💥KAREN READ MISTRIAL DECLARED💥with Mark Bederow, Esq. 7/1/24 Afternoon 💥Jury is hung💥
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The only thing this verdict proves is that someone doesn't truly understand the definition of "reasonable doubt." RIP America.
The sad thing, is that in MA it’s not beyond reasonable doubt. It’s beyond a moral certainty, which is higher than reasonable doubt!
@@stellaallbright4750 or science!
In as much as I feel for John O’Keefe’s family, I will never you are waiver from the fact that the FBI third-party accident reconstructionist determined that there was no pedestrian/automobile incident
Wonder if the corrupt band of criminals who killed John paid off a juror.
I don't feel sorry for them at all. They would rather hang on that blue line than listen to the truth.
@@sandwichpaddington2843 I put so much weight on Dr Wolfes testimony. I already thought Karen was guilty but he solidified it.
@@cm1642 I sadly agree. JOK mother seems to have an unreasoned dislike of KR. POK also had DUI where someone was crippled, and acts in a bullying and intimidatory manner towards KR. He wants to be someone? Aligning with Alberts. I am disgusted. KR - a stunning individual - real grace under pressure - my heart goes out to her. As a guy, I don't think I would have survived all she has endured (medical and judicial).
I felt for Mrs O’Keefe to
That was until the last two weeks
When she really came across not as a grieving mother wanting justice for her son
But rather verging on the side of vindictiveness and spiteful
Jury is further proof people allow emotions to guide their decisions rather than logic and facts. It’s a sad time we live in
You said it perfectly, some obviously let their emotions & feelings defy logic, physics, and science.
The chose to just ignore the last 3 witnesses.
It's disturbing, especially when you think about people who have found themselves in a situation legally who didn't have the floodlight that was shining in this case, or the means to hire top notch attorneys as Karen did.
My guess is they're sitting in jail.
I wonder if some jurors felt that the weeks of prosecution witnesses meant there was a lot of evidence and that the defence presented little, that is, the jurors depended on impressions rather than analysis. Distressed - no untainted evidence. Clearly, as many people say I think KR factually innocent.
She self reported first day. I believe her. Guilty manslaughter. All day. Her Dad and dui lawyer. If she never returned to scene, like many guilty do, she would have got away with it. All day and they know.
@@tenderstepsPaul I thought about that too. Did the guilty voter(s) decide based on quantity over quality?
Now that Proctor has been fired what’s next? Blackmail and another accidental death?
Mr Reed thanks the court reporter before he leaves...a total class act!
And then Paul O’Keefe told her he wasn’t “Done with her” within earshot of cameras. I know he’s upset, but come on man
Yep in contrast to the O'Keefes.
@@FancyRPGCanada Well, if he actually thinks that after sitting through the trial, he's of the same cognitive level as the rest of the police and their families.
@@FancyRPGCanada😮I heard he said this… he is hanging with the turkeys apparently, Karen is Soaring with the eagles ❤
@@FancyRPGCanada🤬🤬🤬
I can't understand a mistrial. With the expert witness testimonies that said it wasn't a car accident and that a dog attack was cause of arm injuries.
Once, the jurists who thought she was guilty looks into this case, they will be kicking them selves!
Are you kidding? They were in the room!
We now know there are biased jurors on the panel who decided she was guilty before the trial ever got started.
I don’t know how anyone could still think KR is guilty when an independent third party has said it’s impossible for KR to have backed into anyone.
Agreed. And if they were honest - I do hope they kick themselves.
@@cm1642yeah but once they see the fed case and all the things they were meant to be uninformed of? I think it will change their minds
I'm not to sure..I have a feeling that the 1..and I believe it will be just 1..is an ignoramus
Now let’s see what the feds found and they tell the world!
I wouldn't trust auntie Bev for a bench trial!!
