Lamar Jackson Playoff Narrative 👉 Does he still need a Super Bowl win to prove himself? | First Take
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- Lamar Jackson Playoff Narrative 👉 Does he still need a Super Bowl win to prove himself? | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Dan Orlovsky and Kimberley Martin discuss the playoff narrative surrounding Baltimore Ravens QB Lamar Jackson.
0:00 Does Lamar have to win a Super Bowl to change the narrative?
5:06 Stephen A. weighs in
9:03 Credit to the Ravens
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Dan orlovsky hit the nail on the coffin no matter what Lamar does he will always be held to a higher standard but he don’t care Lamar knows the mission at hand and he will deliver by any means necessary bookmark it 💯
Superbowls have always been the standard
Many QBs who are YT haven't won or made it. So, why Lamar get criticize since before draft night?@SunShine-xc6dh
@Fritz2Live4U I don't think youtube has ever been a qb.. people always have different opinions about draft pick. Has he proven any that said he can't win a superbowl wrong?
@@SunShine-xc6dheven when he wins the Super Bowl this year people will still downplay it and say the defense carried him, that’s their point. He’s never good enough to the haters (he has a lot)
@@SunShine-xc6dh🧢🧢🧢
In a year where Joe Burrow got hurt again and Herbert underperformed and had a terrible team, the only one still being questioned by his big contract is Lamar.
He could win the MVP, SB MVP and any other award they throw at him and the morons would still say "Yeah but can he do it next year?".
As a fan, I totally want him to win a SB because I want my Ravens to win one. But he's the best QB this franchise has ever had. Period.
Lmao that black African fella wasn't as good as Joe Flacco and Joe's playoff record speaks for itself the African quiter is just like black the African turnover machine Prescott overrated just because they are black African fellas lmao 🤣🚬
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Burrow has been to a Super Bowl and multiple afc championship games. He is above Lamar. Lamar is ahead of Herbert for sure though and it’s not really close
@@seangaines5863burrow had better WRs and weapons.. Lamar is the primary weapon for his offense.
@@seangaines5863burrow is not above lamar Burrow with this ravens team would be seeing ghosts because of our Oline reason why it seems like our Oline is great is because of Lamars pocket presence and tippy toeing his way out of sacks, I've seen burrow with a crappy Oline the Rams were feasting that superbowl.
This is crazy. I’m sitting here in tears because I think about all the times I’ve been a “Lamar Jackson.” It’s not just the city who he’s representing, it’s all of us. In 2024, the Lamar Jacksons of the world still have to go above and beyond to prove ourselves. It’s so disheartening and disappointing. It’s very much like if Lamar wins, WE win!!!
Fr man this could be a historical moment. Bigger than football. Lamar represents US. A SB win is like a win for US…
who’s us??
@@LuisHernandez-iz1ey black African fellas that's who and Lamar the African quiter Jackson will fold like a lawn chair 😳🚬
@@goodnightmunchie wmget your racism out here
It's not about color it's love or hate GOD is love the Devil is hate, which are you? Better get it right!
Lamar winning a super bowl would single handily change the league forever
Exactly
Idk if people realize this but footballs started out exactly how Lamar plays he's just more accurate than the first QBs they played like him tho
You have the No 1 defense…you better win
@user-ph1bk3lt3b while that may be true that wasn't what he was talking about I'm talking about what Dan 🤷🏿♂️
How
The realist segment ive seen from First Take in YEARS. Bravo!!!
funniest part is other than mahomes and burrow nobody has that much more playoff success than lamar... he advanced past the WC 3 times div round wins 0 allen has 4 wc wins 1 div round win loooooool and they act like josh allen has so much more playoff success its hilarious
Lmao that black African fella is to black to win a Superbowl 🧐🚬
facts i just said this
WHere you been ? Thought you were off the grid @@goodnightmunchie
Bro you 100% right
Dan is the man. He nailed it!
Lamar being a dark black tatted from Fla QB as a full time starter with a franchise that believes in him is almost historic
DAN KEEPING IT A BUCK!
I literally heard no one say anything like this all season. ESPN is so weird for making this a race thing. Very unnecessary.
