What Makes Catchy Melodies, CATCHY? 🤨

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  • čas přidán 5. 02. 2023
  • Catchy melodies, that is all we want to. Sometimes though, catchy melodies doesn't mean good melodies. But let's take a look at how to make them.
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Komentáře • 141

  • @Alice-Efe
    @Alice-Efe  Před 11 měsíci +3

    While these hooks you; there are other things that can make your track sound ameteur. Let me explain in this video:
    czcams.com/video/YqaLRk2PyAg/video.html

  • @justin1129
    @justin1129 Před rokem +39

    I can tell you're obsessed with music. Can feel the passion through the screen. Inspiring

    • @sandwich-breath
      @sandwich-breath Před rokem

      I remember some really inspiring content a couple of years ago, now it’s a bit infantile.

    • @iseeu-fp9po
      @iseeu-fp9po Před rokem

      @@sandwich-breath Care to elaborate?

  • @wiegraf9009
    @wiegraf9009 Před rokem +7

    6:48 This melody is so reminiscent of arcade music from the early 80s. Nice how much you can do with so little polyphony

  • @welock
    @welock Před rokem +14

    Great video! At 3:07, be careful though..you came dangerously close to Darude - Sandstorm 😂

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  Před rokem +4

      The dangerous moment that your melody starts to converges into Darude - Sandstorm. A real phenomena 😅

  • @UTOBY
    @UTOBY Před rokem +62

    Those things I tend to do sometimes:
    1. Let the track play and do some other stuff, like cleaning your studio. Sometimes I begin to humm the 'missing' notes.
    2. Use Riffer for melodies in a specific key and scale
    3. Use the vst from Magenta (uses a neuronal net [tensorflow] to create or iterate over existing midi notes) and cherry pick the melodies
    4. When having an Idea, I record it any where I am
    5. Use a different instrument to play the melody. (Guitar, Bass, Different Synth, well even different vst-preset)

    • @AKAtAGG
      @AKAtAGG Před rokem +3

      yeah I do your 1. all the time. If I am happy with it I will go back to my guitar or keyboard and add extra notes to give it more life.

    • @Flamieee1
      @Flamieee1 Před rokem

      Thanks for the insights!

    • @dragonfruitreal
      @dragonfruitreal Před rokem

      wait that first tip is really interesting

  • @petemusgrove7422
    @petemusgrove7422 Před rokem +7

    One thing that's always fascinated me is how often the song I like least on an album ends up becoming my favourite and I think it's important not to throw out "bad ideas" without giving them a decent chance.

    • @je4a301
      @je4a301 Před 5 měsíci

      I think is related to accessibility. Some songs are not quite accessible but still pretty catchy so they first sound pretty weird but get stuck in your head until you love it. Had this with Radiohead and King Crimson e.g.

  • @peterelfman
    @peterelfman Před rokem +4

    Excellent video! I've heard the bit about a good melody being easy to hum before. The part about being able to whistle is both genius and true. Well done!

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 Před rokem +1

      Back in the distant past, pop stars would aspire to writing melodies that the milkman would whistle. When there were fewer cars on the road, you'd literally hear the milkman whistling songs (like Burt Bacharach's "Magic Moments" or The Beatles' "Eleanor Rugby") as he drove his electric milkfloat up the street at 7:30 in the morning.
      Later on, when milkmen more or less ceased to exist, my dream was to write a riff/bassline that could be chanted by football fans. Good examples that actually happened are "No Limits" (2 Unlimited), "Seven Nation Army" (White Stripes), and "Kernkraft 400" (Zombie Nation). All the above are easy to play on a keyboard, and even easier to hum or whistle.

  • @GarethThomasTunes
    @GarethThomasTunes Před rokem +3

    Nice analysis thanks Alice - I love your enthusiasm!
    I was sort of hoping you’d say something about harmony - as in playing with tension and release against the harmonic structure. I find that’s where the really juicy stuff lies!
    Though your videos are lovely glimpses into a much bigger world. Thank you.

  • @Nedirbuciddiyet
    @Nedirbuciddiyet Před rokem +1

    You are great Alice!! Thank you so much for the video!

  • @baroufess
    @baroufess Před rokem +3

    Alice your teaching capability is outstanding!!!

