved the win but brad played great
Bro im still mad carson didn’t win season 44
RICK DEVENS
Colby
I’ve tried out for SURVIVOR 24 times. I’m not going to give up. You’ll see me on there. And when I’m on, you guys will remember me. When I become the sole survivor and win that $1 Million. 😉
Probts, I’m waiting for your call to bring me out to play SURVIVOR. ❤️
Probst, if you ever see this, don't you dare take this guy on, his mother has a peg leg with a kick stand!
I can't wait to see your name on that parchment. Doesn't matter if that means you are voted out or become the Sole Survivor at least you made it in. Keep trying!
Christy :( loved her
Cirie and Fishbach
no not fishbach
It also has a lot to do with the people who you pick to be on the show together.
You know by the interviews of these people that you are putting them up against odds that are not in their favor to win.
Russell,ozzy,joe
Key thing is it’s impossible, but what that really means is you could run each season back and NOTHING would go the same, forget the same winner.
RICK DEVINS!!!
😂you’re the best!😂
Nobody is mentioning Domenic drom ghost island? He played so well that season. Completely dominated wirh wendel.
Jessie Cirie and Russel and top 3 no doubt and Kelly comes close.
what podcast is this?
Even tho let’s be real. In the new era so far. Jesse, Omar, and Carson are the only 3 with potential to get into the hall of fame
Russel and Tony
Cirie, malcolm, Russell, Amanda.
Jeff just say Russell Hantz
Ozzy, Cirie, Kelly Wentworth, Amanda, Penner, Russell I’d even add Candace in there too maybe even Andrea.
Colby, Joe, and also Coach.
Ozzy
It’s just weird that it’s called survivor but guys like Rupert who is the only one who can actually survive never wins.
aubry bracco
90% luck
40% luck and 60% skill
Not 90%. Maybe 33% to 40%.
@brianezell5790 yeah, you got to have the know-how to put yourself in the right situation.
@@pil3driverwaltz164 true, you can't predict when another player has an idol or an advantage or when they're gonna be suddenly be good at an immunity challenge.
sometimes it all comes down to luck
ozzy
RUPERT
😍😘
Malcom sadly :(
Queen Sandra must’ve done something right to win TWICE!
The only true 2x winner! Its easy to be a 2x winner when everyone playing has already won, whoever won was gonna be a 2x winner.
She could have won Australian Survivor if they prob hadn’t flown her in on a helicopter 😅
Rupert is the greatest Survivor player of all time to have never won. Tony is the single greatest player to ever play the game and the most entertaining by far.
said a whole lotta nothing
Exactly
Haven’t watched since he thought “come in guys” could be offensive.
Really? What does he say now?
@@idontthink”Come on in”
Hey, Get with the times... or don't watch! No one will miss you!
@@stenberger973 Oh, that's basically the same. Why are people being so dramatic? 😂 I think it's a good change actually.
Baunu I was the best contestant
Καλά Ελλάδα το έχουμε τερματίσει
Are you a good player if you could never realistically win? Isn’t the point of a game to… win?
I mean are you a good player if you waited and only won because everyone else who was good got voted out and you won on effectively a coin toss.
Are you a bad player because you made a gamble and messed up.
Are you a bad player for getting out because someone’s been gifted multiple idols.
Are you a bad player because you get stuck on a tribe with worse players and have no one to help you.
@@daredevil2_074 I just said that if it’s “impossible” for you to win, you’re not a good player. You added all that other stuff.
@@abluraskin it’s basically impossible to win again because almost every player will see them as a threat and vote them out before the game even gets close to the end
@@daredevil2_074 so if you’re a great player you learn to mitigate your threat level. See Tony.
Why does it havr to be the jury who decides to win surviver? The person who can give the biggest sob story wins! This show is getting old... most people are salty and just dont want to vote for the epople who voted them out.
Change it up! Why not have them compete till he very end?. The person who wins challenges gets the money!?
Right now you can skate by not be a threat, say i need moneyand win? Kenzi didnt need the money first off, she owns her own salon. They make a lot of money. I dont think i can watch this anymore, they need to change up and make it fair ao people playing the game have a chance to win!
Eliminate all the stupid advantage, twist, and all the unnecessary stuff.
Keep it as simple and as original Survivor.
that is why the earlier Survivor winner still the best
That’s right bro
That HOF is a joke
What's impossible CBS is watching 27 minutes of crying per episode! If You bring back Banhu or Liz for S50 then we all quit watching. From spokesman for all african survivor fans! By the way why does South African Survivor always have a white majority? Its Africa, the ratio doesn't add up.. and why are 70% american survivor players gay or trans or whatever.. ratio also doesn't make sense! Be more like Australian Survivor! Bigger! Longer! Uncut!
Why do you have a problem with them including gay or trans people?
@@kyleemeg2171 I don't! I have a problem with the ratio. South African survivor for example is racist. Country with 90% black population shouldn't produce a survivor series with only 40 - 50% black people. Same with gay trans in America. At this point they represent less than 20% of the American population but get about 50% of the available slots.. it's not fair!
@@RoxxonUnderRage are you just assuming some people are queer? Because last season there was only 1 contestant that identified as LGBTQ….
This show is just a reality show.It has nothing to do with real survival. I enjoyed watching it though because I love picking apart that so many people have no clue what they're doing. The contestants have no idea how to survive nor would they ever for ten days much less thirty nine without the help of all of the rewards. This is just a so proper on an island.