This gent sold me on the dynamic vs. the model d. So glad I got this one, as it’s smooth, and does not forgive bad technique. Don’t want to be one of those indoor rowers with big arms yanking the handle in. Very pleased, even though it’s harder at first to get the rhythm right.
Great explanation. This makes so much sense to improve the rowing stroke. This should be the machine in every boat club. I guess this machine is probably better than using a pair of slides on a regular ergo.
Separating out the specific parts and tools for each of the seven step assembly process steps was brilliant on the part of the manufacturer. For the price, I am impressed at how sturdy this czcams.com/users/postUgkxvObaTzoHoHQLL4lHbJQmExHqsrZQm-f7 unit is and it does go together easily. Well, I was puzzled at first at Step 5 and maybe the instructions should mention that rail #62 needs to be tilted upwards a little to get the rail to fit into the main part #44. I like it that the rower can be stored vertically in a really small amount of space, but be forewarned that this rower is top heavy and for safety you'll need at least two bungee cords to keep the unit upright, attaching them to something; in my case to a third garage door. I have had this unit only a short time, and I will post an update once I've had it for a year. As for working your legs, I have to admit that I'm mainly rowing for upper body strength and I use other forms of exercise for leg strength (like walking fast, biking, or using a trampoline. But if you pull as far forward as possible, then you can give preference to your legs for the first 4 feet or so of travel. I also admit to not taking the two electronic connectors apart at Step 7. I simply inserted the two batteries while the other parts remained connected. By the way, there is plenty of resistance here, even in the lowest resistance settings. Kudos to Sunny Health & Fitness !
I am glad that you posted a video on this! I asked about investing in the C2 Dynamic earlier last week online and I am really convinced it is the right one for me! I think this will be really nice because there is going to be less strain on my back and eventually being able to increase training volume over time, because I don't need to recover as long between workouts because my lower back gets too sore from the high impact on the static.
Excellent video! This is the first one that I saw that explained not only the differences between the C2 D and the C2 Dynamic, but also showed and explained what its advantages are for training towards rowing on the water. One question that I have, is how does this compare with training on a C2 D that is set up on slides? What are the pros and cons between the two? I find that using the slides has made me more aware of my technique and helped me to fine tune my technique, because it seems to be less forgiving of bad form and timing. Thank you Eric for this video. All the best!
I knew from past videos how much you've used the C2 Dynamic (including a video where you set a world record on one a few years back) and appreciate your expert and detailed analysis of it for the rest of us.
Thanks Eric for this video. It convinced me to get a dynamic. While I have had a model D in the past, I felt that if I want to get on the water, improve technique and reduce potential back issues this is the machine. Ok, I can't compete in indoor rowing but if I can get to the club to record a time I am going to have better technique on the D = better competition times anyway.
That is my home setup too! I bought mine a couple of years just before they introduced the Dynamic model, which I have never had an occasion to try, but have often wonder, if I should one day get one, if only because of its more compact footprint. Fortunately, space is not an issue for me and the C2 D and slides are so robust and easy to maintain that unless there would be a mark advantage to switch over, I am no longer considering the idea to do so. Gordon, I would imagine that you feel this way too about your rig?
Eric, do you look for similar force curves on the dynamic as on static? What do you consider an ideal curve that would translate to proper power application on the water?
Hi, Eric. I used to be a competitive rower. Then I became permanently disabled about 10 years ago. Because the dynamic erg is gentler on my back, it has allowed me to return to the sport after all that time. I adore my machine. I would also very much appreciate it if you would do one of your CZcams rows on the dynamic, please. Of course, your time is limited. But if you could lead a single row-along-with-the-video session on the dynamic, I (and I hope others) would be grateful, please. Thank you. Best, Jamie, Westfield, NJ, USA
Yip. Hamish has one back to the Dynamic to manage the load on his back. It allows people to think of the engagment in the core and back and be able to temper the pressure needed while doing the work.
Great video, thanks for your review Eric. One question I have is for beginning rowers (such as myself) who are looking to build technique but also use the rower as a form of exercise more so than to get on the water, will this dynamic rower be better than the stationary one? I really appreciate any input you can provide.
