The Complicated Truth About Montana
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2023
- One of our best states is in jeopardy and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.
We went to Bozeman, Montana to talk with people about how change is impacting the way of life.
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Your views would triple if you did a few video in a speedo
NYC is definitely more affordable than Montana.
Love your videos! That mustache though..😂🤣
It’s a sad reality for us Montanans. The sickness has made its way to us and it’s truly changed our state for the worse.
Welcome to 1985 California. Nobody cried for us.
Now you know what we've been dealing with in Oregon since the 1980s
Wait until we see what future "sicknesses" bring us. We'll be lucky if they don't Maui all of us!
@@holdenc3082yup.
I remember my pops getting a job in LA and I was fortunate enough to live on Silverstrand Beach from 76 to 85.
Awesome time.
Especially for my parents 🎉
Native Americans have been dealing with this for hundreds of years.
My husband was killed by a drunk driver 3 months ago on Father's Day (I was left badly injured with our 3 children under 6 who also survived the crash), and he used to LOVE your channel. He always told me when you'd upload a new video. I bet he would've loved this video, he was always very interested in Montana for some reason. 😅
I'm sorry. I wish you the best ❤❤
Aww I'm so sorry. I wish I had met him!
So sorry.
Saddened and sorry to hear this.
I'm so sorry for your loss :(
My family has been in the valley for 5 generations. Seeing/experiencing what's happening is brutal.
I live in a suburb of Seattle. Gentrification. There are so many people of every language and color who live here!
Homelessness, drugs and crime are my new normal I navigate around daily. It is so sad and scary at the same time. No lie. I pray for God’s protection as I am aging and am beginning to feel more vulnerable.
Same here friend. We have just began a new generation for our family and unfortunately, they won't get to grow up the way we did. 😢
That's how American Indigenous people feel.
As a fellow citizen of the Gallatin Valley, my heart goes out to you
Thank you for the kind words.
The entire country is starting to look like the times of the great depression.
We are in a silent depression
40+ years of wage stagnation while the cost of living rose quickly. If wages had kept up with cost of living the minimum wage would be $75 hour
This isn't even close to the great depression. Snowflake
This time it was on purpose though. The inflation is a GIFT to Wall Street & Blackrock & the globalists. First you give them 0% interest for a decade, they buy inflation hedges, then you PAY THE BRIBES OFF with MASSIVE INFLATION.
All entirely on purpose. all uniparty. All democrats. Same thing w some cosmetic differences.
Trump sucks, but if you vote for anyone else you are a FOOL. Ramaswamy _maybe_ excepted.
@@juliancrooks3031Yup. The American worker hasn’t had a raise since Reagan.
Basically, if they put a Whole Foods in your town, it's OVER 😅
Yes, and umpteen coffee shops and pilates places chock full of fake blonde women yakking about their new Range Rovers.
With big city suburbia comes liberalism.
We have Grocery Outlets. Uggggg 😢
😂😊😅😮😢😢😢
We got a Whole Foods in Bozeman last year 😂
I cringed with horror as TIME Magazine put Bozeman, Montana on it's front page. Calling it the best place on Earth. God help you Bozeman, and Montana. RIP.
Yep in 2014 Forbes put my wonderful crime free affordable neighborhood on blast. The crime became so bad they steal your mail in day light. The demographics changed so much it became entirely unsafe. Taxes went from 2k to 8k a year. We had to move.
MontanaforniaCation😂
Boulder is next.
As if it wasn't already on rainbow 🌈 skittles life support.
At least Deion is an alpha male so hopefully a few good men will start a trend upward 😂
Same crap happened to Austin, Texas back in the early 2000’s! Next thing u know condos were going up everywhere & none of em were affordable. Now days u can’t find NOTHING under $700k in central Austin. It’s a crying shame! SOB’s sold us out! Now only the rich & people from out of state/country can afford to live in downtown Austin.
@@facediaper09 Boulder was next 20 years ago. Been there done that.
I'm from Bozeman. I've got personal memories from almost every shot you took. My first job delivering newspapers was on Main Street. One of my customers was the sherrifs office which is now a museum. Even the lots with all the new houses, we used to snowmobile in those fields. There were no homeless. The police would take them to the bus depot and the city would buy them a ticket to Billings for $8. When I was a kid, I Montana $100,000 would buy a mansion. What pisses me off is the property tax goes up when people pay more, so the real Montanans can't afford to keep the land that's been in the family for generations. Those Californian's used to make fun of us!
I now live in Ecuador. I miss Bozeman, a lot. I miss it more when I go there.
How’s it going in Ecuador? I love it there.
Did you renounce your US citizenship in Ecuador? If not, it's gotta suck paying US taxes while living in Ecuador
Grew up in Bozeman in the late 60's, early 70's...i have lived most of my life in the Portland, OR. area..just recently moved to the Missoula area and have family in Bozeman...i really don't recognize it anymore. Being stuck in traffic for 30 mins on a half mile street..no parking...nasty attitudes from most...it is most definately not THE place to go anymore, sorry.
This is happening everywhere. I live in Ottawa, Canada and the average house price is high $700,000’s. You can still find older townhomes for $400,000 to $500,000. Every city has its’ share of homeless and tent encampments. Sad reflection on what is happening in society.
*Not society. Government/business.* Let me explain "The Great Reset" to you (v simple terms:)
1. after 2008 crash use quantitive easing to give trillionaire companies 0% loans
2. trillionaires & billionaires buy inflation hedged assets (ones that go up w inflation) on credit.
3. Biden/Trudeau/Arden & the rest use Wuhan Corona overreaction to pump the money supply (that is inflaction, not prices going up. Prices going up is 2ndary.)
4. Actual rate of price rises using fair "basket of goods" (what people actually buy) double what they say
5. Trillion-dollar cos reap 10-20% profits per year on loans that cost them nothing
6. for only the cost of the "Build BAck Better" (for BIllionaires) bribes & blackmail & such.
"Late Stage Capitalism."
