We Bought The Cheapest MTB Tyres From Amazon | Cheap Vs Expensive
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- Tires are what connect you to the ground. They're the intermediary between the input that you put into the bike and the ground, so you want something that is going to work well for the conditions, surface and obstacles, right? Big-brand modern mountain bike tyres have a lot of research and development into tread patterns, rubber compounds, sidewall technology and tubeless compatibility, all designed to give you grip where you need it on the trail. But, with that, comes a substantial price tag. Will we have as good a time on the bike if we threw caution to the wind and instead, use the cheapest ones we could find online?
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0:00 - The importance of good tyres
0:46 - The cheap tyres
1:32 - The expensive tyres
1:55 - The details
4:24 - Tire weight
6:06 - On-trail comparison
12:47 - Findings & Conclusions
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I do take your point about the risks of skimping on tyres, but I think the results of this comparison were always going to be obvious, especially as you are also comparing tyres and tubes to a tubeless setup. As Vittoria is a sponsor of GMBN Tech. It does look a bit like an infomercial to me.
Well, its their job. And they dont promote crappy brands, only good ones. I have no complaints here.
I was thinking the same thing. I generally hold GCN/GMBN budget "comparisons" with a pretty big grain of salt. I honestly prefer to go to the smaller CZcams channels (the ones who actually have to pay for all the stuff themselves) for reviews on more modestly priced bike gear. 🤷
Personally, i’ve used mid range vittoria and their top of the line. Even the mid range cannot compare.
@@komoonkh Doesn't make the video any less biased. That being said; anyone could swap Vittoria for Maxxis or any other quality tire and likely get the same results when comparing them to Baldy's Brown Walls. Huge difference between casual riding ona flat paved surface on cheap tires that simply need to contact the ground and mvoe you vs a dedicated MTB tire that is readily used on downhill or technical trails. If you are an avid MTB rider and use the bike for what it was intended and want "cheap" look for discounts or sales and go with the cheapest quality tire and don't skimp (you don't need to buy the most expensive either).
Also riding conditions matter - are you racing? or just riding because you love riding? If racing then yes high tier tires are likely better suited - if you're just hitting trails on the weekends and your spare time then you don't need the Cadillac unless you have tons of throwaway money or don't care about price. But again if you're simply riding on the sidewalk to little Billy's house and back maybe the Baldy Browns might be fine for you.
Two compromises I won't make are brakes and tyres. One keeps you connected to the world, and the other stops you from becoming part of it. I'm a recent convert to Schwalbe (Magic Mary on the front and Big Betty on the rear).
I have the same setup… 2.6 DH Mary on front…so heavy but absolute grip!
I transferred away from Schwalbe so that I didnt die
like the Mary's but do find they wear quickly. But really nice grip.
Honestly cheap brakes are amazing deores, magura mt sport, and tektro orions are all killer cheap brakes
I have a 3rd, helmets
Maxxis DHF and DHR is a hard combo to move away from
i know this sounds cursed, but try swapping them
dhr on the front
dhf on the rear
Try Continental, had DHR, swapped it for a Xynotal. Definitely more grip, plus rolls easier. Only downside is they are almost impossible to install in good rims
Assegai-Dissector is also pretty sweet
CST and WTB are my go to brands. They're mid pack priced, but still good bang for buck tires.
I used wtb for years when I was riding downhill trails. Good choice. Can't do downhill any more now, too many injuries
i'll be the first to admit that i buy cheap parts sometimes, as long as strength and safety aren't compromised. that being said, cheap tires are not safe. great video, anna.
Try the versus tires. Way cheaper than vittoria but will go toe to toe with vittoria in the 2.4 wide sizes.
Nothing to do with price really . You can buy an expensive xc tyre and it'll be crap on a enduro bike. These tyres are probably fine for what there made for. Which is normally light gravel canal trails
I did run cheap unbranded tyre when I first started mountain biking. Now I run Maxxis tyres on my current hardtail. The front is a DHF EXO+, the rear is currently a DHR2 EXO+. But I do also run the Rekon EXO+ on the rear for less drag when the weather improves here in the UK.
