PRINCE RENATHAL UNNERFED! Wild cards UNBANNED! All REVERTS announced! Major RULE CHANGES!
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- Today we take a look at the latest Hearthstone patch that sees all the announced reverts for cards going to Wild, multiple cards unbanned and nerfed for Wild, as well as new event information and rule changes to Hearthstone!
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You know things are actually wild when the video is 12 min and not 8
Denathrius needs to get reverted too lol. When mage can go infinite on turn 7, I think they can afford to have a few decent 10 mana cards.
I actually can't believe they didn't revert Denathrius. Out of all the things you can do in Wild he's probably among the most tame things you could be doing lmfao.
Its a good thing they didn't revert him, there might be broken stuff in Wild, but we don't need even more.
I'm very sad about that. Denathrius Druid was my favorite deck ever
@@locogato3488 Denathrius wasn't broken even in standard lmao
@@Bruh-el9js I don't play Standard so I don't know. But in Wild it was really broken in Druid.
People who think denathrius would even be close to being broken in wild are delusional. They should have definitely reverted it
everyone is talking about denathrius not getting reverted. Jailer is rolling in an ever deeper grave.
also for the people that care: boon of the ascended, felscale evoker, wild growth (rip), from the depths and thori belore were reverted but not mentioned in patch notes.
To be fair, Jailer was toxic even in Wild (Due to Bolf/Mal'ganis shenans as opposed to the Standard Tony combo). While Denathrius was only really relevant in Standard.
Thank you! I do care, Thoribelore is much beloved and In the Depths is a fantastic card for warrior
@tarille1043 It was more of a meme. Those decks could lose if you cleared the minions with a hard removal clear which Wild decks have access to. Ironically, the best use of the Jailer is to blow up your own deck but Hemet already exists so he's not even useful for that lol.
You're right.
Now we'll never be able to play our bolf chombos again.
@@Bob_Bobinson RIP the only time Bolf was useful
Renathal will be as beautiful as the day they nerfed him
Preach, so glad he’s reverted. Maybe midrange and Reno control decks will actually be relevant in wild again. So happy
@@micahturner8297 reno shaman is one of the top decks in wild...
Happy stoic noises
my "fun-rouge" deck will be even more fun now that i get run down 14.26% slower
Except they forgor to revert Theotar. Now get ready for the toxic stuff to use it.
To all that tried to kill him... you succeeded
truly a tragedy
@@Bob_Bobinson trazeddy
@@CabbageYe no
He got what he deserved.
Mark already did the Switcheroo Darkness combo today many times :D
and sometimes at turn 4-5 too.
Already 5-0 with Rena Control Warrior. Welcome back Nellie. I missed you ever so much x
It feels like a detail but the fact that paladin has now multiple recruits arts i love it and it makes me want to play the class more
Gonna make a odd paladin just to enjoy it haha
Didn't get the drops in game..Connected to Twitch but no drops yet
Has anyone else noted that some achievements are dated for future dates? Multiple completed achievements I have are for dates in 2024 which haven't happened!
Malchezaars imp just needs to have a limit per times it can trigger in a turn, no need to make tome tampering so bad
Nah, rather nerf around the problematic cards then address those themselves
The imp was made in an era where hand discard was rare and not that great. Now that the archetype is not only good but we have decent hand dump, it's too toxic to keep as is. It's like Mechwarper. Eventually, it's going to need a hit.
@@GaussianEntity sure but that doesn't mean it isn't one of the strongest cards in this deck now.
I don't see why Blizzard leaves old but potentially problematic cards (looking at you shadow step, mane quest, ...) in their state and accepting tons of nerfs around those instead of adjusting the actual problem
@@nikostraub5975 Shadowstep is meh in Wild. It has its occasions when it's good but it's actually kinda tame. The Mage quest was clearly a mistake but they can't rework it or Mage won't really have anything left since they basically killed every archetype they had in the format.
@@GaussianEntity but shadow step can often cause problems. Sure it's not as problematic as the mage quest but they always have to design around it, especially in standard
great coverage as usual Zeddy!
amazing content as always zeddy man!