So kim not gone apologize to cam. Yall gone sit there and listen to anything she says about a QB the way she disrespected cam
@@NeonTownExchange_Jacknobody mentioned race
Can't take Stephen A too seriously when it comes to Lamar Jackson. This guy literally said Lamar wasn't worth the contract in the beginning of the season, a former uninanimous MVP who carried his team for several years. At least say you were wrong just once
Don't forget Stephen is a black African fella so don't listen to him and his black African lies 😒🚬
he carried his team to where? hes 1-3 in playoffs dude, get off lamar nuts like he mahomes.
@@rafaelisslaam1894 Get off nuts? What kind of childish insult is that? Lol what a shameful response
@@rafaelisslaam1894the goal is the reach the playoffs every year and he does that when healthy. Luck hasn't been on his side but his resume is one of the best in the league right now with mahomes
He wasnt playing well at first. Im a ravens fan and i support lamar, but he's got to get it done. For most fans, we just dont want them to go one and done again after a 2nd 1 seed and a lamar mvp. The ravens have never hosted the afc championship game. The 2 times we could have (06, 19) we lost the first game.
I’m impressed that first take actually decided to be honest and Dan orlovksy I tip my hat to you he was honest and said what everyone tip toes around when it comes to having a conversation about Lamar
Because they can't tell the truth about Lamar because he is a black African fella and if they say he's overrated the black African community will riot 😮🚬
Honest about what? He hasn't won yet and has been awful in the playoffs. Until that changes, the narrative will remain the same and rightfully so. People need to stop playing the race card.
@@davidcastaneda2274 black African folks can't help themselves for playing the black African racist card 🤦🚬
@davidcastaneda2274 🤦🏿 you completely missed the whole point and what Dan was saying....you are the problem right there
@@davidcastaneda2274 y’all really think the whole “using the race card” saying still matters in 2024 after the last 6 yrs all white have been doing is playing the racial victim card 😂😂😂
As the good brother Ocho cinco would say “Child please” 😂😂😂😂
Last time Lamar was in the playoffs he was throwing to guys like Willie Snead, Seth Roberts, and Miles Boykins. Also had a run first OC who couldn't scheme up pass concepts to save his life. Burrow, Hurts, Allen, Purdy, Tua, and Herbert all got weapons on the outside within 2 years of entering the league. Tyreek and Waddle. Chase, Higgins, Boyd. CMC, Deebo, Kittle Ayuik. AJ Brown and Smith. You get the point. Lamar finally got solid weapons on the outside and an OC that understands passing concepts. Lets see what he can do now.
Pure facts!!! I hate when that's ignored or overlooked
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ppl keep sayin herbert has weapons but hes barely above or even = to lamar. There always injured or they have no speed its a possession based offense.
Why do Ravens fans completely forget that Lamar came into the league with Andrews who has been a top 5 TE for years now?
Dan Marino still gets praised with no superbowl rings
That’s the whole point…
Justin Herbert can go 0-17 for next 5 years yet still he won’t get any scrutiny for it.
If you are white man playing WB and have a “good arm” and are a “pocket qb”
You will always get praise for it
But it’s going to hard for Lamar to win for same reason nba didn’t want Iverson to win
The image don’t fit what they want to promote.
How many commercials you see Lamar in ?
How many roughing the passer calls does he get compared to other QBs?
As a ravens and Lamar fan I hope we get it done but I believe in the politics of sports and games are rigged and fixed
I don’t believe Lamar will ever win it all.
Hope I’m wrong tho
@@SeekYourTruth888 agreed...
Right, still has commercials and all!!
LAMAR HAS MORE MVPS THAN MARINO, CASE DISMISSED, I CAN CARE LESS ABOUT MECHANIC AS A THROWER, WIN THE FRICKIN GAME BRO!!!!! WIN WITH LESS!!!!!!!!
Marino gets a ton of criticism for never having won a SB (although at least he got to one and had 8 playoff wins). Both Marino and Jackson are praised for how they performed in the regular season and criticized for how they performed in the postseason. As they should be.
