Pike County murder trial: Jake's ex-wife takes the stand in trial of George Wagner IV

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • Elizabeth Armer, the woman who married Jake Wagner in Alaska and moved back with the family to Ohio, took the witness stand Friday, describing her time living in the family's home two years after eight members of the Rhoden family were murdered in Pike County. After only three months, she said she was threatened, and fled the family. READ SUMMARY HERE: bit.ly/3F6ubAZ

Komentáře • 945

  • @nalanimulcahy8451
    @nalanimulcahy8451 Před rokem +82

    So her police officer 'friend' says call if you need help, she calls, needing help after being threatened, and he tells her she's being 'emotional' and wants to talk to the person threatening her. Thats a crappy friend and it's terrifying that he's a police officer.

    • @cassiebennet4262
      @cassiebennet4262 Před 9 měsíci +15

      That part was truly awful. Then people will say things about victims of abuse like "wHy DiDn'T sHe JuSt lEaVe?" Some people have no support system to leave. The abuser(s) can be excellent at manipulating others outside of the situation although this "friend" seemed to have already decided that she was over reacting and "emotional." 🤦‍♀️

    • @catsberry4858
      @catsberry4858 Před 9 měsíci +7

      He was awfulllll

    • @Chicagocubbiegirl
      @Chicagocubbiegirl Před 9 měsíci

      I think this moron also vouched for the Wagners when Jake proposed to her. He's either just as corrupt as they are or he's a blithering idiot. Or both. He must be the crappies cop in AK.

    • @Monroered3698
      @Monroered3698 Před 9 měsíci +8

      @@marythomas1198 she was probably terrified.

    • @PieceMind-rq8yx
      @PieceMind-rq8yx Před 8 měsíci +9

      I'm guessing that cop made the offer so he could keep official reports from being filed & head off any "trouble" coming to the family. Crooked sheriff too.

  • @narmrn
    @narmrn Před rokem +202

    This young woman makes my heart hurt. She is beautiful and gentle and clearly introspective and well spoken. What a terrible situation she found herself in.

    • @pauldalton5575
      @pauldalton5575 Před rokem

      She beautiful and obviously well educated. I'M sure that she will be a very successful business woman what ever she does.This family should all rot in Hell!!!

    • @EFFEZE
      @EFFEZE Před rokem

      Beautiful?????, her kite is fucked. And that fucking wig is dead as fuck to.

    • @LKre-vi5oq
      @LKre-vi5oq Před rokem

      Proof that narcisstic monsters (Jake) can be utterly charming and polite when wooing and painting their bs in broad strokes. Once they get control, their true nature rises, glad this well educated, well-spoken, sweet and honest woman was able to get out asap.
      The entire Wagner family is deranged, violent, sociopathic, stupid, greedy and ultra-controlling. Especially the males.

    • @throatpunch4789
      @throatpunch4789 Před rokem +14

      Thats why you dont jump in the car with the first guy that comes along....SCARY!!!

    • @FLOWER-rl7nh
      @FLOWER-rl7nh Před rokem

      @@throatpunch4789 WHO DID THAT?-
      JUMP IN A CAR WITH A STR NERVE

  • @Herewearenowentertainus
    @Herewearenowentertainus Před rokem +385

    What an outstanding witness. This woman was the true definition of a star witness. No matter what she went through, they couldn’t get to her. She got on the stand she painted a painfully detailed portrait of just how f*cked up this family was.

    • @dyanalynn6698
      @dyanalynn6698 Před rokem +26

      I agree…Didn’t they say she was “weird”.. no she was the only one in that family that seemed to know what it meant to provide for the emotional needs of the children…and wasn’t allowed to do so. That adds even more stress. 😔

    • @EbonyJ-rt5bb
      @EbonyJ-rt5bb Před rokem +8

      I agree 💯🎯✔️

    • @ivdddoxiemama7275
      @ivdddoxiemama7275 Před rokem +6

      She sure did!

    • @challanger275
      @challanger275 Před rokem +11

      @@ivdddoxiemama7275 I think the old judge is just too cautious. He’s just too cautious he would never do under Brooks trial.

    • @BH-1964
      @BH-1964 Před rokem +8

      @@challanger275 most judges would have demanded Brooke's respect the court... never disrespect the court and make a mockery as he did. Grounds! 🤦‍♀️

  • @c.h1965
    @c.h1965 Před rokem +317

    My heart goes out to this brave young lady. I hope she goes on to have a happy healthy n productive life, she is so lucky she got away from those monsters.

    • @leotachaney7322
      @leotachaney7322 Před rokem +42

      At some point her life would indeed have been in danger had she not been able to get away from them. I believe Angela would have sealed her fate. She is, without a doubt, the manipulator responsible for the murder of 8 people. To have been given only 30 years behind bars is a travesty of justice!

    • @pattih7
      @pattih7 Před rokem +2

      Yes!

    • @beautifuldisaster139
      @beautifuldisaster139 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @therealz360z7 charles manson was 83 when he died in prison so ur comment is ignorant because there’s ppl over 80 in prison not everyone dies before 80 😂

  • @ivannio8519
    @ivannio8519 Před rokem +231

    Elizabeth possess all the characters this murderous family lacks. Strong and honest she is. I wish her all the best for the rest of her life.