Nothing to DO with free markets.
It's actually closer to Fascism once you work in the censorship & control of the press.
And Trudeau is the worst of the lot. You guys are FFFFed.
ya I heard It's happening in Europe and Australia what with the affordable housing and too many claiming disability
Yes-!!! The " New World Disorder "😳
@@rochwind1448well in europe... Yu still can find very cheap wide properties in fact. BUT (!) yu need to work by yur own or at distance or being retired. Lot of americans moved in europe as soon they were retired. In nice regions. Yu have the choice in europe. As an ex Building surveyor and real estate expert I just warn yu : better take such an independant councelor. Never trust a real estate agent... A notary etc. Better pay such a local competent guy who knows laws and got enough technical expertise in order to determine where are the snaggs. I saw too many people in bad situation after they bought a property. But.. For US citizens europe in some areas is probably a good solution if yu conseder real Estate prices.. Costs of life... Quiet safety places and modern medic or traffic frames. Historical and touristic attractions too... Of course.
What job can you have in the middle of nowhere to get a 500 000 house I never even talked to someone worth that much money
Winter does humble a lot of these Californians that have moved in
Native Californian here. Gotta say I love my California weather. Hate the politics, stay for the gorgeous weather and beautiful beaches.
Year round sloppy drunks and slobs dumping trash and junk in the woods. Montana is great.
I grew up in north california and we got 2-4 feet of snow every winter and lived like an hour from the next nearest town. Why do people not realize how big California is? It's not hard to think a state that big will have different weather and geography, lol.
Texas is too yall. This is a whole nation issue. ❤
This isn’t left or right. I live in a leftist Fort Collins, Colorado and we have these problems. I work in right wing Wyoming and we have these problems here too.
We’re being phased out by the rich, dying with diseases of despair.
It’s awful
I'm in Western Colorado. The building boom is through the roof. The traffic is rush hour 24/7 and the cost of living is pricing many people out. More pricey new vehicles here than ever! License plates from all over the country. I would love to leave, but the only family I have is in LA. Been there - hated it!
Feels more like him expressing that once the leftist utopias gets full enough or are crime riddled to the point due to leftist policy, the lefties that can afford it move to rural areas and gentrify them but also bring their liberal lefty policies and politics with them and destroy the conservative small town life and economy and dump so much money into houses and property and increase the cost of homes and make it impossible for locals to keep up with the prices.
@spencerme3486 not sure where in Wyoming you are having those problems, MAYBE Laramie/Cheyenne or Casper. That’s it.
I was raised in FT Morgan, Co. For 14 years of my life. I have been to Ft.Collins many times in.my.youth!
I live in foco 2 even a mobile home is 100k time to move
From a french perspective, live in the US is a dream...what we call over here the american dream....unfortunatelly it seems that it worst that living in France....but I notice we face the same pb here: we can afford to welcome migrants with houses, medical care for zero euro....whereas we have more and more french homeless....it is crazy!
Trump 2024
Like George Carlin said, “ To believe in the American Dream- you’ve got to be asleep,” and “there’s a Big Club, and you ain’t in it!” FACTS
My grandfather homesteaded in Montana as a boy with his family in 1912. My dad was born in Bozeman and I grew up there. It is hardly recognizable from what it was just 20 years ago. It’s truly sad.
Watched this happen in Colorado back in the 80s and you see where that state is at now.
Anglo's have allowed this to happen unfortunately...
I wonder if Blackrock and Chase are involved in this some how?
I love the stories on the Bozeman trail,,,,,,,,,RIP John Bozeman
How exactly is it different?
@@gemox3225 It's hard to capture in just a few words, but the landscape, population, infrastructure, and even the general vibe have all undergone significant changes. The essence of what I remembered Bozeman to be has shifted in ways both subtle and profound.
I feel your pain Montana.
Sincerely,
A Third Generation Native Floridian
Ya, my daughter is moving mainly because of housing cost. Her family can rent a nice house (Missouri) for what a ghetto apartment goes for here. (Orlando). It’s gotten ridiculous here in Florida. Hard to even get homeowners insurance here.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
A 5th generation Montanan.
I didn't think anyone was FROM Florida 😅
My grandparents raised my mom and uncle there in Bozeman, they were married in August of 1929. My grandpa wheeled my grandma in a wheelbarrow down main street. My grandpa helped build the First Baptist Church Steeple, I still own the hammer head he used. My grandma worked in a seedpea plant fixing burlap bags. My mom went to School there at the Catholic Church and then College (until she met my dad as a motorcycle accident patient at the hospital she was doing her clinicals at). My uncle worked on the railroad before starting Farmers Insurance Co. All three of my cousins worked the company. I lost the oldest one nearly a decade and a half ago then both sisters of his just last year. My grandpa knew, hunted, and fished with Walt Disney and he actually walked in the funeral procession when he died in 1961. Grandma moved to Belgrade and had the best views of the surrounding mountains. I grew up loving to visit. My uncle's wife is still in Bozeman but not in great health, I really am saddened to see the city in disarray. My dad by the way was born in Ekalaka, Montana. His mom is buried in upstate somewhere near Glasgow. Both my mom and dad died in this month of October just thirteen years apart, buried in Washington State in the same cemetery as my grandfather on my dad's side, and my nephew. Montana needs to vote out the liberals and not allow any transplants from Washington, Oregon, California, New York, New Jersey, or even Nevada to run for office in any capacity until they've lived there at least two decades, before it turns into California 10.0. California's political, social, and economic policies have ruined several other Western States.
Your documentation of whats happening is awesome! Nobody else is reporting like you do.
And how bout that mustache!?
Best channel on the tube
“Part of the reason so many people came here was it what a lot more cheaper than where they lived. Now they’ve gone and done it.” Ahh, the modern day gold rush like resettlement game. Leave, resettle and price out locals to get your big fat house before real estate gets too expensive again.
Except now the internet exists so now people down in Texas know that people up in Montana are mad and they can moan and groan together about newcomers, lol.
