Never in a million years I would have thought that a 30 wpc @ 8 ohms amp would be able to drive such large speakers with ease & lots of power. Great video. 👍👍👍👍
in about 1980 I went to a stereo store Intending on buying one or the other of these after listening to them side buy side, was about to get the JBLs when the lady there turned on a pair of Wharfedale E70s. I paid double for them but it was well worth it. To this day still the best speakers I have ever heard
I have JBLs hooked up to my 2325 downstairs and upstairs on the sx1250 also with JBLs .Sold my Polk7Bs To my employer so I get to listen to them everyday at work. Love your Man cave . Keep rocking 👍🎸😎
Vintage JBL L100 are more efficient speakers that's why they already sound good with a little power. HPM100 sound kinda muffled and power hungry because they're 100-200W, and fun fact: if your HPM100 port has a silver trim ring, it means that HPM100 is a 200W speaker, and I see the fair comparison to the modern JBL L100 Classic because it has the same 200W RMS.
Your system sounds great, IMHO, the vintage sound is hard to beat ! My current setup is 2 pairs of HPM-100s, stacked, and wired in parallel, spaced about 9 feet apart, and 2 feet from side & back walls. Toed-in slightly toward the center of the room. These are powered by one of the following (all are in rotation in my listening room): Pioneer SX-1250 (restored, tested @ 194 wpc), Carver M500t amp (250 wpc), or a Luxman R117 receiver (under-rated @ 165 wpc). The soundstage is enormous, and can be driven to near-concert levels without noticeable distortion. I love doing first-time demos for people, and watching their jaws drop when I crank up some Dire Straits "Brothers In Arms". Rock on, Gentlemen !
I have both L100 and HPM100 I love them both, each has its own way of sounding. I favor more on the L100 because the Pioneers bass gets a bit boomy at high volume but I find the HPM's to have a bit better highs Rock n Roll
That’s a really nice stereo setup they make some ok stuff nowadays and I’ve tried plenty of them but keep going back to the old vintage hifi. It just sounds better to me.
In my opinion Black Cow sounded the same a bit more bassy in HPM all in all it's a close shot. I think the best way to compare speakers is to listen to it in the same shot thru a switch back and forth. The sound signature stamped in our memory from one session to another seems to get mixed up while we are replacing the units. Both pairs are sounding excellent.
Sounds really well, love my HPM's 100w and 200w version, both are identical besides the silver ring on the 200w version, I don't own the L100, but I do the 4312A and the L96, believe it or not I'll take the L96 any time any day
The speaker designer that designed the L 100 was hired from Pioneer to design the hpm line after the success of the JBL. I have a pair of hmp 100 that is in storage I don't use them because I honestly with the new speaker technology I have designed better sounding speakers than those. I was planning on re designing the crossover because on the mid band crossover it just has a low pass filter and rolls of on its on I want to have it roll off at 3000 Hz so it doesn't lob over with the tweeter and then I would end up replacing the tweeter and I would have to brace the inside of the cabinet because they didn't use bracing back then relimanate the cabinets and after all that I might as well just just design a new speaker. They didn't have the software for designing crossovers and cabinets that we do today and the driver technology has gotten much better.
Possibly so, i wish i had more time to compare them with different amps and sources. Both speakers sounded great for the age and being in unrestored condition. Sometimes i wish i could blindfold myself and a/b them, because i am definitely partial to JBL.
Funny you should say that. Russ and I have done several comparisons with the L100 Centuries, and my impression was always that the L100s sounded like somebody drew a smilie face with an equalizer, which implies less midrange. Now, the L100 Classics are another story entirely! The only thing in common with the L100 Centuries is the model number and Quadrex foam grille
@@Kevinsrack everytime i think about our comparisons, i think of the guy that wrote the review for the L100 Classics saying he heard them in the 70’s LMFAO!!
the highs pretty much disappeared when you put them orange grilles on the l100s!..what cloth is that?..and is the original black mesh still inside the frames?..if so remove that its not needed for cloth inserts..the l100 grilles are cool but that step back design sets the tweeters back in so far with edges surround it..those edges cause diffraction of the highs..i think the grille frames themselves hurt the high frequencies even without foam or cloth in them
Thats my buddy Kens set up (the smart ass in the back lol) hes getting the fancy quadraflex grilles for them. I agree, theyre not as good with the covers on. He bought them off of marketplace like that. I think those were home made.