    • @FLOWER-rl7nh
      @FLOWER-rl7nh Před rokem

      THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE....THE WAGNERS WERE TRYING TO BE SO CAREFUL BECAUSE RHEY WERE 😔 😭 GUILTY! MAKING SURE THEY KEPT JAKE'S WIFE LIKE A 👍 PRISONER....
      BUT SOONER OR LATER SHE LET THE WAGNERS
      HAVE IT....WHAT MADE THEM 🤔 THINK THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH MURDERING 8MEMBERS OF A FAMILY, WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING 🤔..,
      I AM NOT SORRY THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THEIR CRIME, AND I STILL DON'T THINK THAT IS ENOUGH !
      3 PEOPLE KILLED 8
      IN A VERY SHORT TIME, SO THEY CAN SPEND THE REST OF THEIR LIVES 🔐 UP...TO WONDER IF THAT WAS A VERY GOOOD IDEA....ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE
      DONE😉.............
      have a good 👍rest of your lives WAGNERS!!

    • @tonih1385
      @tonih1385 Před rokem +8

      For real For real 💯

    • @melaniebrown768
      @melaniebrown768 Před rokem +6

      Agreed!

    • @tofly4wifi898
      @tofly4wifi898 Před rokem +4

      So beautifully said thank you for sharing

    • @sondog1983
      @sondog1983 Před rokem

      👍🏻 yep, she is a decent human, sad she got saddled with that family of scum

  • @jenniferharrelson7218
    @jenniferharrelson7218 Před 9 měsíci +62

    She was so nervous but so brave during the testimony. How did she end up living with such terrible people?

    • @gericummings6122
      @gericummings6122 Před 8 měsíci +3

      She married Jake.

    • @keepitforreally4501
      @keepitforreally4501 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Probably had no place else to go or was scared

    • @junejune1031
      @junejune1031 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Wonder that too. Where were her family and friends when she was making that choice to marry someone she barely knew. Feel like she’s perhaps had a sheltered life.

  • @NLHester
    @NLHester Před rokem +107

    Elizabeth Armer is the Bomb. Imagine what she's been through. imaging growing up in an Amish Mennonite community , safe and secluded than moving out to Alaska to run into the Wagner family. Is there anything worse that could happen?
    People found her behavior strange. If only they knew what they know now. What she went through during those few months. Mentally abused, being accused, threatened, checked spied on by in-laws and their family members, her husband.
    To see BethAnn in court today; fragile but strong, convincing and sincerely answering every question. I believe she will be one of the key witnesses in all Wagner trials.

    • @saramonson990
      @saramonson990 Před rokem

      demonic group of evil freaks

    • @lorismith621
      @lorismith621 Před rokem +13

      You have hit the nail on the head Thank you I hope previous witnesses against Beth give their head a shake!

    • @petakucas7389
      @petakucas7389 Před rokem +19

      Armish…. That explains her total obedience 😢, I hope she has become a truely autonomous strong women.

  • @lindsaym7256
    @lindsaym7256 Před rokem +108

    I could listen to her explain how paint dries, for hours. What a calm, well spoken, eloquent woman. I wish her peace in her future.

  • @lornaduwn
    @lornaduwn Před rokem +122

    I watch a lot of court cases and this young lady is the best witness I have ever seen take the stand.

    • @trishkuhne550
      @trishkuhne550 Před rokem +7

      I agree…..A real superstar. She put you there! George just got found guilty!

  • @egretion
    @egretion Před rokem +292

    She knocked it out of the park. She and Tabitha. I am so proud of both these ladies and send them all my care and respect.

    • @dholla444
      @dholla444 Před rokem +40

      I second that! This “family” were controlling predators… I bet it is burning them all up that these ladies have the courage to speak up!

    • @bettydavis1622
      @bettydavis1622 Před rokem +14

      amen !

    • @Itsjustme115
      @Itsjustme115 Před rokem +37

      the way the brother of Angela and his wife depicted this woman was that she was strange or weird I thought she did an amazing job recognizing how crazy the Wagners are and getting herself to safety! I pray this young lady and Tabitha can get some form of normalcy back once ALL the Wagners are sentenced to life

    • @bekindalways9957
      @bekindalways9957 Před rokem +12

      I can't even imagine being part of this family I would have NEVER been able to have a goodnight sleep. I just don't understand this family. It's like the Mother was the boss n ran the show, she had Billy, George, & Jake do what she wanted when she wanted. I can't imagine being treated like these 2 poor girls.

    • @rubyrigdon9938
      @rubyrigdon9938 Před rokem +15

      I feel like chris Newcomb got ALOT OF explaining to do

  • @blacknosugarnocream
    @blacknosugarnocream Před rokem +43

    Wow, wow, wow! She is not only poised under pressure, but she is an insightful young woman. Her journal entries about Angela's dysfunctional personality and behavior were spot on.
    Clearly she was raised in an emotionally balanced environment. She was able to see their bizarre family life for exactly that.
    I hope nothing but the best for her life going forward.

  • @tylerw8216
    @tylerw8216 Před 9 měsíci +16

    If you read this Elizabeth, hold your head high young lady. You did a fantastic job as a witness. I am honored to have witnessed your courage and intelligent manner. God Bless!

  • @carolmarinemom0343
    @carolmarinemom0343 Před rokem +148

    I really like Beth Ann. Wow she was amazing. The defense couldn’t put a crack in her. Way to be strong 💪🏻 Beth Ann and strong minded to get the hell out of dodge!! You saved your own life. You have made many women proud.

    • @readg4fun
      @readg4fun Před rokem +2

      Is Beth Ann the prosecutor ?

    • @merry8545
      @merry8545 Před rokem

      @@readg4fun Beth Ann is the warrior that survived and testified against that diabolical EVIL family of killers - she was married to Jake so Beth Ann was the witness ... the prosecutor never lived with this extremely deranged family ...

