Evidence found that man was not the first being to master fire

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • A momentous discovery in South Africa has the potential to turn our understanding of human history on its head. CBS News correspondent Debora Patta speaks with paleoanthologist Lee Berger, who has found evidence that a pre-human ancestor named Homo naledi may was the first being to master fire for light, warmth and cooking.
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  • @ashleydaniel3215
    @ashleydaniel3215 Před rokem +2287

    "All this time we've been looking down, instead of looking up"
    Sums up the human condition accurately

    • @GravInducedSleepTrac
      @GravInducedSleepTrac Před rokem +29

      And the movie!(don't look up "

    • @freedomofspeech361
      @freedomofspeech361 Před měsícem +21

      Most people are legends in their own mind.

    • @stevenepstein6454
      @stevenepstein6454 Před měsícem +4

      Yep. Except, it's not a black ceiling, keep looking.

    • @Lion_Hamza
      @Lion_Hamza Před měsícem +2

      ​@@stevenepstein6454Lol i did not see it either. Are we blind?

    • @SimonBoccanegra69
      @SimonBoccanegra69 Před měsícem +5

      I know it sounded deep in your mind when you wrote it, but it's really *not.*

  • @joelallgaier2626
    @joelallgaier2626 Před rokem +2705

    Our hubris is amazing, from dismissing our predecessors abilities, to think that we're the only ones. It's been a long journey to get here, we are standing on the shoulders of our ancestors.

    • @gm9984
      @gm9984 Před rokem +50

      I love reading and watching about the origins of fascinating things like fire, mirrors, religions, languages, medical/science advancements, etc. Standing on the shoulders of our ancestors indeed

    • @gwiz6278
      @gwiz6278 Před rokem +75

      It's called science and when we find new evidence, we alter our thesis.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před rokem +36

      It's not about hubris it's about verified evidence.

    • @youropionmattersnot
      @youropionmattersnot Před rokem

      Agreed. Funny how man always tries to "modern humanize" how ancient civilizations did things. It's even projected upon the extraterrestrial. As if the pyramids were built with slaves, hand chisels, block and tackle because we found no evidence of cranes and dump trucks because that's what we would use.....

    • @mrmagoo.3678
      @mrmagoo.3678 Před rokem +52

      religions have caused us great harm in that respect.

  • @scdrescher1
    @scdrescher1 Před měsícem +93

    In their defense, looking up when you’re caving isn’t always easy or intuitive. When you’re moving on all fours the helmet tends to get in the way. But that’s absolutely a profound realization that they’d not thought to look up.

  • @ZoeyZee
    @ZoeyZee Před měsícem +372

    Man this was a year ago?! So glad I found this. So interesting! Thanks for sharing.

    • @Vomvomvomvomvom
      @Vomvomvomvomvom Před 11 dny +9

      This is brand new to me too, interesting findings though for sure

    • @jimmygretchen9386
      @jimmygretchen9386 Před 2 dny

      Yeah, it was really interesting... then they started going on about narratives around race and gender while talking about pre-human ancestors as if it is anything to do with the discovery itself. Free your mind from this trash, please.

    • @the_grand_inquisitor2511
      @the_grand_inquisitor2511 Před 2 dny +5

      Right?!?? I'm like...WHY IS THIS JUST POPPING UP IN MY RECOMMENDED, NOW?!?😂😂

    • @user-xi3mj3mx4j
      @user-xi3mj3mx4j Před dnem +3

      Only just found this today.
      Amazing

    • @luissampaio2104
      @luissampaio2104 Před dnem +1

      I can't believe I've only found this now

  • @MrCarrot__
    @MrCarrot__ Před měsícem +205

    I don’t think I’m claustrophobic until I see footage like this

    • @awdobsession717
      @awdobsession717 Před 5 dny +10

      Confined space isn’t for everyone. They mentioned the one archeologist lost 50 pounds just so he could make it into that particular cave. That’s some dedication

    • @user-xi3mj3mx4j
      @user-xi3mj3mx4j Před dnem +3

      Scary as heck.
      No way would I ever go through there

  • @georgevanaken925
    @georgevanaken925 Před rokem +1253

    3:27 “It’s because we think we have some ownership of it.”
    Truer words…

    • @jgp1294
      @jgp1294 Před měsícem +22

      ….never spoken

    • @FelixBibian
      @FelixBibian Před měsícem +7

      Saw a man speak those words🤷‍♂️

    • @jgp1294
      @jgp1294 Před měsícem +16

      @@FelixBibian the saying is “truer words never spoken”….i was just finishing the quote ✌️

    • @joelcox504
      @joelcox504 Před měsícem

      Well anybody else willing to climb down there can claim it.

    • @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat
      @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat Před měsícem

      😮😮

  • @daily_rhetoric
    @daily_rhetoric Před rokem +1056

    When I was a food inspector in the military I would inspect everything at eye level, the corners and things all around me. I had to be taught to look up. It’s just something that we don’t think to do at times.

    • @lanceschirmer5583
      @lanceschirmer5583 Před rokem +10

      Did you do MREs as well? I was in supply and we always had a "vet" check for expired (unusable) supply. Unfortunately I never really asked who or what determined if they were no longer consumable.
      (BTW vet was quoted because that's what we called them not really sure actual title)

    • @rolandthethompsongunner64
      @rolandthethompsongunner64 Před rokem +20

      Especially when you’re trying not to fall on your face in a dark creepy cave.😂

    • @G3RM3X617
      @G3RM3X617 Před rokem

      If it's our ancestors then how is it a different species. Just cause they didnt have technology yet doesnt mean it's another species. 🤨

    • @MyPalJimbo
      @MyPalJimbo Před rokem +8

      What are some of the things you discovered by looking up as a military food inspector?

    • @rtqii
      @rtqii Před rokem +20

      @@MyPalJimbo Leaks and grease accumulations mostly... Both have to be addressed.

  • @DonaldDucksRevenge
    @DonaldDucksRevenge Před rokem +1006

    Congratulations to Lee Berger, Keneiloe Molopyane and their whole team. Great commitment, great discoveries!