If people are smart enough to work hard, buy a house, then they have the right to sell it and move. Smarten up.
@@rickreese5794 I understand their pain. I really do. It's the same way here in California only difference is, is that our Governor welcomes it.
I’m an OTR trucker and just moved to Montana from Georgia I love the state and learning about the culture I don’t want Montana to change and I feel the pain of the locals watching their home become unrecognizable. Sometimes when people learn you’re not local they treat you worse but overall the people in my town have been incredibly wonderful and welcoming
Do they finally accept you after they realize you're fine?
@@NickJohnson usually once I tell them about my stepdad a native and local and that I respect the culture they usually open up more yeah
That's always been an MT thing though. I lived there over 20 years ago and that was going on. Out of staters trickling in and the locals were never friendly. It took a while to make some good friends, and it was never really 'affordable' - the prices now are just inflation in action, but pretty much if you were working class money you were working two and three jobs to make ends meet. When we moved there from CO our neighbors did not like us at first either. When they got to know us a bit they warmed up. It appears MT hasn't changed in that regard.
It's sad to see the volume of influx tick up so much though. I feel for the natives getting priced out and pushed out. So long as the Californians don't bring their California attitudes with them it will work out for the better; but that doesn't seem to be the common trend.
@@daixsothey should he glad they even have internet
Well, how nice. I am sure you will welcome hundreds of other people who do the same thing you did. They will welcome thousands of others who want to do what you did and all the while thay are paving over the fields and farms, scarring up the hills with mansions for the wealthy to build their palaces on and destroying the land that provides food for the world. Yes, by all means, Welcome all who want to come. Soon it will looking like Los Angeles.
Sadly, I am in the Outer Banks in North Carolina and the same thing is happening there. I see so many New York/New Jersey tags it is sickening. The locals cannot afford to live here anymore and the traffic is terrible.
I'd be more concerned with Dupont destroying the Cape Fear river if I were you
You did it to yourselves. You sold the land to developers. All they did was create a product - houses - and people with money came to enjoy what you had in your hands. DON"T SELL YOU LAND.
The very same here in the NC mountains, nowhere to hunt, or just get in the woods anymore, all leasted up or sold, it's the Rich
I'm in Fort Mill, SC and it's just as bad here. Lots of homes becoming rentals.
My conservative, rural, family oriented county in Ohio is experiencing this on a much smaller scale. We neighbor the most liberal county in the state, some families like mine, moved out here to embrace the culture of this county and raise our kids here. Unfortunately there are many moving here that want to immediately set out to change all the best parts of this county to reflect what ruined the place they just fled! I'm ready to move farther out in the country.
What are they trying to change about it?
@@NickJohnson politics and significantly increased development.
There is probably junk and tires dumped all around. Rural areas are abused by locals. They are hypocrites.
Nick, you're a national treasure, thank you for doing the work you do!
A national treasure
Why?
Don't you have to have some national name recognition to be a national treasure?
0 clue who he is
That's a reflection on you, literally you dind't exist either until this very moment, no idea of your existance prior to now, and now we're no longer internet strangers, *virtual hug* I love you new friend@@lockandloadlikehell
My wife and I passed thru Bozeman 3 years ago, the old waitress warned us then that Bozeman was growing in a bad way...
Was in Bozeman in 2012 to visit a friend. Loved it! Also thought it had a lot in common with Grand Junction, CO. Abt the same size, College town, river, Railroad, Interstate, cozy atmosphere, only better kept. And now I see, Bozeman has the same problem as Grand Junction!
WE did too and heard the same , Californians were moving in with their high prices.
Don't judge them all by their license plate. I was lucky enough to be born, raised, and lived for all 68 years of my life in Montana. Thirty some years ago I got stranded on the highway with my wife and two young daughters. I sat on the side of the road with the flashers on and hood up...going nowhere. Many a vehicle sped by me without as much as moving over to miss me. Most of them had Montana plates. Finally, a man about my age with a wife and two young daughters stopped and gave me a tow to the nearest town. He had California plates! The repair shop told me they would replace a faulty fuel pump in a couple of hours. I offered to buy this family lunch at the nearby McDonald's while we waited. They told us they wanted to relocate from CA to MT because of the craziness they were experiencing there (yes, it was even crazy in CA 30 years ago). They were looking for real estate to buy in Montana but mentioned that everyone they met were less than friendly once they learned they were from California. We were in a bit of a resort area where real estate prices were high (by MT standards) and they were afraid they weren't going to be able to fine a home here. I offered to take them to my hometown area where prices were more reasonable (Great Falls) and show them around... they stayed with us for 3 days and made an offer on a property in the Little Belt Mountains which they could never quite get closed. A few years later, they bought a place in another western state and are happy as clams. We exchange Christmas cards to this day...wonderful people who came from California. So this is one native Montanan who gives most "out of staters" a bit of a break to let them prove themselves before I cuss them out for ruining the state we all love.
How do you like it NOW?????
Well said 👏 ❤😊
I moved to Hawaii from California years ago and I now see many people from Cali moving here now since Covid. A lot of them are stressed out and pull maneuvers in Costco and on the road. Some are more generous and do pretty well as they have something to offer.
THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE DOING THIS, IS BECAUSE NOBODY'S STOPPING IT!
Ya wanna do what North korea does instead? Imprison people in their own villages? Cool beans, Kim.
My two daughters lived in Montana for years. One in Big Sky, the younger in Bozeman. They loved Montana but since the pandemic all of California seemed to be migrating to Montana and Utah. They came back home (New Mexico) last year and say they were fortunate to experience Montana's beauty and beautiful people before all the $$ moved in and destroyed the mountain culture they loved so much. Sad.
We lived there in the mid 80s and it was a wonderful place, we was there last week and we agree it has turned in to a shit hole,,
Me I like New Mexico! Haven't been back to Aztec in a while though... hope it hasn't changed much beyond the big gas boom.