    • @10sherra
      @10sherra Před rokem +6

      @@readg4fun No she is Jake's ex wife married 3 months to him after they had killed the Rhodens and she met Jake a year later in 2017

    • @nickyb7266
      @nickyb7266 Před rokem +7

      Absolutely! She is lucky to be alive! Strong lady!

  • @catdog7497
    @catdog7497 Před rokem +150

    This young woman speaks so gently, so eloquently, and forms her thoughts concisely and artfully. If she wrote a book about her experience - I would buy it. I hope she does write a book.

    • @pauldalton5575
      @pauldalton5575 Před rokem +11

      I would love to read it.I may need therapy afterwards I'm sure.

    • @EFFEZE
      @EFFEZE Před rokem +2

      She doesn't have thoughts. No need. This is just the live version of what she and the prosecution have been rehearsing for weeks. Every answer has adding info to then perfectly tee up the next question she's not meant to know obviously

    • @carolyneasley8980
      @carolyneasley8980 Před rokem +4

      I hope someone writes a book.

    • @SHEEPLESUCK
      @SHEEPLESUCK Před rokem +9

      @@EFFEZE so what are you saying?

    • @hedykarim3614
      @hedykarim3614 Před rokem +1

      Yes I hope she finds some healing

  • @pamsawyer6615
    @pamsawyer6615 Před rokem +42

    Wow. What a testimony. She is lucky to have survived. God bless her 10 fold.

  • @olive3700
    @olive3700 Před rokem +42

    What a lovely, soft spoken young lady. She prevailed against an entire family of murderers, including the world's worst mother-in-law.

  • @jamiemiesler322
    @jamiemiesler322 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Even if they weren’t a pack of evil trolls they should serve at least some jail time for naming an innocent child “Bovine”. If you were to call someone that it’s an insult. It means cow or stupid. Very sad. I hope the mother changed that child’s name.

  • @paulaoppedisano6460
    @paulaoppedisano6460 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Angela is a narcissistic cult leader and had her family completely under her control. Except this gem of woman. Soft spoken, highly intelligent, classy lady.

  • @BW12149
    @BW12149 Před rokem +44

    What a sweet voice she has. It’s so horrible that she came into contact with such evil folks. I certainly hope she can escape fully in her mind from what happened, and that she will have a blessed future and life with good people.

  • @paulagenovesi8639
    @paulagenovesi8639 Před rokem +113

    She’s so articulate. I hope she writes a book!

    • @Herewearenowentertainus
      @Herewearenowentertainus Před rokem +22

      She really is! They must have targeted her thinking she was a pushover & easy to manipulate. They sure as hell panicked when she pointed out the picture with jakes hand on the gun, and I would bet ( imo) she had a huge target on her back from that point forward. Her eyes were wide open and Angela wasn’t having any of that.

    • @spicyirwin5835
      @spicyirwin5835 Před rokem +15

      @@Herewearenowentertainus Angela not into reading yet she homeschooled her sons?

    • @dixonbidenzmouth4115
      @dixonbidenzmouth4115 Před rokem +14

      ​@@spicyirwin5835 Great homeschooling evidenced by their speech: I done knowed she was lyin'

    • @leotachaney7322
      @leotachaney7322 Před rokem +2

      @@spicyirwin5835 says a lot doesn't it!

    • @sleuthhound8938
      @sleuthhound8938 Před rokem +3

      I was thinking she should be an author too!

  • @leotachaney7322
    @leotachaney7322 Před rokem +32

    Beth, I and Many Others are very happy to see that you got away from this batch of evil people. I do believe had you not been rescued by your family and friends you would have suffered a similar fate as the Rhoden family. Stay well and prosper in your new life!

  • @bridgettsutherly5866
    @bridgettsutherly5866 Před rokem +58

    George is sitting there laughing. Boy I swear. They should ALL got Death Penalty. The audacity too sit in that court room. And smirk. Shows just how narcissist they are.

    • @CandyiHeart
      @CandyiHeart Před rokem +19

      Right! And his lawyer laughing with him. Completely disgusting

    • @patrickmann1777
      @patrickmann1777 Před rokem +4

      George isn't laughing today 12/20/22

    • @taradise_x
      @taradise_x Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@patrickmann1777 Definitely still not laughing today 3/6/24

  • @lizf1353
    @lizf1353 Před rokem +23

    How do you feel NOW "Friend" who was a COP and had a woman call you terrified asking for help and you left her with a group of killers and told her she was "Emotional"... another example of minimizing a woman's voice and it could have cost her life! If you're reading this I hope you're ashamed of yourself.

  • @glossypots
    @glossypots Před rokem +73

    Since Angela has a habit of accusing other women of inappropriate touching it makes me wonder if this is something she does. It’s often the case as in when a spouse is having an affair they accuse their partner of the same behaviour. It seems to be something she’s obsessed with.

    • @jessicathomas73
      @jessicathomas73 Před rokem +1

      I honestly think she was inappropriate with her sons. She used to get into bed with her married son George, whilst he and his wife lived in Angela's house, and would rub his back at night. Angela also seems obsessed with the sex lives of her sons. Angela seems to be an all out creepy, controlling, sex obsessed weirdo.

    • @Jeda624
      @Jeda624 Před rokem +14

      Definitely what I’ve always thought. She has easy access and makes the kids sleep with her…weird. Or they all used the kids for that…

    • @SS11660
      @SS11660 Před rokem +14

      And what about Angela sleeping with the little boy! Wonder about that!!!

    • @bh0931
      @bh0931 Před rokem +7

      Exactly what I thought

    • @miaevans8725
      @miaevans8725 Před rokem +14

      That is exactly what I'm thinking is going on and Angela is afraid those babies will tell on her if they are allowed to have a NORMAL relationship with any other adults

  • @benjaminperez1149
    @benjaminperez1149 Před rokem +17

    Bullvine is an awful name for a child. He isn’t an animal.