Thanks for keeping us up to date with HS. As I returned 2 days ago into HS after 2 years, I opened all my "forgotten" packs ; 40 regular packs, 5 returning-boosted-special packs (the ones containing up to 50 cards). And then, I realised the new expansion is coming in 7 days, so ..... rip the idea of having cards from the next expansion. It's a sad feeling when one does not pay attention. ^^'
I started playing about 3 weeks ago too. I stopped since 2019. I'm not sure if you know but you can dust your cards in the legacy section. I didn't know until yesterday that majority of the old cards are given free as a core set now and it really allowed me to create two more decks.
Not sure if it will still be great decks after expansion but Reno Warrior, Dragon Druid, Sludge warlock and Plague DK is what I used to climb to legend. I ended up high diamond when I started two weeks before the end of last month using control reno warrior and dragon druid. My versions are tweaked than what you can find on deck lists. But I added sludge, and plague this season and was able to break into legend.
Weird how they are going to "address" DH's Hearth hand yet the Mage one is still horrendously bad. It's good if you need exactly burn from hand to kill, but otherwise it is significantly worse than most other options I feel.
Hearth is usually played in desperation, and it usually isn't easy to play Alex even after MAYBE having Nova+Doom go off (that's if it even does).
Love the rule changes, also i'm so happy for the paladin recruits grat art
Pumped to be able to play pre nerf Renethal after so long
Happy bday hearthstone ❤
Literally yesterday, i was thinking about silver hand recruit should have other recruit design. Well there's the update.
I like it, though I wish there were some options that work with pre-existing Hero Skins, maybe an 'Engineer' style Recruit for my Sir Annoy-o, stuff like that.
Oh my god. You can start with 45 health in wild with Renathal and Cho’gall.
I noticed that they did not kill the XP from the achievements with this patch, but only added a couple new achievements. Zeddy may have all of the new achievements done on Day 1.
Yup, I noticed this as well, good. I can still finish some of them.
Does the change allow you to now stack Love Everlasting or not?
it should be able to.
This was a fun day. I enjoyed the stream! Arena was a blast but I have a conundrum: I’m trying to save gold to buy packs and don’t want to play Frankenstein Standard. I guess it’s time to learn Battlegrounds (yuk) but I really want to play Arena! 😭
LMAO I didn't know you couldn't do 2 auras until yesterday. It just never happened before. But I was in a card dump situation, and boy was I unhappy
I got all of the free drops in my twitch inventory, however, I am not getting them in game
The revert for renathal is that 5 hp boost right?
Why is no one mentioning that Wlid Growth revert? Was this mentioned anywhere? A few days ago I was playing 3 mana wild growth on 3 with Zeph. And now, it's 2 mana! Or am I super dumb?
I was shocked when i faced a paladin earlier w different dude art styles haha (this is what happens when you don’t read patch notes guys)
switcheroo to 2 mana: each player draws a minion swap their bodies.(mana health attack)
They have loaded new achievements as usual. But like only one per class and only 4 neutral ones. Maybe a bug. Because i was still able to get exp for one badlands achievement today after the patch. When they usually take away exp from older achievements after the patch.
Its not a bug, its mentioned in the patch notes that Badlands achievement will still grant XP, and the newer achievements will be less but grant more XP.
@@locogato3488 oh, i see, well, that's kind of bad. I mostly just do achievements these days. So, less of them is not good. Especially if most are tied to legendary and rare cards.
Please how do I get Prince Renathal? I just came back and It doesn't allow me to craft it.
Lunar deathwing portrait is still bugged feelsbad
Wild unbanned cards! What a time to be alive
Switcheroo you’ll need innerfire as the extra combo piece
Some of these updates sound great! I like the random favourite coin/skin so i don't have to pick a favourite child all the time!
Plus Renathal being 40 health again is soooo much better!
That nerf of tome is dumb. I was ok it not being in wild, but it is now unplayable in standard. It was great for sludge warlock.
I can't wait for yog to not randomly cast tome tampering in standard
He will cast Wheel of Death instead.
Do you know when you can do a gathering and open packs early?
they stopped doing that around half a year ago sadly
@@noanimationexpert3843 dang, thank you for letting me know
I am subbing both physically and spiritually
I like the rule change Zeddy, thanks!
Catch up packs are very good for players that want to play standard
🎉🎉10 years baby!
