I Turned The Mojave Grom Into The ULTIMATE 4s Brushless Monster!
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Let's take an arrm Granite Grom and Mojave Grom and make a real monster! Will this be the best small basher upgrade ever? Is this better than Wltoys and MJX hyper go? Join me to find out!
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You’re a gangster my dude . Don’t stop
As long as you guys keep enjoying I'll keep making!
Your channel is easily the best and most informative of all rc channels. 💯 endorsement
derby rc takes the edit crown @@325RC
Thanks!
He definitely has a fun editing style!
I love these upgrades wrenching vids. I totally love the new look, it looks way meaner for its size.
It definitely is a beast!
What an awesome video. Don’t think I’ll go 4s but maybe 3s brushless setup down the road. I don’t know how you do it. Even without having to edit and think about camera angles and narration this project would take me two solid weeks 😂. Love how you put in the tiny bits of useful info during the build. Thanks for doing what you do! 👊👍
It's just practice. I've done over 300 videos now and that much repetition just inherently builds some skill.
That has to be the best looking groom I have ever seen love it bro keep up the great work
Yeah I think it came out pretty well!
Very well my friend
Been using SMC & power hobby batteries for years & have had no issues with dead cells or anything! I know they are slightly higher in pricing however very dependable 😉👍🏽💯 Great content brother 👍🏽💯
Yeah they make really good stuff.
That was so sick I’m glad I stumbled on your channel that thing rips and that body chop was clean I thought it looked good 🤷♂️ nice work🤘
Yeah definitely came out better than I expected!
Hahaha! The poor thing looks like it's screaming in the last slow-mo jump!
Fun project!
In editing I realize it sounds like R2D2
@@DoRC Hahaha! Totally! 😅
Thanks for watching!
Very cool little project. Looks like somebody needs to model a long wide wheelie bar. I bet you could get that top speed over 60 on that set up.
Yeah I think 65 with proper tires and a proper driver would be no problem whatsoever. I was barely on the throttle to get 53.
I appreciate that you put in a 4s system! For me personally I would keep it lightly modified just for purposes of keeping it more controllable. Mine should be here tomorrow and I look forward to ripping it. Great video!
Yeah this thing is pretty out of hand with the Castle system on 4S.
Nice job on cutting the body. Always a stressful job! Great work on the rest of the build as well.
Yeah I was a little worried about how it would turn out but it's pretty good.
@@DoRC I think it looks good!
Honestly this is actually decently clean. I might have to go this route myself
Overall it came out really good. There's a couple things I would do differently and the rear tires do rub a little bit but I'm pretty happy with it. The electronics install is beautiful!
Love your channel dude. Easily the most informative and easy to watch RC channel. Great work man, keep it up.
Thanks glad you enjoy!
Great video, really informative. Ordering one of these thanks to your upgrade videos!!!
Nice! I think you'll like it.
Super fun video! What a beast after the mods. The SMC batteries are really popular at my local flying field. I’ve been slowly replacing older batteries for the SMC’s. I appreciate the fact you can pick which connector you want.
In my experience they are the best for the money. There is a guy who does some pretty serious testing on batteries and his results spreadsheet is pretty much all SMC at the top.
My goodness that is insane! Awesome build man keep it coming 🤘🏻
Glad you liked! Plenty more to come :-)
i guess i was behind time. the up grade was awesome. i glad to see you do this upgrades. you did it for me.. lol. great video and detailed as usual. nice work. ill be looking for the next vid. Have fun.
Stay tuned lots more to come!
The best mini setup i have ever seen. Put some foams on it and speed run it, please.
I'd love to but I lack both the location to do it in and the skill to pull it off :-)
Super cool conversion. I put the 1/16 redcat volcano tires on my granite grom. They are bigger than the granite tires and alot more nubbage. I bet they would be brutal on this build
Unfortunately without doing chassis modification I'm not sure how much bigger you could get. The rear tires already rubbed the chassis on the front. I'm sure it could be done but it wouldn't be as simple as just trimming the body more
Naturally working at a hobby shop I dropped the 10-07 combo in mine Mojave Grom day one. Destroyed all the cvd/axles lol. We don’t have the upgraded Mojave length shafts so I really debated doing what you did with yours to mine since we have those parts in stock lol. Awesome stuff!
Do it!
I love watching your videos, upgrades, and comintery. Another great video!!!