    • @lindaarrington9397
      @lindaarrington9397 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I thought the same thing
      His awful father must have named him
      If I was her I'd change it fast

  • @jenniferbradford9304
    @jenniferbradford9304 Před rokem +20

    Mad respect for Ms Arner. She was oustanding. Extremely well read and wonderful presence. I hope she goes on to great things!!

  • @sevenitta-_-
    @sevenitta-_- Před rokem +68

    How the hell did Jake ever get this sweet, respectful, articulate young lady??

    • @codybarry8204
      @codybarry8204 Před rokem +7

      Slim pickings in some parts.

    • @elizabethhardersen9679
      @elizabethhardersen9679 Před rokem +21

      Met in church. He played the part expected. Thank goodness she got out. Angela Wagner was running her own abusive cult

    • @MochaPony
      @MochaPony Před rokem +8

      I wondered the same. So well spoken and classy.

    • @KelilahJudah
      @KelilahJudah Před rokem +3

      Because deep inside she has some of the same traits he does. It's just some people know how to tame their demons.

    • @normacolon9618
      @normacolon9618 Před rokem +3

      She was a mennonite, probably didnt know better, not out there in life knowing how things were. I would think shed pick someone of her same religion, unless they are also same religion

  • @jpmpa703
    @jpmpa703 Před rokem +67

    Some friend. I can't imagine how she felt when her friend sided with Jake. I hope he's remorseful knowing now that Jake killed so many

    • @normacolon9618
      @normacolon9618 Před rokem +5

      So that cop, Friend, pastor of church, I knew for some reason they knew the wagoners from church.

    • @lindaarrington9397
      @lindaarrington9397 Před 5 měsíci

      I think they knew them from something
      They had money and land she didn't that counts in my crooked County

  • @sandife4nandes365
    @sandife4nandes365 Před rokem +198

    Tabitha and Beth did a fantastic job on the stand. They are also survivors of the Wagner family. Hannah Rhoden was equally as strong and intelligent to get out of the dysfunctional relationship with Jake. Sadly, her life as well as her family's life were taken by the Wagners because she would not allow them to control her. She was an incredibly strong 19 year old woman. RIP to the 8 human beings that lost their lives by a family of pure evil!

    • @BobSmith-ll9ol
      @BobSmith-ll9ol Před rokem +1

      Hannah was not strong. She was a freeloader

    • @cheesehead4670
      @cheesehead4670 Před rokem

      @@BobSmith-ll9ol worry about your bald headed ass, Bob and leave the sane folks to talk.

    • @FLOWER-rl7nh
      @FLOWER-rl7nh Před rokem +11

      @@BobSmith-ll9ol WHY do you say that? Were you supporting her?

    • @jeanP924
      @jeanP924 Před rokem +17

      Tabbitha escaped within an inch of her life, like Elizabeth did. The Wagner's threatened to beat her to death with a baseball bat wrapped with razor sharp barbed wire, named Lucille.
      The Wagner's are cold blooded killers that will never change their spots. I can't help but to think Angela was abusing Bulvine and Sophia to make it appear Beth was abusing them sexually and immediately make her an enemy. Jake wanted a love interest and Angela was too jealous to even let Beth out of her sight. Angela imo was so obsessed with controlling her family, she was willing to let them go to jail or die by lethal injection all in the name of the family cult (ure) and control.

    • @BigLYKfan
      @BigLYKfan Před rokem +17

      @ Bob Smith, how do u figure?Sounds like you have a problem w/Hannah Roden? What could that possibly be? After all that poor girl is dead!

  • @valerieslater3029
    @valerieslater3029 Před rokem +99

    This is a very strong woman who should never have been with these horrific morons. They fooled her innocent person into believing they were good people and then once she got into their horrible lives she just wanted to get the hell out. She is such a calm and honest witness, there is no disputing that, and I hope she is happy now, she deserves to be. Good for her that they couldnt get to her, she is a hero....and lucky to still be alive apparently !!

    • @LKre-vi5oq
      @LKre-vi5oq Před rokem +2

      Totally agree

    • @hayleyedwards9100
      @hayleyedwards9100 Před rokem +3

      That is exactly what they are morons !!!!!!! Perfect word to describe them . They seriously talked about bulldozing their way out of jail . What in the red neck heck was going on in that house. This women is a beautiful and articulate soul who got manipulated into thinking that they were the complete opposite of what they really are at first . And it didn’t take too long for her to see right through them . She’s very intuitive intelligent, calm , and kind . She seen things at every angle before they could even start . And it’s just fascinating how she could remember things the way she did .

    • @normacolon9618
      @normacolon9618 Před rokem +1

      Cause Angela’s son were in on it. It was a ploy.

  • @readg4fun
    @readg4fun Před rokem +67

    Jake sounds scary. He promised not to consummate their marriage on their wedding night and broke his promise. She mentioned that it was inappropriate to be intimate while his daughter was in the bedroom with them and again he didn’t care. Sounds like he as selfish as the rest of the family.

    • @spicyirwin5835
      @spicyirwin5835 Před rokem

      Tabby was 11 but Hannah had proof they had sex & in Calif that would be rape. Adults dont have sex with kids.

    • @CDMButterfly
      @CDMButterfly Před rokem +22

      I kept thinking, isn't that rape?

    • @stevemeredith9022
      @stevemeredith9022 Před rokem +13

      @@CDMButterfly yes it most certainly is.😊

    • @AaronMcLane-j7j
      @AaronMcLane-j7j Před rokem

      @@CDMButterfly yes it seams she was raped multiple times.