Lamar winning a SB will be the most important/monumental moment in the history for the black QB. Bigger than Doug Williams, bigger than Vick being the #1 pick, even bigger than if Mahomes matches Brady for SB wins. He was told he needed to be a WR in the NFL, called a RB, criticized n told he couldn't negotiate his own contract, etc. Along the way all he's done is be humble, been professional, n exceeded ever expectation. Most impressive part is that Lamar promised he was bringing a SB to Baltimore
Why you acting like he already won the Super Bowl lol
@@larry2281 cuz unless the Ravens play the Chiefs next week they'll win it all. The Bills are gonna win vs KC but they won't beat Baltimore. Ravens have already beat the 49ers n Lions n they'll beat either in the SB. Only way Ravens don't get to the SB is if the Chiefs beat the Bills
Mahomes is Not Black. The World is Not about whites and blacks
I hope he wins it. Let's be honest if he wins it, the bias against QBs like him will have to stop.
Like what?
Right lol like what?@SunShine-xc6dh
You know exactly what he's talking about. Quit it@@SunShine-xc6dh
@@SunShine-xc6dhBlack running QB's... Dont be shallow
Lol it wont. They will just say it was a fluke
Be careful ESPN, you know there's a lot of people who don't wanna hear this conversation 👀
right . was crazy to see them actually be honest
They talk about this stuff a lot.
Sick of people being scared of a conversation all things have to be addressed or wait for it they fester
Because football is the great equalizer, when you see someone put in work and not get his proper due it’s irritating
@@Fqq21they will never give us due. Who cares what they say. I don't want props from those folks
Lamar wins the Super Bowl and MVP he'd be catapulted into top 10 qbs all time. He becomes first ballot immediately.
I believe in Lamar 😤
The African quiter 😅🚬
@goodnightmunchie do you ever take a day off from doing this lol
They always push the goal post when it comes to Lamar
Giving him his black African privilege lmao that black African fella will never win a Superbowl 😄🚬
The goal post has always been to win the superbowl so how could you push it?
@@ghostkid1118come on now you know full well the goalposts are continually shifting with regards to Lamar. “He’s just a running back”, “He should switch to receiver or he won’t be able to play in the NFL”, “He can’t pass the football with accuracy”, “LamaRB”
He from the hood and has the hood behind him….people don’t like that
If Lamar wins a Super Bowl the “not bad for a running back” he’s gonna say will be so legendary
i will cry on God
Lamar needs to win 3 Superbowls. And Two more MVP.
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Bout time y’all started having a real conversation about this! Coming from a show that constantly downs Lamar any chance they get, the same show that asked “was Lamar worth the money” after his receivers dropped 8 passed vs PIT… Stephen A, a known Lamar antagonist, is changing his way of thinking… we are in RARE TIMES!!! The microscope is on Lamar & I’m actually impressed how they all spoke on Lamar & Baltimore. Best segment they’ve ever done!
They are coming up with excuses for Lamar the African quiter Jackson when he folds like a lawn chair this weekend just like black the African turnover machine Prescott 🫡🚬
That take on Lamar about his $$$ from SAS and SS was pure foolishness. LJ is a tough guy. HE SHALL OVERCOME. This is his year.
@@goodnightmunchie yup and we found the problem 😂
Lamar gets glazed more than he gets “downed.” The man is labeled the mvp front runner with mid level stats and no one questions it lmao.
@@larry2281 lmfao if you think that’s glazing imagine the media glazing over HERBERT a guy that’s never won anything, not even one playoff game 😂😂 BUT hey, he’s white… so I guess it’s okay 😂 foh clown
Lamar will win one, I have full believe in him this year.
Getting Mark Andrews back and the addition of Dalvin Cooks just put even more pressure on Lamar to get it done.
Lmao Lamar the black African quiter Jackson will fold like a lawn chair 😅🚬
@@goodnightmunchie🤡
@@goodnightmunchieRacist
Bro is the Allen Iverson of the NFL
Kinda but Lamar is way more quieter than Allen was, he just do what he do and go home.
I'm officially a fan of Dan. Wasn't expecting that great take 👏🏾. I wish he would have stayed inbounds 😂
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Stayed inbounds is CRAZY lmaoooo IYKYK
Well said Dan! Lamar been my fav player in the league cause he represents something that’s just more than himself. Deeper than just football
Why’s that? Just view him for what he is. A great football player.