I picked up a pair of scwalbe smart sam for my wifes budget hardtail. These were excellent value and gave her a lot more confidence on the rougher terrain we ride locally.
We have been able to run them at about 28psi f/r with tubes without any issues.
I highly recommend looking into some scwalbes if your on a budget as they do some great tyres in at this price point.
I had he same tyres on my bike and they deformed after 900 km. Hope you will have better expirience.
I had cheap tires previously, I now run continental Cross Kings on my hard tail x country, and continental trail Kings on my DH bike... I find my riding a lot quicker & confident than I did on unbranded cheap tyres 😊
I had Continental Trail kings on my old bike. My experience wasn't too good. Constant punctures. I have just a Maxxis Ardent on the rear of my new bike and Schawlbe Hanns Damf on the front and have never had a puncture yet. However, my old bike was a 26er and the new bikes a 29er. Have you had a lot of punctures with your continental trail king?
@@McScotAdventures no not really, but they are all old school running tubes, and I've lined the insides with an old inner tube cut around the centre and wrapped around the new inner tube
@@danlakermtb Fair enough. Just wondered if I had some bad luck with them. 👍
There are 3 variant of it, the cheapest one is very puncture prone
Panaracer fire sport came on my last bike they’ve been brilliant if heavy, just looked them up on line under £18 for tubed £30 for tubeless 💪🏼
I'd love to see you compare your preferred Mazza's to Delium tires offerings.. for "budget" tires they perform amazing for me.
My golden rule of any wheeled vehicles be it a bike or a car - don't cheap out on contact points, you will regret it. Tires, grips, shoe/pedal combination will make all the difference in the most important moments.
There should be a midle ground between overpriced rubber and the no'name tires tested here. Never paid more than 30€ per tyre and always bought good brands but often on discount.
@@yordankrushkov8488 depends on what you ride, sometimes it's worth paying extra for things like DD casing if you ride rough stuff but yeah 30-40€ can already get you a decent tire. Good advice is to think ahead when your tires are close to toast and hunt for discounts. A few months back I bought Maxxis High Roller II for 30% of original price because it was OEM version taken from a brand new bike.
@@DirtlovR exactly, hunt for good deals in advance is also my way to go.
I just bought Specialized Ground Control on sale from my LBS and they were $35 CDN, regular $95 CDN. I love the grip of them
Anna,, basically carrying the whole gmbn franchise right now… 💪
Key for me on a front tire is transition knobs, I found they make a big difference. Just replaced my Maxxis Minion on the front with a Maxxis Asssegai and noticed a big difference., much more confidence on the trail. Rubber compound matters too. I recently used Maxxis Dual compound on the rear and while it wears better, it can be slippy.
assegai on the front, minion onm the back 😎
@@irfuel lol,,i always do that.
I ride trials and road, I recently tried Vittoria Mezcals and found their center offset tread pattern gives less vibration and the grip is very confidence inspiring. highly recommended. After years of riding I realised that whatever I am riding or driving the tyres need to be the best grip for the conditions and not long lasting
I run Schwabe Big Betty on the rear and Magic Mary on the front. I used to run Maxxis and one day I decided to change. Quite happy with my Schwalbe and probably not go back to Maxxis for a while. Mid-price tyres like £30-£50 aren't too bad. But yeah a decent name brand is always a good choice.
I recognize the trail, you are in my backyard in Alhaurin! Cheers
Think it makes more sense to compare the cheaper version of branded tyres with the most expensive. Eg Schwalbe Performance versus Evo. My experience : noticable up front when wet, not for the rear.
Interesting report.
As I run 26s finding good tyres is getting harder but I would still not swap to rubbish tyres.
Currently running Terra-one T1 tyres which are fast rolling and suit the retro aesthetic BUT importantly for me work well with my style of riding for local trails.
I swap to some big DH tyres for park riding and Schwalbe magic Mary’s are going for £20ish in 26x2.35. Sadly choice is super limited in the UK - rest of Europe you can still get a good range.