    • @SS11660
      @SS11660 Před rokem

      Also she said he wanted the little girl in bed with them,.

  • @cdelane3335
    @cdelane3335 Před rokem +48

    Angela definitely controlled that household.

  • @trishkuhne550
    @trishkuhne550 Před rokem +43

    Superb testimony!!! I actually felt the fear when describing the murder threat and escape 😮 I cannot believe those liars, arsonist, thieves and murderers actually thought they were the better choice for parents. Beth really put you there! Fantastic testimony!!!👍🏻

  • @todd3205
    @todd3205 Před rokem +40

    After working in a County Common Pleas Court for 9 years, i am well aware of how young people can make mistakes about who they choose to be with, and the terrible sh t that happens sometimes. But how in the world could this poor young woman have foreseen what was in her future. All the best to you, Ms Armer. We hope you can shake as much of this nightmare off as is possible for you.

  • @dw_badger736
    @dw_badger736 Před rokem +28

    My heart goes out to this sweet gentle person. She was amazing on the stand. Wishing the best for her in the future.

  • @alfen0218
    @alfen0218 Před rokem +35

    I loved the way this witness schooled the defense on his nasty try to make a point about brain injury/brain damage

  • @jessicathomas73
    @jessicathomas73 Před rokem +64

    Beth Ann did an excellent job. I feel so sorry for her and what she went through. You can see how fearful she is. I am glad she was able to escape. I hope she has a much better life now.

    • @ndavis7789
      @ndavis7789 Před rokem +10

      When she first took a drink of water and you could literally see her hand tremble in fear, I felt so very terrible for her. Hopefully after all this she can go on to live a very happy life with a completely normal family who isn't psycho and controlling.

  • @dwisecup51
    @dwisecup51 Před rokem +65

    This young woman is the strongest person. She lived in a house full of evil people . I hope she lives a good life and put this all behind her. I was praying for her while she testified.

    • @spicyirwin5835
      @spicyirwin5835 Před rokem +4

      Tabby was stronger bc she knew to live she had to let them have Bulvine. Hannah preferred to be dead before giving up custody. Id agree with Hannah.

    • @saramonson990
      @saramonson990 Před rokem +2

      Yes!!!

    • @normacolon9618
      @normacolon9618 Před rokem +2

      Well if it wasn’t for these gangsters that agreed to let her go to friends and then college was it, she was able to escape. Her god helped her think and get away.

    • @lindaarrington9397
      @lindaarrington9397 Před 5 měsíci

      Me to
      I've lived alone after I got away
      For 30 years

  • @joleemeyer
    @joleemeyer Před rokem +29

    does George realize the jury sees him when he is giggling and making light of any woman in the court room?

    • @dixonbidenzmouth4115
      @dixonbidenzmouth4115 Před rokem +2

      I'm sure his attorney's told him how to act because he is on camera

    • @trishkuhne550
      @trishkuhne550 Před rokem +8

      George can only see through his own narrow lens. Very clouded and distorted.

  • @carolhewitt5631
    @carolhewitt5631 Před rokem +34

    In my opinion, Angela should at least have gotten life. She was the mastermind of this horrible massacre. Does anyone think that if she and Jake didn't plea guilty before all the witnesses testified how controlling Angela was and how out of control she would get, like throwing a 2x4 at Tabitha and threatening to get a gun, that she would get only 30 years and could get out sooner?

    • @LKre-vi5oq
      @LKre-vi5oq Před rokem

      BS. Jake and his idiot father were the master-minds. Jake is a violent, greedy and jealous sack of shite, all Wagner family members have testified to the fact that Angela AND George tried to talk these losers out of doing any of this repeatedly. Get your facts straight, you incel. The entire family are literally out of their minds. They'll all rot in hell thanks to rat-face Jake

    • @lindaarrington9397
      @lindaarrington9397 Před 5 měsíci

      Agree 💯

  • @Nickbragg97129
    @Nickbragg97129 Před rokem +39

    This young lady is lucky to survived this horrible family. I’m glad she got out safely. I wish her all the best in this life. She seems like she’s a very nice, beautiful and sweet young lady. It was because of her faith in God is the reason why survived. May God keep his hand upon this young lady for the rest of her life!!

  • @dianahernandez1709
    @dianahernandez1709 Před rokem +30

    In awe of how well she handled herself. What a well spoken beautiful young lady.

  • @DanC-go9lc
    @DanC-go9lc Před 8 měsíci +4

    I do not think it can possibly be under-estimated how much Elizabeth Armer's personal testimony impacted the jury. She has already been thru hell -- wish her the very best going forward in life.🙏

  • @mstat7776
    @mstat7776 Před rokem +19

    Psychopaths always target trusting, innocent people. My prayers go out to this young lady.

  • @Justme-jr
    @Justme-jr Před rokem +6

    Wow, I'm speachless, I never watched a witness on stand. I saw the crime story on tv, I decided to Google, to see the end. But she is a tough cookie one. Good bless you soul, you went thru a nightmare for 3 months. 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @helenphelan8184
    @helenphelan8184 Před rokem +20

    Such a beautiful, dignified, insightful lady! I hope she gets to live a full and happy life after going through this nightmare.

  • @elizabethslater3913
    @elizabethslater3913 Před rokem +16

    I don't understand what she ever saw in Jake and family. She is so smart and insightful..thankfully she's survived.

  • @dortheengqvist115
    @dortheengqvist115 Před rokem +16

    I like this chick.... When the defense questioned her she showed herself as a baddie.... She saw right through his questions and taught him what a hard workday is... Awesome....

