Animal Crossing - Ultimate Quick Comparisons

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  • The ultimate set of Animal Crossing quick comparisons! Updated for version 2.0, combined into one video, sorted into categories, and presented in quick, rapid-fire succession. And yes, there are some new comparisons as well!
    The five core, worldwide Animal Crossing games are compared and contrasted here: Animal Crossing (GameCube, 2002), Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo DS, 2005), Animal Crossing: City Folk (Wii, 2008), Animal Crossing: New Leaf (3DS, 2013), and Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Switch, 2020). Release dates listed are based on the American releases, and some may differ in other regions. Spinoffs such as Pocket Camp and Happy Home Designer are not included because they have a limited scope, don't operate the same way, and wouldn't make for fair comparisons in most cases.
    Comparisons by category:
    0:08 Starting Out
    0:36 Villagers
    2:46 Town & Shops
    3:56 Tools
    5:26 Museum & Catches
    6:23 Fruit & Flowers
    7:26 Features/Miscellaneous
    11:06 Events
    11:58 Special Characters
    17:46 Outro
    A couple of minor corrections:
    1:30 Villagers can ask to schedule a visit in City Folk, but it's rare.
    6:50 There are no roses on GameCube. (Thanks, corinaw9525!)
    16:50 Porter can appear in New Horizons if you use an amiibo.
    Music:
    0.00 Animal Crossing (GameCube) title theme
    0.08 1pm theme, GameCube
    2.35 5pm theme, GameCube
    4.57 11pm snow theme, WW/CF
    5.45 11pm snow theme, New Leaf
    6.45 5am theme, New Horizons
    7.48 9am theme, GameCube
    8.42 9am theme, WW/CF
    9.49 9am theme, New Leaf
    10.52 9am theme, New Horizons
    11.47 8pm theme, WW/CF
    14.15 9pm theme, WW/CF
    15.10 8pm theme, GameCube
    New Horizons info is current as of August 30, 2022...and is unlikely to change (barring an unforeseen future update to the game).
    Characters marked "amiibo only" require an amiibo card (or figure) and include appearances at the Roost, Photopia, and in the Happy Home Paradise (HHP) DLC.
    Regarding villager counts: Many sites report a total of 399 villagers in New Leaf. However, they are wrongly including Filly and Holden, who only appeared as campers (not villagers) during a Japanese promotion. As for New Horizons, the six amiibo-only villagers are the Sanrio card villagers (Chai, Chelsea, Etoile, Marty, Toby, and Rilla).
    About the villager personality types, the original six are jock, lazy, cranky, peppy, normal, and snooty. The two types added in New Leaf are smug and sisterly (aka uchi).
    For "currency used," I only included currency that was used in-game. So I left out the Nook Points from the Nintendo Switch Online phone app, since they are not used in-game. And I included Play Coins for New Leaf, because they are used to buy fortune cookies in-game, even though they're not acquired in-game.
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  • @jvgsjeff
    @jvgsjeff  Před rokem +620

    A couple of minor corrections:
    1:30 Villagers *can* ask to schedule a visit in City Folk, but it's rare.
    6:50 There are no roses on GameCube. (Thanks, corinaw9525!)
    16:50 Porter *can* appear in New Horizons if you use an amiibo.

    • @maxpowers6738
      @maxpowers6738 Před rokem +12

      Villagers can also remember you if you invite them to the Roost using their amiibo card.

    • @jupilian
      @jupilian Před 11 měsíci +1

      im not sure about nl at 8:31

    • @jupilian
      @jupilian Před 11 měsíci

      iirc you just need to spend 10k bells on clothes

    • @timohara7717
      @timohara7717 Před 8 měsíci +1

      " 11:04 umm actkually da pley koins cent cound if mook boints drond cound" 🤓👍

    • @e312312
      @e312312 Před 8 měsíci

      Redd DOES sell Forgeries in Animal Crossing (GameCube) if I recall correctly, I remember distinctly Blathers would reject paintings if he found they were forged. You can't tell, either.

  • @yeetyeet3279
    @yeetyeet3279 Před rokem +5673

    Getting rid of the ability for past villagers to remember you after they leave the island is pretty stupid

    • @ericonion3561
      @ericonion3561 Před rokem +73

      :(

    • @arcanine_enjoyer
      @arcanine_enjoyer Před rokem +891

      It's heartbreaking when you see them again somewhere like on an island tour and they just act like they don't remember you

    • @mochixmelodii
      @mochixmelodii Před rokem +324

      @@arcanine_enjoyer I did that once and saw Apple. I had to kick her off for new villagers and I was heartbroken when I saw her. Not sure if she remembered me or not

    • @totoshampoin
      @totoshampoin Před rokem +344

      I remember in Wild World, villagers could leave your village to join a friend's. So if you visited said friend, said villager *would* remember you
      Afair

    • @LunaMinuna
      @LunaMinuna Před rokem +42

      I know when Phoebe came back she completely forgot me 😭

  • @SlamBolts
    @SlamBolts Před rokem +5501

    I feel this entire video was made with the only purpose of calling out NH's tool durability and I'm all in for it.

    • @yveltalsea
      @yveltalsea Před rokem +246

      @donkey Kong country master agree, as a decoration game it rocks but, as an animal crossing title, it's incredibly sad.

    • @spiritif
      @spiritif Před rokem +103

      @donkey Kong country master Breaking tools is painful, i love ACNH but i still prefer new leaf or Lesgo to the city because of random events like chip market or idk, and musics in new horizons are annoying unlike the musics in lesgo to the city so i understand why you think that

    • @jamesdinius7769
      @jamesdinius7769 Před rokem +42

      Why, oh why has Nintendo decided this is a good idea ( looking at YOU BoTW).