Sticking with little wheels and swapped back from 29s as I prefer agile, jump bike style DH/fun vs racing
I've had to pretty much go completely Schwalbe for my 26" bikes. I still have one set of CST Rock Hawks that are pretty decent as well.
@@That_Stealth_Guy yeah I can only seem to find the magic Mary’s locally. Friends in the EU have a lot more choice but UK sucks (for many reasons) 🤣
Now that is crazy odd. I have gotten 26 inch fincchi mtb tires. Same models as those, even same exact treat pattern. They feel squidgy and kind of like super thick balloons. They feel really nice to ride on. But I ride mix of asphalt and light trails. I am soo worried about punctures with them. -.-
Really in depth in this video.
There are some thing to save money on like bottle cages or not having computers and what not but spending the money on decent tyres is a good investment
There’s always a happy medium between astronomically pricy tires and dirt cheap, no name rubber.
Had to replace my Victory Barzo after 4700 km use not bad 👍
really? my current bike came with maxxis tyres with the soft compound and the rear one is almost gone after 600km..
That's fantastic km on the Barzo.
Vee Rubber tires are extremely cheap and surprisingly good, I have a set of attack gravity core and they are sticking at every temperature wet of dry. Better than most big brands I've tried in my local conditions...
Please kindly do a review on Vittoria Agarro front and rear combo thanks. Love Vittoria tires.
I've found the nose is where money goes. I run a Der Kaiser up front (£65) and a Continental Vapour 2,1 out back (£18). Keeps costs low, let's the arse slip just enough in the corners but offers grip where it's needed. The 61mm front and 54mm rear reduces rolling resistance too, makes trail riding way more comfortable.
Yeah cheap tires suck when you get the chance to ride some nice ones! Great video!
What tyre would be the best for terrain full of loose rocks, dry sand and pebbles?
I think it should be made more apparent that GMBN is supported/sponsored by Vittoria in this video. It should be clear that GMBN are likely compensated for saying positive things about Vittoria.
I know that from an entertainment perspective it's great fun to see how cheaply you can find a tyre pair. But using unmatched tyres with totally different compounds, tread patterns and widths doesn't seem like a fair test. I understand that smaller tyre manufacturers are unlikely to be able to supply as wide a range of spec offerings including the lack of tubeless compatibility and it's good that you've mentioned this because it is relevant, but you haven't exactly given them a level playing field to begin with.
Why not pick a bike that uses two equally sized wheels if you want to test these particular tyres fairly. Many tyres will perform best when paired together rather than using a totally different tyre on the front vs rear. Alternatively changing the theme of the video slightly you could have spent slightly more money on tyres from a manufacturer like Vee or Onza perhaps who would have been able to supply you with a tubeless tyre in your given size spec.
Lastly I think it's a bit disappointing that this test is based entirely on anecdotal evidence. You mentioned that you're running 19.5 psi in the rear amazon tyre, and then you list the manufacturers recommend pressures for the front but don't say what you're actually using. We don't even know comparatively low long it took you to get down that trail on the Vittoria's vs the Amazon tyres. Would it also not have been possible to compare these tyres in various conditions rather than one short trail? All we're presented with is a few comments suggesting the tyre slides out which could just as easily be down to line choice as it could be poor tyres.
My point really is just that this video doesn't feel very well thought out or transparent for your viewers. It's a sales pitch for Vittoria hidden behind a sudo-scientific test and it's a bit disappointing.
I've run plenty of non "tubeless ready" tires tubeless and some on rims that are also not "tubeless ready."
I'm trying 29er Vee Tires. Flow Snap in front, Crown Gem in rear. Seem ok compared to stock WTB Rangers that came with my bike, but heavier. Lots of side grip on the front too.