    • @susanstarling7543
      @susanstarling7543 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Amazingly calm and well spoken.She is very lucky to have come through relatively unscathed. May God keep her safe and happy.

  • @thestoryteller8486
    @thestoryteller8486 Před rokem +16

    I’m so grateful she got out alive. God bless her. ❤

  • @Nativegirlslots
    @Nativegirlslots Před rokem +40

    This girl got everything right. I’m glad she got away from these crazy abusive people.

  • @todd3205
    @todd3205 Před rokem +30

    This woman is a top-notch person. It's so good that she escaped this screwed-up family with her life.

  • @kathybethell2901
    @kathybethell2901 Před rokem +65

    Thank you for going through this trial. Its so tedious.!! Big kudos to this young lady -so brave, articulate.

  • @jessicacarnahan6924
    @jessicacarnahan6924 Před rokem +65

    Mother In Law from Hell for real…. Poor girl getting involved with this chaos -

    • @lisamh9037
      @lisamh9037 Před rokem +2

      I found out that my ex mil (controlling narcissistic martyr matriarch of a big family) accused me (to others) of poisoning my kids. And before me accused another of my sis in laws of the same thing, plus poisoning her husband! When I was told these things by the 3rd sister in law (estranged) that's when I knew I was right and that woman was crazyyy.

  • @ginnysmith8624
    @ginnysmith8624 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I hope that woman rots under the jail! She's responsible for way more than what she was convicted. I hope Angela is in solitary confinement forever!! A narcissist who needed to control everything and everyone around her!!

  • @glee_again2594
    @glee_again2594 Před rokem +18

    She was amazing. Esp with the cross exam. He’s trying so hard to lead her a certain direction and she’s not having it. She’s brilliant. He tried to make her look naive & uneducated. However she proved the opposite. She sounded more poised than the lawyer!

  • @joycemcswain5279
    @joycemcswain5279 Před rokem +41

    This witness is lucky to be alive!

    • @trishkuhne550
      @trishkuhne550 Před rokem +12

      I bet she was closer to being “ disappeared “ than she even knows.

  • @notyrmom5698
    @notyrmom5698 Před rokem +17

    This girl is so intelligent and well spoken. How did she end up in this cesspool?

  • @alyciaesposito9013
    @alyciaesposito9013 Před rokem +58

    This poor girl 😞 All of them are monsters and would have eventually killed her too.

  • @lishahampton9121
    @lishahampton9121 Před 9 měsíci +4

    “He didn’t have it in him to murder” and “calm down”??? And he was law enforcement? Shame!!!

  • @michelleburnett5239
    @michelleburnett5239 Před rokem +29

    She’s an amazing witness. Calm, articulate and believable.

  • @spicyirwin5835
    @spicyirwin5835 Před rokem +37

    Poor Beth from being a missionary to living with true evil family. Angela is a total control freak & I bet they planned on using her good identity for credit. Glad she's alive & befriended Sofia & Bulvine!💜🙏💜

    • @mstat7776
      @mstat7776 Před rokem +7

      Maybe God needed someone strong like her to expose the truth.

    • @allisonb.8492
      @allisonb.8492 Před rokem +2

      @@mstat7776 wow great point.

  • @MarseeWalton45
    @MarseeWalton45 Před rokem +63

    How did such an intelligent young lady get involved with such a wicked family? She was brilliant on the witness stand.

    • @spicyirwin5835
      @spicyirwin5835 Před rokem +14

      She was naive being a missionary but well read so book smart not evil smart. Tabby knew evil but Hannah never thought she & her whole family would be killed.

    • @stormybleu6054
      @stormybleu6054 Před rokem +13

      I think she had an Amish background, if so then as she said she did not have enough experience with men.

    • @chrissearer1896
      @chrissearer1896 Před rokem

      @@stormybleu6054 It sounds like German accent yet perfect English, Amish? I was wondering “ mail order bride”? Yikes! What a Hillbilly Parade of Horribles!
      No need to cut a deal, all should get Death Penalty or not have it in OHIO at all. Sheesh 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @EFFEZE
      @EFFEZE Před rokem

      Because she likes "bad boys" and was in on all the schemes etc. Wouldn't surprise me if she was in on the early plans of this whole plot.

    • @stormybleu6054
      @stormybleu6054 Před rokem

      @@EFFEZE Take your boring troll ass....anywhere.

  • @heathernikki5734
    @heathernikki5734 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Bless this young lady, God be with her and let her live happily with a normal family

  • @teresasissom5117
    @teresasissom5117 Před 8 měsíci +4

    My heart breaks for this beautiful young lady. My prayers go out for you Elizabeth!

  • @AaronMcLane-j7j
    @AaronMcLane-j7j Před rokem +22

    Strong and beautiful young lady. Smart, eloquent and brave! Thanks god she saved her self from these monsters.

  • @_Churchy
    @_Churchy Před rokem +11

    How does a nice young lady like her get mixed up with a toxic family like the Wagner's? I hope she is able to heal and find peace and happiness in her life. She's fantastic.

  • @mercedesadler9386
    @mercedesadler9386 Před rokem +33

    Sounds like Angela is jealous of Jake's wife... everybody liked her cooking..and Angela wants to be the only woman

    • @tanyamccomas1110
      @tanyamccomas1110 Před rokem +3

      And would not stand for anyone showing kindness to the babies. So jealous

    • @NLHester
      @NLHester Před rokem +3

      Angela = Jealousy

    • @dejuhvu1793
      @dejuhvu1793 Před rokem +4

      Exactly. She cooked well and the kids likely loved being around her too. She accuses her of food poisoning & touching the kids inappropriately. All lies.