I'm interested in seeing how many of these Californians actually stay in Montana several years from now after they've experienced some harsh winters and have to deal with real snow and bitter cold.
And the mud season.
Trust me that we California refugees (I've been here over 20 years) would love to return to California if it wasn't run by communists and leftists. most of my guns aren't even legal in the state of California. One of the things that we need to realize is that a lot of the people who are moving here are very conservative and they moved here because they love how Montana is and they're really the last people that want to change it. So I think politically, we have a lot of hope in the state it's just that the housing situation has become ridiculous. And I live in a broken down trailer park in the ghetto of my town and I just feel thankful that I've even got somewhere to live and that's what it's come to.
@@ageofadversitymost who fled commiefornia, are NOT in fact conservative. They just cant deal with the consequences of their actions/vote, and then try to turn their new home into what they fled.
That's what's global warming is for
Unfortunately they adapt. Take it from a former Coloradoan and now Texan. We cannot escape no matter how far we move. I think the only way now is to find property in the most remote reaches of deserts and mountains.
Remember your rancher friends are happy to re-zone some of their ag property to sell to the developers. The local township with the banker on the board was OK with the re-zoning along with all the retail proprietors. Everything gets a boost, only those not benefitting from it suffer.
EXACTLY we had real estate agents on city council in Idaho. They sold their soul for dollars in their pockets. They blocked EVERY controlled growth bills that came in front of the council. The reason ranchers are selling is because their kids don’t want to farm anymore
@@jimsteinway695yeah Austin had that happen too in the 80s and 90s. Then everybody started flipping houses for 20 yrs...here we are. I flipped one myself. I see the appeal.
yep these people are actually worse
I worked at Yellowstone Park back in 1992. The Paradise Valley near Livingston was already full on Hollywood way back then. The Paradise Valley is now the site of Kevin Costner's Dutton Ranch on Yellowstone. The rich and famous really do live there. Probably a lot more nowadays.
There are two types of people. One type moves to a town because they like the town and they want it to stay the same. The other type moves to a town and they want to change everything about it.
You just described men versus women.
And everyone who are non citizens of America come here to change the nation, and function in mini versions of the country they abandoned. And continue to speak their native tongue.
Yes, and it extends to politics, too. @@777jones
Who are the types that dump trash and junk in the woods? Is a Californian that moves to Montana and complains about others dumping a liberal?
Colorado is absolutely the same way
Dog shit bags on hiking trails they seem to think their dog shit bag doesn't look like trash to the next hiker .
Garbage along highways and freeways. Guess they missed that lesson in school.
“Poverty with a view “
Ain’t that the truth.😟
I lived in Bozeman for years. Welcome to the party. You think everyone in California is eking by in a little apartment because they want to? "Montanans" are lucky they'e had it so good for so long. I'm sick of listening to generationally rich ranchers who drive $100K trucks complain because they are barely making it while they sit on a huge pile of money on land with several homes and outbuildings. On the other side, there are tons of people who moved to Montana from other states who are complaining non stop about the "out of staters". For every out of stater that overpays for something there is someone that made a bunch of money on the deal. The real problem is they printed money and gave out massive loans to anyone that could fog a mirror. The house of cards will come down eventually.
I remember the first time I visited Bozeman. I stopped in the Walmart and was looking for carts. Couldn't find them anywhere. I finally asked a person working their where the carts were and they said they had to get rid of the carts since so many people were stealing them. I never heard/saw this before, but I'm not from the west coast. It was just the last thing I expected from Montana. I had no idea it was like that their
Being from Minnesota, I hope all the real Montana people get their wish of a long, cold winter.
I am in Belgium and I don’t understand why a long cold winter would be a good think for citizens
@@moira8a long cold winter will send the non-Montana wanna be people back to where they came from- that’s what he is saying here…
A long cold winter will chase the homeless away to warmer parts of the country.
@@margaretlovrich6837 oh I see. Here in Belgium the government opens special houses for them where they can stay for free, but only for the nights…
There’s that here as well, but space is limited, and there’s rules the druggies don’t want to follow. Like curfews and no illegal substances.
This whole country will be unrecognizable in a few months.
R.I.P. America.
Cities have been like this for 5 years or so, houses bought up by a wealthy few for renting. Maybe it’s time to stop giving them tax cuts and reverse course.
@@12time12Does every comment from you include taxing the rich?
@@alk3078 on this topic, yes. The wealthy are destroying this country. Eisenhower warned about this issue alongside his concerns about the military industrial complex. Wealth of this magnitude concentrated in so few is bad for society.
"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. " 😅
@@alk3078yes baby
I moved to Oregon from Michigan 30 years ago. Drove through Bozeman with great interest because of the book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Passed through town in about 5 minutes! Thought to myself, "Was that Bozeman? Did I blink and miss it?" Looks like it has been gentrified to the max over the last several decades.
No pee or shit in the doorways..at least not yet..give it another 10 years..Hopefully the brutal winters will keep the homeless and druggies out!! Great video Nick!!
The universities came up with the motto "we have the best and brightest here in Montana for you California" decades ago and now we see the fruit of their labor. No one to blame but themselves.
Absolutely true. Predatory capitalism at it's finest. Just ask the homeless who can't afford rent anywhere now. Let's thank the hedge fund managers such as Steve Schwartzman of black stone who bought up the new homes and apts. Tripling the rent. And eviction of people on fixed incomes. Great friends with Joe Biden. BTW, rethuglicans are no damn better. Romney and the rest do the same thing.
Importing sociopaths. What did they expect would happen ?
@@theashpilez they exported first
LIBERALS WILL NEVER GET IT !!!! BUILD BACK BETTER IS "NOT" WORKING I DON'T BLAME THE LOCALS ONE BIT !!!
I think it’s a lot of big money buying up your state. As someone who grew up in central California, I know Montana is a nice place to visit, In the summer, but I sure as hell wouldn’t want to spend the winter there! Which anyone from California would soon discover they spent the whole year there.