Many thanks for the videos, they are great I am thinking about one of these, I am new to this, having been a keen marathon kayaker in the past, now 53 and trying to keep things going. If its so great, why it is not featured in any of your other videos? I do have issues and am definietely looking for a comfortable machine, if it puts less 'strain' on me, thats good. We have a local gig club, but don't ever expect to row on the water in a sliding seat boat.
Hi Eric, good video. We do everything on dynamics, and I'm currently struggling with lifting my shoulders at the front to get connected, definitely harder technically than a static. I'm curious that you said it's slower though, because I've found the higher rate means I can go faster even with the technical challenges. Do you just mean slower for rate-capped pieces, or were your best results, 2k/5k etc, actually done on a static?
Firstly, great video, and totally agree with the advantages of the dynamic. I row a C2 on sliders and love the boat like feel it provides. I have tried the C2 dynamic a few times and I can't get as "comfortable" as I am on the sliders. My "comfort" may just be my lack of technique. What I find disconcerting on the dynamic is the motion of the seat at the finish. What I notice (and similarly observe in this video) is that the seat changes direction before the end of the finish. It moves slightly towards the stern as the finish is being drawn into the body. When the finish is complete, this stern-ward motion ceases. I don't notice this "double hitch" on the sliders. Any thoughts as to what I am feeling and why this is different on the sliders?
Hi Éric, Many thanks for your explanations and your feeling descriptions. I’ve got a Dynamic 4 Year ago. I much appreciate the flow in riding this machine, but what I’ve found hard to feel and to find, in comparison with a classic ergo, is when aiming to apply more power. With a Classic ergo, it’s easy to feel by the resistance of the wheel through the handle at catch. Would you say this feeling on a Classic is overplaid regarding rowing on a boat and so, useless ? Thanks in advance for your response and one more time :´ chapeau for your unrivalled rowing career ! ´
FWIW, I trained for a season on the dynamic and did CRASH B on the model D in about the time I was hoping for (7:01). I didn't even notice that I wasn't on a dynamic erg for the race. I no longer have access to a dynamic erg, but, if I were going to get a new rowing machine, it would be this one because of the better on-the-water feel and the ability to get up to higher ratings.
Eric, I've always held an opposite view on the relative benefits of the C2 Rower on Sliders vs the C2 Dynamic. With regard to the handle, in the boat when you release the water the forward momentum of the boat creates a relative motion in the handle whereas it moves away from the body. While the mechanics have a different origin (i.e. the bungee) I believe the bungee on the standard rowers simulates this relative motion well. Also, in the boat you are always putting weight on the handle through the recovery to keep the blade from dropping back to the water. On the dynamic, you have to hold the handle up because it would fall if you let it go. Upward pressure on the handle is very unnatural in the boat (only necessary for placement at the front end). The pressure the bungee creates on the front of the grip effectively eliminates this need to hold the handle up. For these reasons I've considered the erg on sliders to be the better simulation of in-boat rowing with respect to rower/handle interaction. Curious about your thoughts on these considerations.
Travis Gardner I get your point around the weight in he handle, but the motion on the recoil of the chain is wayyy too fast on the standard or sliders compared to the boat. There is still some recoil on the dynamic, but it’s linked with the feet a lot better and a lot closer to water rowing. The only reason you feel that in your handle is that the chain is trying to pull itself back into the cog well as fast as it can. That’s why you don’t feel any pressure to keep it up. But the dynamic, just like he oar, you should be able to have the feeling in the fingers and hands of being able to change height of he handle, like you’d have too with balance in the boat. Yes the boat glides underneath you, but you still have to engage the hip flexors and core a lot more to create that momentum where it happens very easy on sliders standard or rp3. The dynamic is about a feel and being in a better position and the connection around the catch is the best as if the timing is not correct like the water, you will loose speed. The standard and Rp3 with the gearing has a better cog and gear change which is why it’s “easy” to start the drive, where dynamic you “have” to have the connect or you loose the speed. That’s one of the big reasons why it’s the “best” technique machine.
Are you kidding me. Who cares about the numbers, this is such a space saver! I just really wonder how it feels before I swap my static to dynamic ... and also - faster on the water? I am all in!
Have you tried any other dynamic rowers? Which do you best recommend so far? I used to row but haven't had a chance to in the last few years- I want to get back into the flow as close as possible.