    • @m4rcyonstation93
      @m4rcyonstation93 Před rokem +19

      @@jamesdinius7769 BOTW is fine tho
      Havent played NH tho (this vid just showed up idk why)

    • @int0k410
      @int0k410 Před rokem +61

      Its baffling, its infuriating, its upsetting, its disturbing, its annoying, its awful, horrible+horrendous

  • @treacherous-doctor
    @treacherous-doctor Před rokem +4790

    All previous AC games: Golden tools are a deserved reward for completing a very difficult task in the game, and therefore do not break. In some cases, collecting the golden tools includes certain benefits, such as the golden net having a larger catch radius than the regular nets. There is no reason for golden tools to ever break.
    New Horizons: haha crafting mechanic go brrr

    • @yournightmare7891
      @yournightmare7891 Před rokem +180

      Well technically the recipes for the golden tools are a deserved reward too since you still have to complete the bug/fish collection, get 5 stars etc

    • @yournightmare7891
      @yournightmare7891 Před rokem +241

      But I do agree that the golden tools do not have a special function in new horizons and we could live without them

    • @treacherous-doctor
      @treacherous-doctor Před rokem +10

      @@yournightmare7891 fair enough I guess

    • @astr0_f3tching
      @astr0_f3tching Před rokem +249

      I think they do have a LITTLE more durability, but wth is the point if they are not infinite.

    • @nursemain3174
      @nursemain3174 Před rokem +40

      @@yournightmare7891 getting 5 stars is easy, literally u can just dump loads of furniture on floor and the bugs and fish stuff isn’t hard either

  • @armintargaryen9216
    @armintargaryen9216 Před rokem +1934

    If anything the golden tools breaking make even less sense in NH than in the others. Like, the early game is designed to craft a lot, but then you depend on it less and less as you keep on playing. The golden tools should be a reward in itself because you have reached late game and you can return to traditional AC mechanics

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 Před rokem +21

      Not like you really can’t after a while you get most of what you want for your house and buy basically everything else
      Especially when you just have a spare 20,000,000 in the bank you’re not going to use for anything really

    • @black.8710
      @black.8710 Před rokem

      Love ur user

    • @catscanhavelittleasalami
      @catscanhavelittleasalami Před 3 měsíci +36

      Plus it's not like unbreakable tools would render the crafting system useless. You can still use DIY tables to make items, food and clothes. It's just so baffling to me that they made golden tools breakable.

  • @superv01d
    @superv01d Před rokem +1594

    the decrease in fruit variety from new leaf to new horizons and the absence of perfect fruits makes me so irrationally sad. not like it’s important, but i miss having lemon trees. wonder why they got cut.

    • @triple3slash5
      @triple3slash5 Před rokem +171

      I'm guessing the economy. With so many fruit varieties, mystery islands have a far higher chance to have a non-native fruit in abundance, and other sources like friend islands would also make fruits the money making meta.
      That said, considering they made DIY cooking a thing I'm still pissed about it.

    • @GacktsBigTiddies
      @GacktsBigTiddies Před rokem

      Lowkey tho

    • @bragny
      @bragny Před rokem +98

      I miss perfect apples. That red glittering apple looked like from a fairytale. Apples were my favourite fruit specifically because of how the perfect fruit looked.

    • @triple3slash5
      @triple3slash5 Před rokem +14

      @@bragny profile picture checks out

    • @misteryA555
      @misteryA555 Před rokem

      Lemon whores kept stealing the lemons, so they had to be removed from the game :(

  • @jkazos
    @jkazos Před rokem +3946

    The tools breaking part gave me a sensible chuckle.

    • @The9thLetterOfTheAlphabet
      @The9thLetterOfTheAlphabet Před rokem +257

      Do golden tools break?
      GameCube: nah
      Wild World: that is stupid!
      City Folk: It defeats the purpose!
      New Leaf: OF COURSE NOT, New Horizons?
      New Horizons: O-O

    • @cathygrandstaff1957
      @cathygrandstaff1957 Před rokem +161

      I remember when everyone held off on doing ax things until they could get the golden ax specifically because it wouldn’t break. Now all golden tools break.

    • @princessstar512
      @princessstar512 Před rokem +72

      It’s definitely the funniest part of the video. Plus it’s pretty damn accurate let’s not lie.

    • @princessstar512
      @princessstar512 Před rokem +17

      @@The9thLetterOfTheAlphabet New Horizons got some explaining to do!

    • @IwillloveY4ever
      @IwillloveY4ever Před rokem +71

      I would have like after you broke a certain amount of tools, Cyrus would teach you how to make them unbreakable, and it not like tools can't break, I keep thinking my vaulting pole is going to break, but it never does and it baffles me to such a degree as to why they thought this was okay.

  • @sven
    @sven Před rokem +2201

    I think it’s still incredible how much stuff they crammed on a small ds card

    • @sosigonal
      @sosigonal Před rokem +190

      Ironically it is not even one of the biggest DS games. It perfectly could have been an even bigger game so I wouldn't be surprised if many of Wild World's ideas throughout development were cut and carried over to City Folk in order to not make both games very similar to each other. This is just a theory though, I recall Wild World being an early DS title so games that truly pushed the DS to its limits hadn't really been released yet and devs were probably getting used to working with the system so they probably wanted to keep it safe when jumping from a powerful console like the GameCube to the weaker DS.

    • @DryPaperHammerBro
      @DryPaperHammerBro Před rokem +37

      @@sosigonal Pokémon Generation 5 is, fun fact

    • @sosigonal
      @sosigonal Před rokem +30

      @@DryPaperHammerBro I already knew that. Isn't BW2 like 256 or 512 or something. Absolute unit regardless. There's also an Animal Crossing-like in the DS which is way heavier too.

    • @DryPaperHammerBro
      @DryPaperHammerBro Před rokem +7

      @@sosigonal All 4 games are 512MB

    • @sosigonal
      @sosigonal Před rokem +3

      @@DryPaperHammerBro I'm more than certain the original BW is way lighter

  • @spiritif
    @spiritif Před rokem +452

    4:12 i still don't understand how watering cans can EXPLODE after you watered a flower

    • @NotASovietSpy1
      @NotASovietSpy1 Před 2 měsíci +20

      Must've lined it with sodium

    • @iexist_nt
      @iexist_nt Před měsícem +11

      ​@@NotASovietSpy1tom nook set you up

    • @Hydro_Waterbottle
      @Hydro_Waterbottle Před měsícem +2

      @@iexist_nti think i set myself up

    • @DJhero5001
      @DJhero5001 Před 29 dny +6

      Well, we are playing a character who can break rocks open after eating a piece of fruit. Perhaps they're gripping the can too hard?

  • @princetbug
    @princetbug Před rokem +627

    can we just acknowledge what a crime it is that the night owl ordinance only changes the closing time by *one hour* now?