    • @intermodus2180
      @intermodus2180 Před rokem +14

      1. Could have been scorch marks from anywhere.
      2. Pre-Humans are still Human.
      3. Wild Speculation does not a Discovery Make.
      4. Have a Magical Day.🦊🚬

    • @demonking-pk3by
      @demonking-pk3by Před rokem +11

      @@intermodus2180 are you also someone who believes out of bilions of planets earth is the only one that was capable of life?

    • @intermodus2180
      @intermodus2180 Před rokem +3

      @@demonking-pk3by a little off topic, but you asked Soo nicely.
      I'm a Fan of Star Trek...so I assume, the possibilities are endless.
      I'm of the mind, that it's old news, and the reason why it's not openly accepted, is because, "we were made in his image", but if another sentient lifeform had a civilization on another planet... religion, here on E-yarth might suddenly feel less special and fabricated.
      And on this planet, "ppl" are barely able to control themselves, when they think they're *IN* his sight.
      That's my take on the likelihood of extra-Terrestrial life. I hope that satisfied your curiosity.🦊🚬

    • @TuneyDarko
      @TuneyDarko Před rokem

      @@intermodus2180 human is mostly used towards homosapien and that’s why we have the same human

    • @TuneyDarko
      @TuneyDarko Před rokem +1

      @@demonking-pk3by there’s definitely life BUT the chances of intelligent life is pretty close to impossible since life takes 100,000s years to form and to evolve to land it can take another few 100,000 years, for intelligent life to form it would take a extremely large amount of time and would require them to gain a consciousness, even if they do gain such a thing it would not mean it would throw them into a Stone Age. Humans are completely accidental and simply lucky to exist is what I’m saying.

  • @kaispirit2079
    @kaispirit2079 Před 15 hodinami +10

    " We are arrogant as humans thinking we're superior." Well said. 💯

  • @MSB-sn1md
    @MSB-sn1md Před 5 dny +34

    Controlled use of fire has never been unique to humans. There are bird species that will pick up burning sticks and light brush fires to drive their prey out.

    • @goose1114
      @goose1114 Před 3 dny +26

      Picking up burning sticks and lighting a fire are two separate things

    • @mhaas281
      @mhaas281 Před dnem

      What birds?

    • @1Morey
      @1Morey Před 23 hodinami +3

      ​@@mhaas281Three species of bird in Australia do this: black kites, whistling kites, and brown falcons.

  • @carguy3028
    @carguy3028 Před rokem +645

    One of the theories I had read about was that the human brain grew because of cooked foods like meat. This would mean it wasn’t us who discovered fire but an ancestor who we inherited it from. I don’t see how it’s such a big leap.

    • @carguy3028
      @carguy3028 Před rokem

      @@inktensive1584 it doesn’t mean they were more advanced, it means they were less advanced and we developed because of it. Fire allowed a more primitive species to spawn us. One day we may give rise to a more advanced species, something smarter than us. Our current technology may be what allows them to come into being or our future technology. We are just a link in the evolutionary chain and we are not done evolving.

    • @DrachenGothik666
      @DrachenGothik666 Před rokem +145

      @@inktensive1584 No, that means the *LESS-advanced* species discovered fire and passed the skill on and the species continued to evolve, developing a larger brain with a better diet from cooked food. Advancements come *first,* slowly and piecemeal by some individual or group figuring something out, or by an animal mutating and surviving, and civilizations or species build on those advancements as they develop.

    • @CARLOSBARCELOIV
      @CARLOSBARCELOIV Před 2 měsíci +13

      Terence Mckenna mushrooms

    • @atrumphasmatis6719
      @atrumphasmatis6719 Před měsícem +23

      @@MrGreen-fi5sgpretty bold statement considering there’s no proof of that and that there is proof of evolution

    • @MrGreen-fi5sg
      @MrGreen-fi5sg Před měsícem +5

      @@atrumphasmatis6719 What proof is there exactly?
      Us existence should be the only evidence we need of God's existence.

  • @My_Alchemical_Romance
    @My_Alchemical_Romance Před rokem +911

    This is huge.
    Glad this has been found.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před rokem +10

      This isn't a new hypothesis. I suggest checking out Gutsick Gibbons channel

    • @HomeGrowin
      @HomeGrowin Před rokem +4

      Why?

    • @The1sKa
      @The1sKa Před rokem

      This is bs they just want us to think our life’s have no value that we are meaningless

    • @P2Feener305
      @P2Feener305 Před měsícem +14

      So what do us humans do with this HUGE bit of information ? Revise a National Geographic episode ?

    • @markmendoza1935
      @markmendoza1935 Před měsícem +20

      ​@@P2Feener305why are you even watching this video? Your sarcasm shows this is of little interest to you

  • @troyd9212
    @troyd9212 Před rokem +470

    It's so aggravating!! An astounding story that adds more depth to the human condition and the news anchor just says "wow he lost 50 pounds" then when the other anchor actually contributes to the conversation, he gets shut down by the first with "you using dem big words again". Idiocracy is an underrated documentary.

    • @ciara7172
      @ciara7172 Před rokem +20

      That guy was so annoying.

    • @mobiusstrip107
      @mobiusstrip107 Před měsícem +44

      I was thinking of when Ms M mentioned that it’s always been “men” who have been searching and the blond interviewer shakes her head saying “white men, white men”. This rhetoric has become the norm which is wrong. Can you imagine the uproar if it was the other way around. Respect should go both ways.

    • @birdsofafeather8368
      @birdsofafeather8368 Před měsícem +39

      Yeah that annoyed me too. I was so impressed with him and his pronunciation and overall level of knowledge about the subject and they kind of shut him down.

    • @Likelyfairy
      @Likelyfairy Před měsícem +12

      The kind of behavior you would expect to end in a classroom 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @rari2943
      @rari2943 Před 27 dny +12

      ⁠@@mobiusstrip107I mean it’s just the truth…
      Stop being offended of history and acknowledge that it was what it was

  • @Blossoming-o6r
    @Blossoming-o6r Před 2 dny +21

    I feel like this should have been a bigger story than it was. So glad to have found this video. Fascinating!