  • @dwolf9507
    @dwolf9507 Před rokem

    Thanks. Insightful and quite an original way you have managed to articulate this.

  • @alexiastential_crisis

    Just discovered your channel and I LOVE IT!!

  • @Alice-Efe
    @Alice-Efe  Před rokem +19

    What other tactics do you use to make good and cathy melodies? 😊

    • @Sacredriver1008
      @Sacredriver1008 Před rokem

      A piano keyboard or acoustic

    • @AKAtAGG
      @AKAtAGG Před rokem +7

      I write a melody, and leave it to one side. go away and do other things. if after a fair amount of time I am still humming that melody, I know it works. Otherwise, it gets pushed to one side and I come up with something else until it sticks.

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  Před rokem +5

      @@AKAtAGG Haha the good old, forget about it; if it comes back to you method 😊

    • @Sanchez1776
      @Sanchez1776 Před rokem +1

      When I'm stuck and having difficulty finding a solid melodic guitar or bass line, I will move over to the keyboard and select a mode (often times randomly by rolling a 10 sided die to select a mode/scale) and then use little Post-it note stickers to mark off each individual note/key from that mode on the keyboard, in or around the key center of the tune I'm working on. Then I just start tapping stuff out (finger drums style) using only those keys I marked. If I'm not feelin it, roll again and switch modes. It sort of pulls me outside of my comfort zone and pushes my tunes into new sounds and styles that I wouldn't otherwise come up with by just noodling it out on the guitar.
      Sharing my technique with other musicians results in many disappointed eye-rolls, especially from the keys playin' folks; but it has consistently worked for me time and time again. It's also SO much fun for me that many times I will start a new song from scratch by rolling two dice (d10 for the scale/mode & d12 for the key) and tap out a couple melodies and then build a whole song around the result.

    • @deckling823
      @deckling823 Před rokem +1

      I drive my scooter everyday and i always hum on the way. Later i stop and record the humming and later back in the studio i try it on a synth lol.

  • @lukekharma8675
    @lukekharma8675 Před rokem +1

    I just bought your core pack and percussion pack and it will be my new go to packs. I was using vengeance but it was very time consuming trying to find something suitable. Your loop pack is well designed and immediately usable.

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  Před rokem

      Really great to hear that! Hope they bring you tons of inspiration

  • @steven4217
    @steven4217 Před rokem

    you are so knowledgeable about everything you choose to discuss. I am truly inspired. Thanks for the upload

  • @houseeka
    @houseeka Před rokem +7

    3:07 It's not boring, it's SANDSTORM

  • @elvisojeda5600
    @elvisojeda5600 Před rokem

    Thank you Alice, can't wait for part 2.

  • @mageprometheus
    @mageprometheus Před rokem +1

    Thanks for putting Levels back in my ear. I got rid of that last week with Forever Young. Drat, before I found a good tune to listen to I have Where Them Girls At by David Guetta. Now I have to go shopping thinking about you popping bubbles. Love and light.

  • @peterp9351
    @peterp9351 Před rokem +13

    I like the slightly different direction your content is taking now. More of this! A pleasure to watch :)

  • @venusmoctezuma
    @venusmoctezuma Před rokem +1

    Alice! Thanks for everything you share. When are we going to listen to those Pandora's melodies? Great name!

  • @ExtraMnX
    @ExtraMnX Před rokem +3

    Thank you Alice, can't wait for another video from you.
    May I ask if you'll be making a Melodic Techno production course? Similar to the peak-time one? Low end is cool and such but I feel like melodies and leads are the second most important thing (which I have troubles with lol).

    • @fireacross3249
      @fireacross3249 Před rokem

      Uuugh that would be awesome🤗

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  Před rokem +1

      There will a course like that in upcoming months 😊

  • @benni.rosinante
    @benni.rosinante Před rokem

    Somehow I had skipped this video and just watched it.
    It's awesome 🥳
    It's fun 🤣
    And it's really helpful 🚀
    Thanks so much 🤗

  • @wiegraf9009
    @wiegraf9009 Před rokem +2

    5:59 The coordinated movement up and down here is super interesting because it's something you are really not supposed to do according to the rules of counterpoint. I guess the thing is that counterpoint is not at all trying to be catchy and it is more about the vibe of being extremely balanced while in motion than any of the phrases?