Stephen A probably pissed because another white guy jumped on a racial topic before him 🤣
lmaoo 10/10 comment
Much respect to this man. He just told the truth, and this goes to a lot of other parts of life itself.
I've said it before. There's a difference between Lamar Jackson & Russell Wilson/Patrick Mahomes. All 3 are black but the last 2 are more corporate black. Lamar Jackson is more hip hop black. Russell & Mahomes have been in so many commercials over the years & only 1 for Lamar to my knowledge. Lamar may resonates more with the youth but he also is hated by mainstream America. Lamar is so hated that he is the clear-cut MVP for this year and many people want to give it to a RB of all people. The same position that people said he should play coming out of college. Mahomes has a white wife who is besties with Taylor Swift of all people. Lamar's best friend is Kodak Black for crying out loud. The image of Lamar is what people hate and its gonna get worse if he hoists that Lombardi at the end of the year
"Lamar is so hated that he is the clear-cut MVP for this year" lol you are clueless, he aint clear cut
Josh Allen is consistently considered a top 3 qb in the nfl. Arguably right behind Patrick Mahomes. He has never even made it to the SB yet Lamar has to win a SB. It’s a shame how much more he has to do than any other qb in the nfl. Even if he wins a SB I could easily see them saying just one lucky year with a great defense. Every time he does something great the media finds a way to move the goal posts.
facts...
This is what happens when you try to act like he is the greatest, then go win in the playoffs
@@mikko3 you whites are so threatened by black superiority that yall judge black men with no context...
God please help LJ, the whole Ravens Organization get to the superbowl and win it
God doesnt care about Football
@jamesdorsey2526 Yes God does care about Football and if you go against God you will be in trouble
@@adrianbooze2107 read your bible
@jamesdorsey2526 I do read the Bible sir God, Family and Football thank you
@@adrianbooze2107 Then you would know that God is not concerned with the traditions of men
Holding that rookie playoff game against him is nasty work 😂
NFL made Vick cut his braids to look more “professional”
Lamar is the guy I use to create on NCAA and Madden back in the day, I appreciate just getting to watch him develop and play, he's my favorite NFL player ever.
This is what fans have been trying to get the media to understand since day 1. Glad Lamar is finally getting his flowers
No pun intended
this conversation is stupid, lamar is the only qb that has to win a super bowl in order to be validated, not allen, not herbert, not lawrence, not burrow; this is really just coded language that if lamar doesn't win a super bowl then black qbs should no longer be drafted in the nfl...
I give Dan credit for being honest. Issues like this need to be openly acknowledged and TALKED ABOUT. Pretending like it's not happening just makes it WORSE. Lamar's abilities ARE discounted because he doesn't fit the traditional Super Bowl winning QB profile. Which is first and foremost WHITE. That must CHANGE. I pray that this Super Bowl is a solid step in the right direction for PROGRESS.
Nah man quit the race card nonsense. It’s cringe. There are doubters and criticisms for quite literally every QB regardless of race I hope you realize that.
@@larry2281 I didn't speak on this. Dan, a White man, felt the need to and did speak on this uncomfortable issue. Other broadcasters participated in the discussion. ESPN videoed what they said and posted it on CZcams. I merely responded. And we all find this discussion to be cringe.
But tell you what, if you really want to know how cringe feels, try being a recipient of discriminatory treatment. 😂 The fact that people like you would even dare to speak out and try to deny reality and squelch the truth is proof itself that we need to keep talking about this and calling it out at every opportunity, in every venue and on every platform. Rather than being silent about it and trying to pretend it's not happening, instead, shout it to the rooftops - LET US ALL STOP TREATING PEOPLE BADLY BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT!
You're a joke. The winning quarterback for 3 of the last five Super Bowls was bi racial. Whoops, there goes your racist narrative.
@@RMMomma4Eva Patrick Mahomes isn't white and he's won 3 of the last 5 Super Bowls and was named MVP in each one. So much for your racial identity politics.