What do you think about C2 with slides as a compromise for the dynamic erg? Since most rowing clubs (or people) cant afford both machines and the testings will be done on a C2, so most times people will go to buy the C2. But i think putting it on slides is a good compromise to get some focus away from going hard at the front for the best splits.
The slides are also great as it teaches you around the connection and change in direction around the catch. the dynamic is set apart from anything else because there is no elastic resistance with the machine coming back and helping you in that way. the Rp3 and sliders use the machines natural recoil with the bungee and chain to help with the motion, where as the dynamic you have to do a lot more yourself, and there is a little bit of assistance, but its "The Most" similar feeling to being on the water.
Eric, serious question mate. My wife used to row, had throat cancer, now breathes thru a stoma in her neck. Used to use the erg but. Ow she finds that it puts strain on her neck and a tube that allows her to eat/ drink. With the dynamic erg and the different feel technique and feel … might this be a realistic and viable alternative given the way it’s used? Thx in advance
I am a novice in rowing. Last ergometer session in our rowing club only the dynamic machine was available for me. I noticed fast that this machine is harder on the abdominal. You have to work more to bring your body back to the catch. I will continue using the dynamic instead of the standard exactly because it forces me to do a correct stroke.
Do you get as much of a cardio workout and all over body work out on the Dynamic or is it "gentler" ? I row on the water and can row longer on water than on an erg. Is that a similar experience on the Dynamic?
Hi Eric, would you obtain the same benefit with a normal erg plus slides? I just don't see my club or myself investing in more equipment right now with all the uncertainty. thanks!
I can see that it would be better if you row on the water, but if you only want to train for competing at indoor rowing competitions, surely it must be better to train on a model D or E.
Great video...any thoughts on the Oartec DX? Some other erg reviewers have claimed it to be the best on the water feel of the dynamics and complained that the C2 Dynamic forced opening the back too early in an attempt to keep the connection.
Hi Eric, my son is beginning with rowing, which rowing machine would be the best initial investment? Is this Concept2 the best dynamic rower or the row perfect would be even better?
Would you recommend the C2 dynamic, if one only would row indoors? I'm looking for a machine to become fitter not to become a better rower. Anyway looks like it is more fun to row on the dynamic.
The Concept2 Model D (or E) are the standard for indoor rowing, including competitive indoor rowing. However, if you plan on doing serious rowing on water, that is when a dynamic rowers might make more sense. In any case, the machines made by Concept2 are very reliable and are likely to last a very long time; decades.
I used a Model D on slides (which took up quite a bit of floor space in our exercise room/office) until the end of 2016, when I purchased the C2 Dynamic. Far more compact than any other rowing erg. As you can see in Eric’s video, it offers all the benefits of an erg on slides but forces you to further improve and refine your technique if you want to get splits not too far from those achieved on a static erg. Gives a great workout but is extremely back friendly. The Dynamic might sell far fewer units than the Model Ds, but I love it.
Hi sir! Is that so obvious that dynamic models puts less pressure on the back? I have just bought a static one and now I am kind of confused... I know the machine btw, I did rowing for 2 years at college but never tried a dynamic one.
Thanks, John. I'm looking at both and simply do not have the office space for the D. And, I don't row--I'm coming over from distance running due to injuries. I will learn the technique and do this right, but would you recommend this machine for fitness alone? Otherwise, the D fits in my basement which is hardly motivational.
Hi Dawn. I get fantastic cardiovascular and body muscle and core strengthening workouts on my Dynamic without any back issues at all. Nice to have it in the office, where I can control the temperature and turn on the wall-mounted TV for background entertainment on longer pieces if I so desire.
a lot of non boat rowers will buy this thinking they are getting a better workout but in reality the concept 2 d is the better workout machine as in resistance and work output
Of course! Try it at your Concept2 dealer! Just as Eric explained. It is much more resembling the normal water rowing than a static Concept2 . Over 60% of the drive are also here made by the legs
They should make this machine to give you the option. Why have to choose between two machines instead of just buying one that can do both?? The dynamic is a bit difficult for older, fat people who just want to get fit but I'd like to have the option to switch it.