    • @Asa-bh7zi
      @Asa-bh7zi Před rokem +2

      That makes sense, counterpoint is designed to ensure that as the piece moves through its harmonic development the perceived strength of the sound is never compromised by unbalanced tonal relationships. But a phrase that might unbalance the overall body of a choral or orchestral piece could still for another reason be pleasing to the ear

  • @Kieezo
    @Kieezo Před rokem

    You are such an inspiration for me!

  • @AURALKINESIS
    @AURALKINESIS Před rokem

    You keep me inspired my friend 🙏🏻

  • @djagustinolmedo
    @djagustinolmedo Před rokem

    i love all of your videos and soon i'll buy every pack that you have jahha HUGS!!!

  • @meathead919
    @meathead919 Před rokem

    Hi Alice, I saw you had a segment up on Sonic Academy, would love to see a few courses there from you! Thank you.

  • @C.D.J.Burton
    @C.D.J.Burton Před rokem

    Great stuff. Had to subscribe! Love how you don't f*ck about and get straight to the sh*t.

  • @viktorramirez9171
    @viktorramirez9171 Před rokem

    You instantly catched me with this Video. Have subscribed to your channel.

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  Před rokem

      Welcome to our community 😊🙋‍♀️

  • @chinmeysway
    @chinmeysway Před rokem +1

    Like the distinction between good / catchy. I like the overlap and analysis but I like also to think that caring to achieve catchiness is overrated and formulaic and limiting. Catchy combined w surprise I suppose is a decent compromise.

  • @elvisojeda5600
    @elvisojeda5600 Před 6 měsíci

    I'd still love to see part 2 of this some day soon :)

  • @Tranceformer
    @Tranceformer Před rokem

    Thank you really enjoyed the video

  • @williecologne8833
    @williecologne8833 Před rokem

    When do we get the continuation to this? I’ve been hoping each release will be the next one. You really know how leave off on a cliffhanger. 😅

  • @user-dj8tc4cv8g
    @user-dj8tc4cv8g Před rokem

    Huge thanks!!

  • @metamentality9818
    @metamentality9818 Před 3 dny

    Thank you!

  • @estebanramon8645
    @estebanramon8645 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @agustinjavier7169
    @agustinjavier7169 Před rokem

    Love yours videos Alice ♥

  • @fpsVAMPZ
    @fpsVAMPZ Před rokem

    Alice! Love your vids. Had a quick question. When you mentioned moving things off the grid so they don't sound too robotic, you still leave the kick and snare on the grid, right? More so move the hats and percs off? Thank you.

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  Před rokem +1

      Cheers! I only have the kick on the grid. Everything else probably slightly of grid 😊

    • @fpsVAMPZ
      @fpsVAMPZ Před rokem

      @@Alice-Efe Thank you, angelface 🖤

  • @Andres33AU
    @Andres33AU Před 10 měsíci

    Speaking of catchy melodies, the Jaws theme (that's in this video) is just two notes, and yet it's so memorable, it's insane!

  • @macronencer
    @macronencer Před rokem

    6:43 That's the Blues change :)

  • @Gnurklesquimp2
    @Gnurklesquimp2 Před rokem +1

    I do think that octaves can be the catchiest of all though, even the ones that aren't very singable can be very simple to listen to.
    As long as you don't jump like crazy it should at least be good for people who can reach that high, stuff like just repeating a phrase an octave up is an incredibly easy way to support making it catchy. To make the singability issue moot, I guess octaves would work very well in a suplementary layer where things like harmony notes and/or rhythmic additions would go

  • @thlLd
    @thlLd Před rokem

    Great video, thank you.

  • @dj_johanna_joy
    @dj_johanna_joy Před rokem

    I love your videos! 🥰

  • @IshwarJangid7
    @IshwarJangid7 Před 8 měsíci

    Best thumbnail I’ve ever seen 💛

  • @jaquu
    @jaquu Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @erikbosgra1775
    @erikbosgra1775 Před rokem

    I like your knowledge and humor 😃👍

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 Před rokem

    My technique as someone with little knowledge or experience is to lean very heavily on whatever "crutch" or "cheat" I can find to get into having fun making sounds. Lots of generative patching, dialing in a scale on the quantizer, Turing machines and Euclidean rhythm generators. Patch it up, see what it sounds like. Ok, change something. Keep going until I have something I like the sound of. Then see what I can do to spice it up, or vary it in some way. Three quarters of the fun I have is in the patching and sound design process.