Thanks :-)
Great video, love these little groms, I also had switched mine over to longer arms this past weekend for speed runs because I broke 3 front shaft pins . When I hit a 100 with it,I will turn it into a basher and have fun, lol,awesome video, keep em coming.
What's your top speed so far?
@@DoRC 68 mph before changing
Now it's 74 mph
@@badmofreaker4205 nice!
Lol, love the r2d2 scream on the last jump!😂😂😂
Yeah I noticed that when I was editing. I would have put a little image of R2D2 in there but I'm afraid Disney would sue me.
😂😂😂
Great build love all the videos! Keep it up great work
Will do Glad you enjoyed!
Wow that’s an awesome build really kool that’s a lot of the parts are interchangeable! Thanks for the great content right the the point 👍👊
Yeah I've got one more video in the series coming :-)
@@DoRC 😁 mint , definitely guna pick up one of these in the future!
Excellent build and excellent video!
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
Nice little Monster Mojave
I'm pretty happy with it. Thanks for watching!
So just a heads up, Castle now has a warning on their website NOT to use 4S with this ESC in the groms. They advise to stay with 2S only. Warranty will not be honored because of all the mesh issues and wrong pinions being used. Thats their claim anyway.
Yeah that's primarily problems with the smaller motors. That's why I run the 1010. It has a bigger shaft and is not subject to those same breakages.
That being said in my opinion in this hobby unless something fails right out of the box I probably wouldn't warranty claim it. Especially the kind of shenanigans I do are often beyond the intended use cases of the hardware so if it breaks generally it's on me.
As far as running 4S honestly unless you are speed running there's really no need for it. 3S is more than enough and 2s works really well for general bashing.
Man that’s awesome lol. Great video!
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
That was a great watch!
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
4s??? You are a mad man...
4s is often too much for 1/10 scale and you put it in there😂
I think a more "mature" choice would a quicrun 16bl30 combo on 3s with a fitting pinion gear.
I am really looking forward driving this car, but it is sold out in europe everywhere.
The only thing is... this car really makes a solid impression in stock. I definitely want to upgrade the cvds and diffs to make it bulletproof, but a power upgrade might not be necessary at all *sad wrenching noises*
I was really hyped for this video and I think this is currently one of the best small scale rc cars you can buy. Not cheap at all, but the quality you can achieve is rare at this scale. Thanks a lot man!
I did a much more reasonable upgrade here
czcams.com/video/rL1NS4FWWno/video.html
That little thing is insane!
Yeah they are a lot of fun with this much power!
Also did a great job on mods to the rc, like the body cut
Yeah I was a little worried about how it would look before I did it but I think it looks great.
Great video!
Thanks Glad you enjoyed :-)
Beast bro.
Yep!
Yeah that was awesome have to get me one.
Do it!
Looks so much better!
Yeah she's definitely a little beast now!
Cool video. But I like the closer to stock look.
Sure it's not going to be for everyone. The stock truck looks very good
Nice doctorin 👍
Thanks!
Really good information.To build A brushed Car In to Brushless.I'm Working on my 1/14 SRacing from JJRC.Looking to good to have A Brushed motor Its to slow.So Now i have ESC 2-3s And Hobby-wing Motor and Can't wait to drive it 🙏 Thanks for sharing this with Us 🙏😇 Keep it up Really good work fellow Rc lover😊
I'm sure it will be a big improvement! Let me know how it goes.
2:32 hey that was me! 🎉
Yep!
Yup, going to have to order some of the Badlands. This would pretty much match how my 6s Mojave is(kraton suspension and tires).
Yeah they look pretty cool!
Still looks great 👍
Yeah I think it came out pretty well!
Great as always! Do you think the with and tires swap is worth it if you want a granite grom but think the original one is a bit too small? And maybe another bodywould fit without having to trim it? Maybe no other body fits without mods
Do you mean putting bigger tires on the Grom or putting different tires on the Mojave. If it's on the Mojave you're going to have to trim the body pretty much no matter what. As far as different bodies in the Mojave I'm sure it's possible but the included body is pretty specifically designed to fit the car so it would be a custom job for sure
Did any debris get into the spur and pinion where you had to make the hole to check the mesh?
No but I forgot to mention in the video that I found a little rubber plug for it. I wouldn't recommend running it with a hole like that
you're created a monster 😮
Yessir!
EXACTLY what i want to do to mine.
I would recommend it. It's definitely a fun little project!
Some nitro fuel tubing or smaller diameter tubing might clean up those wheel well arches. Awesome build!
