Iwata LS400 1.3 For Base & Clear Coat
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- My ramblings on the series 1 LS400 , a few people have mentioned this is a good clear gun and they are right, thanks for watching 👍
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Well Pete, I think I found the problem. I was using a 1.3 lph nozzle in the ws. Once I changed to the 1.4, all is much better. The pattern is more elliptical than the LPH but,it's as large and much more even than using the 1.3. It just wouldn't spray with a LPH 1.3 nozzle in it
-5 here this morning burner packed up in my booth yesterday so cant do any top coat till engineer shows up what an absolute shame I'm gutted 🤣🤣🤣 great vid mate
Morning Dean, that's a pain, you're certainly not getting much done without heating at the moment, same in my workshop, -4 at the moment
I'm taking delivery of a small diesel space heater this morning to warm things up a bit, got it on Ebay and wile i was umming and aahing about getting it the numbers available were going down and down😂.
Cheers mate 👍
Another great video Pete, considering you was spraying at an angle you got a very nice finish on that, although it looks uncomfortable and almost kackhanded but you managed to pull it off, nice colour this on as well, I think we can see more on the screen than you can depending on how big you editing screen is, and the finish does look very nice the colour does hide it a lot but you can catch a glimpse of it at the right angle as you was panning over. Cheers mate.
Hi Steve, yeah, it was a really good finish, I don't think on this you need to change the position of the gun because having the new version now the pattern is the same regardless, due to the lower pressure I think and the different tip, didn't know that when I did the video but its a very good slow clear gun.
My editing screen is my phone so you're probably able to see more than me on a big screen, cheers mate 👍
Hello Pete. Well, I tried the ws400 this morning with the LS05 cap as well as the ws01 cap with the LPH400 nozzle and I'm sad to say it's not even close in performance to my trusty old LPH400. Pattern is much smaller and spray pattern isn't close to being as even. So I think I'm done trying to find a better gun that what I've been using for 15 years. The only gun I've yet to try is the devilfish GTI but, I have the DV1 with both clears caps and it isn't as good either in my opinion. It's a fantastic base coat gun but my Iwata LPH400 1.4 will remain my go to gun for clear. Again merry Christmas and a Happy New year. 🤙
Hi David, that's a shame but it was worth a try, hopefully, you'll recoup most of your money selling the cap.
Sounds like improving on what you have just isn't possible, as you say, maybe it's time to give up trying, have a good Christmas, hopefully, it is not too cold where you are, I know some of the Northern States are having it bad at the moment, cheers mate 👍
Hello Pete , how are you , i hope all is well with you and your family , I've wondered why it took you so long to try the LS400 with clear , I saw the Gunman use his Black Momba( Special edition LS400) quiet time time ago for clear and it looked to give excellent results so while I've really wanted to get the WS400 for a very long time now , and mostly due to monetary constraints, i tried the LS400 for clear and have also been more than happy with the results I only turn up the pressure slightly for the clears from the recommended 26 psi up to 28 psi just to help with the thicker clear versus base coat, but all in all I still want to get the WS400 but I'll just get the series 2 as the tip alignment is where is suppose to be , but I'll just keep the original LS400 as I find it does a nice job with base , loved the video , seeing your pattern test I might revisit the idea on my LS400 just to see again because its been a while I don't remember it being to bad at all , worth checking out to make sure. Cheers Mate
Hi Roger, yes, all is good here mate thank you.
I didn't see that video of The Gunman, I'll have to look it up, it was just a few people had contacted me and asked if i had tried it which i hadn't so that's how i got there, as you say, it's very good.
Now having the Series2 I wouldn't have bothered changing the angle of the tip, having used the 2 of them there doesn't seem any difference between them whereas the WS400 does benefit from the tip alignment.
Hope alls is well with you mate, cheers 👍
Hi Pete!
Thanks for another great video. Does LS lays base much better than WS base gun?
Also, in your opinion what’s the best Iwatas gun for base? LS,WS, WBX400?
Hi mate. I've never tried the WS400 base for clear but will do at some stage
The Iwata W400 WB2 is a very good base gun as is the LS400, they both use a lot of air though so bare that in mind, WBX is better for clear, it will do base but the other 2 are a bit better
Hey Pete, glad you put up another video on the meiji. Question. Do you think k the ls400 05 cap is a better cap for clear than the ws400 01? Been so busy painting for other people lately I haven't had time to do any testing.