Ive recently tried out vee tires too and absolutely love them. I have an attack top 40 compound up front and a crown gem in the back. They have a super low tpi but i feel glued to the trail with that top 40 compound
I think it would have more sense to go for a budget tubeless option for a bike retailer so people can get a better idea of whats available from High Street bike shops.
i have the 29 x 2.6 fincci tires and they were way bigger than the the advertised 68 mm that's printed on the sidewall
It sounds from the comparison that you had more fun on the descent on the cheaper tyres
I used to ride shitty tyres and it's ok when you are used to it, the moment you switch is when muscle memory makes mistakes...Currently using Schwalbe racing ralph addix on the rear, and a cheapo rapid rob on the front. I wanna replace it with a racing ray this summer.
Funny enough my dad runs cheap Rapid Robs, surprisingly good tyres for the money.
I've got some Fincci tyres, and I actually quite like them, 26x4.0 tho, great traction on dry asphalt and amazing off road. They're not great on wet asphalt.
If the rubber is too hard tires have bad grip on wet roads, the same with old, hardened car tires. However there are not that much brands which offer fat bike tires and the tires are all relatively expensive
I've been using Vee Rubber Flow Snap 27.5s with dual compound rubber, $20usd delivered. Good enough for Aaron Gain doing DH
that is weird- those cost 50-70€ here, so the same as all the other brand names
"Damned with faint praise" is the phrase that springs to mind.................................
These cheap tires are probably best used by those folks who just want a casual flat fire road ride. My sister and frankly, my wife, both fit this category.
Look I love you guys and I understand that sponsors are needed to run the channel however, it would be really nice if you guys could test some of the actual affordable mountain bike tires made by companies who are trying to give a better price point. Of course the hundred-dollar tire is going to be better than the $17 Tire we know that Victoria and Maxxis make great tires but what about the other brands out there trying to make affordable tires? Is a tire that is half the price half as good? are there scenarios in which saving that money there could help some people spend more time on the trail?
Try CTS tyres. I hear they are a good option for low budgets.
Should have done a skid on pavement. I got a free set of Amazon tires for a weird size bike. They're actually pretty okay except when you lock up the tire and the knobs peel right off.
well, you dont have to spend maxxis money for a good tire. recently, ive switched to specialized mtb tires and love them! much more affordable than most brands we all know and perform awesome for me, although im just an average rider
Most good tyres are a bit expensive, you can go as low as 40 dollars or euros, sometimes less for DH tires with super sticky rubber, which you would wear out after a few rides, so generally it´s not worth buying cheap tyres, either you get horrible carcasses and rubber, inconsistent tread pattern, or faulty products, it´s best to spend between 40 and 80 dollars/euros and get something nice, any brand will do honestly, these days technology has improved so much, personally i have tried many brands, with Continental and WTB being my favs, Maxxis, Schwalbe, Michelin are also top notch as long as you only use the DHF on the rear (washes out on the front) and I run tubes with tough casings and tyre inserts, never gotten a puncture, even without inserts, that is just personal preference. I learned that rubber only really makes a difference when it comes to wet roots and rock slides, so I would prioritize tread pattern and sidewall stability over that, hence why I like WTB vigilantes so much, they last longer than Maxxis and offer similar grip at a reasonable price. I ride Enduro/ downhill trails with loose conditions all year round and rocky and muddy are there too. Hope this helps
Now If you only ride gravel roads at a slow pace then yeah any tyre will do, but you do have to deal with punctures, most of my punctures were because of sharp rocks on landings and spines from plants on XC tires
Did you add the tube weight?
Cheng shin tire makes many rebranded tires and tubes including specialized/maxxis/cst
That said I love my 20$ cst cambers
I did find it odd to weigh tires (tyres) with the paper wrap still attached.
I gotta admit I'm a bargain hunter. Just got a new folding Kenda Nevegal for $30 including shipping.
I've has REALLY good fortune with Kenda tires. I'm running a Hell Diver Pro 2.4 on the rear for a little less rolling resistance (it's a semi-slick), but it really performs well, especially in the corners! The carcass is at least as strong as a Maxis EXO+, but probably closer to the Double Down. At less than 800 grams and less than $50; I couldn't be happier.
obviously they are no mazza and wouldn't do for enduro but i just got a 2.4 maxxis ardent for £27, to do a test on my bike as all the 29er tyres i had where too big for what i wanted to test. hunt around for deals and you can at least get a good brand and tubeless for that sort of money
I take some issue with this experiment as you purchased the absolute cheapest tiers you can buy. There are great deals, "cheap" tires you can buy that are great quality from Maxxis, etc.
