Better Interview Audio | How to Mic Up 2 People With Booms and Lavs
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 10. 03. 2020
- Okay, you can handle a 1 person interview. What about 2?! Marlon and Andrew return on this episode of Sound 101 to show you how to get better interview audio and more specifically, how to mic up 2 people with booms and lavs. We cover everything from how to position the boom pole to make sure you have isolated tracks with no cross-talk (prevent audio bleed) to how to hide a lav behind a button!
Even though the results are pro, this is an affordable interview setup. We show you how to use a D3 Pro on a boom with the HD-TX. We also explain how microphone pickup patterns can work in your favor if you position your mics correctly and use the off-axis rejection to isolate your tracks.
Using redundancy lavs is always smart because it gives you options in post production. We show you how to use lavs to ensure you get great interview audio even when you have boom microphones too. Leave us a comment below if you have questions about interview audio!
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What are some lav hacks you've used in the past?
On a drama shoot, I had an actor who had no duologue until after he put his jacket on, his outfit was a becoming a pain to mic up and I took me a long time to realise I can mic up the jacket carefully before he puts it on. It ended up working super well and we had good audio once he had settled with it on.
Not an uncommon technique but I often find that if it's not feasible to mic a character up, such as when working with young children, difficult costumes or within tight time constraints. Placing a mic on a character opposite the actor with dialogue, in such a way that it is able to capture both actors can actually sound almost as good as if the mic was directly on the actor.
I just let it all hangout! I like to work very Brecht-ian. You're not fooling anyone, they know what their watching.
Deity Microphones I lavâd up a bride and groom and caught a precious interaction after they walked down the aisle, âwhat do we do from here, we didnât rehearse this far, wanna get out of here?â âSteven weâre marrriedddâ. I hid the mic on the dress for the bride, and in the collar for the groom. So helpful to watch your other video on hiding lavs!
One that I have done recently is using gaffer tape and taping the lav to the underside of a baseball hat bill to hide it and it gave a great signal for me to use.
Itâs impressive that we have this level of quality content for free. Enjoy, guys. No excuses to not learn.
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I've learnt ALOT from CZcams!
Thanks Marlon and Andrew - love the button and Joe's Sticky Stuff approach!
Everytime I find a good tutorial I see you in the comments :)
I know this doesnât have as much to do with capturing the audio but Iâd love to see a tutorial on some basic post mixing that you should do to all your audio. Like removing noise, how to use compression correctly, normalizing, etc. I have stuff I do but Iâm not sure if Iâm doing it correctly!
It would be great to see some tips and recommendations for working in situations where you have to move quickly and adapt to a variety of different environments, such as interviews or coverage at events. Things like how to keep gear light and easy to carry whilst having the right kit to adapt to unforeseen scenarios and how to get levels and framelines quickly without holding up the camera. Loving the content!
Over 20 years I do TV and video. Doing audio still is the hardest thing. Great videos you got! I learned a lot!
I'm so happy to have found this channel. Never to late to learn!!!
Double-dippin on the set? Smart. Dead battery trick. Nice! Boom sounds better of course. Can we have a lapel that sounds as good as the boom mic? You know, I'm not asking much. Just take a really good boom mic, like the S-Mic 2s, apply a shrink ray, and don't lose any of the dynamics. And WHAT??? Giving away the whole connect kit??? I have one, and WOW! Someone is going to be a happy camper! :)
Thanks so much all these guides, tutorials, comparisons, etc. Are soo helpful ! đ
Iâve been learning a lot with you guys! I would also love to see how would you go on recording a band and their instruments or only one singer with an instrument, would be really helpful.
Keep up the great work, we do appreciate the effort ! đ
My husband and I enjoyed your video. It has been very informative for us. You definitely took away the anxiety. You guys took the time to explain things so rookies like us can understand. Thanks and we will be looking for more videos
Wow! Just ran across your channel and this video was exactly what I was looking for! Very informative and very very well done! High production value! Just subscribed so please keep up the amazing content!
Iâm just getting starting in sound world and you should know how much your videos and content have helped me. Thank you for so much effort making these wonderful videos.
Greetings from Colombia.
Great video! Love the etiquette and lav miking hacks. Would love to see a video on mixing interviews like this (multiple mics) to fix potential phase issues and more. Keep âem coming!
I love the 101 series they're very informative and fun to watch too.