Hi David, I haven't tried the LS400 cap with a WS400 tip yet but with a complete LS400 setup then it is certainly as good and better if you want more control as it's slower, it also uses a little less material, I've always used the LS400 for basecoat until a few people said I really need to try it for clear and it is very very good 👍
Hi Peter its a like from me hope your ok mate and well andy yes I like the series 2 the best built in gauge straight out of the box application pete mate I think i stick with my kiwami 4 1.3 heard nothing but great results and views on you tube the quality is outstanding just a,great gun 🔫 strange that gun like WS400 the the fluid cap is at a angle
Hi Andy, I was really surprised how good this was for clear considering it's a base gun.
I've got the Series2 as well and there's no real difference, yes the new one has a digital gauge if you want one but I prefer a regulator at the bottom, I find it easier although it's probably better for doing the sills on car as you have a short tail, hope your feeling ok mate 👍
Hello Pete. Do you think that version 1 is much better than version 2? Would it be an unnecessary expense?
Hi Mate, I think the version 2 is not really anything different to the version 1 so not worth changing the old one to a new one
Hi! I'm from Quebec Canada and I wanted to let you know I really appreciate your work, it's really helpfull ! I have a question for you, i'm looking for an Iwata ls400 Supernova and i'm wondering if with a 9.5 cfm i will be able to run it ? I work with a R500 AEROPRO and i have just enough cfm to run it. What do you think? Do you have any other suggestions ? Thanks in advance and best wishes for the new year to come ! :)
Hi Erick, Haven't been to Canada for years. Last time was a motorcycle trip over the other side from you in BC, through the Rockys. It was great fun 😀
Thank you for watching the videos, I genuinely enjoy making them mate 👍
Unfortunately, with the LS400, you are looking at the most air hungry gun there is, only being equalled by the Devilbiss Tekna Pro Lite with the HV30 cap and the Sata X5500 & 5000 HVLP guns, it needs around 16.5cfm at 1.8 bar and a high air flow rate, they are very good guns but not if your air supply is restricted.
The Anest Iwata Kiwami4 BA4J is around the same air consumption as the Aeropro R500, although you won't notice a big difference in performance, but it is a good all run gun.
I've a dedicated primer gun that I use for top coats too I was using as a base and lacquer aswell but looking to buy a dedicated base clear gun what would you recommend and am I best getting one for clear one for base I always thoroughly clean my guns cheers
Hi Buddy, what's your budget, and what's your air supply like ?
@@peteshobbies5383 budget 400 or so supply do you mean air
If air I use a 50L that's mobile around shop for smarts and 150 for bigger I've a w300 for smarts
@thecarpfather5757 Yes, air supply is important as it's pointless to recommend something that you can't supply with air
@thecarpfather5757 It's the output rather than the holding tank capacity, but given your budget I would think something like an Anest Iwata W400 Bellaria would be ideal, if you have a good air supply then take a look at the Porphis range of guns, they are very good and not expensive
Hi Pete, well that was a surprise I wasn't expecting the LS to lay clearcoat that well mate it looks really nice even though as you say it's the wrong colour us professional painters (cough!! cough!!😁) can see that the clear is really flat, you mentioned that the LS uses around 16CFM which is the same as the X5500 I'm assuming you mean the HVLP and not the RP as my RP is fairly good on air🤔
Had to laugh when you said about things being a bit stiff at your age mate, I'm older than you and at my age certain body parts are not stiff enough so looks like your doing ok mate🧐🙈😂
Thanks again for the message today Pete that was very kind of you to ask🙏🙏👍
Hi John, yes, very surprising, a few people had said to try it as they think I'll be impressed and I was, no need to hold it at an angle either as the old and new spray are the same, I thought they might as the pressure is lower and the tip air holes are smaller.
Yes, was thinking the HVLP re the Sata, should have mentioned that really , the LS is HVLP so comparable, think the RP is around 12.5, about the same as the WS iwata, it's very noticeable, the Devilbiss HV30 cap is another one that springs to mind in the 16 to 17 cfm range.