Hello from a NYC. Native New Yorker here. We can rinse, lather repeat this a million times over and over here. Everything is changing and getting far too expensive. Sorry it is happening in Montana. I feel your pain.
in one of your videos, you asked why we like to look at poor neighborhoods, it's because it lets us know how fortunate we are, and it makes me more humble.
This actually made me cry a lot.
I grew up here and was very blessed to go to high school and Bozeman. I lived in such a safe and beautiful place. Where I got to experience the outdoors and a childhood. That many kids don't get to experience these days. But my heart is completely shattered. Knowing that I will not. Be living in Bozeman any longer, and our families, generations that have been here, for years, we'll no longer be here either. We are being pushed out because people who are greedy and have money and want to be here and destroy the things that they touch, have moved in and pushed. The people who deserve to be here, our It's not fair and when I see these kinds of people move into my Hometown. It makes me honestly feel hatred. And that is not something God wants me to feel towards anybody.
But what do you do when you have to watch People destroy everything that you love so much and do it right in front of you.? I pray god brings a change to wipe out this evil that seems to be spreading all over our country. May god have mercy on your souls.
They come here to escape what they voted for in California then vote the same damn way. Liberals are idiots
First, if you expect god to help, you are wasting time and effort. Why won't you be there? Will you sell your home and land to a developer? Will you YOU make it possible for these money hungry developers to turn the place into a slum? Or will you and your neighbors HOLD ON TO YOUR LAND. Then there can be no flood of houses, cars, shopping malls. YOU people who sell out are the cause of the demise of places like Montana. You are not being pushed out, You are turning tail and surrendering your birthright.
The fact that rich people's presence can just raise property values and displace the locals is concerning. The locals should be able to gatekeep their home.
Crassus writes the laws to benefit Crassus.
Actually, I've seen this in my own state of Pennsylvania. City dwellers from surrounding states have been invading here since the Obama years. They have been pumping out houses everywhere because no one wants to live in cities anymore. However, what they don't understand is that them coming here RAISES the prices because they aren't the only ones with the idea. Countless scores of families have gotten the same idea. They keep tearing down farmland and woods to accommodate the insane growth in demand for "more housing." There is no such thing as affordable housing in 2023. Single family homes are in demand because it's what people want. They are escaping the diversity of cities, but no one will actually admit it publicly. They ruined many small towns that were fine without the insane influx of city folk. I'm beyond frustrated that socialist media entices people to move.
When you're selling and someone offers you twice what your house is worth, what do you do? Refuse and opt to sell instead to a local school teacher for a much lower price? Because that is what it would take. And people leaving don't care anyway. They get as much money as they can. I suspect you would do the same?
It’s happening pretty much everywhere. Longer term residents of any place should pay property tax based on what they bought the place for or something.
@youbetyourwrasse maybe the residents should be obligated to gatekeep the rich always do it
I was born in Montana. Helena, to be specific. I left in 1996. Even back then, all those years ago, it was difficult to secure housing. I was viewed as an outsider because I was black. I was shocked how much has changed when I returned last spring to care for my dying grandmother. I would fly in every time I visited. This time I had drove in. Houses were in places that used to not have anything around for miles. Down interstate 90 from Bozeman in Three Forks, there used to be endless wheat fields. Now houses are springing up on the wheat fields. When my grandmother passed, I sold her house. She lived in Helena in a trailer park. She gutted a single wide trailer from the 70s and made it look really good. New everything, inside and out. Sold it for 125k. The land it was on was a rented lot owned by the park. Buyer from California paid cash and didn't even bat an eye. I could have sold it for more, but I was tired and ready to go home. As much as it saddens me how Montana has changed, my grandmother was the only reason I kept coming home. Good luck to my fellow Montanans.
My son lives in Helena
Good for you miss, wishing you good stuff 🫶
Crazy. 125k would be the very upper end for what I could sell my trailer on land outside las cruces new mexico.
@@davestewart2067 shit here in Tn you can’t get a mobile home on a small piece of land for less than 325,000
You’re probably right outside Nashville. It must be cheaper farther out or near Memphis
Nick, this informative tour of Bozeman was not only showing current life and conditions. You do it with an interesting, entertaining style! 👏
Yay!
What a major tragedy. Montana was such a beautiful state with that "last frontier" feel to it. Back in the 70's I remember my uncle being so upset when they had a new neighbor within 3 miles of the ranch. He said it was the beginning of the end. Glad he is not around to see this-it would break his heart.
I tried to get a cabin on flat head lake to visit family and we were quoted $5000 for a week. The "locals" of montana sure don't seem to mind the influx, they're happy to price gouge.
Omg this country is done 😮
@@cicicorleopeople cry about California or New Yorkers but they come because certain people want their money
I doubt it was owned by a local
@@stevehenry2002 even if you're right a local sold it to them
It's not price gouging. The owner of that cabin probably paid $3 million+ for it. He needs to make enough to cover the costs.
This has been one of the best series I've seen about the great coastal migration and its consequences. Thanks for doing it Nick. Really good.
Not to mention how they change the gov and voting almost half the population now with money and control another 10 years do not even want to look .
If you are from California please remember, you are a refugee NOT a missionary!
All other states should pass a law against immigration from California.
The state of Colorado agrees with you.
The out-of-state developers as well.
They're the ones buying up all your property. And selling them for huge prices.
They're just vultures. Looking for quick profit.
@@izthewiz-rb9npTexas agrees
We’ve been screwed over in Texas ever since NASA moved in.
Colorado and Wyoming are increasingly infested with Texans -- tourists, second homers, wealthy retirees. Ugh.
Montana- It’s a beautiful state. Before I was born in ‘78 my parents and their families came from Billings,MT to WA state. This is what happens when you have a combined tragedy of CA-DEW fires and a massive cost of living increase. We owned our own home for 14yrs- lost it to foreclosure in 2019. Then convid hit. Practically homeless in a 1984 rv for 3 1/2 yrs, moving from campground to campground. Now we live in the same apts my husband and I rented BEFORE we bought our house. In 2005 this 2 bedroom cost $525/ month plus electricity. Now the exact same style unit it $2500!