    • @CatFish107
      @CatFish107 Před rokem

      Tldr how I get a melody I like is by trial and error.

  • @6moon18
    @6moon18 Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks

  • @naturesdopeflow
    @naturesdopeflow Před rokem

    DJ Edge - Cmpnded one of the greatest melodies ever

  • @NICUofficial
    @NICUofficial Před rokem

    Probably my favorite two tests for "good" melodies and hooks in my own songwriting:
    - Is it fun to practice & rehearse?
    - Is it still stuck in my head the day AFTER I come up with it?
    Maybe other people still won't like it, but at that point I've usually got something I want to keep in my song :)

  • @alp740
    @alp740 Před rokem

    one of the best youtube channels, thats it...

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 Před rokem

    Yay, Birdlady whistleable is now in the lexicon.

  • @MatichekYoutube
    @MatichekYoutube Před rokem

    great video

  • @keveydaking
    @keveydaking Před rokem

    Award for most whistleable song is PPK Resurrection

  • @metamentality9818
    @metamentality9818 Před 3 dny

    BANGER

  • @pineoandloeb
    @pineoandloeb Před rokem

    We've DJed in Whistler!

  • @carltonlambert7608
    @carltonlambert7608 Před rokem +1

    The space where nothing happens as well as where something happens.

  • @RogueFire29
    @RogueFire29 Před rokem +2

    We need the next one 🤩🙌

  • @burning_KFC
    @burning_KFC Před rokem

    As always writing a comment to support the channel

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  Před rokem +1

      I really appreciate you! ❤

  • @valiantlydefault
    @valiantlydefault Před rokem

    great vid but i would loove to have chapters so if i want to revisit a specific part again i can quickly find it 😢:)

  • @TyeRodd
    @TyeRodd Před rokem

    good videos !

  • @BellXllebMusic
    @BellXllebMusic Před rokem

    That "off melody" was not weird but much better than a boring overused one from the get go

  • @enzofaleiro6856
    @enzofaleiro6856 Před 11 měsíci

    Best music eletronic creator ever

  • @justwannalivefree7034

    "Melodies that remind me I suck" lmao 🤣 I can relate

  • @producing8996
    @producing8996 Před rokem +1

    it would really be nice if you mention how many times repetition is good for the ear or in genreal take some songs and see how many times the repitite a catchy melody in a 4 bar loop or 8 bar

    • @wiegraf9009
      @wiegraf9009 Před rokem +1

      Well there are two songs in there with a truly ridiculous number of repetitions that were huge hits, so I don't think there's a hard limit

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 Před rokem

      There are loads of good tracks that have a bassline that lasts one bar and that plays constantly for the whole track. One of my favourites would be "Can You Feel It" by Mr Fingers. It uses 3 notes in a 6-note melody and in the extended version it gets played about 150 times. The other elements in the track change every 4 bars, which keeps it interesting.
      Loads of old funk tunes did this, along with most of the early house and techno classics. Dance music is often quite repetitive/hypnotic, innit?

  • @MrRichard1280
    @MrRichard1280 Před rokem

    The Andy Griffith theme song is a great example of a catchy whistling tune.

  • @illyfish1951
    @illyfish1951 Před rokem

    great video but I'm way too high to understand wtf those reubberbands at the end were supposed to represent. keep up the great content as always biskuwi!

  • @hoagy_ytfc
    @hoagy_ytfc Před rokem

    Whistleable is a perfectly cromulent word :)

  • @cloudweight
    @cloudweight Před rokem

    you are awesome

  • @work4synths
    @work4synths Před rokem

    I'm not a fan of catchy melodies TBH! I prefer good and interesting melodies rather than just repetitive and too rhythmic melodies. I actually like to span my melodies across at least two octaves, and put some notes with a difference of more than 7 semitones close to each other. This helps to create sudden but harmonic changes which I think can make the melody more interesting. I also like the "chord" trick that you showed where you play chords but slightly changing notes within them. And I really hate the Daft Punk's track "Around the World" because it's too repetitive... However that chord progression and melody from Solomun's track is awesome! But your videos are great! Keep up the good work!