@@wendyd_darling oh, no no no
Ooommmggg Nooooooo 😳🤯
Oh my gosh no
I wouldn't trust AUNTIE TO TAKE MY ORDER AT McDonald's 😅
@@wendyd_darling I wouldn't trust Bevvie to do anything that requires analysis. She just rules without any oral argument or reasoning. It's so obvious she's out of her league when it comes to Yanetti and Jackson..
What trial did this jury sit in??? WTF!!! How blind and deaf were they??? Or was there intimidation? MacRachets?
I've heard the reporters in court saying it's often hard to hear because of the AC/fans and jury has only one screen too small for how far away it is to look at. They literally may not see or hear as well as we can... Sure they have all the evidence to look at in the end, but it's not as effective as seeing it clearly in real time.
I blame Massachusetts. Like Melanie said in one of her videos ... they allow ury to take notes, but also mention to them "it's hard to take notes and pay attention." They don't offer transcripts, nor read backs of testimony. That's a mess! With days of testimony, and so many people on the stand, how the heck do you not miss something? I'm a member of a Facebook page for this case, an all opinions welcome page so it's not one sided ... and you'd be surprised how many people argue their opinion ... and they quote things that were never said. Like: "Karen admitted she hit something on the lawn!: Um "on the lawn?" That was never said. Or they say thing like "The medical examiner said he was hit by a car." Um, no. The medical examiner said that John died of blunt force trauma and hypothermia, but the manner of death is undetermined.
Massachusetts needs to get with the times ... we need transcripts. I bet if the jury could have gotten certain transcripts to review, this wouldn't be a hung jury.
Karen reads dad thanking the court reporter and court lady at the end 🫶🏽 he’s such a nice guy that family 🫶🏽
Wait til these jurors hear everything they don't know, weren't allowed to hear.
Here are two things the jury didn't hear that they should have:
The federal government spent tons of money, time, and resources. They got Grand Jury testimony from Brian Albert, Brian Higgins, Trooper Proctor and who knows how many other people. They got phone records and text messages. They likely conducted wire taps of individuals we know of and don't know of. They investigated a lot of people that were NOT Karen Read. The Grand Jury is over. How do we know? Because the DOJ has NO Obligation and would not have released that 3,000 page report if the grand jury was still standing. The grand jury would have had to issue indictments BEFORE ending. They did not. The US Attorney's Office is on the record stating that Brian Albert and Brian Higgins are not targets of their investigation. All of this is extremely likely to have influenced the jury to believe Karen did it. Why can't the lawyers mention the federal public corruption investigation to the jury? It would be too prejudicial AGAINST Karen Read.
We did not hear from Karen's brother who is seen on video brushing snow off her SUV EXCEPT for Passenger tail light. Why didn't the Defense put him on the stand to testify that the tail light was not in the same condition as sally port photo? He would have been the BEST Defense witness with direct knowledge of evidence. Instead, they called individuals that had no direct knowledge and only testified with expert opinion.
These two things, not heard by jury would likely prove her guilt.
Sources now say the jury split was 10 guilty 2 not guilty. I won't believe anything not confirmed, but the DA immediately saying they are going to re-try shows they are confident. Also, the judge and lawyers do know the jury split. Also, the lawyers were seeing the jurors eyes and ONLY the Defense wanted a mistrial declared early.
I'm confused how the O'Keefe family thinks Karen is responsible. I also think it was disgusting that the people responsible for John's death had the nerve to sit behind the family during closing.
Karen needs to get an injunction on Paul for his threats and harassment
Can’t understand why Paul doesn’t want to find the real killers of his brother. They are out there.
It was so gross what he said to her today
@@FancyRPGCanadajust catching up here. What did Paul say to Karen?!
Not to mention KR bailed his ass (Paul Okeefe) out of jail when he hit and paralyzed a man while drunk … he’s on probation right now
@@Christynmaine he told her he wasn’t done with her
Lally posturing “They will retry”!!
Get outta here Lally…😰.