    • @solarprogeny6736
      @solarprogeny6736 Před 2 měsíci +26

      capitalism got worse, so night owls are being more discriminated against

    • @alphakowaclips
      @alphakowaclips Před měsícem +3

      The one hour really hurts me 😢

  • @NightTheKittenn
    @NightTheKittenn Před rokem +2042

    The obsession with the crafting mechanic in ACNH is i think part of what killed it for me. I don’t want to have to craft recipes i just wanna buy stuff for my house.

    • @msmith1613
      @msmith1613 Před rokem +212

      Yeah like... all power to the people that like the DIY stuff, I get it, but honestly for me it's so tedious and annoying...

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 Před rokem +194

      Crafting in general is overdone not every game requires you to squat in a bush for an hour and craft jagged bottle and matches to crafter thermonuclear armourment

    • @Luxurious_count_levi
      @Luxurious_count_levi Před rokem +157

      Legit like I'm sorry I asked for animal crossing not a watered down crafting sim

    • @razrv3lc
      @razrv3lc Před rokem +84

      It wouldn’t be so bad if the crafting system wasn’t so horrendously bad.

    • @B0BBYJ4CK
      @B0BBYJ4CK Před rokem +145

      Ya know, I don't think enough people are saying this but....
      Animal Crossing New Horizons is pretty mediocre. New leaf was my first AC and THE ONLY ISSUE I had with that game was you couldn't choose your skin tone...manually. You had to go through this over-complicated process of tanning your character for 30 minutes a day for some reason.

  • @maxpowers6738
    @maxpowers6738 Před rokem +1031

    Correction: At 16:51, New Horizons does have Porter, but he's an amiibo only character. Didn't know if you knew that.

    • @cyanified
      @cyanified Před rokem +30

      i cant believe they made porter into marketable playing cards

    • @ShortMiao
      @ShortMiao Před 23 dny

      ​@@cyanifiedThey're not even playing, they're just cards

  • @juhbubby
    @juhbubby Před rokem +897

    Fun Fact for 7:11
    The Lily-of-the-Valley was in every AC game. However, (Prior to New Horizons) it was deemed as a Jacob’s Ladder and not a Lily-of-the-Valley, as a Jacob’s Ladder is the flower’s one of many aliases.

    • @The9thLetterOfTheAlphabet
      @The9thLetterOfTheAlphabet Před rokem +7

      The lily of the valley is so common for me

    • @GrandCorsair
      @GrandCorsair Před rokem +63

      Probably didn't want kids googling Jacobs ladder.

    • @Bob-bs9ok
      @Bob-bs9ok Před rokem +1

      @@GrandCorsair what's wrong with a jacob's ladder

    • @GrandCorsair
      @GrandCorsair Před rokem +27

      @@Bob-bs9ok
      The movie
      The plant
      The toy
      The exercise
      Or the genital piercing?

    • @Bob-bs9ok
      @Bob-bs9ok Před rokem +17

      @@GrandCorsair with the piercing I stand corrected (though only when used as a genital piercing)

  • @chillfactory9000
    @chillfactory9000 Před rokem +218

    Whats up with AC for GameCube being like "Yeah, he'll definetly wanna go into the Able Sisters at 2AM."

    • @Galdr
      @Galdr Před rokem +35

      Never know when a villager wants to pick up that last minute shirt to buy for an outfit the following day, lol.

    • @chillfactory9000
      @chillfactory9000 Před rokem

      @@Galdr True, LOL

    • @Nesdude42
      @Nesdude42 Před 4 měsíci +16

      Man as a night owl I did all the time 😆 I loved it

    • @acceptableconvo
      @acceptableconvo Před měsícem +2

      it's great for when you're painstakingly recreating a shirt pixel by pixel for hours at the able sisters so you get a matching umbrella and dont have to carry around a shirt in your inventory.

  • @dorka4626
    @dorka4626 Před rokem +423

    FUN FACT: In the GameCube/Original Animal Crossing game, you'll occasionally see a soccer ball, a basketball, or a beachball around town. You can bump into it and kick it around- if you do so near a villager, they can even kick it around with you for a short while!
    I personally love the OG game, mostly because I grew up with it, but I love how rude the villagers can be. Not to mention that it feels more socially engaging. The festivals were more interactive imo, plus there was a greater variety of them! As much as I love New Leaf and New Horizons, I feel like taking those previous GameCube aspects and fine-tuning them for the modern games would just absolutely rock.

    • @theallknowingsause8940
      @theallknowingsause8940 Před rokem +63

      If you have a bad relationship with a villager and you are in the same space on the map as them outside their house, they'll quickly run inside the house and shut the door, lol.
      I really wish somebody could just retool the original game and add a couple quality of life features, it's almost the perfect animal crossing game imo, haha

    • @six_buck_dlc
      @six_buck_dlc Před 4 měsíci +10

      i feel like in new horizons they felt the rudeness would turn people away, with this new generation flipping the markets, but imo it adds more life to the world

  • @iamjohnporter67
    @iamjohnporter67 Před rokem +532

    2:02 Correction with ACNH. You can use their amiibo card to invite the villager who used to live on your island at the Roost. The thing is in order for this to work the villager must move out of your island first and then invite them the next day once they are out of your island and you'll see them at the Roost and they will remember you.

    • @mjanmarino
      @mjanmarino Před rokem +32

      That's a sweet detail.

    • @Cloverthecat
      @Cloverthecat Před rokem +3

      Ayy

    • @TAYBR00K
      @TAYBR00K Před rokem

      I was about to say that but I had to check if someone else already pointed that out.

    • @hotsexyangel
      @hotsexyangel Před rokem +5

      True. But they don’t remember you on Nook Mile islands or on friend’s islands :(

    • @iamjohnporter67
      @iamjohnporter67 Před rokem +5

      @@hotsexyangel That is true with the nook mile island but on a friend's island it depends. If your friend recently got your villager that was moving out "in boxes" and they went to your island to get them then and only then they will remember when you visit your friends island.

  • @KellyHodder
    @KellyHodder Před rokem +890

    I didn’t realize just how many characters NH made amiibo only until watching this. The game’s always felt kind of empty (esp after unlocking terraforming and redoing your island) and I think the lack of characters from previous games is partially why. Great video!!