    • @mercedesadler9386
      @mercedesadler9386 Před rokem +1

      @@dejuhvu1793 George's x wife Tabatha was accused of the same thing from Angela

    • @trishkuhne550
      @trishkuhne550 Před rokem

      She will be running the prison. She should have NEVER got a plea deal! In Ohio you don’t have to be there to get Death…..just plan and know about it. They have that evidence!

  • @christinaheagy4602
    @christinaheagy4602 Před 9 měsíci +7

    She's been through a lot. God bless and heal her. Imo, she was a good witness, very thoughtful in her answers. May God protect her and bless her with a bright future.

  • @tandiparent1906
    @tandiparent1906 Před 9 měsíci +4

    😢I wonder how her friend felt after finding out exactly what Jake & his family were capable of.....

  • @bethlouden971
    @bethlouden971 Před rokem +14

    How in the world did this sweet gentle soul end up with this horrible man and his family??!! It's possible Jake would have turned out a completely different person if not under the rule of this horrible woman he called mom. This wasn't a family it was a hierarchy. Poor Sophia was used as a Pawn. She didn't love this child like a grandmother should, she used her.

  • @marciabraga1111
    @marciabraga1111 Před rokem +18

    What a living hell this girl went through, she’s beautiful, well spoken, intelligent, this shows that anyone can find themselves in this situation when there’s lunatics around, God bless her.

  • @kerryhughes3407
    @kerryhughes3407 Před rokem +19

    This girl is so lucky to be free from the Wagner's.
    She seems like a nice quite girl who deserves much better than been controlled by some inbred hillbillies.
    She probably would have not lived through it much longer.
    Amagine how she felt when her policeman friend refused to help and took Jake's side when they threatened to kill her?

  • @AlysonLewis
    @AlysonLewis Před rokem +19

    This testimony has changed the way I see Chris Newcomb. I see now, he's still playing the Wagner game, and attempted to make THIS WOMAN sound crazy, weird, strange. I see your game, buddy. It has not gone unnoticed.

    • @marshapieroni6677
      @marshapieroni6677 Před rokem +7

      Yep. She was probably giving him the stare because she was becoming more and more terrified of what she had gotten herself into

    • @trishkuhne550
      @trishkuhne550 Před rokem

      Yes….she impeached him!

  • @juliadixon8465
    @juliadixon8465 Před 9 měsíci +2

    How weird that they were afraid of the cemetery and the library.
    On second thought, maybe not.

  • @allisonb.8492
    @allisonb.8492 Před rokem +8

    This is a very intelligent woman. I am so glad she got away from this toxic family. You're Granddaddy would be proud, Elizabeth.

  • @histerp51
    @histerp51 Před rokem +11

    Oh my gosh I think Beth Ann got the most responses of anyone in this whole Court Case. I agree she was and is amazing. I wished I could reach out and give her a huge hug, and just let her cry it out on this momma/grama s shoulder. I hurt sooo badly for her, but she will make it because she is called and I believe she knows the LORD will bring her through all of this..

  • @heathernikki5734
    @heathernikki5734 Před 9 měsíci +5

    They named their son Bovine???? Also Angela is NUTS

    • @catsberry4858
      @catsberry4858 Před 9 měsíci +1

      They are absolutely positive nutbars. I believe it’s spelled “Bulvine,” but not much better than BOVINE 😂😂 psychotic ppl

    • @heathernikki5734
      @heathernikki5734 Před 6 měsíci

      @@catsberry4858 right I learned it’s Bulvine and I still feel sorry for that kid 😂 😬 I hope Tabitha changes his name

  • @janepearson5802
    @janepearson5802 Před rokem +6

    Well she sure dodged a bullet getting away when she did . She had a guardian angel for sure .

  • @Pinkflamingo138
    @Pinkflamingo138 Před rokem +9

    This case is terrible. But is the child’s name actually Bovine? Like who would do that to a child?

  • @ginahickman6864
    @ginahickman6864 Před rokem +7

    Elizabeth could write a book about her life and it would definitely be a Best Seller.

  • @joycepayne3505
    @joycepayne3505 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Poor girl her first romance and this is it. Horrible

  • @Erica_S_McClaine_
    @Erica_S_McClaine_ Před rokem +135

    Listen, I admit to being a weird person, black sheep of my family, and not “normal.” But the Wagner family is a whole new level of just... I really don’t even know how what word describes them. The details that have come out during this trial are just 🤯! Their family seems to have a cult like feel. I think it’s absolutely horrible that so many people were murdered. And Hanna didn’t get to raise her children. She was a young mother, but she was a very good mother. Her two little girls were robbed of their mom, grandparents, uncle, and more. I hope that they’re both in a loving, safe home. Thank God the Wagner’s will never have children in their custody again. They are evil scum.
    And Idk how this idiot thinks he’s going to get away with this. Even IF he didn’t actually kill anyone, or touch a gun, doesn’t matter. He was involved from the beginning with the planning, and he went with them that night knowing exactly what was going to happen.

    • @maryfitzpatrick3252
      @maryfitzpatrick3252 Před rokem +27

      Weird/odd is an understatement 😂. Warped, petty clan.

    • @spicyirwin5835
      @spicyirwin5835 Před rokem +26

      Beth taught Jake who Jesus was & how much God loves him. Angela never gave her sons a chance in life. George couldnt kill so there's 1 thing he didnt obey Angela. She was like Manson.

    • @julianyc422
      @julianyc422 Před rokem +9

      Ozark family.