My sense of that is Lally has to get Karen on something because if she is innocent (as she is) it means John OKeefe (or as they refer to him, “the guy”) was indeed killed in that house and dumped on the lawn.
He is living la Vida loca
Isn’t it time they investigated properly and arrested and charged the right culprits
i just don't understand how anyone could be sure beyond a reasonable doubt when all the cw provided was reasonable doubt
Corruption
What the heck is wrong with that family? They should be grateful the wrong person wasn't wrongfully convicted and PERHAPS John's real killer/s will be found.
If Paul did say to Karen " I'm not done with you yet " , it's not a stretch to conclude that Karen Read's life is in considerable danger.
That is a threat. If ppl heard that, and she wants to press charges, she could
Paul Okeefe should never forget that Karen bailed his ass outta jail when he (Paul) paralyzed a man while drunk
@@BoiseGreatDaneGreat point. I feel for John’s mom and dad, but not for a drunk driver who paralyzed a citizen. Awful human being.
@@vincedidiana5781 I don't feel for John's mom at all!! She was sitting there laughing at the texts about Karen. Despicable!!
@@Alison1973she wants her in jail!
Paul okeefe had ‘issue’ before Karen read
Karen needs to put a protective order against Paul. Seriously!!
I’m so disappointed in him. He actually DID hit someone at 24 mph and paralyzed them!!!! And KR BAILED HIM OUT!!! I mean…!!!😮
They are all alcoholics, the entire bunch.
@@cristipratt2844 💯
@@melissaowens6031 Ungrateful little tool!
Don't tell me someone is that ignorant to think if a person was struck by an auto at approx. 24 mph there would be no bruising and broken bones? We are not made of rubber, if a vehicle no matter the size strikes someone at that speed they will have broken something and of course bruising from the initial impact and then when they strike the ground also. Everyone at some point in their life has banged into something and suffered a bruise, you don't have to be a doctor to realize that.
Just that alone is enough doubt, not to mention all the other improper police work, etc. To me that indicates someone on that jury had it in for Karen regardless of the mountain of doubt and scientific proof that she did not hit him with her vehicle. Absolutely disgracefull.
Just ask Paul Okeefe he knows he’s on probation for owi paralyzing a man at 25mph … and Karen bailed his ass out of jail
@@BoiseGreatDane really?
@@lashaun333and Karen paid his bail, and believing Sean he didn’t payed it back
@@Lisboooa the nerve of him
@@lashaun333 yes. Paul O'Keefe got an OUI (DUI) after leaving a country club one late afternoon drunk and hitting a person. He was going about the same speed that Karen was going so he knows the quality and extent of injures that occur. Anyway Karen bailed him out. Can you imagine the irony?
I think it was horrible that Paul sat perpendicular to Karen throughout the trial. He was staring at her for over 8 weeks. Probably dreamt about her.
Wow isn't that stalking and inappropriate behaviour.. in the UK we have a big poster on the train saying staring is sexual harassment please report it etc.. despite the circumstances he should not be allowed to do that
@@patriot4life262It was disgusting!
@@JASuperflex1are there really? I don't take public transport so never seen such a thing. Is that on the Tube in London or just regular trains?
Harassment intimidation and absolutely wrong
Juror #3, alternate juror just spoke out to CBS Boston 25 and said she did not think the CW proved their case. She said on the record that she would have been a Not Guilty
Did she say what the count was?
@@Cindeelouhoo she didn’t get to deliberate since she was one of the alternates
@@user-ki2yt6mc4p Oh duh, I missed that part 🤦🏼♀️
Bummed it wasn't 12 NG, but thankful she isn't going to prison ❤
So happy for Karen, but still want the culprits and justice for John
Agreed
Petition to DA NEEDS TO HAPPEN (written and headed up by Norfolk County Constituents) - once a million signatures- publish to media . Who in Norfolk Cty can head this up? I will help!