    • @Euphoryaaa
      @Euphoryaaa Před 12 hodinami

      Guess which group has interest in suppressing stories like this. Take a wild guess

  • @AshGreen359
    @AshGreen359 Před měsícem +189

    Strange, someone once asked me when did humans first use fire. A quick Google search told me we were using fire since before we were human.
    That was years ago.

    • @willie417
      @willie417 Před 24 dny +26

      an international team of archaeologists has unearthed what appear to be traces of campfires that flickered 1 million years ago.Apr 2, 2012

    • @J.G.Wentworth69420
      @J.G.Wentworth69420 Před 23 dny +5

      If you searched it on Google then it must be true!

    • @willie417
      @willie417 Před 23 dny +13

      @@J.G.Wentworth69420 🤨🤔🤨😐🤔😏😁.
      as for me I still use Yahoo! and then I go about 4 pages back for any info because those first site pages are paid to be first 🤓

    • @Ivinhomaneirinho
      @Ivinhomaneirinho Před 20 dny

      switch to startpage/duckduckgo!​@@willie417

    • @salvyballacc
      @salvyballacc Před 18 dny +7

      ​@@J.G.Wentworth69420well where els does one get information? Books? The internet is just another Book.

  • @jeffskinner1226
    @jeffskinner1226 Před rokem +758

    I think it's a rather short step for a species that's already making stone/edge tools to then advance to use of fire: if they're constantly smacking rocks together it's only a matter of time until they get the materials right and stumble across the fact that sparks plus tinder equals fire.

    • @peterevans8194
      @peterevans8194 Před rokem +12

      Was this species making flint tools though?

    • @ayoungethan
      @ayoungethan Před rokem +50

      Australian aborigines learned firestick farming from watching predatory raptors flush prey out of the brush by carrying and strategically placing burning sticks.

    • @JaronLindow
      @JaronLindow Před rokem +22

      And then fire plus meat equals tasty.

    • @JonnoPlays
      @JonnoPlays Před rokem +24

      @@peterevans8194 no stone tools have been found or associated with this species of pre human according to Google search.

    • @UXtatic
      @UXtatic Před rokem +1

      Bingo.

  • @billh2294
    @billh2294 Před rokem +224

    I though this was old news. My understanding was that our guts are too small for the size of our bodies and that fire was the development which allowed for our ancestors to abandon the trees for safety. If this is true then it was not humans who learned to harness fire but the harnessing of fire which created humans. It is our non-human ancestors who deserve the credit for harnessing fire.

    • @MrGreen-fi5sg
      @MrGreen-fi5sg Před měsícem +8

      @@billh2294 Man y'all will believe in anything.

    • @Excremental_Discharge
      @Excremental_Discharge Před měsícem

      You obviously never heard the theory that early ancestors of humans more than likely accelerated their brain development by eating psychedelic mushrooms in extremely large quantities

    • @OldBoldBiker
      @OldBoldBiker Před měsícem

      @@MrGreen-fi5sg Thank dog we don't believe in a made up invisible sky god.

    • @noname-yb5jt
      @noname-yb5jt Před měsícem +7

      We're in a simulation anyway, nothing matters. ​@MrGreen-fi5sg

    • @MrGreen-fi5sg
      @MrGreen-fi5sg Před měsícem +5

      @@noname-yb5jt That was just a movie sur..... It wasn't even that good. Just an egdy cgi mess.

  • @keyfiender799
    @keyfiender799 Před rokem +74

    "Just because we've been by it 100 times, doesn't mean we've SEEN it."

  • @krombopulosmicheal3845
    @krombopulosmicheal3845 Před 8 hodinami +4

    "One of the reasons humans are so harmful to the environment, to the world, is because we think we have some ownership of it."
    Damn, that was profound.

  • @owlwoman911
    @owlwoman911 Před 2 dny +18

    How dare they look at people who used fire, cooked their food AND buried their dead, and deny that they were human. How exactly do you determine WHAT is human?

    • @kamkam3457
      @kamkam3457 Před 2 dny +3

      i think it drives the question that do only humans cook food and bury dead

  • @peterevans8194
    @peterevans8194 Před rokem +286

    Just to add another comment, so called "fire birds" are a documented phenomenon. Black Kites in Australia are known to carry burning sticks and twigs to start fires on new patches of grass land...They do this this as they hunt around the perimeter of small bushfire...Other bird species have been seen to do similar...

    • @revolvermaster4939
      @revolvermaster4939 Před rokem +11

      👍it only takes a birdbrain to master fire!

    • @dmo848
      @dmo848 Před měsícem +10

      That's wild. I never heard of that before. I tell ya. Learn something new everyday

    • @Sika6061
      @Sika6061 Před měsícem +10

      That's amazing. Birds are so smart!

    • @gorganhorn6872
      @gorganhorn6872 Před měsícem

      @@dmo848omg you got played 🤣

    • @DanMorgan-bh5fv
      @DanMorgan-bh5fv Před měsícem +4

      @@Sika6061 Considering they were the only survivors when the dino's were wiped out their brains have been constantly learning for millions of years if not longer.

  • @sleepy1205
    @sleepy1205 Před rokem +124

    This just proves the saying " if you want something done right, you do it yourself".

    • @umop3plsdn
      @umop3plsdn Před 14 dny +4

      Orrrrrr it was one of his team that found it and he took the credit with this sensationalist story like what happens with many discoveries

    • @sylvesteruchia5263
      @sylvesteruchia5263 Před 2 dny

      I think its more needing new eyes. It was his first time there . The others might have had literal tunnel vision .

  • @ASAPSodie
    @ASAPSodie Před měsícem +18

    As a fellow Anthro nerd Tony’s knowledge of hominids is impressive 👏🏾

  • @deagle2yadome696
    @deagle2yadome696 Před 4 dny +4

    black twitter be like we invented fire y’all

  • @richb2229
    @richb2229 Před rokem +45

    There is a lot of evidence that human ancestors used fire long before this discovery. However it doesn’t reduce the significance of this particular discovery.

  • @williamozier918
    @williamozier918 Před rokem +193

    I love how every "new" discovery is actually over 10 years old.