Thought I would message as I was getting Instagram tag withdrawal symptoms 🤣
Hey Pete, I saw your reply yesterday but being a senile old git I totally forgot to reply🙄 yeah the LS did a great job on the clear mate looked mint to me, have you tried it the other way round using the WS400 clear gun (not OBS) for base, knowing me you have and I've totally forgotten I've watched it, I'm thinking the WS would be a bit slow for base🤔
Primed another wing this morning but had a bit of a disaster, in fact it was a bit dangerous as the pipe from my belt reg that goes to my mask split when I was in the booth so I was getting three quarters clean air and the rest was paint fumes, like an idiot I kept painting as I had a mix on the go, I was holding the split in the pipe closed with one hand and using the paint gun in the other😱I ended up with a head ache and a saw throat so will never do that again it's not worth it😬🤦♂😂
Cheers Pete👍
EDIT: Meant to ask you how your new heater is going, hope it's a bit warmer for you🤞🤞👍
Hi John, The heater hasn't arrived yet, according to the tracking its at my local depot and has been since yesterday so I suspect they are using it to warm the place up 😂🤣
Yes, I have tried the WS400 Clear for base and it over atomises, puts it on dry and because its thinner than clear coat the fan splitting is worse, so you turn the pressure down and its better but not particularly good.
This was the way Iwata originally sent them out for base and clear, totally the same apart from base or clear written on then, then they bought out the OBS which was the same but smaller holes in the tip, that sorted it out so it you put a obs tip in a WS you have a complete OBS.
Hopefully you'll be fine in a day or so but you did exactly what I would do so don't feel too aggrieved, it's what we do but not always the the best
Mate I hate that when the tracking says it's in your local depot, I had one parcel that was about 2 miles from my house and it sat there for three days before they decided to deliver it, I was tempted to go and get it myself🤦♂😤
I often wonder if the series2 OBS tip set will fit in my gun but is it the same air cap, I did ask in the SPN FB group but got zero replies😭 I had a 1.4HD tip set arrive the other day for my WS so it will be interesting to see if it will be any better for the 6050, I hope it is as it cost me £160😱😂
I feel fine now but it wasn't a nice experience.
Be interesting to see if the 1.4 makes a difference with the Kapci, I suspect it will help.
Yes, I'm thinking the same re the new OBS, I think the cap will be the same as the WS but with different markings, manufacturers love doing that to make people feel they have got something different.
It's next on my shopping list so I'll let you know if I get one before you, not paying the full price so I'll wait for one to come up, cheers John 👍
Hey there Mr Pete, I am wondering...Which numbers and letters are stamped onto the fluid tip, and which aircap is it? I have one that has "ETS" stamped on it, but I've read that the one that has "ET" is a bigger pattern. Thanks
Hi buddy, I have the ET and ETS tips, this one was the ETS tip, the ETS tip is a slightly smaller pattern, in 1.3 it's around 12mm smaller, they both flow the same material so the ETS is a wetter pattern, there isn't much in it though to be honest
hi great video - is LS 400 & LS 400 Super nova the same ?
Hi Rahul, Yes, they are exactly the same gun. Cheers, buddy 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 pete pardon my ignorance i look at it that paint gun manufacturing companies have made a strategy to sell 2 guns each one for clear and one for base for the clients- average people like me in this profession have a strained investment- cant there be one universal gun thats good for base & works good on clear as well -
During my research before buying 2 of these guns i noticed the ls400 has a green or gold cap option ... can you explain the difference in the two or which one you think is better to control mottling on mettalics and pearls
Hi buddy, the gold cap is the same as the silver cap, but with a different tip, the green is HVLP cap but the same tip as the gold cap gun.
They are both excellent for base coats. If air supply isn't a problem, go with the LS400 green cap
@@peteshobbies5383 thnx
@peteshobbies5383 any recommendation on PSI RANGE
I tend to use the green cap around 22 to 23 psi and the gold around 26 psi
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Hello Pete,
Is this spray gun good for basecoat on motorcycle (Harley Davidson). I'm wondering about fluid pattern width is a little big.
Hi buddy, this LS400 is primarily a base coat gun , so yes, it would work well. The pattern is quite big and definitely an "I" shape pattern, so not particularly wide
Ls400 on your video is ET or ETS?
Hi buddy, this was the ETS tip 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 ET or ETS is better for base/ clear coat?
Pete I’m interested in the LS400 for base not sure if my compressor will keep up
Would like to get your input before I buy it
I have a 5HP 2 stage Quincy compressor rated at 15.2 scfm @ 175
Not sure what cfm at lower psi. I can’t get that info even from Quincy anyway I’m a new subscriber I really enjoy your videos keep them coming great work by the way.
Thank you from California 🤙🏼
Hi buddy, Oh, for some of that California sunshine here, grey and wet at the moment🙄
Sounds to me like it would cover it if it's just powering the gun, of course it depends on what you have to do, a full car would obviously really test it but 3 or 4 panels I think you would be fine.