That's just frustrating and maddening and seems so unfair huh?
It is what it is. 2008 was rough and all slid downhill from there. People being pushed into future 15min cities. Thanks You-N!
The Montana Meth project has been around for about twenty years. Drugs have been a problem in Montana for a long time, but rural states are better at sweeping it under the rug.
The multitrillion dollar illegal drug industry has protection in high places. This is allowed.
The rich don’t do meth.
This is survival of the fittest, the useless die out by their own actions.
Just Saying…..
Correct it was like uh dude, meth has been a serious issue for twenty years in Montana. It’s not “just starting.”
It is happening all over the country. In Las Vegas also. The situation will only get worse with millions crossing the border. We have become 2nd class citizens in our own COUNTRY. CLOSE OUR BORDERS
We should regulate the border better but here It seems that it's the rich and on the way to be rich US residents that are affecting these places, it's been happening in other places too like Texas.
It's usually the same suspects, greed and lack of regulations.
It is happening in every English speaking country, it is not by accident but by design.
Don't forget the rich white folks having eight kids [see your local congressperson] , who give themselves $174,000 per year to do nothing but own the libs. They love the loose inheritance laws that help them avoid taxes. They invaded your town first, but you were the same color, so OK.
it will never happen
Blame the rich. They love foreign investors buying up all the properties and land pushing prices beyond the reach of most average Americans.
I saw a camper towing a landscaping trailer camped overnight in a St. Petersburg, FL Wal-Mart yesterday. He had a gas generator fixed to the front of the camper for A/C and I guess he does landscaping where he can find it.
At least he's hustling!! ❤️❤️
Wanted to move before the pandemic but couldn't convince the wife. During / After the pandemic she finally was willing but at that point everyone and everything we wanted to get away from was spreading all over the states we had originally considered moving to. In hindsight I'm glad we didn't move. Still hate the politics, rot and decay of California and that's why we wanted to move. Doesn't seem like it matters any more. God speed Montana.
Montana gets what it voted for!
@williamhaynes2392 gets what it's new residency voted for leftism political spectrum is a cancer.
The problem with letting developers/home builders decide what gets built is that they will never decide to build truly affordable housing. They make bigger bucks on the unaffordable stuff. Cities get more tax revenue from the expensive stuff. But that’s what needs the intervention. That’s where the change has to be forced by a higher power.
$500 a night for motel - holy moly ! And Airbnb taking over. They really should clamp down on Airbnb. Max it out at 30 days per year, and only part of your premises can be used, and you have to be at home. Here in Prague, it's basically hollowed out the entire centre. I was in Montana in 2010 and it was perfect (the brief bit of it I saw driving around in a Colorado hire car ). Sad to see that it's so expensive for locals
Ever since the R bar blew up…
Yup grew up in Bozeman Montana and I’m making the move away from my home…can’t afford it here and I can live a better life and make my dollar go further in most other places….Glad I was here for the last days of the True Montana
We keep putting houses on our farms and ranches. What will we do when countries won't send us their food?
China is going to attack at some point. Them and the BRIC countries, and our democrat party will open the doors for them.
BRIC stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China…. FYI
It's the other way around
You won't be around to worry about that if Mr Gates gets his way and it's looking like he will because the majority it seems would rather stare at their phones then look out for themselves.
@benallmark9671 Most people don't even know we are experiencing The Great Culling. 🤦♀️ Despite their loyalty to MSM & it's fear-mongering, and corrupt politics ~ they don't even digest what they see/hear as a piece of reality.
Perhaps ignorance IS bliss. 🤷♀️
They talk constantly about population reduction. The carbon they wish to remove is us.
Something fundamental has gone wrong with the system when teachers, healthcare workers and such are forced to live in campers and tents.
Predatory capitalism at it's finest.
Isn't bidenomics great 👍
@@alk3078 simpleton.
@@ey67 Simpleton? Remember the good ole days when Trump was president. Food was cheaper, gas was cheaper, electricity was cheaper, housing was cheaper, energy was cheaper, interest rates were lower, the border was secure. Now the average American is paying an extra seven hundred dollars a month just for basics because of de mentia Joe's bidenflation and bidenomics. Facts matter, simpleton..
Don't Complain, it's Capitalism....that's how it works, the rich control what they want when they want
I live in Reno NV and we have the same problem here, Californian's pouring in like crazy and traffic is off the hook! There's a GOBK2CA license plate drawing a lot of criticism.
Reno is a dump. Californians are improving it.
Sad thing is. All anyone cares about is money anymore. Bozeman and beIgrade was beautiful when I was a child. But In 2018… that all changed. I blame mostly the cell phones and internet for disrupting our own image of ourselves. Sad to see the rich only care about profit and not even their family. Humanity is dooming itself yet once again.
Also glacier national park is way prettier than Yellowstone. Head into northern Montana for the real Montanan experience.
It just keeps happening and it'll never stop. Hell, it happened to Seattle in the 90s and Portland after that. Buckle up...
I was in a rodeo one time. Well sort of. What happened is that I was walking down the sidewalk of crime ridden Portland Oregon. Some guy ran past me and grabbed the purse off my shoulder. My reflexes kicked and I grabbed onto my purse strap as he was pulling it over my shoulder. My grip was tight. I held onto my purse like I was a cowboy in a rodeo. An Uber driver came to my rescue eventually and scared the robber off. The attack probably lasted a minute or two, but it was frightening. So this is my rodeo story because it was like being in one.
Wow good for you!!
I'm so glad someone came to help you from being robbed! Sounded like a terrifying experience!😱
I enjoyed the music and video. The blues flu is infecting everywhere. So sad
Rent doubled for me in Bozeman after I graduated college. From 400/month in 2018 to 950/month in 2022. It’s definitely sad to see. We all love and hold on to what we know Montana as growing up there. The nostalgia of the open plains and cowboys, it’s slowly slipping away. I grew up riding dirtbikes on the top of every mountain range including the Bridger’s. My dad grew up riding anywhere he wanted, but most of those spots are now shut down.