    • @voidoflight2420
      @voidoflight2420 Před rokem +171

      Yeah, New Horizons is fairly empty compared to New Leaf. The villagers are more mindless and don't really do as much as they did in New Leaf, the Holidays are more underwhelming and there's a lack of region specific smaller holidays, there's an absence of so many characters which made the games good in the first place, etc.

    • @sayanskywolf13
      @sayanskywolf13 Před rokem

      @@voidoflight2420 villares in new leaf are just as braindead as they are in NH, same thing with city folk
      wild world and gcn villagers were amazing

    • @gamebossje5818
      @gamebossje5818 Před rokem +7

      The updates keep on coming and last few they added tons of old characters so who knows

    • @voidoflight2420
      @voidoflight2420 Před rokem +84

      @@gamebossje5818 The big updates are pretty much over. Nintendo said as much. They're just repeating and recycling items.

    • @gamebossje5818
      @gamebossje5818 Před rokem +7

      @@voidoflight2420 that sucks, big updates were amazing

  • @AntforceYT
    @AntforceYT Před rokem +435

    It’s so weird! Because the tools break in New Horizons, I keep expecting the wet suit to break😂😂😂

    • @mrlaz9011
      @mrlaz9011 Před rokem

      what if your wet suit could break? would you just drown?

    • @goldegreen
      @goldegreen Před rokem +80

      And the vaulting pole! Sometimes I'll pre-craft tools so that I'll have a stock for when they break, and often accidentally include vaulting poles in those. I use them a lot because bridges are expensive.

    • @sawk1875
      @sawk1875 Před rokem +31

      Oh god imagine thet
      You swimming out to sea, do some diving, then poof, you cant swim anymore 8(

    • @Qwerty-zj3rk
      @Qwerty-zj3rk Před rokem +10

      @@goldegreen if you have access to the terraforming tools, you can make you own bridges by just filling in water with grass. That’s what I do.

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy Před rokem +1

      but...that's not a tool???

  • @nalaxysketches8519
    @nalaxysketches8519 Před rokem +1582

    It's baffling that New Leaf had more fruits than New Horizons, let that sink in.

    • @sosigonal
      @sosigonal Před rokem +253

      No perfect fruit either

    • @HollowAshes747
      @HollowAshes747 Před rokem +159

      @@sosigonal i miss perfect fruit ngl

    • @theoneandonlyever
      @theoneandonlyever Před rokem +255

      i find it so ridiculous because it's all about tropical island living!!! and then we didn't get tropical fruits!! i was here thinking they'd add them with the cooking update and they didn't. so disappointing

    • @neuronecrosis
      @neuronecrosis Před rokem +1

      fuck does that sink want this time

    • @bragny
      @bragny Před rokem +47

      @@HollowAshes747 It's comparatively such a small thing but I miss perfect fruit soo much 😭

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 Před rokem +114

    Everybody complaining about the Golden Tools and I’m out here mad at only 36 Gyroids

  • @555redkid
    @555redkid Před rokem +509

    It’s depressing to see main series characters get demoted to just: amiibo. What might’ve been… 😪

    • @SylverScourge
      @SylverScourge Před rokem +21

      At least amiibo are extremely easy to forge

    • @chillfactory9000
      @chillfactory9000 Před rokem +7

      I miss Blanca and Shrunk, man :/

    • @miraijinlovesyou
      @miraijinlovesyou Před 4 měsíci +8

      Nintendo, you've got to fix this in the next Animal Crossing game, or I'm never moving on from New Leaf!

  • @maisahpng5671
    @maisahpng5671 Před rokem +85

    I’ve always found it weird that frogs don’t hold umbrellas, but octopus villagers do…

  • @ColinN17
    @ColinN17 Před rokem +159

    4:06 I can’t with this and the golden tools! 🤣

    • @iamjohnporter67
      @iamjohnporter67 Před rokem +54

      Whoever came up with the idea that Golden Tools can break should be fired. After all that hard work it just feels like waste.

    • @Irreve-rsible
      @Irreve-rsible Před rokem +32

      @@iamjohnporter67 Whoever thought of tools breaking in general should be, I have to use like 3+ fishing rods in my inventory.

    • @bobtheanimator8353
      @bobtheanimator8353 Před rokem +3

      @@iamjohnporter67 yes because using the same shovel for the 1529th time won't break it in real life

    • @MarcusTalks1
      @MarcusTalks1 Před rokem +12

      @@bobtheanimator8353 it’s not that tools break now (although I’d like you to explain why my watering can just exploded because I watered too many flowers) it’s that they’ve made how you use them worse, like the way you move and get rid of flowers now requires a shovel and digging up flowers will break your shovel, and now that the flowers can’t die they reproduce at such a rate that using a shovel is too much. Also the old fashioned bug/fishing tourney format works better with breakable tools than the new timed format, which makes this thing that got changed to be more stressful already even more stressful if your only tool to do that timed event breaks. They made everything about using tools worse for the durability of the tools than before, even though tools didn’t break before (except the axe).

    • @spiritif
      @spiritif Před rokem +8

      @@MarcusTalks1 When i started the game i was annoyed by the fact that tools were breaking, but when i got watering can i was asking the question to myself "Watering can can't be detroyed by wetering flowers, right ?" but idk how it EXPLODES

  • @mistysidorov189
    @mistysidorov189 Před rokem +803

    I still feel like New Leaf is superior. I don't know why. Maybe because I wasted so many hours on it 😂

    • @sayanskywolf13
      @sayanskywolf13 Před rokem +28

      new leaf is just new horizons without terra forming, and in order to put stuff outside you have to pay ridiculous amounts of bells and wait a day each time...
      new leaf is worst...

    • @mistysidorov189
      @mistysidorov189 Před rokem +328

      @@sayanskywolf13 The interactions are better, the holidays are more plentiful and your golden tools don't break. I don't think I agree.

    • @TheMemessiah
      @TheMemessiah Před rokem +235

      @@sayanskywolf13 There are so many reasons why New Leaf is the better Animal Crossing game, but I've gotta get ready for work, so I don't have time to explain. In general, it's a better life sim. New Horizons has its merits but it's less of a life sim and more of a god sim, or like a dollhouse simulator. None of the world around you has any autonomy and that actively worsens the experience.

    • @yasmineh.1333
      @yasmineh.1333 Před rokem +20

      @@TheMemessiah It depends on what you look for in the games tbh. I'm looking forward to getting a copy of New Horizons because I like decorating in videogames.
      New Leaf became unplayable for me after a year.