@@Sirharryflash82 He is White. He is biracial. Both White and Black. He has a White mother, a White wife, White children and White siblings as well. He is not Black, he is both and that is not the same thing. He and Lamar Jackson are in no way the same. Patrick is only Black to White people looking for an acceptable Black. One whom they can stomach allowing into their hallowed spaces. To try to reinvoke the one drop rule on Patrick Mahomes' behalf to appease unambiguous Black people shows, at best, how tone deaf your argument is. Read the room. You're clueless.
I love my QB and what he stands for!! Baltimore embracing him from Day 1 has been great. I want him to win it all this year.......and then another one just to REALLY shut people up!!
Seattle, Detroit, LA Rams, Jacksonville, San Francisco, and Miami were games that would make or break his career from here on out!!
He beat the brakes off of all of those teams his own way and I love it. My Ravens are a team of destiny to win it all this year
Lmao Lamar the black African quiter Jackson is overrated just because he is a black African fella just look at his playoff record even black the African turnover machine Prescott has a better record 🤨🚬
In y'all will win so congrats, I called this year in I'ma eagles fan . This is y'all year in I'm happy for Lamar a real one of us if you know what I mean ! I think he just need to get y'all to the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP game cause he haven't did that yet it's steps to it but y'all beat the bills and that lift y'all to the Superbowl cause Josh Allen a walking turn over ! RAVENS SUPERBOWL CHAMPS ALREADY IN GOT A CHANCE TO GO BACK2BACK
Crazy how CZcams removed my comments calling out that racist dude, yet his comments are standing strong. We all know why, I'm getting really sick of these racist idiots and sick of the way media/the system openly supports and encourages them 😂
Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the league this year. I don't care what narrative a racist tries to spin, he is the MVP and he is that dude period
@@goodnightmunchie you act like Patrick Mahomes not black
Definitely got a chuckle out this because Miss K-Mart sure did struggle with her own point when Cam Newton simply stated an opinion on a few QBs
Lol LJ already a HOFer, this SB will be icing on the cake!! LFG Ravens!!!
@jrs6657 Youngest ever 2x MVP and in a 6 yr span is a pretty high standard ...but whatever you say dawg.
he need a SB & he a HOFer for sure
Can’t be a hofer if you’ve only won one playoff game
@@ArtJrAntunez 2x Mvp in 6yrs.
@@shaquanscott7043 yet has nothing to show in the playoffs 🤣
The blatant hatred and disrespect to Lamar makes the story a lot better with the evolution of the game. He’s literally your favorite player’s favorite player because people who play the game want the game to evolve but nfl fans don’t because most are ignorant
there is a stigma in football against black QBs and Coaches. Lamar's expectations are unfairly high.
Bro everyone's expectations have always been to win a superbowl if he wins one people are gonna have the shut up but so far he hasn't
Really? Because it seems like the only ones who get criticized are the ones who lose in the playoffs. No one is criticizing the winners. If Lamar wins the Super Bowl, all that criticism of him will go away.
D.O kept it 1000. Gotta appreciate how he watched his words but said what was real
Why is “style of play” never a question for Josh Allen?
Because they dont play the same, Josh Allen play style is similiar to Mahomes not to Jackson
But keep going, you will one day be able to be a victim
@@mikko3 as you will be able to wear your white hood in public again.
I agree 100% First Take took a huge stand to get on their platform and speak the honest truth about Lamar. They were so honest and right it go a little cringe knowing it’s going to rub people the wrong way. Well, it needed to be said.
SAS should have just listened this entire segment, he was one of the main people they were talking about.
LETS GO LAMAR YOU GOT THIS!!!! GO KILL IT SATURDAY 🎉
The real problem is a certain group is not supposed to be in positions of authority.
Witness what this young black man has overcome to achieve! Tip my hat to him
Had to overcome? He had been hyped up ever since he was 15
He got his bag 💰, now it's time for Lamar to win the ring. I'm pulling for him
Right but you know how this goes , white guy wins the WWE title Everytime 😂 #message !