Zeddy, please can you make video, all unnerfed cards from March of Lich King ?
As someone who played when the game launched for a year or so and quit... Seeing all this.. not even gonna try to learn all these decks and mechanics. So overwhelming.😢
I haven't played since 2019. Started about halfway through February. I made two decks and made it to high diamond last month. This month I played with 4 decks and just made it to legend. The game has always been easy, if the game isnt using the algorithm against you to make you lose. Dónt let others tell you the game at times fixes the game, and it becomes frustrating. But it's rewarding when you win despite the algorithm being against you. I knew the game fixes games when they made it into a card. The fact the game has a card that knows exactly what you need on that turn depending on the board, your opponents and your health, and give you a choice of 3, that literally proves the game has an algorithm that knows what you and your opponent needs every turn.... If you ever played the game and it suddenly lags, the algorithm is working against you and it is eating up memory to give your opponent what they need and prevent you to get to your cards.
Dang my boy renathal is BACK, might check wild for a moment
You wont. Lol
You have a week to play unnerfed renethal in standard! So enjoy him while you can before he rotates
@@tristanward4309 OOH!
wild was actually quite qnjoyable when unnerfed renathal was around, castle nathria up to renathal nerf was the best wild meta since scholomance imo and you can't beat scholomance meta.
@@paciumusiu1225 tf are you talking about. Keep your "meta" talks out of wild it's the only place where some people don't just play the 3 same decks
They should make the tome be 3 cost in standard and 6 cost in wild! If cards can have different skin and the game knows which cards are allowed in which format and know how DK can only allow certain cards in a deck. IT WOULDN'T BE HARD TO PROGRAM CARDS TO HAVE DIFFERENT TEXT OR STATS DEPENDIN WHICH FORMAT.
THEY CAN LITERALLY JUST ADD AN IF STATEMENT LIKE THE CHECKER IF IT IS ALLOWED IN WILD OR NOT WHERE IT SET ITS STATS DEPENDING ON THE FORMAT! it would take less rhan 3 lines of codes of an if statement. If wild, set cost to 6 AND THATS IT.
I'm honestly not a fan of having multpile silver hands, I think it was fine as it is and this will take a bit away from the iconic piece but other than that its a pretty cool patch
looking forward to more renethal
Super solid quality of life patch imo
I quite like what they put in this balance patch
really wish denathrius got reverted too
Have y'all prepared Uranus for "Ah-hah..! I see you've brought guests." earr*pe at least half of the games?
honestly i am just so happy that the silver hand recruits have new art. that makes me wanna play a dude paladin again just to see em all xD
Finaly! The mana change was a no brainer
Im sooooo happy about the Renethal changes.
What about theotar? is he still 6 mana
Sadly yes. I hope people keep complaining about how much the format sucks because Renathal alone won't fix it.
Tome Tampering and Switcheroo getting unbanned is just a disaster waiting to happen
It has to happen to see how strong they are. Switcheroo might still need a hit. Tampering idk, 6 mana is very steep for that kind of effect in Warlock, we'll see.
Me: "Wow, big patch! Can't wait to finally see some cool changes to Duels!"
Also me: :c
Looks like im playing wild for Renathal
they nerfed Acolyte of Death without refunds?
Bot ban did nothing again. At diamond 4-5 rank 90% of opponents are named a color and then animal like "PurpleDonkey," and they all play basic core card decks badly, complete waste of time regardless of free win.
Go zeddyyyy gooo
Non diamond and not even legendary card art for collecting the legendaries is a huge L 😢
awesome
JUST ON SUNDAY NIGHT I just tweaked my sludge deck AND THE TOME WAS A GREAT ADD TO IT AT COST 3. HAD A GREAT 7-3 RUN. WENT TO SLEEP AND I WOKE UP PLAYING AND WAS SHOCKED IT WAS 6 COST. It compo so well with using the mech that destroys everything in your deck that didn't start there so i would destroy my sludge using that and combo it with tome for 3 mana at turn 8. Or combo it with the 4 mana sludge with my sludges i built up in my hand to heal up for 7 total mana and able to use more than 3 sludges. I can use about 5+ sludges in either turn 7 or 8. Then they nerfed it for 3 more MANA! JUST SO IT CAN BE PLAYED IN WILD IS SO DISGUSTING. Smh. I didnt know it couldnt be played in wild when i wanted to test it out, so i just F it and used it in wild witout testing it and it didnso well smh.
drops should last more days . im working cannot be online daamn
Lady S'theno will not get reverted?