    • @damikey18
      @damikey18 Před rokem +9

      This one is new though

    • @lordsiomai
      @lordsiomai Před rokem +46

      Well from what I know, scientific discoveries take a long time of going through verification, peer reviews, and whatnot so that we are totally sure that the discoveries are legit before we share it with the world.

    • @Shay45
      @Shay45 Před rokem +1

      @@damikey18
      This cave was found in 2013 though

    • @nickvelez6197
      @nickvelez6197 Před rokem +11

      @@Shay45 recent discovery within the cave

    • @dormantmenace
      @dormantmenace Před měsícem +7

      Yup
      Cradle of life was proven wrong. If you try to research it. Lucy or omo I bones are always described as "some of the oldest remains," not the oldest at around 230,000 years old
      Florisbad site, South Africa: Dated to around 259,000 years ago
      Jebel Irhoud site, Morocco: Dated to around 315,000 years ago
      'Ubeidiya, Israel: A 1.5 million-year-old bone from a child who was between 6 and 12 years old when he died .
      Yet Google oldest remains, and they continue to try and sell you the cradle of life.

  • @northerniltree
    @northerniltree Před rokem +114

    The charred beer cans found at the site further our understanding of these early hominids.

    • @JB-qe2mo
      @JB-qe2mo Před rokem +13

      🤣🤣🤣 good one. I also think the ends of cigars were quite peculiar as well. Leads me to believe these early hominids partied similar and possibly were legends as well.

    • @jglaraunique
      @jglaraunique Před měsícem

      LMFAOOOO 🤣

    • @jglaraunique
      @jglaraunique Před měsícem +2

      @@JB-qe2mo 🤣Legends

    • @HaviJarl
      @HaviJarl Před 29 dny +1

      @@JB-qe2mo Maybe they were top G's?

  • @willadeefriesland5107
    @willadeefriesland5107 Před 4 dny +1

    CBS should REALLY have put a warning to claustrophobes on this one...

  • @TheINFJChannel
    @TheINFJChannel Před 3 dny +1

    I love that last quote about us humans looking down instead of up.

  • @singalongwrudy8690
    @singalongwrudy8690 Před rokem +317

    Dragons had fire in Britain WAYYYY before blokes

  • @c87kim
    @c87kim Před měsícem +52

    There could have been an entire civilization that thrived and died out and ten million years later we’d have no trace of them.

    • @dcarr571
      @dcarr571 Před měsícem +5

      Besides the artifacts of art and tools and bones, but yeah.

    • @c87kim
      @c87kim Před měsícem +12

      @@dcarr571 nah bro, it could all be under the ocean. Plate tectonics

    • @joerocker21
      @joerocker21 Před 21 dnem

      95% of human history is under water...when the last ice age (not over yet) began to end...the planet will continue to warm.

    • @andypanda4756
      @andypanda4756 Před 4 dny +7

      ​@@dcarr571Bones turn to dust in that amount of time, so does carved wood. Stone tools are super hard to tell from broken rocks, even if you are in the right spot. Never mind on that time scale, geologic events change the Earth itself. It's difficult for humans to concieve of what happens in that amount of time when we feel 200 years was forever ago.

    • @horacio2562
      @horacio2562 Před 4 dny +1

      ​@@c87kimyessir the ocen has it all and those over frozen places in Antarctica

  • @angelocervantes4950
    @angelocervantes4950 Před rokem +91

    Wow my respects for him to lose 50 pounds to continue his work and to find this discovery

    • @rajeshgajwelly9035
      @rajeshgajwelly9035 Před měsícem +2

      who care? so human made fire earlier. big deal. we indians are intelligent enough to focus on future problem not past.

    • @Daakunesu
      @Daakunesu Před měsícem +2

      Disregarding the past will lead to repeating history. To disregard it is a mistake. History is still at the end of the day another avenue or research. ​@rajeshgajwelly9035

    • @rajeshgajwelly9035
      @rajeshgajwelly9035 Před měsícem +1

      @@Daakunesu this is why indian is CEO of google, microsoft, IBM, etc. it because we are highly intelligent and focus on future and technalogy

    • @prankedxd3937
      @prankedxd3937 Před 28 dny +6

      @@rajeshgajwelly9035i think you are focusing on the wrong things bud

    • @rajeshgajwelly9035
      @rajeshgajwelly9035 Před 28 dny +1

      @@prankedxd3937 we mighty indian do not focus on wrong thing

  • @drakedorosh9332
    @drakedorosh9332 Před dnem

    The guy who discovered this site was good at seeing what you see. The first time he goes in he makes the main observation that he would have made had he gone first. He then strokes everyone's ego to get them on board and save face.

  • @krispulz
    @krispulz Před měsícem +6

    Life is all about learning. Great find

  • @ge2623
    @ge2623 Před rokem +111

    If we've mastered fire, why do we have fire departments?

  • @spider46531
    @spider46531 Před rokem +163

    Of course the way down was not through that small crevice. Just think of the way the earth has shifted over the hundreds of thousands of years. That now small cave could have been larger or there was another opening. But they were at least safe from the much larger meat eaters or enemies

    • @waptek2
      @waptek2 Před rokem +9

      good assessment

    • @capactiveresistance314
      @capactiveresistance314 Před rokem +28

      Right and wrong. Earth does shift but not here around Johannesburg. 2 factors are at play. This whole area is filled with white dolomite. Which does erode rather fast, just google the appearance of sinkholes around gauteng. Now the dissolved rock could be redeposited there making the enterance smaller, but we know for a fact that it wasnt, in fact that cave is mostly made up of quartz.
      Secondly this area of Earth's surface is one of the oldest we have it has not changed much sinch Australia broke off from Africa. The only earthquakes we get are usually caused by mining the minerals in the crust and there is very little tectonic movement.
      Plus if you had been to the cave or researched it, you would know that the enterance to the Dinaledi Chamber where all these remains have been found are quite the climb onto shelves way above the average depth of the cave floor.

    • @Muggashyte
      @Muggashyte Před rokem +24

      This particular hominid was not as large as we are, and so the cave size is not the issue we, as a larger hominid, find it to be.
      Come on fire making tools! It’s going to be nerve wracking, to wait and see what if any tools they used for fire making. I for one hope it’s unusual.