    • @goldegreen
      @goldegreen Před rokem +110

      New Leaf has better music and pacing

  • @Peach_C_Toadstool
    @Peach_C_Toadstool Před 5 měsíci +35

    Every other game: Here's your golden net that we care enough to personally hand over
    New Horizons: we'll send the recipe in the mail

  • @potatopie1696
    @potatopie1696 Před rokem +37

    The bank account interest paid out going down in later games is the most realistic part of these games

  • @inklingsquid4688
    @inklingsquid4688 Před rokem +112

    That golden tool clip is incredible, so true and amazing

  • @squidgirl3327
    @squidgirl3327 Před rokem +187

    I miss when everyone had similar roles. I hate how in the newer games it’s first come first serve and nobody else gets the cool stuff.

    • @valexcx
      @valexcx Před rokem +6

      What do you mean

    • @squidgirl3327
      @squidgirl3327 Před rokem +59

      @Ultravalex In new horizons and new leaf, the first character to join the game is the mayor or resident representative, and any player on the same console who joins after will notch have access to as much as they do.

    • @uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh0
      @uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh0 Před rokem +43

      I feel like its worse on ACNH because its not like you can just use different save data or use a different cartridge

    • @deezgod45
      @deezgod45 Před rokem +10

      @@uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh0 nah fr, and it’s not like buying another switch is easy. I got stuck with being a villager only so all i can do is decorate my town 😂

  • @bugmeat9675
    @bugmeat9675 Před rokem +757

    New Horizons feels like a shell. It's so focused on your player that it forgets about the npcs.

    • @KlutzyNinjaKitty
      @KlutzyNinjaKitty Před rokem +139

      Exactly. The series has always been about community but NL and NH have really shifted it into a dollhouse/dress up game. Which, I wouldn’t mind if the villagers still had some personality/variance between each other besides aesthetics.

    • @squeen666
      @squeen666 Před rokem +119

      New horizons feels more like a decoration simulator with extra steps than an Animal Crossing game

    • @SylverScourge
      @SylverScourge Před rokem +95

      @@KlutzyNinjaKitty damn don't diss NL like that. It at least felt like a game.

    • @KlutzyNinjaKitty
      @KlutzyNinjaKitty Před rokem +61

      @@SylverScourge - Hey, don’t get me wrong. I LOVED NL! It’s still a great game, it did a lot considering it was on a handheld, I played it the most, and most of my favorite Villagers were introduced in that game.
      It just happens to be the early beginnings of some of the design philosophies we have in NH. Mainly the concept of the player having significant say over how the town looks via community projects, gardening, and custom tiles + being able to set ordinances to suit the player’s needs. Compare this to the older games where you didn’t have a lot of influence so you felt more like an actual resident of a pre-established town rather than the lord/lady of the land.
      Also, NL was the start of more shallow villagers. I’m on mobile and don’t have the exact title right now, but there’s a great (slightly older) video that specifically gets into the villager mechanics of each game. I’ll see if I can re-find it and paste the title here in another reply.

    • @KlutzyNinjaKitty
      @KlutzyNinjaKitty Před rokem +24

      @@SylverScourge - Found it! It’s called “The Evolution of Villagers in Animal Crossing” by Tama Hero. It’s a bit long, but give it a watch/listen next time you’re doing a craft or gaming. That’s what I do with long videos, lol

  • @MelissaDeCelestial
    @MelissaDeCelestial Před měsícem +5

    2:03 In ACNH your villagers can remember you and see you if you take them to the Happy Home Paradise DLC

    • @GamingPretzel116
      @GamingPretzel116 Před 24 dny

      They’ll also remember you if you invite them to the Roost using amiibo😊

  • @Sapphaura
    @Sapphaura Před rokem +670

    For the next game, they should combine the best aspects of the previous ones

    • @shaobues
      @shaobues Před rokem +113

      Ninteno's version of Best is a little funny

    • @vampyroteumint
      @vampyroteumint Před rokem +58

      what makes you think they'd ever do that

    • @maxssafeplace782
      @maxssafeplace782 Před rokem +28

      Are you hired by nintendo yet???? That is the best idea they could've asked for!!

    • @greeniegringolrg6576
      @greeniegringolrg6576 Před rokem +75

      That's what a sequel is always supposed to be :(

    • @vanilla8956
      @vanilla8956 Před rokem +49

      That was called New Leaf

  • @SleepyBoi216am
    @SleepyBoi216am Před rokem +99

    Things I wish they would bring back include Flea Day (because some of my villagers have furniture I want), violets, carnations, the special island fruits (so much potential for crafting and cooking recipes), unbreakable golden tools (because why can they break? Either buff the drop rate of gold, or male the gold tools unbreakable)
    Nintendo is so picky with what they bring back, even though it takes years for them to put out for certain franchises.

  • @user-xi6es4wt7t
    @user-xi6es4wt7t Před rokem +106

    It surprised me how much animal crossing gcn holds up in these categories

  • @BeccaPuff
    @BeccaPuff Před 4 měsíci +16

    New Leaf will likely forever be the definitive Animal Crossing.
    I grew up mostly with Wild World tho.

  • @saradelmoro1492
    @saradelmoro1492 Před rokem +85

    It's all right!
    But a correction:
    Can villagers leave your town withouth your permission?:
    Animal crossing: yes
    Animal crossing Wild World: yes
    Animal crossing city folk: yes
    Animal crossing new leaf: yes
    Animal crossing new horizons: no

    • @lizthewolfhog5613
      @lizthewolfhog5613 Před rokem +20

      I hated it when my fav villagers left without a reason only bc i havent played and talked to them in wild world

    • @saradelmoro1492
      @saradelmoro1492 Před rokem +5

      @@lizthewolfhog5613 it's happened to me too, my favorite villager has leaved my town because i don't play in wild world...

    • @saradelmoro1492
      @saradelmoro1492 Před rokem +1

      But in new horizons it can't happen because this problem is been removed.

    • @maxssafeplace782
      @maxssafeplace782 Před rokem +29

      Basically, villagers don't have free will in NH.

    • @saradelmoro1492
      @saradelmoro1492 Před rokem +5

      @@maxssafeplace782 it's right! In new horizons I always decide for them, but this is a good these because I can to realize my "perfect island".