It's an upgraded Flamewaker if it's unnerfed. There's no way that's getting reverted even if DH decks didn't use it previously.
The time has come, wild is fun again
Crusader Aura Into Crusader Aura GG
last week for prince R then he goes to oblivion
Not gonna lie I was low key hoping for a S'theno revert to see if she'd make the cut in the new naga DH for a week of absolutely unhinged naga spell drown! Naga spell drown!
Omg they did it
Zeddy have you lost some weight? Looking good man - thanks as always for the updates!
Everyone Zeddy Here!
I feel like Tome Tampering and Cataclysm should have been reverted to their original costs and effects, but with a different wording like 'destroy your hand' instead of 'discard your hand' since the real problem was with the interaction with Discard Warlock and the ridiculous burst turns with Fist of Jaraxxus and Soul Barrage. It would have kept the Discard deck nerfed while keeping the interactions of Cataclysm with Mecha'thun, or the potential of Tome Tampering as a greedy value card.
Also thank the gods for the return of 40 health Renathal
It was also amazing with sludge and THEY NERFED IT. I found it to be a 3 cost card that can get rid of all my sludge in my hand for 3 cost and also if I had that draw 2 cards no matter what, I get a copy of my hand for one cost and draw 2 cards when things lined up. Then again it's usually lethal if you're good and only needed one copy. Even better is add the mech that gets rid of cass that didn't start on your deck, and I can have 32+ damage in turn 8. With 8 sludge getting triggered... I just made the deck on Sunday, ran 7-3 that night and woke up playing and was dumbfounded when it was 6 cost and I couldn't do my combo. Didn't even care I couldn't play it in wild.
Imagine playing Denathrius in 2024 lol
Tome tampering should never have been nerfed
how does he get patchnotes early, thats not fair to other content creators
RENATHAL! My beloved
goodjov
Our boy Renathal never should have been nerfed :
At least we finally got him back.
He was nerfed for playrate, not because he was overpowered. Idk why Hearthstone does that. It's okay to have overplayed cards if they're not overly centralizing.
for real, but the nerf was healthy for the game. just remember how strong this will make priest and warrior decks now. priest is not that strong, but games will now take longer with those stall control :/
howeverrr, the fact that this enables some non-abusive decks to actually survive now it will mean wayyy more variety. allowing some decks to survive one more turn against rush decks will mean that paladin and hunter wont be always at the top. also this is indirectly good for demon hunter since now their OTK wont be nerfed as much like before, surviving an extra turn against OTK will be good
anyone else notice that Blizzard turned off the comment section(s) for patch notes, game updates, news, etc... a while ago? I just want them to fix the bugs that have been around for 2+ years lol.
is denatrius not getting reverted?
It was stupid in wild as well
not even draka or rogue location reverted sadly :/
@@DiabloTommaso it was strong definitely but it helped a lot of slower decks
besides with astalor now you're not going to run denatrius for the really stupid stuff
@@emreyildizgorer5790 they definitely should have reverted draka
the location if it didn't get stealth back would be a fine revert too
@@DiabloTommaso It was not. Druid would rather OTK you by stealing your deck and mill you than play Daddy D.
Prince Renathal finally being unnerfed is such a blessing for Wild. ❤🍀
Finally control, value and combo style decks have a much better chance of reaching the mid to late game against all these brain dead Hyper-Aggro-Decks that just vomit their hand on the board turn 1 and run your face down like Aggro-Shadow-Priest, Even Shaman, Pirate Rouge etc. 💀
Huge fan my boy Renathal is back!!! 👍
Nope. You still die to Mine Rogue early and will only encourage uninteractable combo decks. Hell, maybe Quest Mage comes back and starts winning on turn 5.
@@GaussianEntity mine is likely to struggle to kill you with the 40 hp and some armour
while quest mage is pretty slow so you have a lot of time to find a rat or something
@@Bob_Bobinson It will not. If done right, it does way over 40 damage, especially if they wait a turn since the opponent is playing 40 cards and likely won't see their disruption in time.