Breaks my Heart seeing all them duplexs and houses crowded together. I used to run across Montana 3 or 4 times a month the 16 years I drove longhaul. What a shame.
The SAMENESS of the houses is soul-killing.
It's what it seems like. Anything that could've been interesting has just been eaten up by the development borg.
Yes
Brutalist architecture. Just like the grey boxes of the old USSR. Designed to break people's spirit through visual input.
@@Jericho396
What Real Estate agency is building these homes and developments, and what is the bank that loaned them the money to do this?
I sure would like to know...
Hedge funds managers like Black stone or black something. Steve Schwartzman CEO has 35 7 billion dollars for buying all the new homes and apts and tripling the rents. Plus they can sell it later to the wealthy all over the world. Americans are screwed but they voted for this since saint Ronny reagan. Predatory capitalism. Then blame the homeless. It will continue this way until our ponzi scheme economy crashes.
You know why you can leave your car running outside in Montana?! Because everybody that a REAL AMERICAN is pack’n heat!!!💪🇺🇸💯🦅!!!
One long winter and they'll be headed south!
Wait til they get a REAL bad winter
Cold to the bone cold with lots and lots of snow. It is too windy for me; I lived in Chicago (with the wind off the Lakes), a Colorado cabin, above treeline up in the Rockies. Now, I am in Reno, Nevada, in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. But all these places don't even count (wind-wise) to the open ranges of Montana. Brrrr
yup--I live in MN and the winters are brutal and newcomers often leave once they go through one. MT winters have to be worse in many ways.
They'll just sell to the next round of idiots in the spring and the cycle will continue...
I’m totally rethinking my plan to sell my old west style house on 10 remote acres above the rim in Arizona. I don’t know where this world is headed anymore. I might as well retreat 100% into an 1870 lifestyle where nobody can even find me.
Will you still have CZcams though?
@@NickJohnson just to watch you!
I used to listen to the NPR station out of Bozeman on the internet because digital feed was exceptionally clear. That's how I came to know about Bozeman.
Im deeply sad for whats happened to Bozeman. I first came through in 92 and loved it. I hope places west like Troy, Noxon, Thompson Falls and the like will be spared the California Cancer...mostly because thats where im looking. There or just far north Idaho...
Have to point one thing out. There didn’t appear to be any boarded up, vacant storefronts in downtown. Something a lot of towns can’t say.
That is only because it’s just getting started, and the sad part is, they are NOT trying to STOP IT!
There never is during the boom.
Yeah, but for an all white state (virtually), it's still filled with drugs, crime, and welfare! Your only bragging point is that it's virtually all white!
That's because not quite enough batsh*t crazy far-left nutjobs have moved in yet to open up downtown to looting.
@dalepxp8963 It's started in 1854, yup brand new.😂 People will keep coming here because they realize how nice it is. At least a third of the new people move out after a harsh winner usually 😂
I lived in western Montana, then in eastern Montana 30 years ago, and uber-weathly people were moving there. Bozeman and Missoula were always more expensive, people were always complaining about "outsiders" moving there (I guess I was one of those) People would always say "the only way to make money here is to have money when you move here." So none of this stuff is new.
Boy oh boy, now THAT'S seeing a town from inside to outside! Nick outdid himself this time! Thanks, Nick, for the "loo review"!!
This native Floridian understands exactly what you guys are dealing with - overcrowded, over-development, too many people moving for the infrastructure to be able to keep up, more people brings more traffic, fraud, crime, bad policies/voting interests, etc. driving up insurance rates and making the cost of living absolutely ridiculous, among hundreds of other reasons. My husband and I are some of the few who want to move out of Florida and have a 5 year plan to do so - just waiting for my son to graduate high school. We were looking North and saw how expensive land was in MT because of these problems and have shifted our search to SD or AK - land is cheaper, less people, more remote but still relatively close to facilities, no state taxes, etc. We're used to extremes in weather, both hot and cold, and we're fairly self-sufficient enough to live semi-off-grid if need be.
You’d love Tennessee! I just moved back to Florida from Tennessee (for work)
@@ALEXANDERBELL0 We love TN, especially the Eastern side near the Smokies, but land prices are 2-3 times more expensive than SD or AK. We like no state income taxes, but TN doesn't allow medical marijuana so our focus has shifted further North for now.
I went through Bozeman after a day in Yellowstone. I got stuck there for a night holy crap the place is more expensive than most of California couldn't believe it. Reminds me a lot like Flagstaff, AZ but even more expensive.
I see so many people who have gotten lucky (also worked hard but luck plays a part) and life has worked out for them, and they tend to adapt this idea that they are somehow better than the guy who life didn’t work out for. And that’s the real problem. No one lifts the next guy up.
Yeah. It's so unfair. The harder you work, the luckier you seem to get. Who would have thunk it?
@@RonaldReagan99-oh2dv You never heard of after you have done well to PAY IT FORWARD to someone who would benefit from an opportunity?
Sure, President JFK said, "Life is UNfair" but the Kennedys have "Paid it forward" many times over because they have been blessed and extend that blessing to others. Cheers
@@staralioflundnv i was being sarcastic. People who sacrifice pleasure today for rewards tomorrow usually do much better than the ones who piss all their money away. Read the "ant and grasshopper" story. I have no sympathy for people who make bad decisions.
@@RonaldReagan99-oh2dvReagan policies got us in this mess. Tax cuts and deregulation just shovel more money back into the hands of the wealthy.
There’s a reason wages started stagnating back in 1983. Frickin boomers like you ruined this country.
You passed by my old house 😀. ..wow has the place changed, It was extremely expensive back then my 4 bedroom house was 325000. I’m sure it would go for a lot more these days… I miss it, but I’m glad I left it’s definitely not the same
Good job on the reality check here. I have seen this before twice in NC and in Jackson Hole in the 1980's. Welcome to America Montana. What is missing is that Central and Eastern Montana is still being depopulated every year for the last thirty.