  • @SevenEggs
    @SevenEggs Před rokem +145

    The amount of effort put into this video is amazing, thank you Jeff!

  • @wowjennawow
    @wowjennawow Před rokem +54

    moment of silence for our fallen favorites reduced to the amiibo only category in new horizons 😔

  • @jvgsjeff
    @jvgsjeff  Před rokem +233

    Music:
    0:00 Animal Crossing (GameCube) title theme
    0:08 1pm theme, GameCube
    2:35 5pm theme, GameCube
    4:57 11pm snow theme, WW/CF
    5:45 11pm snow theme, New Leaf
    6:45 5am theme, New Horizons
    7:48 9am theme, GameCube
    8:42 9am theme, WW/CF
    9:49 9am theme, New Leaf
    10:52 9am theme, New Horizons
    11:47 8pm theme, WW/CF
    14:15 9pm theme, WW/CF
    15:10 8pm theme, GameCube

  • @luma4682
    @luma4682 Před 4 měsíci +21

    can you sleep in a bed?
    - yes
    - only at weekend
    - not possible
    - if you grab an apple
    - fucking dies

  • @SluggishGA
    @SluggishGA Před rokem +199

    The fact that gyroids were only added in the last major update and there are only 36 of them is a huge disappointment.

    • @six_buck_dlc
      @six_buck_dlc Před 4 měsíci +2

      Better than, like, 12.

    • @asid5240
      @asid5240 Před 4 měsíci +18

      tbf the old gyroids played random notes in rhythm while nh gyroids were manually mapped to every song

    • @AlmalexyaBlue
      @AlmalexyaBlue Před 3 měsíci +3

      Hard disagree, gotta say. I personally find NH gyroids to be the best. I've always find them creepy, ugly, useless, and less subjectively, taking a lot of space if you wanted more than one for the music effects. Now they're cute and much more interacting with the musics.
      That said, I do agree that it was wild that they weren't in game from the start, like many other things.

    • @six_buck_dlc
      @six_buck_dlc Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@AlmalexyaBlue People would complain over a delay, I presume. I presume they presumed.

  • @Kitschune24
    @Kitschune24 Před rokem +183

    The lack of Champ in ACNH is a crime. If Champ or Porter never show up again, though, it might've been an actual crime.

    • @koiyune
      @koiyune Před 9 měsíci +4

      porter can be seen using his amiibo! champ sadly can't, though.

  • @justinluc2572
    @justinluc2572 Před rokem +32

    one thing that they STILL don't have as a feature is sending letters to villagers who have moved out.
    That is just one of the major things that could make villagers feel more alive.

  • @rayahagen1003
    @rayahagen1003 Před rokem +122

    it has been SEVERAL years since jvgsjeff has been suggested to me. what a day. Love that this channel never stopped. Stay gold, ponyboy!

    • @jvgsjeff
      @jvgsjeff  Před rokem +32

      Yeah, CZcams recommendations can be inconsistent. But please consider subscribing to any channels that you enjoy. Thanks for the comment! 😊

    • @royalblanket
      @royalblanket Před rokem +4

      Wow, I didn't even notice! That explains the great editing and pacing

    • @pugsheen2627
      @pugsheen2627 Před rokem +4

      Love the outsiders reference

  • @StanleySophana
    @StanleySophana Před rokem +179

    The golden tools are the reasoning why I clicked on this video. Felt like they shouldn't break at all in New Horizons

  • @624static
    @624static Před rokem +37

    The GC map layouts always felt more creative, although I wasn't a big fan of some villagers just straight up taking my stuff

    • @nicoleramos5964
      @nicoleramos5964 Před rokem +5

      Or when they painted the roof of your house an ugly colot

  • @Mae_Borowski
    @Mae_Borowski Před rokem +28

    I wish they had something like the megaphone in acnh. Because the amount of times where I literally cannot find my villagers is insane. Like in this game it would be the absolute most useful because they could be hiding behind cliffs or furniture.

    • @LtheOriginal
      @LtheOriginal Před 20 dny +1

      You know what would be useful, if your villager and the other residents had a device on them at all times that you can get in contact with them at any time...
      ....like a phone

    • @Mae_Borowski
      @Mae_Borowski Před 20 dny

      @@LtheOriginal exactly!

    • @tsukitanuki101
      @tsukitanuki101 Před 11 dny

      @@LtheOriginalRight? I’d love a texting mechanic with villagers, even if it was just like premade messages you click with 1-3 options.
      Wanna hang out
      Hey, how are you
      And one more
      That would be just fine 😢😢

  • @SDayle
    @SDayle Před rokem +38

    2:03 Actually, this is weird, but I had four villagers come back in Wild World and, while they didn't remember the character that I was playing with when they left, they recognized with no problem a character that knew them, but that I wasn't playing with when they'd left.
    Like, they had the regular "It's been a year! Wtf have you been?!", even if I had never introduced myself to them again, after their return.
    I'm certain the the "friendship" flag had been reset, but they did recognize me.

    • @maxpowers6738
      @maxpowers6738 Před rokem

      That might've been because they moved to one of your friends town and then came back months later and they'll act like they never left. It's happened to me before.

  • @SageArdor
    @SageArdor Před rokem +51

    slight correction. if you go to The Roost in New Horizons, and scan in an Amiibo of a former villager on your island, they will imply that they remember you in the dialogue.

    • @mizukittyakinyama
      @mizukittyakinyama Před rokem +29

      Slight correction to your slight correction, this only works on the day after they leave. Two days or more after, it won't work.

    • @TerribleTerribleAd
      @TerribleTerribleAd Před rokem +6

      @@mizukittyakinyama Not quite! I called over someone I hated just to see if they remembered living on my island. He did. I took many screenshots of me being rude to them. You just have to keep talking to them at the table for the dialogue

  • @phoenixandy
    @phoenixandy Před rokem +39

    I love the FF7 town tune at 13:58, was a pleasant surprise

  • @kelly_seastar
    @kelly_seastar Před rokem +88

    Nintendo be like "Are we jerks for making tools break? No, it's the players that are wrong."