I have my L100's hooked to my Sansui 7070. Pretty incredible. When more volume (or bass) is needed, I use my Pioneer CS-C9900 (15's) with my Scott 380R (80W). Sansui sits atop Scott and I use "Y" rca adapters to run them together. Like Van Halen, Best of Both Worlds
take a vaccum cleaner on low setting , and suck your pushed in speaker centre out... on my system the fist set of speakers sounded awesome , the seconds a close second! peace.
I own 1976 HPM-100s. Still going after 48 years. Incredible!!!
Never in a million years I would have thought that a 30 wpc @ 8 ohms amp would be able to drive such large speakers with ease & lots of power. Great video. 👍👍👍👍
in about 1980 I went to a stereo store Intending on buying one or the other of these after listening to them side buy side, was about to get the JBLs when the lady there turned on a pair of Wharfedale E70s. I paid double for them but it was well worth it. To this day still the best speakers I have ever heard
I have JBLs hooked up to my 2325 downstairs and upstairs on the sx1250 also with JBLs .Sold my Polk7Bs To my employer so I get to listen to them everyday at work. Love your Man cave . Keep rocking 👍🎸😎
Vintage JBL L100 are more efficient speakers that's why they already sound good with a little power. HPM100 sound kinda muffled and power hungry because they're 100-200W, and fun fact: if your HPM100 port has a silver trim ring, it means that HPM100 is a 200W speaker, and I see the fair comparison to the modern JBL L100 Classic because it has the same 200W RMS.
I feel the JBL sound better than the Pioneers honestly. Maybe this is why? But the JBL won with every receiver we tried hooking them up to
У меня были обе эти системы,но L100 явно лучше…
Your system sounds great, IMHO, the vintage sound is hard to beat ! My current setup is 2 pairs of HPM-100s, stacked, and wired in parallel, spaced about 9 feet apart, and 2 feet from side & back walls. Toed-in slightly toward the center of the room. These are powered by one of the following (all are in rotation in my listening room): Pioneer SX-1250 (restored, tested @ 194 wpc), Carver M500t amp (250 wpc), or a Luxman R117 receiver (under-rated @ 165 wpc). The soundstage is enormous, and can be driven to near-concert levels without noticeable distortion. I love doing first-time demos for people, and watching their jaws drop when I crank up some Dire Straits "Brothers In Arms".
Rock on, Gentlemen !
Fuck yea!!! Im sure its bad ass!! Rock on brother!!
I think you're right about Pioneer. Receivers matching better with the h. PM 100 I have ASX750 and it does great with my H. PM one hundreds.
I have both L100 and HPM100
I love them both, each has its own way of sounding.
I favor more on the L100 because the Pioneers bass gets a bit boomy at high volume but I find the HPM's to have a bit better highs
Rock n Roll
That’s a really nice stereo setup they make some ok stuff nowadays and I’ve tried plenty of them but keep going back to the old vintage hifi. It just sounds better to me.
Love it...! Good sounding Marantz receiver, cassettedeck and Sony CD combo / JBL / Pioneer speaker match.
In my opinion Black Cow sounded the same a bit more bassy in HPM all in all it's a close shot. I think the best way to compare speakers is to listen to it in the same shot thru a switch back and forth. The sound signature stamped in our memory from one session to another seems to get mixed up while we are replacing the units. Both pairs are sounding excellent.