The best Quest Mage lists can start turn skipping as early as turn 5. While it is possible to disrupt the infinite turn, you also have to keep in mind that if they still have coins leftover, they'll go into the Rommath right after. That's why fast decks are its weakness. But that's not happening if Renathal stops aggro players.
@@GaussianEntity Dam so mine might still end up a problem. I just remembered the last time renathal gave 40 hp mine rouge struggled against that. Fair tho if it isn't the case anymore.
How would a quest mage take infinite turns on 5? The need rommath and he costs 9
Why only 1 day of watching. They should give you more time!
renathal reverted D: i guess wild will become the druid and shaman gamemode
Mine Rogue is still effective. You might have to switch to combo to avoid the slow decks though.
RENATHAAAAAL YESSSS
Make Zeddy go broke!
-We can play whatever we want!... (not mercenaries) rip
YEESSSSSS YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS
Finally I can play the game again, I was waiting for Renathal revert for so long!
UNNERF SNOWFALL GUARDIAN PLS
Blast make zeddy go broke!
And they left thaddius? Why not back to the original state where cards costed 1? The card will rotate and be forgotten about and left in this unplayable form
As it should be.
@@locogato3488 but why? It's rotating to wild and will be forgotten about
Too many ways to bring the 1 down to 0 in Wild. It would be the same problem in any form other than the current gutted one. Maybe they could've re-worked it for the 4th time, but I guess it didn't end up that way.
@@KnownAsKenji That doesn't work with its first wording. It hard set to 1 if I recall, even negating cards like Loatheb.
@@GaussianEntity nah, there are defo ways to bring it to zero, ive watched many mark videos to know such mechanic
I am so glad that they did NOT unnerf Theotar, Sire Denathrius, The Jailer and Thaddius.
The nerfs were really lazy though, Mechwarper should have been 2 Mana and have "Not less than (1)", Tome Tampering 3 Mana but remove the cards instead of discarding them, and Switcheroo could draw 2 minions and swap their Attack and Health, not with each other, but like Topsy Turvy.
As a Mech player, I feel like the 4/4 change is preferred, 'not less than 1' can brick your hand since you have 2+ other potential discounters bringing cards to 0. It's more playable at 4.
We're not. Those cards barely did anything in Wild except for Theo and Theo is basically what the format needs moving forward. The only reason Renathal decks didn't die to combo was Theo and y'all will learn that soon enough.
@@GaussianEntity We don't needs cards like Theotar that can instantly win games on their own just by luck, that's a really unhealthy design.
What Wild needs to move forward is more nerfs and to have them more often like in Standard.
@@locogato3488 Theotar is the least luck-based counterplay card that exists. The fact that you think it's luck-based just shows me that you don't understand why it's important to have it. It's the only counterplay that keeps up with the format. It also doesn't demand so many nerfs since skillful use of it keeps degenerate decks in check.
@@GaussianEntity While I agree that Theotar is less luck based than cards like Mutanus or Dirty Rat, there is no doubt that he still is luck based, unless your opponent's hand has 3 or less cards, in that case he is literally a cheat card.
And he doesn't require any skill, you just play him when you think your opponent has a combo piece, then hope to get lucky and win.
Instead of having degenerate counters to degenerate decks, it would be better if they just killed them with nerfs, as these decks like Mine Rogue or Time Warp Mage should not even exist.
If the only way to win against these combos is to use disruptions, that leads to toxic gameplay from both sides, you either lose to the combo or get lucky and instantly win against it.
Is this what you want Wild to be? Solitaire decks vs. lucky dice rolls?
They need to unnerf Patches or at least give it rush!
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I can't wait to not win the megabundle!
Renolock is great again !
If they gonna revert so many broken cards might as well revert them all. Let wild be wild
You obviously have never played Wild and don't know what it is.
Wild means that cards from all expansions are are playable. It won't be less Wild if they don't unnerf some overpowered cards.
these cards were a problem in standard not wild
why would they not revert them?
@@Bob_Bobinson Because some of them were also a problem in Wild. They reverted only the safe ones.