  • @decembrss
    @decembrss Před rokem +74

    Jeff, you’re a legend

  • @sauggofin3293
    @sauggofin3293 Před rokem +43

    Damn, the Animal Crossing music always make me feel calm and safe. Nice music choice. Also: breakable golden tools are a disgrace

  • @Chubby_Bub
    @Chubby_Bub Před rokem +34

    Personally I believe Champ is Porter's brother who can be seen driving the train in the original and New Leaf (as confirmed on his e-Reader card). Champ's house interior is also based on a train station, and his catchphrase is choo-choo!

  • @akatoriii
    @akatoriii Před rokem +11

    Ngl I kinda miss Resetti yelling at me

  • @budgie0003
    @budgie0003 Před rokem +13

    I think an interesting comparison to see would be how many unique dialogues lines in total for different villager types. New horizon villagers felt less alive and it wasn’t even that I was playing the game everyday for a while, I’ve done that with all the games and the characters always felt fun and refreshing

  • @jmercs7
    @jmercs7 Před rokem +57

    I love learning about all of the different Animal Crossing games with these comparisons! Thank you for all of your amazing Animal Crossing content, Jeff! 😊

    • @jvgsjeff
      @jvgsjeff  Před rokem +6

      Thank you! 😊

    • @jmercs7
      @jmercs7 Před rokem +4

      @@jvgsjeff Of course!! 😊 I love watching all of your content, especially the GameCube Animal Crossing because that one is my favorite and I feel like it really doesn’t get talked about much anymore, so I especially love those videos of yours!

  • @IamMortui
    @IamMortui Před rokem +12

    Its ridiculous how golden tools are so difficult to obtain in ACNH (requiring you to complete great tasks with those tools) yet still require gold (a very rare mineral) and STILL BREAK in ACNH. It's an insult to anyone who played any previous AC game in the series.

  • @CathyDotUK
    @CathyDotUK Před rokem +16

    It is weird how much bigger the first game feels it is the most charming one in general

    • @maiastniki
      @maiastniki Před rokem +2

      nintendo did somethingnspecial w all their GC releases

  • @rune2O2O
    @rune2O2O Před 4 měsíci +7

    Remember like 5 months before New Horizons released and it was rumored we could have 15 villagers like the first game because the island map was massive? Good times

  • @astralwishes13
    @astralwishes13 Před rokem +10

    14:04 kapp’n is truly a versatile vehicle operator, he deserves more credit man has done 4 jobs

  • @-randomuser-4897
    @-randomuser-4897 Před rokem +7

    1:33 for city folk, very rarely, villagers will ask to go to your house on a certain day and time. If you're inside your home at this time, they'll come in and chat for a bit, then either go by themselves after a bit, or follow you if you go out.

    • @lagtduckgirl7993
      @lagtduckgirl7993 Před rokem +1

      Playing city folk i couldn't understand how that worked at all...

  • @ReidTheNintendoPainter
    @ReidTheNintendoPainter Před rokem +25

    So uh.......... how do you feel about golden tools breaking? You didn't quite make that clear! 🤣

  • @KuromiSkulls
    @KuromiSkulls Před rokem +19

    Former villagers can return. If your friend gets your village and make them leave you can get them back that way and they still remember you because they were on your island. The dialogue will be different too saying something like “I would like to go back to said island!” Or there is a chance they will come back if you auto fill but it’s a small chance.

  • @tomapple64
    @tomapple64 Před rokem +12

    Because of the fact golden tools break….. I don’t ever make/use them. What’s the point? It’s just a waste of gold to make them

  • @IcyWind
    @IcyWind Před rokem +11

    New Horizons gets a lot of undeserved bashing because of the unfortunate circumstances in the world when it came out, but there really is something to be said about how little it feels like an Animal Crossing game. Like every previous entry was about a town you lived in. Even New Leaf, because you weren't some all-powerful god, you just organized public donations. All the creativity you have in New Horizons is fun, sure, but now it isn't about the town you happen to have moved to, it's about the town that you control nearly everything about.
    If that were the only thing different, I think a lot of people would look past that or dismiss it as nitpicking an otherwise fun mechanic. But between the dialogue, the amount of furniture/fruit, the gyroids as a whole, and the music (I wish I knew anything about music theory so I could place why it sounds *different* than every other game in the series), the whole game is like a close approximation of Animal Crossing. Like they knew all the major beats that people liked, without realizing there was a lot more substance beneath the surface.
    It feels like all the little weird quirks that made the series feel so distinct got ironed out in favor of a more broad appeal (which is weird considering how approachable it was to begin with).

  • @cpugamer1012
    @cpugamer1012 Před rokem +8

    This vid doesn't include one comparison that I personally think is pretty vital for Animal Crossing.
    How much furniture is in each game?
    The thing that honestly made me quit New Horizons after like a month (one of many things, actually, but maybe the one I remember most) was when I started seeing repeat furniture in the shop like.... every other day? Something close to that. Made even more disturbing by the fact that the shop is so SMALL.
    I've wanted to know how the furniture comparison is between NL and NH since it came out, but haven't been able to find any exact numbers. If anyone knows, please tell me, I'm still very curious.

  • @Jaybro1928
    @Jaybro1928 Před rokem +24

    At 3:40, it says Able Sisters closes at 2am in Gamecube, but in one of my older saves it closed at 11pm and reopened at 1am. Must be rare because all my other saves it's been 7am-2am. Weird.

  • @GamingPretzel116
    @GamingPretzel116 Před 24 dny +3

    2:05 In New Horizons, if you use an amiibo, you can invite a former villager to the Roost. Their dialogue will acknowledge that they have some memory from living on your island.😊

  • @MisatoKatsuragiHD
    @MisatoKatsuragiHD Před rokem +23

    This is a great comparison. Now I wanna play the AC games again

    • @ignatiousmary8413
      @ignatiousmary8413 Před rokem +1

      Yes you should! They are very interesting.

    • @mizukittyakinyama
      @mizukittyakinyama Před rokem +1

      play new leaf, I figured out it's probably the best here after watching the video

  • @sillyscenemodude
    @sillyscenemodude Před rokem +14

    Yay! The comparisons are back!

  • @peppapigthekiller7539
    @peppapigthekiller7539 Před rokem +11

    They made the Golden tools decorations and Trophy’s now instead of actual Tools.