Imagine you have to mix a small band trough a PA system and also get the sound for the video with the ambience of the place and the crowd I would love to see your approach to this one.
Thx and keep up the good work.
Great video guys!
Seems like production sound gets so little attention these days so I am glad that you guys are pick up what has been lacking here on CZcams! I have watched so many of your tutorials!
Could you do a comparison and application video for boom mics with different pick up patterns, showing their differences, strengths, weaknesses and best uses?
Thanks again!
Awesome video! It would be amazing if you guys talked about deliverables (most used file naming protocol). There are so many things to keep in mind when delivering audio. You can also add the most commonly used platforms for delivering big or small audio files. I think organization extremely important. Explain the different kind of file formats used + everything that you can think of that has to deal with deliverables and file management.
Thanks!
Great video guys, thank you. Would love to see a video of how to perform an interview video outdoor in a busy/noisy public area, where the subject is also walking and talking. The sound recording techniques using the deity gear and how to properly set everything up would be so helpful to see
Man I just love your content. I literally went from deity skeptic to deity fan just by seeing how you guys legitimately care about the sound community. Please keep making content and great products! Also sidenote, where's that DIY BDS system video at we know yall have the sauce.
I love your content - but man whoever is doing the editing is freaking amazing.
I'm definitely trying the Lav Bullet trick next time, it's awesome! I would love to see a video where you explain when and how to use timecode in different situations like short films or corporative videos, from choosing the correct cable for the recorder/camera to adjusting FPS. Anyway, thank you, Andrew!
Nice work, as always! This channel is outstanding.
I would love to see a video breaking down the hardware differences between entry-level, pro-sumer, and pro-level microphones. Crack open a d3 pro, an s-mic 2, and maybe a fancy Schoeps or something and talk about the hardware differences, and how you guys are able to offer that level of quality at such a good price. Iâm trying to decide between the d3 pro and s-mic 2s at the moment and Iâd love to know more about the nitty-gritty component differences.
Iâm also eyeing a lav setup, so the same thing for the lav lineup would be awesome. Thanks!
Great job! I really like how u guys can make all those things so easily.
I would love to see how to mic/record a small band on live shows!
Rockin' the great channel Deity Microphones!
In documentary shoots for me its important to have as much stuff on a shoot possible, because youâll never know whats gonna happened, what type of clothing your talent would wear on, and, in some cases, when i hide a mic on talent, i just cant avoid some of clothing rustle, thats where boom mic comes in handy. In some cases, even when clothing doesnt make any noises, indoor boom mic can sound more brighter, more clear and more natural, so this video actually show that lav mic is not a only solution for interview, always remember - you only got one take - and thats it, so you wanna make shure that if something happenes to your wireless system during the shoot - you always got a nice, clean, wired boom signal thats gonna save you. Great videos, guys, love your stuff btw.
THANK YOU for a great overview - well done and most useful for me. I have a small home studio with good sound treatment. Also do interviews in the field post covid. Your tips help!
I would love to see a scene dialogue setup between 2 actors. Espacially if your a 1 man band & got to shoot it alone. This vid is close to what i'm thinking to setup for a scene. Good job on your tutorials. :)
Great job on the video, concise and easy to follow with excellent advice. Perhaps make a video on where the Sound Mixer would position themselves on set physically as this interview happens. For example they need to be on set close enough to make any quick changes if lighting changes need to happen. They need to be able to see the cameras and the director, and how would the sound mixer communicate to the producer that the frequency had interference or the talent squashed their Lav mic when they touched their chest. Thank you for mentioning about the sound blankets Andrew. I look forward to seeing the next video
Great Video! I recently purchased a Diety Duo to add to my inventory of mics. Your video helps me to better understand how to best utilized one and two person setups. However since you asked I would also like to see and application with a pod device like the Pod Trak 4
OMG, I'm watching this channel more and more - my most watched channel now. I think Deity is turning me into a sound geek :)
TNX your tipps are sooooo great !!!!!!!!
I would love to see you guys make a video on how to mix audio properly in post. For example how you said often times you would mix both the lav and boom mics together. That would be pretty cool!
Just discovering this August of 2020, and I love the presentation and production of this educational video. Itâs concise and easily digestible. What I would like to learn next is: how to do this kind of audio setup in our current pandemic protocols and guidelines? What nuances or obvious treatments and precautions should we be aware of when mic-ing up talent nowadays to ensure the safety and comfortability of our talent and ourselves?