What is troubling to me is this is even a hung jury at all, and I have serious doubts if this system even works. What I saw was shoddy/biased policework, sloppy investigations, incoherent and poorly qualified experts by the prosecutors. Plenty of counter evidence from the defense; better, more qualified and believable experts, conflicting timelines of events. What more did this jury want? What would it have taken to get a guilty verdict? It's as though the standard for reasonable doubt has been elevated to unrealistic levels. Maybe we need to be looking at a jury of experts, not peers. People see what they want to see and disregard the rest, no matter how damning the evidence. I believe that is what happened here. People dug in on both sides. There is no reason for it to be this lopsided.
I just have to say that I am very thankful that any jury was able to stand on their own principles in regards to the actual evidence and firm in their belief that there was no proof that Karen Read caused John O’Keefe‘s death. My heart feels for his family, however, I would much rather there be a mistrial, then an innocent person going to prison for potentially the rest of their lives
This really makes me lose faith in the jury system.
20:47 Paul threatens Karen there, he tells her he's not done with her yet. His wife snaps at him and tells him to stop it.
He is such a CREEP
How do you know what he said?
He may have been talking to the security guard/officer. Not sure
Good on the wife at least
Uggghhh. What is WRONG with that guy?
there is so much in this case that is indicative of corruption. I understand that the jury is only allowed to debate on the actual evidence that is submitted. I only hope that those jurors that were in question. Go back and dig in to this case and find out, out of the ordinary this investigation was
Texas here and Not Guilty. Period. Thank you for your coverage on law and this case! Prayers for OJO and justice for Karen Read. #FKR
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You just gotta love Mark Bederow ♥️
There should be charges brought against Brian Albert and Higgins for destroying their phones and against whoever tipped them off that a court order was being served the next day. Great witnesses for a future trial. Proctor should be fired , at the very least. Horrible witness for any future trial, including Brian Walshe’s.
They had to have inside knowledge to get rid of their phones prior to being issued a do not destroy order by the court. They are Crooks
Canton Police will drive by the home and find more evidence.
Lmao 😂
Just seen a post confirming Paul okeefe said "I'm not done with you yet" to karen smfh . So wrong and disgraceful get over it bud she is innocent and if you can't see that after all these weeks your insane 👏🏼💯🤬
A grave injustice - FKR
Scarey to THINK OF what the outcome would be by this Shit show of a DA IF A person did NOT have a SKILLED Defense team such as this!!
Scary!!!
Or the help of the FBI
I suspect that most people of Canton are intimidated by PhD’s, ME’s and Federal investigators with Professionalism
It is terrifying. That’s what’s so upsetting about this.
If they weren’t “bought” and were afraid of the corrupt LE they could’ve excused themselves from the jury duty and they did not.
I can’t believe they are so dumb so I’m very suspicious
What happened to John okeefe was hidden by the prosecutor
I truly feel that the FBI can dump more disclosure to both sides. I hope that it encourages the Commonwealth to concede that maybe we shouldn’t really try her again. We will see
The Read’s have so much class.
They sure do compared to trashy Paul and Peggy!
The DA wanted this. They will never retry. Hung jury has the widest off ramp politically for Morrisey and protects the McAs.
Paul O’Keefe leaned over to Karen and said “I’m not done with you yet!”!!!! That sounds like a threat! 😢 everyone was asking what Paul said to Karen. The words came from Microdots.
What time was that?
20:26 so bad
Shows the true colors of that clan.. same cloth as the rest of them. Why did the court not keep those thugs distant from KR and the defense?
Thank you Melanie and thank you Mark. You have been amazing. I hipe some day John’s family see what the majority of us see. She didn’t do it. Rest in peace John. I’m so sorry your “friends” did this to you. Help your family realise that 🇮🇪☘️
honestly, my heart hurts for the O’Keefe family Because their pain will never go away regardless of any verdict. The thing that bothers me most is thatthe O’Keefe family has been love bombed by the prosecution and not made aware of all of the contradictory evidence
Maybe, but they still watched the same trial we did. If I was them, I'd be absolutely furious with everyone involved in botching the investigation
@@sandwichpaddington2843 especially since their other son died of a heart attack and their daughter-in-law from cancer too. I feel so bad for them.