    • @GraveTender333
      @GraveTender333 Před rokem +6

      And, My chain is getting jiggled. The head of this splunk and the team 10yrs back. Looked, here and the, never up. That is like; walking to a crosswalk with no light. And only looking, One-way... Step off the curb, ouch... No one mention. Getting samples of the blacken, soot on cave ceiling and run test to confirm. What is actually is. Also. How do they know this SOOT, is not from an earlier period? Hmmm
      with regards

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před rokem +1

      See Gutsick Gibbons channel for more

  • @annettepiff9759
    @annettepiff9759 Před rokem +80

    Nothing short of fascinating! Thanks so much! I'll be sure to share.

  • @freaker126
    @freaker126 Před měsícem +17

    why isn't this all over the world news? Only found out about it now. this is huge!

    • @davidmurray6176
      @davidmurray6176 Před měsícem +4

      They are hypothesized ideas not fact. I think it's a total croc of chipped beef gravy

    • @ForgingMyWins
      @ForgingMyWins Před měsícem +3

      ​@@davidmurray6176 explain why the evidence presented smells fishy then.

    • @crafting11111
      @crafting11111 Před měsícem

      Bc the mayority of people in the world is religious, these news mean that evolution is real and that goes against their beliefs, i wonder how they cant just believe that good created the universe itself and thats it.

    • @user-my6vz6bd3q
      @user-my6vz6bd3q Před měsícem +1

      ​@davidmurray6176 something like this is plausible

    • @MrGreen-fi5sg
      @MrGreen-fi5sg Před 28 dny

      @@freaker126 No.

  • @D00M3R_MAVS
    @D00M3R_MAVS Před 27 dny +7

    if anyone is wondering, you have till about 3:46 before the "message" is inserted.

    • @KuttyJoe
      @KuttyJoe Před 24 dny +2

      Why is that so problematic for you?

  • @sleepy1205
    @sleepy1205 Před rokem +24

    I am just amazed by how many different species of humans there are. Has anyone in these comments heard about the new ancient human species found in the Philippines.

  • @ozarkcaveman6383
    @ozarkcaveman6383 Před rokem +70

    I have always looked at the ceiling of the shelters and caves to see smoke residue. Hard to figure that out. All fires will smoke the ceiling.

    • @andypanda4756
      @andypanda4756 Před 2 dny +1

      Yet we still don't know why the Pyramids have no smoke on the ceilings or walls.

    • @andypanda4756
      @andypanda4756 Před dnem

      @@BrunetteVignette So they built and used them by just feeling the walls and stumbling in the dark?
      (Plus, if you're being honest NO ONE knows what they were used for. So you can drop any tone of authority 😇).

    • @andypanda4756
      @andypanda4756 Před dnem

      @@BrunetteVignette That's an assumption you are making scholar...
      And it wasn't a question. It was a statement. You need to learn how to read and some manners.

    • @andypanda4756
      @andypanda4756 Před dnem

      Wow instead of apologizing, she just deleted her post... I guess she picked up a book.

  • @jasonlabelle3302
    @jasonlabelle3302 Před rokem +38

    So let me get this straight, it wasn’t until Lee Berger himself visited the chamber that he was the first to see “smoke stains” and burned bone? We’ve been told for years about his expert crew conducting the work in the chamber over the past ten years - what is he saying about their skills? How would they miss such evidence? Really odd. And how exactly does Berger knows this is soot from burning? Let’s see the peer reviewed work first…

    • @MrTangent
      @MrTangent Před rokem +3

      What else would cause soot inside a cave?

    • @naynay3710
      @naynay3710 Před rokem +16

      Actually, the lady found the burned bones, not him. Also, not everything needs to be a conspiracy. I don't think it, or he, is saying anything bad about the skills of his crew. He's only saying that looking up is not something that humans usually do. As archeologists, I'm sure they've seen lots of soot many, many times. It sounds like your first instinct is to disbelieve, rather than to accept what looks to be true, till someone else comes in to say it really is true. Perhaps it was in a part of the cave they hadn't inspected before. I guess I'm just more inclined to give someone the benefit of the doubt until, and if, they are proven wrong.

    • @L_Train
      @L_Train Před rokem +5

      Another researcher found burnt material at the same time. Of course the guy telling the story is going to tell it the way he did.

    • @artimmiftari6312
      @artimmiftari6312 Před rokem +10

      @@naynay3710 ​ ​Humans don’t look up? We are immeasurably the most intelligent creature to ever exist and we aren’t capable of averting our gaze upwards? We are not dogs Nay Nay. If these ground-breaking archaeologists have ‘seen soot many many times’ how did they miss it for the better part of a decade? It’s a valid point of contention. Also, it is not a conspiracy theory to have your work peer reviewed. It is part of the scientific process and an integral element to any candid thesis or guileless scientific work. One more thing, it is not virtuous to give someone the ‘benefit of the doubt’ and just ‘accept what appears to be true’, forgoing due diligence for sake of naïveté. Especially amid the internet age where in lieu of merit and fact, financial gain and prestige are promoted, slighting the truth in the process. Have a nice day!

    • @fademusic1980
      @fademusic1980 Před rokem +9

      @@artimmiftari6312 "we are immeasurably the most intelligent creature..." but apparently you aren't with how you are misusing that word

  • @jeremysanchez8329
    @jeremysanchez8329 Před 4 dny +2

    🙋we used fire to go to space and create mini suns in the form of bombs i think we are the first true masters of fire😂

  • @PeteOutdoors1
    @PeteOutdoors1 Před měsícem +2

    I was waiting for "white man" to come up and I was not surprised. I was waiting for "human bad" to come up and I was not surprised. This is not journalism nor is it science, it is advocacy.
    As a geologist, I would like to know the geological history of that cave. I would like to know what the source of the fire was. It is possible the fire was natural and it occurred AFTER the bones were deposited. This is not at all conclusive.

  • @jesserice233
    @jesserice233 Před rokem +10

    We've known this since the 1900. This type of stuff is literally in my history books in Middle School

  • @prometheus200
    @prometheus200 Před rokem +29

    We aren’t special as humans, we tend to think so a lot. This is brilliant.