Great conversation by all involved. Don’t usually agree with SAS takes on Lamar Jackson but he made complete sense. Wish FT had more great conversations like these more often. great listen
I agree 1000000000% with every word! SAS usually has little good to say about Lamar... but now, he's talking sense. Very surprised... definitely a great listen
@@slim0815naw, eff SAS , he Said what he said previous takes, regarding his Contract, his throwing, They all phonies
@@slim0815 i’m a ravens fan so I rarely like hearing what ESPN has to say about Lamar/Ravens but I watched this video a couple times while working just bc it was a good listen. fw how it was a reasonable convo by all with no negative takes
The problem is you don’t have to worry about what people say because one person doesn’t win a Super Bowl by themselves. The team has to win the Super Bowl
Thank you.
This is by far you all's the best take
Dan taking the bullet to explain it to people who may look like him and don’t understand. Shout out Dan on that one. Great topic
Well said yall. Great takes on this subject.
Kimberly you need to apologize to Cam Newton
Ima Giants Fan and im 100% Rooting for Lamar since day 1 he has been hated on and downplayed all b/c of how he looks talks and plays the game and time after time he proves everyone Wrong Go win that Bowl Lamar💯
Dan you've open a conversation thats been muffled for to long.... thanks for the bravery an compassion you showed on this topic, i salute you 💯👍🏼
Herbert blowing a 27-0 lead to a debuting core in the offs: "defense is trash, coach is hot garbage, washed d"
Lamar losing against a great Defense with miles Boykin and willie Snead: "RB, choker, not Quarterbacky" joe brr missing the entire season "The Oline doesn't help, unlucky, not too much talent around him"
Lamar missing 7 games "injury prone, you can't trust his ability to stay healthy, won't play too much years" when Allen rushes for 50y: "IMPRESSIVE, freak of nature, special"
When Lamar runs for 60 (more impressive): "RB, can't throw, runner"
No one is acting like Herbert or Allen are the greatest. Yall want to hype and that blacky so much then go prove it or stfu
Y’all slob on Josh Allen what superbowl has he won?
It’s crazy because if Lamar puts on an all world performance and the team could lose and ppl will still call him a loser. Peyton manning wasn’t this good this early in the league. He couldn’t win without playing a team with no qb, and then once he was traded. Peyton didn’t win till his career was nearly over. The bias is crazy against him. He’s not even 27 yet.
Its not bias, maybe blacks and ravens fans should then stop acting like he is the goat. Live up to it or stfu
@@mikko3 Peyton manning was considered the best while Brady won his first 3 super bowls. It’s about impact. Peyton did more than Brady, and got more credit for his 1st Super Bowl than Brady got for his 3. Also black ppl just support black athletes. Lamar is doing more, and is force to do more than any other player in the league on offense. He caught a pass deflection and ran it for 10 yards. Actually ran the ball, passed the ball. You can’t out play your offensive coordinator. They were playing like this was madden. And they brought back mark andrews and it slowed down the team. I don’t see your comments in the Josh Allen is the goat….convos. Also Patrick Mahommes is black. The goat is still black 😂 we ain’t pressed because of race. It’s the nfl. 80% of the league is black
Respect to you all having this conversation the elephant in the room needed to be addressed
I can not wait to hear all of the excuses and mental gymnastics when Lamar wins a Super Bowl. You just know certain people will trip over themselves trying to marginalize it because he has the audacity to be a successful, athletic Black quarterback. Also, major respect to Dan for speaking on that. We need more people who look like him to speak out.
He’s not gonna win though sadly
Steven A. you were one of the media critizing Lamar for representing himself. Stop with the bs old boy, you are the system not an exception, Lamar is and will be the best qb next to Mahomes.
We love you #8 what you did from the day Bobby Petrino your coach told you to go out and return a punt till today is simply incredible - and let’s be clear - he gotta BAG and PLAYED BETTER- no one ever mentions the other QBs including DAN himself who haven’t had half the careers he has already had - he is being talked about because everyone knows he is ELITE - go make that promise you made on draft night come true young man 🐦⬛
If my chiefs dont get it done i hope its the ravens. I believe in Lamar.