Ya I don’t have any more sympathy for the OKeefes. They watched the same trial we all did plus they seen all the evidence that wasn’t shown to the jury. They just want someone to be guilty so they do t have to think about it anymore. Ignorant.
@@echothegoodwolftheir daughter died from cancer and son in law from heart.
@@QueenofKings-mh7zn oh okay.
I would be so curious about numbers by state in this case. Number of people that watched the trial beginning to end, what state they live in and how they would vote. Then have them watch all the hearings.
The with that said, I am convinced this was a tainted jury.
I’m in CO and am one to keep an open mind in watching trials all the way to the end. In this case, when I saw the Leaf Blower and Red Solo Cups being used as “Evidence Collection” and listening to their excuse as to why they didn’t go to the office that was just minutes away….yet one drove a similar distance to get the Leaf Blower….Zero sense could be made of that. Then claiming they didn’t have the supplies at the Police Station?! How about calling Crime Scene Investigators as is normally done? Oh wait, forgot for a second there that the whole point was to avoid standard operating procedure!
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If this is re-tried please FTLOG assign a different judge. Preferably one who is not tired, crabby, intimidated by the defense, or friends with the McAlberts.
Innocent IS innocent!
They rehomed proctor like the dog. They used to do that too with priests here in Ireland and all that meant was they could cause serious damage somewhere else. Now proctor is gone it’s like admitting liability
Flat Earthers everywhere. Now way this gets retried. I'd be surprised if Proctor is employed at the end of the day.
Hahahaha Proctor was just let go
She's still in Jeopardy and she's still not free this feels terrible and I think that they are absolutely ridiculous to come to this... but I think the DA or the Commonwealth tried her once & will again because of their egos. IMO, these charges shouldn't have been bought to begin with... SAD Day! Prayer's for all.🌹🥀
WHEN SOMEONE THAT INTELLIGENT WRITES THOSE NOTES AND HE CANT EXPLAIN RESONABLE DOUBT THEN THAT IS JURY NULLIFICATION OR THE FIX WAS IN
Can the FBI step in now?
My heart is pounding!!! Stay strong Karen we love and support you
Can the world handle six more weeks of what if anys
Allegedly Paul O'keefe told Karen he wasn't done with her yet as he passed her leaving the court room? Did anyone else hear that also? Wow a miss trial.. Praying that Karen can now try to gain some closure her own grief, although she still has a little bit to go now! 🙏🏼🇺🇸💗 I lost my son just 3 and a half years ago now, I do feel for John's parents, and family, although I am very saddened that they can not see what we all do, the evidence of all those who lied, got rid of evidence, and can not see this cover-up.. The truth can not stay hidden.. Just a matter of time! ⏳⏱️⚖️⏱⌛⚖️
It is the worst pain I have ever experienced losing my son, my first born child..💔 I would stop at Nothing to want to bring those responsible to Justice!! Praying that John's family will choose to look into those who are Responsible for John's death, the actual evidence, it is chilling that they are walking around free..😱 RIP John 💙🙏🏼💙🇺🇸 ⚖️
The killers are being embraced by the O'Keefe family. That's the hard truth.
Sending you a sincere hug with much love. Saying a prayer for your family and his soul
Thank you so much.. It comes in waves, the pain is always there, but we share such am Amazing spiritual connection/bond. As well my daughter my sons little sister too shared such an incredible bond and now spiritual bond as well... She is non verbal, but she uses her signs and sounds she would use to get his attention when thinking about him, and he would sound back .. 💝
i am so sorry for your loss
@Capebutterfly 💔
Thank you Melanie! ❤ I have been following your channel for some time now, taking interest into wanting to see that Justice prevail like many others. Although this tragedy has brought so much negativity, it has also helped bring to the surface the horrible side of corruption..