Yeah there are definitely ways to tidy it up though it really doesn't look too bad except for at the very front of the rear where the chassis is visible but that's just because I cut too much off.
Nice monster 🤟
Yeah I think it came out pretty sweet!
Great video. I would love to see links in the description to the products you use. i am excited about the Mojave Grom and waiting for it to come back in stock. Would you buy the Mojave Grom or the Typhon Grom if you had to choose one?
I'd go Mojave all day long. I feel like the form factor of the typhon really limits its versatility. It's really low slung and the Mojave just feels better. If I had to pick between all three I'd probably go with the granite though just because I'm more into stunts and tricks but the Mojave is a fun little truck.
Epic bash brother
Thanks:-) The second bash would have been more epic if I hadn't lost all of the footage of the first part of it.
@@DoRC it's happens
@@rcjoe406 yep
Love it
Yeah turned out pretty good!
Hey - do you have the ability to test AVC on any of the Grom models?
Not really but I don't really see any reason why it wouldn't work.
Granite tires r squirely. Put the boots back on with the wider stance it should be awesome. But it looks great with the granite tires tho. Honestly now thinking of doing it. My granite is fully upgraded I could just swap it all over….. great video.
I actually found the Mojave tires to be worse. They're really hard.
are those hotracing shocks the same length as stock?
Yes
An extremely cool project! I really want to put that castle system into my MJX hypergo!
talking about the Mojave - I am really interested in the speed it can do on its stock tyres. Is it possible to make such a test in one of the next videos? :)
I probably won't be doing anymore MJX 10208 videos. After a certain point it becomes diminishing return as far as views and what not are concerned though I'm sure other people have done stock speed runs.
@@DoRC ohkay, got it
But imagine that castle system in the 1/16 mjx 16208😃
@@Maxinator_RC That would be pretty wild.
@@DoRC I think so too
I already have an 2850 3600kv motor with a hobbywing 10bl60 there and it’s a beast 🔥
What size batteries work with the Mojave grom? I cant find the oem grom battery. I have a Mojave Grom in the mail and i wanna get a few extra packs.
The battery tray size should be available on the horizon website and you can just look on Amazon for what will fit. The only problem is the stock connector is an IC2 so you'll have to get an IC2 to whatever you're going to use adapter. I think horizon cells and IC2 to ic3 adapter which should open up battery availability.
Hey......what was the name of the hex bits you tse again? I lost my 2.5 mm. And I can't remember what the brand was. Thanks again!
MIP
I think they still re tip for life as well
See now... If it drove like that out the box, Arrma would literally be the SMALL SCALE RC KING.!!!
Can you imagine the love & respect they'd be getting.!?
Nobody would be able to say anything about them...
But instead, in many people's opinion, mine included, they've gone & done themselves a serious disservice by not releasing it like this.!
All they've done is give their critics & detractors ammunition to sling at them.!
It's also 100% justified criticism imho.!
I don't doubt that they'll release a brushless version, but I honestly think they should've released the it first & then release the brushed one.!
They would've had a much bigger impact that way, everyone would've been super stoked & the Internet would've been full of NOTHING but raving positive reviews rather than the mixed reviews & criticism they have now.!
If they'd sold it for something like £175/$175 THEY'D LITERALLY HAVE WON RC.!!😉 😉
Then when they released the brushed "Grom Mega"? version people would've been more than happy with them because they'd be naturally expecting less anyway...
I doubt there'd be anywhere near the same criticism as it has now.!
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Anyways, those are just my thoughts for what they're worth..
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Yeah I'm not sure what they're justification was for releasing brushed versions first. I have to imagine they will come out with a brushless version. That being said horizon is very good at making money so they probably know what they're doing.
What type of grease do you use for open differencials?
Doesn't really matter. Pretty much anything greasy will work. These gears get so little use compared to what most gears in something like an industrial setting experience that pretty much any lubricant will work just fine. Honestly you could probably get away with just leaving them dry for most applications :-)
Wonder what it would look like with the wider arms and stock tires. Think I would have to cut the body still?
Yeah pretty much anything you do that is in stock with is going to require trimming the body because of how close the tires are to it out of the box.
What metal diff is that?? From which vrand and model?.. Tia
It's the Arrma upgrade differential for these trucks. Unfortunately they're pretty much always out of stock.
Would you recommend the powerhobby diff cups?
Unfortunately I haven't tried them so I can't make a recommendation either way
This is how is should come from the factory!