John is right, not the easiest machine to store which is unfortunate. Thats why they are more suited to bigger programs with more space and people. Not to say you cant try to squeeze one in somewhere, but the fact of it is, this is a technical machine and more specialized which is why i wanted to talk about it for people wanting to use something to better their on water rowing.
I can see this helping rowing technique on the water, but I think a static will make my legs stronger. Why? Because not only do my legs push my 200+ pound body along a track, but they also have to contract to draw my 200+ pound forward on the slide. There's no way there's 200 or 250 pounds being moved on a dynamic machine. Same in a boat, you basically slide forward as a consequence of the boat moving back, there's no strong contraction of the hamstrings like on a static rower. He's basically pumping his legs in and out with zero resistance. My 2 cents.
The Rp3 is not as good. Yes it’s a moving a moving machine but still works on a weight basis to drive the flywheel away from you. C2 dynamic you have to create momentum and flow
Absolute superstar and legend. Such a pleasure watching all the incredible races over the years.
This gent sold me on the dynamic vs. the model d. So glad I got this one, as it’s smooth, and does not forgive bad technique. Don’t want to be one of those indoor rowers with big arms yanking the handle in. Very pleased, even though it’s harder at first to get the rhythm right.
Great explanation. This makes so much sense to improve the rowing stroke. This should be the machine in every boat club.
I guess this machine is probably better than using a pair of slides on a regular ergo.
Separating out the specific parts and tools for each of the seven step assembly process steps was brilliant on the part of the manufacturer. For the price, I am impressed at how sturdy this czcams.com/users/postUgkxvObaTzoHoHQLL4lHbJQmExHqsrZQm-f7 unit is and it does go together easily. Well, I was puzzled at first at Step 5 and maybe the instructions should mention that rail #62 needs to be tilted upwards a little to get the rail to fit into the main part #44. I like it that the rower can be stored vertically in a really small amount of space, but be forewarned that this rower is top heavy and for safety you'll need at least two bungee cords to keep the unit upright, attaching them to something; in my case to a third garage door. I have had this unit only a short time, and I will post an update once I've had it for a year. As for working your legs, I have to admit that I'm mainly rowing for upper body strength and I use other forms of exercise for leg strength (like walking fast, biking, or using a trampoline. But if you pull as far forward as possible, then you can give preference to your legs for the first 4 feet or so of travel. I also admit to not taking the two electronic connectors apart at Step 7. I simply inserted the two batteries while the other parts remained connected. By the way, there is plenty of resistance here, even in the lowest resistance settings. Kudos to Sunny Health & Fitness !
I am glad that you posted a video on this! I asked about investing in the C2 Dynamic earlier last week online and I am really convinced it is the right one for me! I think this will be really nice because there is going to be less strain on my back and eventually being able to increase training volume over time, because I don't need to recover as long between workouts because my lower back gets too sore from the high impact on the static.
Hi Isaiah. So, is there any difference in terms of the impact those machines put on your back?
Excellent video! This is the first one that I saw that explained not only the differences between the C2 D and the C2 Dynamic, but also showed and explained what its advantages are for training towards rowing on the water.
One question that I have, is how does this compare with training on a C2 D that is set up on slides? What are the pros and cons between the two? I find that using the slides has made me more aware of my technique and helped me to fine tune my technique, because it seems to be less forgiving of bad form and timing.
Thank you Eric for this video. All the best!
I knew from past videos how much you've used the C2 Dynamic (including a video where you set a world record on one a few years back) and appreciate your expert and detailed analysis of it for the rest of us.
Eric, great video clip and probably the most passionate erg clip Iv seen!
only want to help people get better!
Thanks Eric for this video. It convinced me to get a dynamic. While I have had a model D in the past, I felt that if I want to get on the water, improve technique and reduce potential back issues this is the machine. Ok, I can't compete in indoor rowing but if I can get to the club to record a time I am going to have better technique on the D = better competition times anyway.
Eric, great video. I have been using sliders with my standard concept 2 and as a result my single is going so much better.
That is great to hear. It gives you the appreciation around the catch and also an understanding of the momentum with the stroke.
That is my home setup too!
I bought mine a couple of years just before they introduced the Dynamic model, which I have never had an occasion to try, but have often wonder, if I should one day get one, if only because of its more compact footprint. Fortunately, space is not an issue for me and the C2 D and slides are so robust and easy to maintain that unless there would be a mark advantage to switch over, I am no longer considering the idea to do so. Gordon, I would imagine that you feel this way too about your rig?