    • @Erica_S_McClaine_
      @Erica_S_McClaine_ Před rokem +29

      @@spicyirwin5835 I can’t imagine how horrific it was for any of those girls to have to live with her, and the rest of them. She was like the Jim Jones of their family. The husband, and sons did whatever she said. And took every word she told them as truth. There’s definitely nothing wrong with loving your grandchildren. But she had more of an obsession than love for her grandchildren in my opinion. She wanted Hanna and Dana murdered so she would be the only woman in Sophia’s life. I think it’s a miracle that Tabitha made it out alive. But she, and Beth will probably suffer trauma for the rest of their lives because of the experience with that psycho family. I might be wrong, but I think Angela has feelings for her sons that aren’t exactly normal either. She’s definitely obsessed with them too. She never wanted them to be happy with their girlfriends, or wives. She always tried to cause problems. And that’s a huge understatement! To go so far as accuse someone of poisoning children, and touching them inappropriately, is whacko!
      Like I said, this family, and the whole case is just mind blowing.

    • @Erica_S_McClaine_
      @Erica_S_McClaine_ Před rokem +6

      @@maryfitzpatrick3252 Very true!

  • @samanthab1923
    @samanthab1923 Před 9 měsíci +4

    How did this confident self possessed woman ever wind up with Jake Wagner? Idgi. Guy had a kid & lived in a trailer with his parents. What did he do for a living again? Jeez

    • @catsberry4858
      @catsberry4858 Před 9 měsíci +3

      I don’t understand it whatsoever either! How on earth did someone like him get someone to marry or have a baby with him?! He is no prize, even before the murders! He statutory graped Hanna. But Elizabeth is so together! I’m thankful she was able to get away and not get pregnant by these mobsters. They are their own cult!

    • @samanthab1923
      @samanthab1923 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@catsberry4858 Right? Insane

  • @brandonpausta2206
    @brandonpausta2206 Před rokem +22

    What is sad all you have to do is tell and get to escape the death penalty after murdering 8 people!!!!

    • @trishkuhne550
      @trishkuhne550 Před rokem +5

      Oh I know! I have emailed Ohio’s attorney general. This case SCREAMS death penalty. So premeditated and ghastly!!!

  • @rubeniamalone3810
    @rubeniamalone3810 Před rokem +11

    I wish all the best to this young and beautiful lady Elizabeth. She possesses courage, integrity self control, honest and has Integrity. Too bad she met these criminals.

  • @taylorellison2719
    @taylorellison2719 Před rokem +5

    This young lady is so brave for fighting for her own life, but for also helping the Rhoden family get Justice. She didn’t own anyone her testimony, but she did it for her. Part of her healing, I’m sure. So fucking brave!

  • @nwill08
    @nwill08 Před rokem +9

    Seems to me that there’s nothing to be giggling about at the defense table. Wow. 🤦🏾‍♀️ I bet they won’t be giggling when the verdict and sentence are given.

  • @windycitygirl
    @windycitygirl Před rokem +10

    Elizabeth is such a strong young woman. Excellent witness. I am glad she got out as quickly as she did. I wish her well.

  • @LisatheGreatest
    @LisatheGreatest Před rokem +19

    Poor girl. How awful to live in a houseful of killers, and she must be scared out of her mind testifying. Good on her

  • @marymary20
    @marymary20 Před rokem +6

    Angela’s sons were never going to be allowed to have happy, healthy marriages.

  • @glossypots
    @glossypots Před rokem +24

    She is obviously a class apart from that family how on earth did she get involved with these people? She must have been extremely naive and trusting?

    • @trishkuhne550
      @trishkuhne550 Před rokem +9

      Yes a class above. That is why they all thought she was weird

  • @deannawiederhold333
    @deannawiederhold333 Před rokem +30

    My Heart breaks for this young lady anyone know how she is doing?

    • @msmith7472
      @msmith7472 Před rokem +14

      If she was smart they put her in witness protection

    • @TaharkahX
      @TaharkahX Před rokem +8

      She moved twice to two different states out of fear of the Wagners. She is unmarried and has a job.

    • @OHiYoCHIC
      @OHiYoCHIC Před rokem +2

      I read she’s on TikTok

  • @jenniferbossert2088
    @jenniferbossert2088 Před rokem +8

    So proud of Elizabeth and Tabitha for having their day to speak the truth and expose this black widow Angela Wagner and her abuse.

  • @Patriot2332
    @Patriot2332 Před 9 měsíci +2

    This young lady went through hell with this horrible family, death threats, false accusations and basically living in fear and imprisoned in the home.
    It took a lot of courage for her to take the stand and testify to what she witnessed while living with them.
    I truly hope she can move on with her life and find true happiness

  • @Lisa-hn3hz
    @Lisa-hn3hz Před rokem +5

    I would of ran away from this evil family right away,,thank God she got out of it before it was to late, I can't imagine being around this

  • @mercedesadler9386
    @mercedesadler9386 Před rokem +27

    Glad she got away from these thirsty Pigs..

  • @looking4things669
    @looking4things669 Před rokem +8

    The family has no regard for boundaries. This a common trait in screwed-up dysfunctional families.

  • @tiffanyclark-grove1989
    @tiffanyclark-grove1989 Před rokem +6

    They named their grandson Bovine? Weird.

  • @Legend0222
    @Legend0222 Před rokem +17

    I hope after this trial this young lady can move on and have a happy life, the fact that she was manipulated into this situation by Jake Wagner makes me so mad for her, blessings and positive vibes heading her way.

  • @Tracylyn42
    @Tracylyn42 Před rokem +15

    Wow this girl has definitely impressed the hell outta me. She is handling this defense attorney