    • @genetillman2313
      @genetillman2313 Před rokem +11

      When they find cavemen on the moon I'll believe that humans aren't special 😆

    • @The1sKa
      @The1sKa Před rokem

      That’s exactly what the agenda is about
      To make us believe we have no meaning
      God is real

    • @shortstarwarsessays1842
      @shortstarwarsessays1842 Před rokem +1

      @@genetillman2313the Nazis were the first to enter space, so perhaps us being special among earth isn’t a good thing. Especially with how evil the USA and Russia are we are definitely doomed for extinction before we do anything really special.

    • @prometheus200
      @prometheus200 Před rokem +1

      @@genetillman2313 😂😂😂

    • @StompDownJammo
      @StompDownJammo Před rokem

      we are the only known sentient beings out of every animal on earth so yes we are unique. You're not unique don't generalize us.

  • @verreal
    @verreal Před rokem +40

    This confirms what he wanted to find however. Did he bring any samples back for independent analysis?

    • @spatrk6634
      @spatrk6634 Před rokem +9

      what do you think?

    • @gwiz6278
      @gwiz6278 Před rokem +13

      Obviously. He's a scientist.

    • @AGDinCA
      @AGDinCA Před rokem +13

      @Verreal - I completely agree with your sentiment. I mean, his team searches the cave for 10 years and don't find anything, yet on his first trip down there he just _happens_ to confirm his hypothesis? By looking up? Seriously, that idea did not occur to anyone of his team of grad students - for 10 years?
      I dunno... I'd like some independent verification.

    • @The1sKa
      @The1sKa Před rokem +2

      @@AGDinCA it’s all bogus to make us think our life’s have no meaning
      God is real

    • @AGDinCA
      @AGDinCA Před rokem +4

      @@The1sKa No, I'm not saying the scientist's statement is bogus in the least. What I am saying is that if you are going to make bold proclamations, you need to be ready to produce significant proof, including independent verification.
      I would also say the same to you, sir.

  • @zacchfromdalou9679
    @zacchfromdalou9679 Před měsícem +1

    They throw the obvious in our face just to make themselves feel better for all that time, money and effort they wasted chasing a certain degree especially in Africa🤦🏾‍♂️🤧💯

  • @Alaska_Gal
    @Alaska_Gal Před 3 dny +1

    Goosebumps! This is incredible.

  • @LionElAton
    @LionElAton Před rokem +15

    This is totally incredible. Their commitment is so commendable.

  • @ConstantGardener-q9q
    @ConstantGardener-q9q Před rokem +17

    I’m not sure soot on ceilings are conclusive. 1) there is no way to correlated the smoke with the species discovered (the fire could have happened after or before); 2) anyone who has ever created a fire in an unventilated structure knows how ridiculous that would be.

    • @bradleeedwards
      @bradleeedwards Před rokem +5

      Exactly. Humans could have explored the cave more recently and started fires. And natural phenomena could have pushed a fire into the cave.

    • @cybercraft5393
      @cybercraft5393 Před rokem +3

      I think you can carbon date the soot and bones. The protohumans probably saw greater utility in having the light and warmth in the safety of the cave. The ceiling was quite high in the chamber and if you were burning dry tender, it would not get crazy smokey very quickly.
      As far as fire being pushed into the cave, I don't think it would go very far as there's nothing to burn. Sure it could be pushed in a bit by wind, but it has nothing flammable to combust for sustained intervals.
      These are just my thoughts. This is very interesting to me.

    • @josephmayfield945
      @josephmayfield945 Před rokem

      @@bradleeedwards well if two rando guys on the net think it’s bs; I guess they better retract everything.

    • @ConstantGardener-q9q
      @ConstantGardener-q9q Před rokem

      @@cybercraft5393 My point is that while both the bones and soot could be carbon dated, they would need to be correlated as occurring roughly within the same timeline, which I don’t believe they’ve done yet. That said, I do think non-human hominids could potentially be capable of fire. I am just not convinced that they would light a fire in a cave. You said the ceiling was high. I thought they were extremely tight space… but maybe I missed something. In any case, it certainly is an interesting prospect :)

  • @th0rn3gaming
    @th0rn3gaming Před rokem +140

    I just had a severe moment of claustrophobia watching this video 🤣

    • @xbrandi12345x
      @xbrandi12345x Před rokem +2

      Not me!! Nobody would interrupt my nap in there!

    • @irishsamurai9008
      @irishsamurai9008 Před rokem +1

      Worse if your watching under a blanket

    • @skatetoexplorevideos2477
      @skatetoexplorevideos2477 Před rokem

      It's even more claustrophobic if there's an earthquake and they get stuck or crushed to death.

    • @naynay3710
      @naynay3710 Před rokem +5

      No amount of passion to find something could get me to wiggle down into that tunnel! They are all better humans than I.

    • @pechaa
      @pechaa Před rokem +1

      I felt sick watching those parts. I am amazed they don’t panic.

  • @thackerybinx1116
    @thackerybinx1116 Před měsícem +1

    Just imagine how much we don’t know

  • @wynwilliams6977
    @wynwilliams6977 Před 2 dny

    His team was down there ten years and failed to find anything, he spends two minutes there and finds everything :D

  • @brucelee5576
    @brucelee5576 Před rokem +73

    You can’t rule out the possibility that some humans came in there way later a started those fires.

    • @MrGreen-fi5sg
      @MrGreen-fi5sg Před měsícem +12

      @@thomandstacieverroad8417 Also the fact how evolution never happened.

    • @Sika6061
      @Sika6061 Před měsícem +41

      Yes you can. Radiometric dating. Fires leave carbon residue (that's the black stuff) that can be dated fairly accurately. If the soot on the walls and ceilings date the same as the bones (also carbon based), you have a clear line of evidence.

    • @Sika6061
      @Sika6061 Před měsícem +11

      @@MrGreen-fi5sg You forgot the /s to denote sarcasm.

    • @MrGreen-fi5sg
      @MrGreen-fi5sg Před měsícem

      @@Sika6061 What?