Chiefs? They bout to lose this weekend lol
Your just saying that because he is a black African fella look at his playoff record worse than black the African turnover machine Prescott record 😅🚬
@@goodnightmunchieOk racist
It's a crying shame Stephen A. Smith...it took a white man, Dan Orlovsky, to say what black America has been saying since this young man was drafted. You, Stephen A. Smith, were one of his biggest detractors! Show some guts and admit it because all of America has you on tape saying some of the same stuff that the rest of his critics said. This young man has done nothing but win..the best winning percentage of any QB in his draft class. I'm disappointed Stephen A (Shannon Sharp too) ...your research department (or the show's producer) has been stressing Jackson's shortcomings at every opportunity. Why not tell America that Lamar Jackson and Peyton Manning have the SAME RECORD in their first 4 playoff games!! Now you're on national TV deferring to Dan Orlovsky, saying what you should have been saying since day 1! I love you my brother....respect you tremendously, but you dropped the 🤨ball on this one!
Joe Burrow went to the SuperBowl & didn’t win just like Hurts did but y’all still sing his praises 😂 Josh Allen never been to one, Herbert never got close to one but y’all constantly try to push this narrative that those guys are significantly better than him at the position & thats false.
FACTS...
Only one who is pushing that narrative are blacks and ravens fans. Yall want to hype up Lamar so bad like he is the jesus, prove it or stfu
There was a glass ceiling but Lamar is shattering it in spite of all the opposition. History will reflect the negative and positive teatment he recieved and it will add to the lore.
DO really killed this segment. Talking about the elephant in the room needs to be done more
Lamar Jackson 2024 💜🖤
Elway, Manning, Farve, etc won after being in the league for 7 years or more. Everyone doesn't get a ring early in their careers. TEAM sport...
This is so true people would praise Watson before his issues. They put everyone else up against Mahomes as the new rivalry when Lamar has the hardware. They don’t like what Lamar represents. Close your eyes you don’t have to guess if Hes black or not.
He isn’t a good qb he is a running qb it not because he’s black he’s a great player just a very overrated thrower of the football
Nah I hope lamar wins a ring if not Mahomes but he has simply underperformed in the playoffs. Once again He has an elite team, he must win it this year.
@@crystalsaria5625your football knowledge is suspect
@@SamuelMills-ez4jo this is literally the first time in LAMAR era you can say the ravens defense is elite. Previous years the defense was led by the number one rushing team. We used to dominate time of possession. Never played while trailing. All of that puts you in favorable positions defensively. offensively the ravens issue has always been NO ADJUSTMENTS. Lamar has repeatedly shown frustration on the sideline when Greg Roman was the OC.
@@Jefe6622 um I know football I just go by what I see and n the playoffs he chokes that’s not a good qb plus he throws the football worse in the playoffs so yea he isn’t a good qb
D.O is invited to the cookout 😂
Dan nailed that segment, we did not need to hear anything from the others!
Dan Orlovsky on the money again ❤
SAS Is his biggest critic! 😂
Lamar is the most electric player in the NFL to watch ! There has never been anyone who has single handedly been as beneficial to bringing wins to his team. It's been very unfortunate that with his kind of abilities, the Raven's haven't been able to do more up till now ! I think if Harb's had been more of a mastermind type coach, the 2019 season would have ended with, at the very least, a Superbowl appearance !
I truly think the only thing that can hold this team back this year would be poor coaching decisions. But l think lessons have been learned, and the Raven's will at least be in the big show this year !
At the end of the day he's 1-3 in the playoffs all while throwing for more Interceptions than TDs it's not about being black or white 🙄
at the end of the day u are white.
Ask yourself this - when has Josh been called a running back? And why aren't more people publicly and enthusiastically pulling for Lamar to win the Super Bowl, given his stellar performance this year - versus constantly being pessimistic and bringing up what happened almost 5 years past? Hmm.
Lamar Jackson has a chance to have a Allen iverson effect on the NFL he can definitely change the narrative he’s a perfect example of given a chance I can do the same or better
Yes LJ8 does need to win the Superbowl and it starts Saturday
3:57 "Blatant racism" that's enough. It's a game, and there's been many praised Black NFL athletes more or equally as cherished as other players. It's the way Lamar plays is why he's questioned since it's been seen untraditional for a qb to play like him over the years. Not everything is racism
Yep, Vick, RG3 and Newton failed. People try to hype people like those are the future but they dont win
No kidding, if he wins the SB this year he needs to say "not bad for a running back"
Helluva take Dan speaking all facts 🔥
Kimberly need to answer back to cam bc cam said all these other qb that got eliminated are game managers why she even up here
I'm a Lamar apologist and you are absolutely right Kimberley Martin.