Great explanation.
Eric, do you look for similar force curves on the dynamic as on static? What do you consider an ideal curve that would translate to proper power application on the water?
Hi, Eric. I used to be a competitive rower. Then I became permanently disabled about 10 years ago. Because the dynamic erg is gentler on my back, it has allowed me to return to the sport after all that time. I adore my machine. I would also very much appreciate it if you would do one of your CZcams rows on the dynamic, please. Of course, your time is limited. But if you could lead a single row-along-with-the-video session on the dynamic, I (and I hope others) would be grateful, please. Thank you. Best, Jamie, Westfield, NJ, USA
Yip. Hamish has one back to the Dynamic to manage the load on his back. It allows people to think of the engagment in the core and back and be able to temper the pressure needed while doing the work.
I've been using the Dynamic since 2013-14. It's been great tool for leg drive connection.
Great video, thanks for your review Eric. One question I have is for beginning rowers (such as myself) who are looking to build technique but also use the rower as a form of exercise more so than to get on the water, will this dynamic rower be better than the stationary one? I really appreciate any input you can provide.
Many thanks for the videos, they are great I am thinking about one of these, I am new to this, having been a keen marathon kayaker in the past, now 53 and trying to keep things going. If its so great, why it is not featured in any of your other videos? I do have issues and am definietely looking for a comfortable machine, if it puts less 'strain' on me, thats good. We have a local gig club, but don't ever expect to row on the water in a sliding seat boat.
Hi Eric, good video. We do everything on dynamics, and I'm currently struggling with lifting my shoulders at the front to get connected, definitely harder technically than a static. I'm curious that you said it's slower though, because I've found the higher rate means I can go faster even with the technical challenges. Do you just mean slower for rate-capped pieces, or were your best results, 2k/5k etc, actually done on a static?
Firstly, great video, and totally agree with the advantages of the dynamic. I row a C2 on sliders and love the boat like feel it provides. I have tried the C2 dynamic a few times and I can't get as "comfortable" as I am on the sliders. My "comfort" may just be my lack of technique. What I find disconcerting on the dynamic is the motion of the seat at the finish. What I notice (and similarly observe in this video) is that the seat changes direction before the end of the finish. It moves slightly towards the stern as the finish is being drawn into the body. When the finish is complete, this stern-ward motion ceases. I don't notice this "double hitch" on the sliders. Any thoughts as to what I am feeling and why this is different on the sliders?
And this is a problem why?
Hi Éric, Many thanks for your explanations and your feeling descriptions. I’ve got a Dynamic 4 Year ago. I much appreciate the flow in riding this machine, but what I’ve found hard to feel and to find, in comparison with a classic ergo, is when aiming to apply more power. With a Classic ergo, it’s easy to feel by the resistance of the wheel through the handle at catch. Would you say this feeling on a Classic is overplaid regarding rowing on a boat and so, useless ? Thanks in advance for your response and one more time :´ chapeau for your unrivalled rowing career ! ´
FWIW, I trained for a season on the dynamic and did CRASH B on the model D in about the time I was hoping for (7:01). I didn't even notice that I wasn't on a dynamic erg for the race. I no longer have access to a dynamic erg, but, if I were going to get a new rowing machine, it would be this one because of the better on-the-water feel and the ability to get up to higher ratings.
Eric, I've always held an opposite view on the relative benefits of the C2 Rower on Sliders vs the C2 Dynamic. With regard to the handle, in the boat when you release the water the forward momentum of the boat creates a relative motion in the handle whereas it moves away from the body. While the mechanics have a different origin (i.e. the bungee) I believe the bungee on the standard rowers simulates this relative motion well. Also, in the boat you are always putting weight on the handle through the recovery to keep the blade from dropping back to the water. On the dynamic, you have to hold the handle up because it would fall if you let it go. Upward pressure on the handle is very unnatural in the boat (only necessary for placement at the front end). The pressure the bungee creates on the front of the grip effectively eliminates this need to hold the handle up. For these reasons I've considered the erg on sliders to be the better simulation of in-boat rowing with respect to rower/handle interaction. Curious about your thoughts on these considerations.