  • @wiegraf9009
    @wiegraf9009 Před rokem

    4:18 Nah this already sounds great lol

  • @S7T3422
    @S7T3422 Před rokem

    Alice I'm in littel trouble I forget Alot, there is something between my eyes and 3eye chakra this pain is like wooow

  • @Sadsoft
    @Sadsoft Před rokem

    Ha cute earworm

  • @Maracuda
    @Maracuda Před rokem

    Frist :D nice video as always !

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  Před rokem

      Thank you Maracuda, I appreciate it! ❤

  • @AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69
    @AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 Před rokem +44

    On a scientific level I believe "catchy" comes from how you utilize the Perfect 5th. You should be able to sing your melody too. Why the perfect 5th? It's the second most stable next to the root being the most stable of the scale. The 5th note of the scale but the 7th semi tone.

    • @KSHMRmusic
      @KSHMRmusic Před rokem +21

      Lol

    • @jhh764
      @jhh764 Před rokem +7

      @@KSHMRmusic Bro what're you doing here lol

    • @JakkeJakobsen
      @JakkeJakobsen Před rokem +8

      You went from "scientific level" to "I believe" in like 0.2 seconds. Those don't mix.

    • @_CRiT_hits_
      @_CRiT_hits_ Před rokem +1

      No one tell him what a dominant/subdominant is

    • @preservedjams4109
      @preservedjams4109 Před rokem +1

      @@JakkeJakobsen i mean... they’ve postulated a testable hypothesis...

  • @US-vy8up
    @US-vy8up Před rokem +1

    Kızım bi geçmiş olsun ekleseydin video nun başına...

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  Před rokem +5

      Our hearts are with the people who suffered by the cruel earthquake in Turkey 😥 These videos are recorded and scheduled in advance unfortunately hence no comment about it.

  • @szilardnagy3136
    @szilardnagy3136 Před rokem

    The catchy Makes Catchy Melodies, CATCHY!...

  • @petermiller9904
    @petermiller9904 Před rokem

    Dude you are awesome 😂

  • @paradigmshifter3747
    @paradigmshifter3747 Před rokem

    You are very funny

  • @keveydaking
    @keveydaking Před rokem

    3:08 Darude Sandstorm

  • @ItsVoXoN
    @ItsVoXoN Před rokem

    how the hell did Skrillex make his og monster basses CATCHY

  • @imonlydancingsal1509
    @imonlydancingsal1509 Před rokem

    Alice, love your channel. But for someone who is so good with sound, when you speak, it's not easy to decipher or understand the way you speak. If you could make this as clear as your mixes, I would watch twice as much of your content ! Great stuff !

  • @neoland1527
    @neoland1527 Před rokem

    Solomun is king

  • @bloodsundanbloodsundan8607

    Hi why you delete pole group video?😢😢😢 i need them! 😢😢😢😢 please

  • @tyrinnis9832
    @tyrinnis9832 Před 9 měsíci

    what is this creature?

  • @szeredaiakos
    @szeredaiakos Před rokem

    You are required to say repetition legitimizes at least 3 times.
    You are required to say repetition legitimizes at least 3 times.
    You are required to say repetition legitimizes at least 3 times.

  • @chrismm7659
    @chrismm7659 Před rokem

    Long notes also make a song really catchy. Making notes either 3 long or 6 in length is instantly a big difference. If all the notes are the same length then it sounds more boring, and if you whistle it the tempo of the whistle will sound the same. The long note will make it catchy

  • @happniin5287
    @happniin5287 Před 5 měsíci

    We all know Darude - Sandstorm was in the box..

  • @thehighostgaming
    @thehighostgaming Před rokem

    not the swedish anthem xD!

  • @spacedude8890
    @spacedude8890 Před rokem

    Great video but the grossest intro I've seen 😅

  • @HeapsMad
    @HeapsMad Před rokem

    What makes clickbait titles, CLICKBAITY?