Such beauty, becoming cluttered,& unaffordable. The theme of America 🇺🇸 these days. Sad state of affairs.😞
Politicians are just puppets to the 1% mega-billionaires.
That's a damn shame! It's such a pretty place, or it used to be.
It's called "Sustainable Housing" architecture & it's horrible looking IMO.
@@faraday6884 It sustains fat profits for the shareholders and directors.
Yes,it was beautiful until the Natives were killed or pushed out by White people.
In Oregon it is common to have former Californians complain about other Californians moving here.
How sad to see the beautiful Montana going down the drain like many more states!! I been there around ten years ago, and it didn’t look nothing like that. It was so beautiful, clean, and free of homeless and campers. Unbelievable!! If they don’t stop the campers epidemic it will turn out like LA or many others states going down the drain.
"BozAngeles"...classic ! When you see so many cars parked on the streets, you know those houses are packed with people.
Many of these state legislatures and cities are their own worst enemy. When these wealthy individuals and developers come in there should be ordinances to ensure they pay for the infrastructure. Also set aside lower income housing in the form of good apartments for the working class like teachers etc.
Lower income housing tends to attract the dregs of society, like single mothers, drug addicts and people who barely want to work. All of those people bring vices with them and won't control their own behavior. More lower income housing doesn't solve anything when there's no jobs with which to elevate one's own position.
The government will,never work for the people in a real sense. The wealth divide gets bigger and bigger. The ones on top will always benefit, while the bottom grows and grows. I wonder how much longer there will be a middle class.
They're all making money off of it. Why would they change it ?
As a single mother who worked full-time in a responsible job and raised three wonderful children, I am astonished that you refer to me (and all other single mothers) as the "dregs of society". @@ColonelHoganStalag13
Poor Mappy😂😂😂 hilarious and informative video!! You are the best!! Great jacket !
My friend is a bozeman native and him and his wife got priced out of the little old 2 bedroom they rented when rent tripled in 1 year. He says you can’t find ANYTHING under 1 million dollars now, not even a lot without a house
Back in the early 90s my fiancé and I moved to LA because of work. We thought we would be there awhile so we looked for housing. Most of the basic not fancy at all SFH (single family homes) we looked at were up around $700,000 to 1 million. We rented. I think a lot of the influx to the Rocky Mt west is families who just want to raise their family in a safe, beautiful, place with dew still on it (to quote A River Runs Thru It.) I get it! I thought and still think CA, OR, and WA have great bones as far as the land. It is stunning with ocean and mountain. When the flesh on top of those stunning places decides to shape back up again people will move back maybe 3 decades from now. The shutdown hurt so much of the country. No tax revenue from all the businesses that shut down and the vacum left that undesirable elements filled.
Your piece is satire with some reality. I get that but I truly don’t think a lot of the folks moving in are Uber rich they are California’s middle and upper middle class. They work or own businesses that employ others. And Bozeman being the most liberal city in the state ….. have you been to Missoula.
Try going back in February and let's see how lovely it is to walk around outside in shorts and a tee-shirt living in a camper with no insulation and exposed pipes.
And yet,there they are.
Lived in Heron. Star Route 3 Box 11 for a while in the 70's. Worked for Asarco till they got busted poisoning the Clark Fork. Cabinet is the greatest. Love your stuff
This is happening Everywhere!
I moved from Toronto to LA in 1989 and don't worry, I'm staying here.
The homeless problem is growing nationally. But I cannot wrap my head around what these people are going to do in winter. My brother lived in Anaconda, loved it but said the winters were BRUTAL, and he had a place to live. He moved to Colorado.
So your brother was roughing it and decides to move to one of the most expensive states in America? I live in Colorado… born and raised, I make around $100k a year and I can’t make ends meet. Gonna have to move to Missouri I think
They all moved to CO and turned it into Calirado, all the locals are gone. Pathetic!
You should see all the homeless in Alaska. They get by in the winter
@@thomasgoff4700 The other states are just getting what they gave California for the last 100 years. Nobody cried for us.
Gotta say, I have a lot of understanding for the working poor. Rent is just too expensive along with everything else. I don’t know how people are getting by these days. 🥺
Teach your kids about property ownership when they’re young.
I love your videos!! Keep up the good work ❤❤
People complain when their towns are dying, and complain when people move in. Complaining is the only constant.
People want businesses to come in for them, not for businesses to come in with a bunch of other a-holes and raise prices so high, they now have to lose their family home.
@@LGshine0007 that’s irrational to think you can have business expansion without population expansion. If the talent and resources were there in the first place your town wouldn’t be declining.
@@Name-vu1kn I never said it made sense, what I am saying is that people want to have their cake and eat it to.
@@LGshine0007 yup and that leads us back to folks complaining! 😂
@@Name-vu1kn lol, I realize looking back at my first comment it seems like I was trying to disagree, it was more trying to explain maybe the feeling/thought process.
Those people in trashy RV's may not realize how cold it gets there.
They have propane and wood. I think they do know.
You should see the homeless in Alaska
@@John3.36 That might be barely enough not to freeze to death but the under side of the travel trailers have water and pipes that can rupture. Depending on how old they are or what level of modifications were made, some might find they cannot take a shower or wash dishes.
So true! I lived here late 70’s and remember walking to work through the neighborhood to town felt life threatening, due to extreme wind chill factor around 60 degrees.
I grew up near a trailer park that was by a nice river out of sight from main road. They never caused problems, it was just an affordable way to live. Something missing these days.
Thank you for this interesting post showing different parts of the state. They are also looking somewhat depressed, and a mixture of both like everywhere else even here and Long Beach, Calif. thank you for this interesting post showing different parts of the state. They are also looking somewhat depressed, and a mixture of both like everywhere else even here and Long Beach, California