    • @28th_St_Air
      @28th_St_Air Před měsícem +7

      @@MrGreen-fi5sg it never happened for you. Explain fossils, or that you have DNA in your mitochondria that isn’t the same as the DNA in the nucleus of your cells.

  • @swat486
    @swat486 Před rokem +10

    Joe Rogan: “Jamie Pull that up”

    • @billblackledge2679
      @billblackledge2679 Před měsícem +2

      Joe Rogan: “They must have used that narrow passage to escape the huge bears back then.”

    • @Deez762
      @Deez762 Před 16 dny

      ​@@billblackledge2679lmao

  • @mechanix1228
    @mechanix1228 Před rokem +8

    Graham Hancock is gonna have a field day with this one.

  • @EMBEEAY
    @EMBEEAY Před dnem +1

    Why is nobody mentioning how this man lost 50lbs just so he can explore the caves himself and make this discovery?!

  • @rcsideshow
    @rcsideshow Před 2 dny +1

    Omg I’m cloister phobic, I’m freakin out watching this

  • @societydwellingifd8080
    @societydwellingifd8080 Před rokem +9

    *_There's no way I could crawl thru holes in caves like that. If I can't walk upright to get in and out then I'm not doing it. I get really nervous watching stuff like that and sometimes I have to turn it off cuz it gets my anxiety going._*

  • @xenotbbbeats7209
    @xenotbbbeats7209 Před rokem +27

    That man hit the nail on the head regarding human hubris.

  • @MrBDezno
    @MrBDezno Před rokem +14

    Such an interesting topic. TY

  • @user-yq8ck8yf3u
    @user-yq8ck8yf3u Před 9 hodinami

    It is also quite possible that they were using echo location for navigating the caves which would convey unique spatial thinking abilities.

  • @Hooligoon78
    @Hooligoon78 Před 4 dny +1

    We really are not that special, we are fragile and destroy everything we create.

  • @dungeonbayshop564
    @dungeonbayshop564 Před rokem +29

    That only tells me that other humans were down there and made fire before that dude went down there.

    • @zoso1123
      @zoso1123 Před měsícem +5

      Right how can u tell me ur the first human to explore a cave in africa?

    • @xmo552
      @xmo552 Před měsícem +3

      💡

    • @PamKopp-ot7fd
      @PamKopp-ot7fd Před měsícem +1

      Exactly lol

    • @davidmurray6176
      @davidmurray6176 Před měsícem +3

      Spot on. I've been in caves and the first thing we did was build a fire . Duh!

    • @MLM68
      @MLM68 Před měsícem +1

      You really have not seen this cave have you? It’s the star cave in South Africa. it’s pretty inaccessible. It took professionals to get there dude. It’s not like some open campground.

  • @micmalawi
    @micmalawi Před rokem +44

    Its a pity that politics has to come into it all the time now - "white man's narrative"... science is science - you don't have to have a dig at someone's "race" and gender.

    • @JB-qe2mo
      @JB-qe2mo Před rokem +3

      @Sean 😂😂😂 good thing at least you know all the answers. Please share your research and in fact rewrite all of history so it's finally true.

    • @wallstreetc1496
      @wallstreetc1496 Před měsícem

      Yes

  • @Hopeless_and_Forlorn
    @Hopeless_and_Forlorn Před rokem +8

    So supposedly qualified people are visiting this archaeological site and not seeing obvious signs of fire all over the place, but Lee Berger goes down and sees it immediately? How is this possible? Something is off here.

  • @patriot1303
    @patriot1303 Před měsícem +1

    Maybe an animal made fire it’s possible but I’m not sure why he feels mankind isn’t unique? The animals have not made a nuclear bomb or sailed the world’s oceans or went to the moon. The animals all live outdoors while man flys in airplanes and stays in hotels. An animal may have been able to make fire which is still just a hypothesis at this point and that means now we’re just like animals? The differences between us are too vast to ignore but the bigger question is why is he trying to erase those differences and I think the answer to that is confirmation bias

  • @Stephen-G
    @Stephen-G Před měsícem +1

    Now we just need to figure out who made ice first

  • @buhingkalbaryo
    @buhingkalbaryo Před rokem +6

    They said that the first Fire benders were the Dragons.And one of the most powerful forms of Element, Bending.😁

  • @ElyasBinYahya
    @ElyasBinYahya Před rokem +5

    So many archaeologists don’t follow the evidence

  • @ryanjavierortega8513
    @ryanjavierortega8513 Před rokem +9

    This is heartening!

    • @ryancuda45
      @ryancuda45 Před rokem

      yes it amazing they could start a fire in a cave stunning and brave like greta

  • @DJHeroMasta
    @DJHeroMasta Před měsícem +2

    We were never special. Compared to the rest of the species on this planet. We're just a really cool science experiment.

  • @erickgarcia-re6qy
    @erickgarcia-re6qy Před měsícem

    I’m just now seeing this in 2024 , why am I just now seeing this in 2024?!? This is an amazing discovery into humans history on this earth. Something I’ve always thought about that this thing we call life, is possibly just an endless cycle that’s never ending. Though we are in the future, we are also in someone else past.

  • @JonnoPlays
    @JonnoPlays Před rokem +6

    The last 50 years of archeology have been amazing.

  • @harryseldon362
    @harryseldon362 Před rokem +15

    This is more than amazing! WOW - man wasn't the first to use fire. We are starting to piece together man's history instead of assumptions.

    • @P2Feener305
      @P2Feener305 Před měsícem

      Wow this changes everything…amazing what the future will bring 🤩

    • @FirstnameLastname-rc8yd
      @FirstnameLastname-rc8yd Před měsícem +1

      Well, there’s actually quite a bit of assumption taking place but it is something…

  • @edition-deluxe
    @edition-deluxe Před rokem +16

    They jump to so many conclusions. This whole field is such a joke.

    • @mikevee9145
      @mikevee9145 Před rokem +3

      It's more the "scientists" than the field. He said, "I think" and "may have", and then goes on to state a bunch of assumptions as facts. Evolutionary scientists are the worst with this.

    • @edition-deluxe
      @edition-deluxe Před rokem +1

      @@mikevee9145 Funny, and sad at the same time.