Can you explain what would be the best workaround for post production if multiple people (video editor, audio post, etc) have to work on one edit? Thanks!
I would love to see some more videos on post processing. How to EQ different types of voices to sound best, best compressor settings, etc.
I'd like to see you go through a complete workflow for one setup.
Preparation pre shoot, decisions on location and workflow in post.
It would be really helpful to see how you approach every step.
What an amazing video! Just reposted for our students to take a look at. âđŹ
đ thanks! Great to hear you found it helpful!
Super thankful for this video !
Super useful, thank you!
This was absolutely stellar
Really enjoying the content guys!
I would love to see a video on lav micing talent in a scene where there is a lot of movement, (fast walking, erratic movement and possibly even running) also in different outfits/ materials. It would also be great to hear what each of the mic positions sound like whilst on the move, even techniques that aren't as good as others would be interesting to hear and compare.
Of course I'd also love a Connect interview kit! ;)
Great videos by the way ! love the content, another idea is how did they make the sound of the lightsabre in SW...how would a beginner go about it?
Definitely great advice on the BULLET, I can see where TSA would not be a fan of that LOLz...love your videos guys, Extremely informative awesome tips and tricks. I hope to put all of your suggestions and tips into practice with some interview videos I have coming up.
I really enjoyed the sound quality of this video! Well done! Guess I missed the giveaway... :P It was so funny when the male talent hit the plant leaf with his back :D
This is another excellent video in your series.
Now waiting on a video on a DIY Battery Distribution System for Sound Bags.
I love the content you guys dish out. What is an inexpensive way to do an interview? Best audio under $200
It would be fun (and helpful) to see how to boom in the rain. Pro and low budget comparison would be cool. Keep the videos coming please! You are all beautiful people!!!!
I'd love to see a video on miking and mixing a multiple-speaker event for livestreaming. Thanks for the informative videos!
awesome guys, great stuff!
The way Marlon's eyes drift off really make me wonder what he's thinking. Like, give Marlon his own series. I want to know this man! "The wonderfully wonderful world of Marlon." In all seriousness, good job fellas. Very informative.
Hey Andrew, love the series and am learning a lot. One thing I would like is a good explanation of "boom" in terms the people lump shotgun all together, when booming a shotgun mic can mean so much since the boom shotgun mic could be used for outside and that mic needs a wider pickup then booming a shotgun mike indoors for an interview. What I see as confusion is taking the pickup patterns (cardioid, super cardioid, omni), and lumping them all into "shotgun mike". Which then leads to the statement than many reviewers like to say as "xxx is the best shotgun mike for general purposes" ... I am confused just trying to write the question.
Love the videos!! Amazing content đ I would love to see 3 different levels of budgets for people wanting to start out into being an indie film sound mixer. What are some of the options available out there to best build an on-location kit from low, mid, to higher budget!
The sound of the supercardiod it's really awesome, do not tell the diference till you hear it side by side.
I would like to see a video for post production, for example what software do you guys use, or if you record to mono signals how do you edit, compression and more!
Great videos!
Thank you!
Hi just discovered your channel and this was super helpful. Hopefully this summer/fall I'm starting a passion project of interviewing veterans and was wondering if you guys had tips and tricks for finding the best, low budget, low number of equipment to get started.
Thanks for this, great work!
Awesome content!
I really like these videos you are doing. Great work! What I would like to see more is the type of "artist's secret tips" videos. Like the one, you have made in the past about Foley artist job. You actually doing and the professional guys teaching how to make good footsteps, cloth sounds, stab sounds or whatever. It is so valuable to see what those professionals use and what are their input on it. But I am sure they are as well interested to see novice people trying out the art and even bringing fresh ideas on the table in some instances.
These types of videos could be spread even wider like tips from foley, soundtrack, mixers, DJs and other professionals.
Hey guys! Since you've mentioned in this video the way to avoid mic bleed on set, can you show us how to work it in post? Also, can you use this same interview and show how to decide which mic to use and how to match them so there is minimal sound difference. Thanks
I would love to see a video of how to match different mics in post. Having to mix a lav to a boom because something went wrong and there wasn't a re-take done and your stuck...
Very helpful video! Can you do a video about setting up best mic audio for 4-6 person panel discussion on small, medium or, large set?
Wow this was exactly the video I was looking for!