I have always Believed that even through the worst unimaginable situations, people are brought together for a reason! And even through the darkest of life changing tragedies those whom have been touched by tragedy, often it can bring so much positive attention to bring folks together, to raise positive Awareness and seek the truth and Justice! Heartbreaking beyond words that John lost his life so brutally, yet due to this tragedy it has opened a massive hole into the corruption that many are unaware of. I believe once the individuals who are responsible and are brought to Justice, that John will finally be able to rest.. 🙏🏼💙 Praying that it will also help open the door to also seek the Truth behind other cases, as well begin the process to remove corrupt individuals throughout. I pray for closure for John's parents and family.. ⚖️🙏🏼
I pray that Karen can also one day find peace, happiness and tranquility once this has come to an end, although I am sure it will continue to sadly haunt her, she certainly is one Amazing Strong woman.. 💪🏼🙌🏼💗 Like a few of her supporters stated, "We could all be Karen, it could be any one of Us" it isn't just about one individual, it is about the principal, getting the Truth Out, Stand Up, Speak Up! I too Believe in this, as many of us have the will, the Strength that we often can not see till something beyond horrific forces us with no other way than to go into survival mode.. I have had to overcome many obstacles in my life time, it has only made me Stronger. We all have fought battles that no one knows about, it is about getting back UP, standing our ground, never allowing anyone to put doubt within our minds, or allowing anyone to walk all over us.. Be the Change you want to See in the World!! 💪🏼🙌🏼💪🏼
Even for the hundreds of thousands of folks who didn't know Karen or John, it certainly has touched so many, watching the evidence unfold, it became clear as day that it "IS" a cover-up, leaving a chill through your soul hearing the horrible way these folks spoke about not only another human being, but knowingly as an "INNOCENT" persons life hangs in the balance, pur Evil! Especially those who you are supposed to be able to entrust, why would anyone think any thing other, till the truth comes to the surface! The so called professionals that we see everyday, weather law enforcement, court employees, or even those who we thought were friends, acquaintances, even family, corruption does not discriminate.. I will add that I have known, and know so many individuals in law enforcement that actually take their jobs seriously, and they do not believe that Karen is guilty.. They are sickened by those whose actions are beyond horrific!! Just a matter of Time.. ⚖️⏳
I have also been following the Sandra Birchmore case, so heartbreaking, horrific beyond words.. 💔🙏🏼😢 Praying that the investigation can now continue to move forward, it has been said that there is also a huge cover-up with the case, with Specific individuals that have also been involved through Karen's case..
Thank you Melanie for keeping us updated, bringing us along this journey, for your knowledgeable expert input as well! Love how you have maintained your feeds so eloquently, allowing many to feel safe, and speak their minds in a positive way, raising Awareness is just the beginning!! 🙌🏼💖👌🏼🇺🇸🙏🏼
You know what pisses me off more than anything..How many people in these youtube broadcasts have tried like hell to get out of jury duty? This jury is proof that the jury pool is so screwed up because so many people with common sense get out of jury duty!!! It's not "fun" and not every case will be this satisfying but our judicial system is a mess and we should try like hell to change it.
I agree. I always encourage jury duty!
If the CW does retry, I hope the defense is on Lally like a fly on 💩 and not let him get away with all the leading questions. Something needs to happen.
The problem was the bias of the judge. I think the defence lawyers worked as well as they could given the judge's conduct. I am sure they had to approach the case with a view to working the boundaries set by the judge. Still, I enjoyed Alan Jackson's justifiably and barely suppressed contempt for her at times.
Breaking news! Proctor was UnHomed! Going to make retrial even messier.
Thank you Melanie and Mark!
20:00 You know Bev is ok with that because she does not like AJ.