  • @peptopng6453
    @peptopng6453 Před rokem +17

    Every day I miss the mini game island from new leaf, there’s no reason to hang out with friends now without it tbh :/

  • @entlestove4318
    @entlestove4318 Před rokem +11

    This has confirmed my feelings and I am buying new leaf as soon as I get paid!!

    • @abbie3702
      @abbie3702 Před rokem +3

      enjoy! i think it really is the peak of AC. NL and WW are still my faves!

  • @TheLMBLucas
    @TheLMBLucas Před rokem +5

    The jumps from City Folk to New Leaf are crazy! Both, numbers and new stuff

  • @sophaphopha
    @sophaphopha Před rokem +6

    I know people will inevitably diss on ACNH, but I think it's kind of exciting to see how a lot of the game's capacity has expanded over the years, especially with the museum

  • @DumuziTheOriginalGod
    @DumuziTheOriginalGod Před rokem +14

    Wish they brought back violets and carnations.. :(

  • @MadCatNobody
    @MadCatNobody Před rokem +74

    This video really shows how much City Folk removed from Wild World

    • @jvgsjeff
      @jvgsjeff  Před rokem +61

      And also how much Wild World removed from the GameCube game. City Folk was kind of a hybrid, bringing back the basic framework of Wild World and re-adding things from GameCube (like the real holidays, multi-level towns, more villagers, etc.).

    • @onlyforwatching8970
      @onlyforwatching8970 Před rokem +36

      @@jvgsjeff Interesting to think about how the series was basically retreading until New Leaf provided somewhat of an evolution.

    • @cyanified
      @cyanified Před rokem

      Always thought CF was just WW with more things, not removed stuff aswell >-

  • @Ace_o_Clubz
    @Ace_o_Clubz Před 3 měsíci +4

    Me during the video: What a nice video filled with sensible comparisons and some bits of funny (the Lyle bit was very funny tbh)
    Me during the outro: HA! Loud noise funny!

  • @drpicklephd
    @drpicklephd Před rokem

    awesome video, it's fun to see all these comparisons!!!

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 Před rokem +2

    This is incredibly informative and brings back so many memories of Wild World omfg.

  • @SquidRumi
    @SquidRumi Před 3 měsíci +3

    4:16 WAS WAITING FOR THIS PART 😭

  • @falloutguy8566
    @falloutguy8566 Před rokem +3

    Animal crossing GameCube: the best and most nostalgic out of them all. The first year with Halloween and Christmas were the best. Getting the NES system was crazy and finding out you could actually play it was awesome

  • @araigumakiruno
    @araigumakiruno Před rokem +2

    This is the very easy to understand, quick depth comparison of all of the main line games, if this doesn't satisfy anyone i dont know what will.

  • @ignatiousmary8413
    @ignatiousmary8413 Před rokem +5

    Thank you For this video. It's very useful.

  • @_daleko
    @_daleko Před 9 měsíci +10

    This shows how amazing New Leaf is to this day, even then, I still love the vibe of the older games.

  • @sabbatage1870
    @sabbatage1870 Před rokem +22

    I've only picked up NH cause I main villager in smash so I wanted to play his own series and later dappled in CF and NL. So what you're telling me is that NH added so much QoL while taking away just as much?

  • @LateNightWendigo
    @LateNightWendigo Před měsícem +1

    One of the few things I liked more in NH is getting to choose your appearance without having to look at guides if you want something specific.
    Shampoodle in City Folk was a nightmare when I was a kid lmao.

  • @OmegaJX
    @OmegaJX Před rokem +1

    I was not prepared for that FF7 Town tune, good stuff man.

  • @NCEYSPT
    @NCEYSPT Před rokem +48

    i really hope animal crossing comes back to the style of new leaf, because new horizons would be great if they weren't so focused on the "island" part of the game. new horizons feels so stale after a while but older games feel like they keep their feeling.

  • @gabm2772
    @gabm2772 Před rokem +17

    When my first golden tool broke I got so upset like why would I make it if it just ended up breaking???? Its a waste of gold!!!!

    • @thesavageone8685
      @thesavageone8685 Před rokem

      What else do you use gold for?

    • @gabm2772
      @gabm2772 Před rokem +8

      @@thesavageone8685 crafts!! Like the astrology items or all gold furniture

    • @thesavageone8685
      @thesavageone8685 Před rokem

      @Gab M you like how those look!? I personally hate it. It seems too flashy and like a flex. Like just get something that looks good.

    • @astr6nova
      @astr6nova Před rokem

      @@thesavageone8685 It looks good for some theme or when you want to decor the exterior of the museum

  • @X3NOD
    @X3NOD Před 5 dny +1

    Wow very good video you've even made it so that when there's a lot of text displayed, we can take a little more time to read it all, it's really a detail but since not many people do that it's annoying

  • @noodle5622
    @noodle5622 Před rokem +1

    great video jeff!!! definitely made me nostalgic for my gc… might have to go dig it up when i visit my parents house 😆

  • @Em00lia
    @Em00lia Před rokem +8

    The fruits are the most upsetting to me. I can't wrap my head around why tf they removed them again

  • @53ra
    @53ra Před rokem +4

    Dammm it i just realized I forgot to subscribe like 2-3 years ago 💀💀💀💀 I can't believe I haven't been subbed for so long dude

  • @ARandomDud3_9687
    @ARandomDud3_9687 Před rokem +36

    Hey Jeff, this is off-topic but... Thank you! You're the person who inspired me to play the original Animal Crossing in the Gamecube thanks to all of your videos about it. The game feels strange, but in a good way! Thank you so much!

  • @SailorMoonandKirbyFan2003

    Wow 🤩,More Quick Comparisons!

  • @stevia99
    @stevia99 Před rokem +4

    I never thought to ask whether frogs hold umbrellas in the rain in each game but thanks for the answer. Really makes you wonder

  • @vasya2532
    @vasya2532 Před rokem +3

    when you called lyle a scammer that made me laugh a lil

  • @plebeychips
    @plebeychips Před 4 měsíci +1

    Watching this was fun since I’ve played both new horizons and wild world so getting to compare the 2 was great! (I was confused as to why I had no idea who some of the characters were but it’s either cuz they aren’t in WW and are amiibo only in NH or because I haven’t encountered them in either game yet.

  • @Snitsky9
    @Snitsky9 Před rokem +2

    Great info compilation video Jeff. Also I'll take the chance to say that I'm still mad they removed hide and seek in NH..