Maybe though I wouldn't discount the stock form as even with the brushed system it's still pretty fun
Also, have you seen the new Proline Badlands for the grom? They look like a sweet tire option.
I did see them when they first came out then completely forgot about them. I'm sure they'll be good!
How does your pinion and spur gear do with that kind of speed?
So far they seem fine. I don't have a ton of time on this particular model but I've run four different groms with some pretty big tires and pretty big power and haven't had any issues
Now you tell me about the grub screw lol I stripped it too easily I didnt have that problem on the Typhon. Yeah its crazy and hard to drive totally forgot I had a gyro in there I could have turned on lol . My run today was cut short by the front the cvd ejecting the pin! So yeah metal ones on the way I hope they dont have the same issue
They don't. The metal ones are very strong
Great videos. It would be nice to provide links for products used
I don't do links for two reasons. The first one is that I don't want to have to keep up with the logistics of constantly changing links and second but more importantly I don't want people to think I'm trying to sell them anything because I'm not. This channel is not even monetized.
Looking at a small basher a bit like this. For an onroad competitor, do you have any thoughts on the MJX 14301 series
I had one for a little while. For a small on road car it's good though it is small enough that the surface you bash on is pretty important. It's definitely more expensive but something like the 3S infraction is a lot more versatile because of its increased ground clearance. It is quite a bit bigger though
@@DoRC Haha, this is all pocket money stuff, Infraction is a little too much. Thanks as always for your quick response and great videos!
I am surprised them granite tires didn't blow out. that was fast.
Yeah I am too. They held up really well
I have the granite grom, if I have this also, would change mojave parts to granite and vice versa as you did. G would be indoors and M outdoor bashing, if it handles little stones better than G.
I have some plans for something similar :-)
Did you get any shots of the stock tires with the wider arms?
...or even the Typhon tires?
I didn't but I did fit them and they look okay. Kind of odd and you would still have to trim the body but not terrible. I have one more video coming in this series I will fit them on to the truck in that video so you can see it.
@@DoRC Thank you!
Dope
Yeah it came out really good!
Looks like fun ) How do you think this compares to mjx 14309(the "desert buggy" style one)?
I'm sure the MJX is fine though pretty much all of those smaller MJX cars are the same car underneath just with different bodies which of course the groms are too. I don't have experience with that particular model but I've had several of their other ones and I have mixed feelings about them. They are pretty tough and represent decent value for money however they don't handle very well in general and are a pain to work on. Personally I would go Grom all day everyday even though you're going to end up spending more just for the ease of maintenance and repair as well as the availability and variety of upgrades.
@@DoRC well, yes that's true. What about some other mjx? Maybe 14210 (truggy style)?
Do have a personal preference as a small backyard basher out of the grom series?
Judging from video material, I heavily lean towards the mojave.
I'd say it depends on what you wanted to do. The Mojave is going to be the most stable out of the line but the granite has the most potential for stunt ability. The granite's also going to have a bit more ground clearance so if you're running in grass and whatnot That is a consideration. The Typhon is okay but it gives up a lot in terms of off-road ability in the name of speed and handling
Insane build! Have you had any issues with the steering servos on these Groms? Our Granite Grom hardly steers in either direction now. And its stock other than the diffs which of course failed pretty early on.
Nope. I haven't had a single steering issue yet. That being said because of how many vehicles I have none of my vehicles get that much use so long-term reliability is hard for me to evaluate sometimes
@DoRC thanks for the feedback. We are going to have to throw a servo in it because the huge turning circle is just prohibitive at this point. My son does drive the grom quite a bit, but I would think there is very little stress on the steering servo in such a little car.
@@FatherandSon_RC there is low stress on the servo but it's also a pretty weak servo.
@@DoRC agreed!
Dude, read the fire extinguishers on the back of the body when you get the chance. They put in an easter egg
That's funny! I never would have read that
@DoRC i know. Me and my buddy were closely examining the body and then noticed it. Every fire extinguisher in the world needs to say that.
@colerippeon3903 :)
Which in your opinion is better the Arrma Mojave Grom or the Arrma Typhon Grom
It really depends on what you're looking for but personally I would go for the Mojave just because it's more versatile. It's got better ground clearance and I think it's just overall more fun
@@DoRC ok thank you it’s been hard for me to decide
@@DoRC I just subscribed to you, thanks for the help
great upgrade to that mojave,,do you plan to do any upgrades to the Hyper go 10208
Something like this?
czcams.com/video/0ExnEcnjj4I/video.html
A crazy fast Mojave Grom, great work! Those little cars are so hard to control with all that power though. Check out @James McCoy, he is running a Typhon Grom on 4s, with the CC Micro X2 and 1010 motor. On his most recent run, he hit 107mph (yes, miles per hour)!