Stacked jury that’s why the McAlberts were there for for closing to intimidate
Can the defense call Trooper Paul if the Commonwealth don't? And make him repeat all of the stuff that he's already said which was so ridiculous it was laughable
I believe even if the Commonwealth thinks it will get always mistrial as many times as allowed by law or lose, they will continue to Prosecute Karen Reed to ’stick it’ to her financially, emotionally and healthily.
Paul told her that “ he was not done with her.”
I am not sure how an arrest warrant was even issued without sufficient evidence never might a trial
I’m surprised they even know what an arrest warrant IS and how to even fill it out😂
@melissaowens6031 -- They'd likely use crayons if they weren't too busy eating them.
You don’t need a warrant to arrest someone, all you need is probable cause and with that said, they still didn’t have it !
The power of the McAlberts
We ain’t got no quite!
And do not let her rule over a bench trial omg! 😱
Just the thought that all of the 12 will be online & see all that was said for 8 wks - likely will change their perspectives ..
Karen left 34 Fairview Rd 12:30 latest. This is also the latest time for 2nd Trigger Event. The 1st Trigger Event which is the 3 point turn on Cedarcrest Rd, between Fairview and Snowflake Ln was 8 minutes earlier @ 12:22. This is also when they say John's phone was asending/descending 3 flights at 138 Dedham St.
I came into this as a juror, no outside information. I fully believe Karen didn't do it!
I still feel bad for John's parents! They will never see justice most likely. Paul is childish by telling Karen he's not done with her yet. 🤬
I am at a loss for words that the O’Keefe’s believe Karen is guilty…come on - please open your eyes. We want justice for Officer O’Keefe, we need to charge the real culprits. Justice for John O’Keefe and Free Karen Read
Mark Bederow is brilliant. He caught on to the fact that they didn't say if the jury acquitted on any charges. The man is so impressive!
Bevs fault
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She deliberately did not complete her jury instructions properly - confusing and misdirecting. I agree.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for covering this trial. Thank you, also, to your family who must have had to sacrifice time with you during all of this. Thanks to Mark for appearing, time and again, on various channels, to cover this case
I wonder after the jurors see all the BS that was going on during this trial🤷🏼♀️😂😂if they wish they would have changed their minds!!!! Justice for John, Karen & TB 🙌🏼❤️
I have a hard time believing all 12 jurors successfully were able to not be exposed to the public reporting of the case or never spoke about the case to their husband or wife or whomever they go home to at the end of each day. But this is clearly speculating so I'm trying very hard to believe they were able to follow the instructions given by the judge throughout the trial.
Supposedly he said that he’s not done with her
Transcripts released in the MA vs. Read trial:
"Peasants: We have found a witch!
(A witch! a witch!)
Burn her burn her!
Peasant 1: We have found a witch, may we burn her?
(cheers)
Vladimir: How do you know she is a witch?
P2: She looks like one!
V: Bring her forward
Woman: I'm not a witch! I'm not a witch!
V: ehh... but you are dressed like one.
W: They dressed me up like this!
All: naah no we didn't... no.
W: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.
(V lifts up carrot)
V: Well?
P1: Well we did do the nose
V: The nose?
P1: ...And the hat, but she is a witch!
(all: yeah, burn her burn her!)
V: Did you dress her up like this?
P1: No! (no no... no) Yes. (yes yeah) a bit (a bit bit a bit) But she has got a wart!
(P3 points at wart)
V: What makes you think she is a witch?
P2: Well, she turned me into a newt!
V: A newt?!
(P2 pause & look around)
P2: I got better.
(pause)
P3: Burn her anyway! (burn her burn her burn!)
(king walks in)
V: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
P1: Are there? Well then tell us! (tell us)
V: Tell me... what do you do with witches?
P3: Burn'em! Burn them up! (burn burn burn)
V: What do you burn apart from witches?