DAN DROPPING BIG FACTS
Race baiting kinda
Be careful K Mar, you speaking too much truth
What’s crazy is I seen so many black men also say Lamar wouldn’t win a SB. And now I’m understanding that statement come from a well polished forced thought out on sports fan. Lamar winning this Super Bowl will open the eyes and mind of sooo many ppl. Children…grown men..his peers. Those of all different nationalities. I already know without a doubt this SB with many more belongs to Lamar Jackson & the Ravens. And we know God is going to get all the credit. Now we just sit back and watch greatness unfold 🤍❤️
Same argument you should’ve taken into consideration for Cam Newton, Kimberly. Carolina never BUILT around Cam.
Doesn’t matter what Lamar does because either way if he wins one it’s because the team carried him if he loses it’s because he’s a rb regardless of whatever stats he has that game
it is a team effort to win a superbowl either way
Sounds a lot like Purdy. Niners win it’s his weapons, they lose it’s all Purdy.
No, that's you all victimizing Lamar over and over and over
@@Evilminiature yup all year they said that purdy kept proving the haters wrong
@@ravensfan21223unless they win then it will be because of Lamar the African quiter Jackson but if they lose it will be because of the team 😊🚬
I thought coming out of Louisville he was gonna be it. I think that is playoff performance needs to be better but I wouldn’t think that he can’t win it all. I think that his size and mobility is the perfect combo.
Great commentary Dan.
I’m from Houston so I’m pulling for the Texans. But I’ve lived in the DMV since 2009 and if the ravens happen to beat us Saturday I hope Lamar and the ravens win it all.
Disney ESPN racebaiting again hahahah
Why does Josh Allen not get the same criticism. Let’s see if you will do a show on Allen has to win a superbowl
Did josh win MVP 2x? Or go 14-2? Oh yeah your just trying to make more racist comments like these race baiting mfs
@@mambalevel1017 you missed the whole point u racist.
Because people dont act like he is the greatest
@@mikko3 they have said he's better than lamar. Gtfoh
@@Trina78 Because he is, but they aint saying he is the greatest. Yall blacks have been trying to claim people like Vick and RG3 are superior but they aint, just accept it already. Go be a rb and you might win something, i got decades of evidence and all you have is feelings.
One of the best segments ever... Let's talk about it
You are one hundred percent right. Its good to see that Dan understands because when I talk sports with my dudes they dont get it.
Yeah idk about that take Orlov.
The whole point is that black quarterbacks aren't just runners . And they are taking over the league.
Taking over?😂
@@brandonohara4122yes they are
Lamar is a runner before passer. He doesn't have the arm a lot of the great black QBs have.
@@jordanb.8746 ummm no, they're not. And you sound like you're race baiting
@@brandonohara4122 my comment was 3 words... How? Almost or half of the starting QB's are of African decent and that includes your beloved Patrick Mahomes
Enough of this race narrative. ESPN at it again, good Lord.
The black African community is always playing the victim card because of their failures 😄🚬
Well once race isn't a factor then we won't need to talk about it 🤔
I know yOu DoNt SeE cOloR. Stfu
@@Pilts82top paid QBs are black, in this segment 2 black hosts, most of other shows have black analyst/hosts but let’s keep beating the drum with race all the time. Enough of this poor me mentality, yeah there was big time racism back then but things are way different now. All this diversity, inclusion BS, and poor me mentality is what’s wrong. I’m part of a minority and boggles my mind how stupid all these race baiters sound.
@@Pilts82 It isnt, its all about playstyle which isnt about race. Why is Wilson or Mahomes rated but they are black? Sorry cant be the victim, i know you are used to it
ESPN thank you for this. Others will deny this but its apparent to us.
I cant believe Stephen A said that on EsPN at the end. Lmao!!!!!!!