    • @Kyle-ky2po
      @Kyle-ky2po Před rokem +1

      I have frequently pooped 💩 in such caves hoping one day it will be discovered

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před rokem +1

      He's not saying anything conclusively, you'd realize this if you actually studied paleontology
      See Gutsick Gibbons channel for more

    • @mikevee9145
      @mikevee9145 Před rokem

      @@Kyle-ky2po An evolutionary scientist will find it and come out with an article stating that humans weren't the first to eat potato chips.

  • @AmericanMight
    @AmericanMight Před měsícem +3

    This proves nothing.. those bones and fragments could have been washed down that cave by a storm. We have no idea how they got in there.

  • @Couchflyer-NY
    @Couchflyer-NY Před 5 dny

    Man wasn’t the first. But according to the Flinstones, we invented the lighter and filtered cigarette.

  • @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025

    I would think that besides burnt bones and sooty ceilings they would have found evidence of tools necessary to make or create the fires as real evidence that they were actually fabricating fire in that cave, and those proto humans couldn't have been that neat and tidy to take it with them when they left the cave...

    • @FirstLast-di5sr
      @FirstLast-di5sr Před rokem +12

      Since fire can be started by wood + friction I can't assume the evidence is guaranteed to have survived / left behind.

    • @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025
      @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025 Před rokem +2

      and flinty rocks...

    • @zee9709
      @zee9709 Před rokem +2

      Any wood would've broken down in hundreds thousand years. Only left maybe flint

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před rokem

      See Gutsick Gibbons channel for more

    • @rtqii
      @rtqii Před rokem

      @@zee9709 Unless it was charred... The wood will rot, but the charred end of a fire stick won't rot.

  • @NoPantsBaby
    @NoPantsBaby Před rokem +4

    Did they date the soot? I mean legit question here, that is 99% certain not a burial site. There is no way that early hominids decided to drag their dead, heavy weightless corpses DOWN a crevice with enough kindling to cremate the body inside the cave. It would be utterly pointless. The site could have been targeted by cave explorers who lit the fires anywhere between now and whenever the creature died and then abandoned. There are maps of this cave and it's at least 3 chambers underground, my bet? A lion made it's home in that cave and we're looking at it's snacks. The fire is from later man who found the cave and explored it looking for minerals.

  • @twilightgardenspresentatio6384

    Which mammals use stone tools? Which birds use fire? Which birds use stone tools?

    • @waptek2
      @waptek2 Před rokem

      many apes & some other mammals & a few birds use tools
      look it up

    • @nothcial
      @nothcial Před rokem +8

      Ever seen a crow. They are pretty smart. For an animal that is.

    • @randysmith5435
      @randysmith5435 Před rokem +5

      There are many species of birds and mammals that make use of both tools and fire.
      Are you incapable of finding this information or are you being purposefully obtuse?

    • @bleachsanchoblastk
      @bleachsanchoblastk Před rokem

      While they don't start fires there are actually birds that will pick up burning sticks to flush out small animals in grassy areas. Black kites for example.

  • @richardhart9204
    @richardhart9204 Před 4 dny

    … please. For millions of years, avian raptors have been setting fires to flush prey from cover.

  • @jmo2104
    @jmo2104 Před dnem +1

    It's so incredibly exciting!

  • @jackkeyhoe7072
    @jackkeyhoe7072 Před rokem +12

    I WONDER HOW LONG I WOULD HAVE TO WATCH THIS UNTIL THEY MADE IT ABOUT GENDER AND COLOUR

  • @janicerstone1872
    @janicerstone1872 Před rokem +17

    Always follow the evidence.

    • @asahel980
      @asahel980 Před rokem +4

      and evidence can be manipulated or misinterpreted.

    • @AranRinzei
      @AranRinzei Před rokem +1

      Question everything especially mainstream academia

    • @Jaysonbc1234
      @Jaysonbc1234 Před rokem

      Hunter bidens laptop

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před rokem +1

      See Gutsick Gibbons channel for more

  • @creightonsnyders4290

    Debora Patta, as a South african i always wondered where she went to. Used to see her on a show called 3rd degree on Sabc

  • @shanac5536
    @shanac5536 Před 3 dny

    "underground astronauts" is a badass name

  • @Col_Fragg
    @Col_Fragg Před měsícem +3

    When his research was subjected to extensive peer review, "The reviews concluded that there was virtually no evidence to support the papers' narrative speculations..."

  • @samlightning7280
    @samlightning7280 Před rokem +12

    We can't have sh**

  • @jaytrump2537
    @jaytrump2537 Před rokem +7

    Aaaaaaa thank you thank you AMAZING REPORT LONG LIVE CBS MORNINGS

  • @RubyRozaye
    @RubyRozaye Před 5 dny

    But some guy yelling at me through a megaphone told me earth is only 6000 years old and that I’m a sinner 😢

  • @billyin4c514
    @billyin4c514 Před měsícem

    If you think about it, discovering that friction produces heat would be impossible to avoid..

  • @happytape307
    @happytape307 Před měsícem +6

    Lightning strikes and volcanos entered the chat billions of years ago.

  • @wade4747
    @wade4747 Před měsícem +3

    Us humans are so anthropocentric and stubborn

    • @dcarr571
      @dcarr571 Před měsícem +1

      As opposed to chimps and fish and squirrels, which tend to see the world through a much more balanced, humble lens that considers all species.

  • @R6-D2
    @R6-D2 Před měsícem +12

    Anyone that thinks that this civilization is the first is sorely mistaken!

  • @Sean-nj3hx
    @Sean-nj3hx Před měsícem

    And I’m sure they’ll come up with some reason to discredit his findings and call him a pseudo scientist to protect their prestige

  • @razatlab100
    @razatlab100 Před 19 dny

    Billy Joel told you long time ago, "we didn't start the fire" 😂

  • @michaelradzichovsky9366
    @michaelradzichovsky9366 Před rokem +11

    Ah! The old 'White Man' narrative again. She's not biased at all.

  • @Okie8T9
    @Okie8T9 Před měsícem +5

    "Non human ancestors" lmfao
    😂😂😂