P1: More witches! (P2 nudge P1)
(pause)
P3: Wood!
V: So, why do witches burn?
(long pause)
P2: Cuz they're made of... wood?
V: Gooood.
(crowd congratulates P2)
V: So, how do we tell if she is made of wood?
P1: Build a bridge out of her!
V: Ahh, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
P1: Oh yeah...
V: Does wood sink in water?
P1: No
P3: No. It floats!
P1: Let's throw her into the bog! (yeah yeah ya!)
V: What also floats in water?
P1: Bread
P3: Apples
P2: Very small rocks
(V looks annoyed)
P1: Cider
P3: Grape gravy
P1: Cherries
P3: Mud
King: A Duck!
(all look and stare at king)
V: Exactly! So, logically...
P1(thinking): If she weighs the same as a duck... she's made of wood!
V: And therefore,
(pause & think)
P3: A witch!
(P1: a witch)
(P2: a witch)
(all: a witch!)
V: We shall use my largest scales.
(V jumps down)
(walk over while cheering)
(push her into scale)
V: Right, remove the stops!
(wait while scales remains still)
All: A witch! burn her burn her!!"
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Couldn’t have said it better myself 😂😂
🎉you all are so great job 👏 thanks win for karen 😊😊😊😊
MORE BUSINESSES NEED TO SAY NO COP KILLERS ALLOWED AND BAN TOGETHER
Thank you so much Mark and Melanie. You make the confusion much more tolerable.
So where is Procter and McAlberts today! Cowards
They only came to intemperate the jury. Cowards not showing up today. Shame!
I’m so glad Mr read thanked the court reporter … someone needed to I bet Bev won’t
The DA would be a fool to let Aiden on that stand...and I think he would take it.
Awesome coverage Melanie! I think a mistrial in this corrupt county is a huge win. I’d like to know the chain of custody of the jurors’ notebooks. The dismissal of a juror and the 2 alternates / chosen Foreman situation....leaves me with questions regarding the chain of custody and security of those notebooks. You and Mark make an excellent team! Hope you and your family enjoy a great July 4th holiday! I know Karen and her family will enjoy a well-deserved , restful holiday! ❤️💙
Unless I missed it, Bev didn’t read the note to the lawyers before bringing the jury in! 😑
She never asked if they were hung on ALL charges. I guess “this is how we do it in Massachusetts!” 🤯
Now I like AJ even more!!! He’s from Texas !
Damn I wish NY had live streaming I’d love to see you in action @mark
I’m just soooo disappointed with court tv right now
I wonder if they did Not realize the defense witnesses were from FBI. I'm so frustrated!!
They knew that the ARCCA people were referred by the FBI.
Then I really don't understand how they could overcome reasonable doubt. This sounds like someone didn't like her and chose to ignore everything else
@meghanmillea6840 -- AGREED! 🎯
Wait, the jury or the prosecution? The jury was not informed where they came from, just another agency.
Jury
M&M in the chat. Tell your agent that you two are the 🔥 TICKET!! 🔥 You two need your own TV show. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Proctor is transferred out of da's office!! Another ia investigation...
If/ when there’s a retrial I hope they pick a better courtroom, yeesh
33:49 yes I saw that Paul looked towards Karen with a very intimidating look
IF THE MANY TIMELINES DONT FIT, YOU MUST ACQUIT!!!!!!!!!!
If the Judge didn't ask them what the split was in numbers, how can she schedule a hearing, what if it's 11 to 1, not guilty??
Both sides will probably ask the jury themselves. My guess is at least one juror from each side will talk to them.
It’s probably very obvious…
2:27: "hos long to die from cold"
They don’t want to drop the murder charge because they want to be able to add all the character evidence etc in. The only thing they have really is that
I love your patience and passion for these questions. We the people have so many too.
DA announced they will retry the case
Paul's probably mad because now he has the full responsibility of those kids much more on his plate they weren't even willing to help whenever John was around