Travis Gardner I get your point around the weight in he handle, but the motion on the recoil of the chain is wayyy too fast on the standard or sliders compared to the boat. There is still some recoil on the dynamic, but it’s linked with the feet a lot better and a lot closer to water rowing. The only reason you feel that in your handle is that the chain is trying to pull itself back into the cog well as fast as it can. That’s why you don’t feel any pressure to keep it up. But the dynamic, just like he oar, you should be able to have the feeling in the fingers and hands of being able to change height of he handle, like you’d have too with balance in the boat. Yes the boat glides underneath you, but you still have to engage the hip flexors and core a lot more to create that momentum where it happens very easy on sliders standard or rp3. The dynamic is about a feel and being in a better position and the connection around the catch is the best as if the timing is not correct like the water, you will loose speed. The standard and Rp3 with the gearing has a better cog and gear change which is why it’s “easy” to start the drive, where dynamic you “have” to have the connect or you loose the speed. That’s one of the big reasons why it’s the “best” technique machine.
Are you kidding me. Who cares about the numbers, this is such a space saver! I just really wonder how it feels before I swap my static to dynamic ... and also - faster on the water? I am all in!
Have you tried any other dynamic rowers? Which do you best recommend so far? I used to row but haven't had a chance to in the last few years- I want to get back into the flow as close as possible.
Hey Eric. Are you recommending use both static and dynamic?
What do you think about C2 with slides as a compromise for the dynamic erg?
Since most rowing clubs (or people) cant afford both machines and the testings will be done on a C2, so most times people will go to buy the C2. But i think putting it on slides is a good compromise to get some focus away from going hard at the front for the best splits.
The slides are also great as it teaches you around the connection and change in direction around the catch. the dynamic is set apart from anything else because there is no elastic resistance with the machine coming back and helping you in that way. the Rp3 and sliders use the machines natural recoil with the bungee and chain to help with the motion, where as the dynamic you have to do a lot more yourself, and there is a little bit of assistance, but its "The Most" similar feeling to being on the water.
Eric, serious question mate. My wife used to row, had throat cancer, now breathes thru a stoma in her neck. Used to use the erg but. Ow she finds that it puts strain on her neck and a tube that allows her to eat/ drink. With the dynamic erg and the different feel technique and feel … might this be a realistic and viable alternative given the way it’s used? Thx in advance
I am a novice in rowing. Last ergometer session in our rowing club only the dynamic machine was available for me. I noticed fast that this machine is harder on the abdominal. You have to work more to bring your body back to the catch. I will continue using the dynamic instead of the standard exactly because it forces me to do a correct stroke.
Do you think this machine can help with others concept2 rowers, as well, at the end?
Maybe this was already answered, but does the dynamic help improve numbers on the static? Is it a better overall workout than the static?
Do you get as much of a cardio workout and all over body work out on the Dynamic or is it "gentler" ? I row on the water and can row longer on water than on an erg. Is that a similar experience on the Dynamic?
Hi Eric, would you obtain the same benefit with a normal erg plus slides? I just don't see my club or myself investing in more equipment right now with all the uncertainty. thanks!
I can see that it would be better if you row on the water, but if you only want to train for competing at indoor rowing competitions, surely it must be better to train on a model D or E.
Great video...any thoughts on the Oartec DX? Some other erg reviewers have claimed it to be the best on the water feel of the dynamics and complained that the C2 Dynamic forced opening the back too early in an attempt to keep the connection.
Would you recommend this rower for an absolutely raw beginner?
Hi Eric, my son is beginning with rowing, which rowing machine would be the best initial investment? Is this Concept2 the best dynamic rower or the row perfect would be even better?
So if I'm only just interested in burning calories and not actually rowing on water....should I go with the model D?
Would you recommend the C2 dynamic, if one only would row indoors? I'm looking for a machine to become fitter not to become a better rower. Anyway looks like it is more fun to row on the dynamic.
standard for fitness. Dynamic if you are on water and wanting to be the best on water.
Is there any extra benefit from using the c2 dynamic over just putting a stationary erg on slides?
could you do a side by side comparison with the waterrower slider? it seems less gym friendly but slightly more true to the rowing motion
Reddit /rowing has nothing but bad reviews about Water Rower. RP3 has rave reviews but it costs like $3200.