Sounds really well, love my HPM's 100w and 200w version, both are identical besides the silver ring on the 200w version, I don't own the L100, but I do the 4312A and the L96, believe it or not I'll take the L96 any time any day
At one time I had a set Of Realistic Mach ones And the Pioneer hpm 100 on top and they rocked Ĥpm are very good speakers
The speaker designer that designed the L 100 was hired from Pioneer to design the hpm line after the success of the JBL. I have a pair of hmp 100 that is in storage I don't use them because I honestly with the new speaker technology I have designed better sounding speakers than those. I was planning on re designing the crossover because on the mid band crossover it just has a low pass filter and rolls of on its on I want to have it roll off at 3000 Hz so it doesn't lob over with the tweeter and then I would end up replacing the tweeter and I would have to brace the inside of the cabinet because they didn't use bracing back then relimanate the cabinets and after all that I might as well just just design a new speaker. They didn't have the software for designing crossovers and cabinets that we do today and the driver technology has gotten much better.
I used to have those speakers sold them, but man, those HPM series are the best.
Thats awesome vid dudes. Keep on rockin
Always!! Rock on!
This is no way for someone on the net to compare, but to me the HPM-100 sound much better than the JBL 100s.
Who sings the third song, Shadow? I’m partial to the HPM100 as I own a pair but they have been recapped and sound great
I know we are depending on a lot of horrible methods to make a judgement, but that said, the JBL seem to be lacking midrange clarity
Possibly so, i wish i had more time to compare them with different amps and sources. Both speakers sounded great for the age and being in unrestored condition. Sometimes i wish i could blindfold myself and a/b them, because i am definitely partial to JBL.
@@rockrollhi-figuy6824 Yes. Confirmation Bias is a real thing.
Funny you should say that. Russ and I have done several comparisons with the L100 Centuries, and my impression was always that the L100s sounded like somebody drew a smilie face with an equalizer, which implies less midrange. Now, the L100 Classics are another story entirely! The only thing in common with the L100 Centuries is the model number and Quadrex foam grille
@@Kevinsrack everytime i think about our comparisons, i think of the guy that wrote the review for the L100 Classics saying he heard them in the 70’s LMFAO!!
the highs pretty much disappeared when you put them orange grilles on the l100s!..what cloth is that?..and is the original black mesh still inside the frames?..if so remove that its not needed for cloth inserts..the l100 grilles are cool but that step back design sets the tweeters back in so far with edges surround it..those edges cause diffraction of the highs..i think the grille frames themselves hurt the high frequencies even without foam or cloth in them
Thats my buddy Kens set up (the smart ass in the back lol) hes getting the fancy quadraflex grilles for them. I agree, theyre not as good with the covers on. He bought them off of marketplace like that. I think those were home made.
I have the HPM-100 200 Watt version.
are you guys in Nazareth PA? I see the banner in the back?
guess not That's Nazareth the band
@@TheCyclingAdvisor ironically enough, im not far from Nazareth PA.
@@rockrollhi-figuy6824 I grew up there
I have my L100's hooked to my Sansui 7070. Pretty incredible. When more volume (or bass) is needed,
I use my Pioneer CS-C9900 (15's) with my Scott 380R (80W).
Sansui sits atop Scott and I use "Y" rca adapters to run them together.
Like Van Halen, Best of Both Worlds
I have a pair of hpm 100 200w version. I’m curious to know which is the better speaker between the hpm 100’s and Jbl l100
I truly believe that it depends on the amp. In this case id pick the JBL
Sounds good on my atmos 5.1.2 soundbar probably much better there!
Definitely gonna be a fun one
JBL all the way
I think the L100's sound better- Good comparison though!
I would have to agree
Fantastic
What do you think of the Klipsch Heresy? The three big speakers of the 70's-80's was the L100, HPM-100 and the Heresy
I know of them but i haven’t got my hands on a pair yet
I love my Klipsch Heresy's they are a great Rock speaker, I want to get a set of L100's after watching your video!@@rockrollhi-figuy6824
take a vaccum cleaner on low setting , and suck your pushed in speaker centre out... on my system the fist set of speakers sounded awesome , the seconds a close second! peace.
A small car vac does awesome.
Warferdale E70
JBLs are much cleaner, better Bass, better Vocals...."
Never cared for the HPM''s....all sizzle, no steak. Certainly not comparable to JBL.
muddy