Should have grabbed a pair of Mike Bear tires ;-)
Anyone used the Hutchinson Griffus tyres before? They look pretty good and i want to give them a try
They’re great tyres ... make sure to get the 2.5” upfront (it’s slightly different tread pattern to the 2.4)
Those tires are more for the what we call posers you see them round town on there mtb but ya never see them on the actual trails. And that's cool but they don't really need a high end tire. The concrete they mostly ride on is going to eat them up fast so cheap is the way to go.
Great vid. Little gutsy taking those tires actually on a class rated trail.
Lol keepemcoming now ya hear.
Riding while making toon noises sounds like fun. It's also a sign of safety risk 😮.
Continental Kryptotals on my trail bike.
I love my Vittoria Barzo but Chaoyang tires at 1/2 price comes close
hmmm tube or tubeless thats personal choice not a detractor to me . as far as puncture there are inserts also green slime which to me is tire sealant like tubeless tires use ? each tire i put on my bike i have had to learn its downfalls and then turn it into success yep disaster can shine sometimes i've had vittoria tires i just hate because they kick out then the reverses i love saguaro sad face do not fit my newer bike i love there grip able to plow thru mud puddles kinda like sand paper in water . on the newer bike i run minion i try to run all season tire i'm trail road bike rider i do hit some rocks and bridges on the trails learned to respect the bridge when wet or muddy
#askGMBNTech Thinking about my previous comment... How about doing a similar test.. .but only run a cheap tyre on the rear (or a balding tyre) and see how much that slows you down.
(Personally I find I feel more comfortable with a worn rear rather than new... I swap my front Minion to the rear when replacing the front.
was having trouble making eye contact
So… the bottom line… you can have way more fun at slower speeds with the cheap tires…
Hard to tell too as you can never take the exact same line
I would have expected that the cheaper tires to be chosen would have around the same knob height. This is enduro vs XC tires.
So for y’all that run top-brand stuff - how often do you find yourself replacing them? Once a year? Every season? I imagine no-brand tires will last 1/4 of that … and that’s the video the world needs to see, if anyone is willing to break a few bones for it.
How much do the tyres cost when bought with non ENGLISH pounds.
I just purchased a shwable tough Tom just £20. 26”
Amazing tyres. Trail and enduro on a budget. I'm impressed with the set my mate is running.
Yeah ok but how do they compare to the mike bears?
Dam as someone who has a fat tire bike now I understand why it's so heavy the tires are 4kg a piece 😱
You left out the tubes vs tubeless in the weight comparison. Otherwise it doesn’t sound so bad.
When adding tubeless into the mix it's apples and oranges. Should have bought the cheapest tubeless and then compared those to the tubeless you're already running.
Also, is the brand you run a sponsor of GMBN?
I think I would be ok with cheap tires on my cruiser bicycle being I don't do anything to crazy with my bike plus I don't think my cruiser bicycle might not be able to handle mountain biking it is a low cost bike from Walmart or target
A much more useful comparison would be to test a $80-90 tire to a decent budget $40-50 tire. We already know how the cheapest crap tire on the internet peforms.
Id use cheaper tyres for roads and easy rides. I regularly ride around the hills and mountains i live, a mix of road and grass, with dome dirt paths. Some small rocky but nothing much. Cheap tyres would be fine and are . If i was still in my downhill years, long ago, id pay extra for a good set
would have been a much more useful video to look at Specialized tyres. about £30 for the regular compounds, easy to buy, wide selection, and actually good tyres. Picking bargain basement tyres off Amazon isn't especially relevant for most people - especially those riding at the level Anna is
8:47 That’s what she said! 😅
Sad you did not tried to tubeless them, just to see,cuz thy tpi was high enough
Just get the wired maxxis ardent I think it's just under 15 dollars
Great gravel hard pack tyre but not very forgiving on slick clay. I run a set for summer now just switched over to the DHR for our NZ winter
You just can't have the same amount of fun on cheap tires.