Thanks for the video. I’m looking into buying a rower just for exercise. Would this be better than the Concept 2 Model D? Thanks again.
The Concept2 Model D (or E) are the standard for indoor rowing, including competitive indoor rowing. However, if you plan on doing serious rowing on water, that is when a dynamic rowers might make more sense. In any case, the machines made by Concept2 are very reliable and are likely to last a very long time; decades.
Mark Hooker Thanks for the response. I just ordered the model E two days ago. Can’t wait to try it out.
what do you think about the slides being used with the concept2
I used a Model D on slides (which took up quite a bit of floor space in our exercise room/office) until the end of 2016, when I purchased the C2 Dynamic. Far more compact than any other rowing erg. As you can see in Eric’s video, it offers all the benefits of an erg on slides but forces you to further improve and refine your technique if you want to get splits not too far from those achieved on a static erg. Gives a great workout but is extremely back friendly. The Dynamic might sell far fewer units than the Model Ds, but I love it.
John Blackburn great to hear John. We did find that our natural rating on this machine was 22, whereas the static is 18-20
Hi sir! Is that so obvious that dynamic models puts less pressure on the back?
I have just bought a static one and now I am kind of confused... I know the machine btw, I did rowing for 2 years at college but never tried a dynamic one.
Thanks, John. I'm looking at both and simply do not have the office space for the D. And, I don't row--I'm coming over from distance running due to injuries. I will learn the technique and do this right, but would you recommend this machine for fitness alone? Otherwise, the D fits in my basement which is hardly motivational.
Hi Dawn. I get fantastic cardiovascular and body muscle and core strengthening workouts on my Dynamic without any back issues at all. Nice to have it in the office, where I can control the temperature and turn on the wall-mounted TV for background entertainment on longer pieces if I so desire.
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Also space. I can break down my Model D.
This is true. If space is an issue, then a Model D is for you. If not, I prefer the Dynamic.
a lot of non boat rowers will buy this thinking they are getting a better workout but in reality the concept 2 d is the better workout machine as in resistance and work output
How is this machine in terms of effectiveness? I'd want whichever machine gets best fitness results.
I'd go for the simple answer - which ever machine you use the most!
@Eric is this good for a person starting out to row?
a starter should get the regular C2 rower. This is aimed at more advanced rowers who want the ultimate in 'on the water' feel.
Is there resistance on the legs?
Of course! Try it at your Concept2 dealer! Just as Eric explained. It is much more resembling the normal water rowing than a static Concept2 . Over 60% of the drive are also here made by the legs
How do you rate it against the RP3 machines?
I personally would say the rp3 is better
They should make this machine to give you the option.
Why have to choose between two machines instead of just buying one that can do both??
The dynamic is a bit difficult for older, fat people who just want to get fit but I'd like to have the option to switch it.
This guy is totally not sponsored by C2
Eric, how can you store these? split in two or stand on its end etc? Cheers
You can't separate the Dynamic into separate parts like you can a C2 Model C or D. It is possible to store one vertically.
John is right, not the easiest machine to store which is unfortunate. Thats why they are more suited to bigger programs with more space and people. Not to say you cant try to squeeze one in somewhere, but the fact of it is, this is a technical machine and more specialized which is why i wanted to talk about it for people wanting to use something to better their on water rowing.
Mine lives upright in my garage. I lower the front end between my cars to workout then lift it back up once I’m done.
I can see this helping rowing technique on the water, but I think a static will make my legs stronger. Why? Because not only do my legs push my 200+ pound body along a track, but they also have to contract to draw my 200+ pound forward on the slide. There's no way there's 200 or 250 pounds being moved on a dynamic machine. Same in a boat, you basically slide forward as a consequence of the boat moving back, there's no strong contraction of the hamstrings like on a static rower. He's basically pumping his legs in and out with zero resistance. My 2 cents.
I feel as if the rp3 accomplishes the same thing
The Rp3 is not as good. Yes it’s a moving a moving machine but still works on a weight basis to drive the flywheel away from you. C2 dynamic you have to create momentum and flow
@ 1:48 "It doesn't fly back to the start" as it flies back to the start :)
tichnicly bittah on the wotah
No sense