How can I prevent radio interference between two different brands of 2.4GHz transmitters? In my Case, i have a Deity System and a Rode Filmmaker Kit. Other Point: I have noticed on my last short film that the Deity System causes interfering effects in my Zoom f4. What could be the reason for this?
This is one of the best videos I have watched for audio setup for a two person interview using a 3 camera setup. Thanks for this free course. Also, just the mention of ISO recording while it seems obvious to do, honestly I have seen people skip that 1 step and regret it latter. Taking the time to get great audio is important. I really appreciate the comments about making sure that the talent is comfortable. Letting people know what you are doing and why is smart. I have seen people let the talent mic themselves, they are not professionals and have know idea about placement and the tricks like the mic bullet or the battery hack. This is an amazing video and I will subscribe and look for more of your content and share with others I know. Also, are you still doing the giveaway? I am just watching this one and it is a year old but you didnât mention a time limit, only the best comment. đ
came here for audio found myself learning motion graphics.
kudos to the editing teamđ
Thank you so much for this video. As someone who has recentely become more involved in sound for audiovisual media, these are very helpful. FOR THE NEXT VIDEO: What is the best set up for recording inside a vehicle? To me that is something that is always a challenge.
Thku soo much.. bruh... Love u set and boom audio is best ... Thanku again ..
Thanks again for this awesome videos.
What about a series about postproduction for budget movies, in a small crew? How to record SFX/foleys, edit dialog, setup control room and other stuff like that. That would be great.
Love it! Can you explain the difference between a studio microphone and a shotgun microphone, and when one would be better than the other?
I am really trying to wrap my head around EQ. Both live mixing and post and would love a video with some tips, tricks, and advice!
That was a fantastic episode Andrew, one of the best⊠Maybe because Iâm just about to do a two person interview and I will need to get myself a Deity connect kit regardless whether Iâm the winner or not⊠LOL, Thanks for all your great content!
Thank you for also showing tricks for people not able to record iso tracks and are feeding sound directly to camera. Can you show us tricks you can use in high RF interferance areas to treat you space to help get cleaner rf for you wireless mics?
Good stuff. Perhaps a video on some on set horror stories and how you dealt with them? Either through preparation, quick thinking, or the... "fix it in post." Could be fun to learn how the pros deal with unexpected issues.
Awesome video as always, Only downside to the content you upload, is the Murphy's law concerning the fact that I always see them after they would have been useful LOL.
My question is: How would you approach a changing frame line situation(like a fast paced documentary, or dynamic narrative where the director is looking for an "authentic" occurrence that you could not plan ahead for) and how would you estimate the frame line without having "BOOM" screamed at you, while working in an ENG setup?
This was dope. I am so glad I came across this channel. Thanks a lot for all the tips and tricks.
I am just beginning in this world and it is a lot to take in but this was very clear and easy digestible. Haha
I think the lavalier audio was actually better than the boom mic. Both of them were great, though. Curious to hear if you guys also think the lavalier was better.
Iâd love to see more content for filmmakers that canât still afford all those cool devices... I was watering as I watched all that gear. I was saying to myself I need all of that... But at the same time, I realize I need to start slow and build and increase in gear as I go.
That said, another question is... what is the best and most versatile Deity gear to have if you are just starting?
Could you do a video about livestream audio and what are the best tips for getting great broadcast sound . Thank you so much I've learned so much by watching this channel
My newest go to are hair mics. They work especially well in a car if the talent is turning their head looking out windows left and right. Also work especially well on Found Footage style filming.
This was helpful a lot. How do you do your mic set for inside the car shoot with at least 3 people? and how do you capture audio for a wide shot?
i Would like to see videos about all the little secrets and important tips for filmaking audio. As well as postproduction basics. Thanks for all your videos! Greetings from Spain.
I study at a cinema school in brazil and you show here how important the sound department is on the final quality of a movie. When people think about cinema, the straight thinking is about cinematography and the actors. I'm happy that Deity has this initiative to introduce the technics of a good audio in a movie.
I would love to watch a video about setting up audio on sport scenes, like running, climbing, swimming...!! Sometimes the frame is too open and the boom doesn't make it. So, what we should do?