Where is Blake and doddy? I think this comparison could have been a lot more stark if the side knobs were ever used in the trail comparison. The rider did not corner the bike hard and went offline lots on a mellow trail. I have watched gmbn for years and love the high quality content and I think the riding needs to match the enduro nature of the tire. Still a good video but would love to see it re done with Blake or doddy who are way more aggressive and pushing the limit of the tire.
Just like sports cars, you're WAY better off buying the best rubber you can afford. After all, tyres are the only thing grabbing you and your bike to planet Earth.
What is the best tire combination?
depends on what trail/bike you use
the ones that go on the rim
Define "best" first.
@@janeblogs324 grip
why are your bars so wide ??
I just got two vittoria martello 2.5 for £60 🤷♂️
There is no sense in comparing good trail tires to the cheapest thing on Amazon. Maybe a comparison between vittoria/maxxis/specialized/wtb/bontrager? That would be far more helpful
I am kinda disappointed: Even if you put on high quality and pricier XC tyres on your Mega, they will be overwhelmed when riding Enduro style trails... Trying some cheapo Nobby Enduro tyres would be a valid comparison for this topic.
Sure I get the point that tyres make a big difference. That is why I run Magic Marry Soft for bikeparks and 2.6" Forecaster and Recon when there is no lift 🤫😉
Or a matching pair of Nobby Nics in TLR for £61 total delivered prompt by Merlin... yeah, I'll save £21 buying some heavy, non tubeless, naff Johnny Cheapos off of Scamazon....
cheap tyres ... as you said 'I like my teeth too much' ... I'll stock up on a premium tyres (Maxxis DHR2 .. etc) when they are on sale to help manage the long term costs ... buying for my missus too!
Still use tubes. NEVER get punctures 😎
XC VS ENDURO???
🤔
I'd rather go with a name brand. Don't care too much which brand, just make sure you don't pay MSRP.
Usually there are sales that give up to 50% on MSRP, so the difference between a name brand an a cheap chinese brand doesn't justify choosing the latter.
60-70£ in the UK? wtf Decent MTB tires (maxxis, continental, Schwalbe, etc.) cost approx. 20-45 EUR in Germany
Branded every time for me.
Versus tires. They give vittoria a run for their money in enduro or downhill.
Like cheap car tyres, the cheap bike tyres are likely to be really bad in the wet.
Michelin dh22 for a Downhill and Maxxis for Enduro/Trail no need to look elsewere
Why review the cheapest tires that you cant even run tubeless?? Why not get american classic tires? Or delium? Or even continental tires can be has for around $55 which is still half of maxis. Dont do the cheapest of the cheap. Obviously that always sucks. But tires at or around the mid price point is where you might actually find a decent tire.
brand new tyres need breaking in so grip isnt optimal on first ride... but cheap rubber is cheap.
I only do XC but I will never choose cheap tires! Only premium quality for me! Only Michelin/Schwalbe or Vittoria for me. I rather spend a bit more money on tires than on my Health Insurance 🙂. If you are spending over EUR 4000,-- for your bike, why choose tires which are EUR 50,- cheaper, that does not makes sense to me..
Tyres should never be skimped on.
Everyone will have their own opinions
But Michelin, WTB, & Continental are the kings.
Maxxis are also very good.
Can't stand Schwalbe, nothing but bad experiences
It's the same on cars and motorbikes people complain when performance tyres are expensive. Try proper Michelin Road Pilots against some crappy £50 Chinese tyres and tell me how the difference feels
I would use branded tires cheap will not last as long not euff tred on the easier to get hurt and slide a lot not as rippy and fun even branded tires cus bitbmore it worth money in safety
Yea, no cheap Tyres for me. Tufo XC13 and XC14 and both Tyres are great.