You haven't mentioned the storage tank size as long as it's over 25 gallons it should be ok. Appreciate the sub 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 it’s been raining lately so no sunshine for now. My compressor is 60 gallon and I’m painting whole car in sections don’t have the room to paint the whole car at ones. What other spray gun would you
Recommend? I really like this LS400 for base I see the LS400 requires more air than the WS400
Thank you Pete.
The LS400 is an excellent base gun, I only tried it for a clear coat as a few people recommend it. The WS400 isn't the fastest for clear, and the LS400 is slower but very good.
Your compressor will keep up with no problem. Start with a full tank, and you will be fine , I can't think of anything I would recommend over the LS400. The Devilbiss DV1 Base is very good, but no better than the LS
@@peteshobbies5383 I’ll give it a go! Thank you for your time Pete 👍🏼
You're welcome mate, let me know how you get on 👍
I think what you have there is the LPH400. I received the Ls400-05 cap and can't wait to see how it sprays clear on my WS with the lph400 1.4 tip and this cap. Merry Christmas Pete and I'll be in touch once I try it
Merry Christmas David, you could be right, one thing I need to try is the W400 WBX cap with the LS400 tip, from what people tell me I will have the equivalent of an LPH400 with the LVX orange cap.
Look forward to hearing what you think of the new setup, cheers David 🍻
@@peteshobbies5383 hey, I've got one. That will be next
Hey Pete. Sure seems strange to me when you spend 500 us on a gun you have to spray at an angle .
Did you have a chance to compare air holes in the ws400 clear coat nozzles? Thanks
Hi David, I just sent a message regarding the nozzle so I did remember, didn't get a chance yesterday and by the time I got home it was -5c out in the workshop so gave it a miss😂.
I was just experimenting here really, I shot this video about 4 months ago in summer, oh how nice that would be to have those temperatures again now! , at the time i didn't have the new LS400 Series 2 and was trying it at an angle to mimic the new gun, I didn't need to bother as the new and old spray the same regardless.
What was interesting was how well this base gun laid clear coat, rather slow but very flat, I wouldn't have tried it but a few people had said that these guns are good for clear, so that's how i got there, no angle needed 😉 👍
Hi Pete, I might have missed it. But what air cap does this gun have on it ? Thanks
My version 1 if you run it on full fan it would break apart and you would half to turn the fan in a turn and a half they claim series 2 you can run on full fan .I would like know if that's true.
Hi Tom, are you talking about the LS400 or the WS400? , if it's the LS400 what pressure are you running it at? , is it waterbourn or solvent you are using?
I use my ls400 at 20-26 psi depending on the color with solvent base coat. I absolutely love it. I’ve never had to turn my fan in. Nice full fan.
Hi, LS 400 entech et 1.2, is good for clear?
Hi, yes, you can use it for clear, it's just a little slower than the 1.3 in this video
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks
@@deacdaniel6425 Your welcome
Hi Pete how are you heating your products
Hi Jose, these days I use a microwave which works very well, I'm sure it's not recommended but it's what I do, around 10 seconds per 100ml , a bit less if the weather is warmer
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This might be a duplicate question, but is the cap an 01, 02, or 05 ? Thanks
Hi David, the LS400 has the 05 cap which is the HVLP cap, as far as i remember the Series2 LS400 has the 06 cap, 01 is the original WS400 and 02 is the Series2 WS400. I don't know what the Series2 OBS gun has as i haven't got one yet but will do in the new year.
Having said that, the new and old cap from each model look the same except the bezel on the outside which has a different thread
@@peteshobbies5383 good to know. I think I'll buy that cap and try to convert my ws to an ls. Couldn't be anything more than the cap.
@david ray The tip is different as well, it has smaller holes
Have a look at the start of this video, it's shows the differences between them.
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@@peteshobbies5383 i have a base tip, but I'd like to try a clear tip with the 05 cap and see what happens
Is 1.5 too much for base?
Hi Jeremy, do you mean 1.5 bar?
@@peteshobbies5383 1.5 fluid tip for the ls400
It would depend on the basecoat and conditions and speed the painter wanted to go at, but you should be able to make it work.
None of these put out loads of material, so it should be ok.
I've only used the LS400 in 1.2 and 1.3, which seems to do what I want
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Thanks buddy, hope you're well 👍