I'm not surprised. I was at maybe half throttle on those speed runs in the video. It had a lot more to give.
Is that an app you’re using for the temp?
It's an app along with a USB-C thermal camera.
@@DoRC do you have a link for the app that you could share?
Just picked up a mojave today. I want to see how far we can push these things. It's quick for stock but could definitely be faster! 😂
Yeah there are people pushing this platform over 100 mph.
@@DoRC that's absolutely insane.
Like the location youre at for a trophy truck style rc, hope its not too far a drive
It's not but unfortunately it's a construction site so there's lots of times that I can't get to it and it's not going to be there forever.
My big rock 3s has same issue with meshing gears. Never understood how a major brand could make such an important task so difficult.
The 3S trucks aren't quite so bad because you can kind of get an idea of what the mesh is going to be and the teeth are bigger but yeah it's not ideal.
That being said This car comes from the factory with set mesh on the motor mount so technically it's not designed to be adjusted like that.
You lost me with the CVDs. You said the PH CVDs didn't work on the front, but didn't specify which ones you did use. Did you end up using original Granite Grom CVDs with the longer Granite arms? I assume the Mohave CVDs were too short.
Sorry. I ended up using the pH CVDs in the rear and the original stock Mojave ones in the front as I didn't have another option. I got a replacement set of the PH CVDs and they had the same problem so I'm not really sure what the deal is.
Nothing beats those cheap Amazon motors and a hobby wing quick run esc.
Yeah I've had a lot of brushless motors over the years and I've only ever had a couple that gave me problems. It seems like for the most part it's hard to go wrong with them. I'm sure more expensive motors are more efficient and more powerful but at a basic level a brushless motor is a very simple device and kind of hard to get wrong
Awesome 😂😂😂
Glad you enjoyed :-)
once again a great video 👍👍
I wonder which is more worthwhile for a beginner and which is more fun. mojave grom for 169 € (in germany) or the senton boost for 160€ (in GER) ?!...
Because I think if you put some weights behind the rear axle on the Senton, it will give it more grip on the rear axle. 100g might be a little more or less weights behind the rear axle (fishing lead may don it) AND I THINK IT WILL BE MORE FUN THAN WITH A AWD SENTON AND MAYBE MORE THAN A MOJAVE GROM . what do you think ?
Maybe good material for a video, because the senton is available in Germany for 160€ or around 140$. And
a beginner can stick with the brushed motor and run it on 3S, which gives you around 30% more power witch is enough I think before converting it to brushless. I'm really wondering where you can get more fun for your money. And maybe you can make a comparison video out of it Senton Boost with weights VS Slash or an arrma video in which the Senton Boost competes against the Mojave Grom in price and fun comparison?! 😁😏
....greetings from Berlin✌...keep it up
I think the larger car will be more fun for most people out of the box though two wheel drive can be fairly challenging. Honestly I would probably save up just a little bit more and get a four-wheel drive 1/10 scale vehicle.
Can’t wait for the losi nascar mini to come out and the speed with it on 4s
Yeah it should be pretty crazy!
geez with paddle tires and a granite body that thing maybe safe to skip across water !
Yeah it probably would.
My 1/16 slash flipped 3 times just watching this video.
:)
I lost my breakfast when the scissors came out.
Yeah I knew it would make some people feel woozy. What do you think of the end result though?
Looks like a mini monster slash
Yep!
Motor brushless size ?
It's a Castle 1010. I don't remember what physical dimensions that is but you should be able to look it up on their site
Maybe consider giving both on road and off road top speeds?
I thought about it but to be honest for the most part on road top speed doesn't really interest me and I like to base what I record off of what I would be doing anyway :-)
I think itll be better to be bit wider
InnovationRC has a friend with a typhon grom that went 100mph which is psychotic lol
That's crazy. I don't have the skills or the location to try something like that but it sounds like fun!
Thought this esc uses an external BEC, I don't see it
They did it first but the ESC was updated with an internal BEC
Looks like arrmas version of the monster slash but micro and faster 😂😂
Pretty much yes :-)
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Thanks for watching :-)
this thing screams like r2d2 falling off a cliff
That's exactly what I thought in editing. If I didn't think I would get slap with a copyright I would have put him in there there