I just discovered this channel and find your content interesting. A Video on how to set up audio for event livestreaming would be interesting.
please do a video (videos) on the post production side of things of audio mixing for film
Could you make a video about the best full audio setup for your money and why each item is important and what the use for each item is? Or - could you make a video make a video about how to make your own wireless body pack system or the best budget wireless body pack system if itâs too hard to really make your own. Thanks for all the videos! Also, I was recently re-watching your boom pole buyers guide and saw that you mentioned a video about how to internally wire a non-internally wired boom pole but when I searched for this video, I could not find it. There also was no link in the description or (i) cards. Thanks for all you do for the audio and filmmaking community. Itâs a great help to have channels like you delivering quality educational content for filmmakers and audio people.
Thank you for the awesome video.
I loved the dead battery trick.
What's Joe's sticky stuff in Europe?
What lav mic was used on Solomon? Such a small lav.
Having said that, the booms had excessive background noise to them.
One last thing. I would have mentioned recording room tone.
Again, Thanks :-)
I would love to know what your best practice is for dealing with latency on wireless. My recorder has built in time code, but obviously if I'm recording both a wired boom and audio from my Deity Connect Lav the sound will be out of sync. Is there an automated way of dealing with this? Maybe I just need the interview kit so my boom can be wireless and have the same latency as well. Great content and great products guys!
Great stuff as always! I know you just covered set up for two and mentioned phasing. You guys had a nice set up and proper space to help fight against phasing. I run and gun a lot and try to do a single mic most of the time to avoid that. Unfortunately that doesn't always work. What's the best way to fight against phasing when you are not in that ideal studio/scene where you might be close to each other but a single mic won't do? Tips for pre show and post. Thank you!
Flip the polarity on one of the microphones. Run a 1000 hz sine wave through a speaker (or phone etc.) and listen to the combined (mixed) output of the two microphones. Adjust the placement of the microphones in the room until the combined output gets quieter. Once you've found the quiet spot, (turn off the sine wave) and flip the polarity back to normal. Your mics will be in phase alignment. Hope I explained that well.
I would love to see a video on a three person interview/panel for a live stream set up. Like say a cooking segment for a morning talk show for example.
It would be nice to see a tutorial about post production for 2 or more people interview in tight spaces where you inevitable get phase problems and you want to clean those problems. I have troubles when the talent overlaps each other, there is not much I can do that I know. Thank you for all these amazing content and products. Big fan of deity brand, switching slowly from rode to Deity.
I would love a video about recording audio for a two person interview outdoors please!
This is fantastic! Just the kind of info I was looking for. I would also love to see some tips for budget filmmaking. How to work off a single mic, single camera, single LED Light? It would be a challenge, but I'm sure there are some creative solutions out there. Thank you!
We did that. Check out this video czcams.com/video/wrQ-ophWY7Q/video.html
Great job guys, Now all I want to see is the BTS of what microphone set up you used in the making of this video... And an interview kit from DEITY on my doorstep of course đđ»ââïž
Next video please how best to set low and hi pass filter. If you could include best practice to eliminate unwanted noise such as handling, room reverb, traffic etc that would be much appreciated. Your series is great I have learned so much. Thanks Richard
Great Video.! What about a video on simple methods to more seamlessly cut together audio from Deity's different mics or even the same one from different locations... with the emphasis on "SIMPLE" ? I see a lot of indie content these days that does a great job matching the look of different shots and transitioning creatively between them.... but they often really seem to struggle with doing the same for their audio. Again, love what you guys are doing.
Love the production flow from set to post production...Any plug-ins you've used on your final mix and what's your standard capturing level (dBs) for indoor interviews?
I would like to see more on run and gun sound for Documentaries/short films i am making a documentary but I donât have the right sound gear for it is there a DIY Solution or what should I have maybe do a unboxing/review on your interview Kit
Iâd like to know more about tips for working at events like weddings or live performances, where there are so many different types of âproductionsâ and sometimes plugging into their mix has a lot of noise. How would you work around those issues of noise? Or what to do if the person mixing keeps changing gain or line levels, etc?
I would appreciate video on how to use timecode with your systems and different timecode options compatible with your products. Thanks
Iâd love to know about using colored lighting on a set to balance out the scene.
Hey Andrew great video. I do multi person interviews but end up using one boom in the middle of two people which never gives a great sound. Would love the opportunity to have a lav kit that will mic up two people. . In hope of winning I have pre ordered a roll of butyl . I love to be prepared just incase. đ thanks again for the great tutorial.
Perfecto, that's wht I was look for.
I'd be interested in seeing how you guys would set up a temporary/home VO and ADR booth with your gear. Maybe a collaboration with someone like Curtis Judd.