Thanks mate. I'm loving the dragon at the moment. Lots of fun and an enjoyable rc to own. I'll try the fronts on the rear only at some point for sure. Cheers👍
Thumbs up, looks like those extenders have helped reduce side bite roll overs, maybe a V3 dragon hammer will be released with wider axles and front arms
jammer2150 maybe..... the v2 has wider rear hubs and different front arms compared to my v1.... but I've not ran one so I don't know if it's helped. As u say these wide extenders have definitely helped with the side bite roll overs. Interested to see how it works out on rough terrain with xmaxx wheels on....👍 thanks for the comm mate. Appreciated. 😁
funny story directly after watching this vid I got the bug to run my kraken....and u list a pin just as you did...but with no extras around I just stuck in a quick fix and back off braaapping! but thought of this vid as I went off to tear it up!!! and tuning is about listening to the engine...tuning the low end is done at idle...you'll want a nice easy popping not a high revving sound..if wheels are moving during tuning low end back off very slowly until they stop moving and don't touch...tuning high end (h) must be done with throttle open will be a little tough while running machine but the ear will be your friend you can hear if your adjuestments are working if machine bogs down slowly back,off until it doesn't and boom!!! perfect tune!!! check for air leaks constantly these machine vibrate a lot!! and try to stay off full throttle for king periods!!! good luck!
You've probably solved this problem but my suggestion would be to tap in some short set screws on both sides of the pin. This way you don't have to pound in and out a thicker pin. I thought about doing that on my DHK Maximus. One concern I had about the thought was balance. On the other hand, set screws are hollow and light, the weight difference of the pin and the removed metal from taping it, might be negligible. ( By weight of the pin, I mean that the pin is now shorter where the set screw is now taking up the space where the pin previously occupied.)
Yes it handles 100% better in the turns coming from hi speeds, the one down side that I see is it takes away the scale look by being so wide and you cannot use the stock rims for that scale look , but it handles way better than the stock setup. good job mate😉
BIGGBULLxxx thanks mate. Yeah it seemed to handle well. I'm not sure that with the camber and toe setup I'm using even stick it would have been decent. I'll have to do some stock running too to check. There are always pros n cons aren't there.... 👍
Looking good shame the pin came loose but kn the plus you found it more than I can say for when I lost the inner standoff for my IRP links for the 5b. I noticed she seems to have amazing braking power. have you adventured into the diffs yet? I've finally finished school for good a couple of weeks ago and will be starting my apprenticeship soon so I might be saving for a DH once I've got the rear diff case from Rob. recently picked up his front case and full drive train set so I'm awaiting those, great video.
behemothfan666 fuck the Pope hi mate. No ive not gone anywhere near the diffs yet. Luck about the pin for sure. Got orings on now. Breaking wise... yes it's a strong point of the dragon ... very good brakes!!!! I like my brakes to b less powerful too so they are actually a bit toned down compared to how they could be. Stephen runs his with string brakes ... I find I need less power letting me run a touch smoother....😁
RC Maxx UK if the brakes are that good I wonder what the FID ones are like for the 5ive.. oh and I forgot to say have you seen Spents DH twin build on BFUK?
Lucky find in the chassis! I made a magnet bar to drag around the area in the event of metal part loss... Axle extenders work good - do you think they make much difference to the wear on your bearings/drive axle etc?
G Hibbert yes v lucky! 😁 the axle extenders do work well, in that terrain at least. I don't know yet if they effect durability of other surrounding parts.... maybe in time that will become apparent. The drive shafts they attach to are very solid and thick and the bearings are a good size so I'm hopefully those parts will take the extra side forces applied to them. In a big crash situation there will be more leverage for sure so it will be more vulnerable. I'll get more of a proper off road bash vid done soon which should highlight durability a bit more. Cheers. 👍👍
I have a few sets of axle extenders that were made for me, the same material as the ones you purchase from a hobby shop, so no difference there, But I have had no troubles what so ever on my big heavy duty 1/5 scale in full race mode and I run them hard up in Northern Canada on the track or just out for fun with friends jumping and bashing around, Never had a fault with the extenders on any buggy, truggy , anything despite the only problems i ever had was a king pin coming loose or ripping a tire from the rim, other then that they are a great hop up to put on, gives you a better wider stance whether you are out to race or just back yard bashing, They are well worth the amount you pay for them versus what you get out of them, Thanks RC Max enjoyed watching videos you did of vehicles I run myself and others do also here where I live on the track come race day, Bear.
crazyRC world yes mate, agreed. I will jump it for sure. Next run out it'll b on xmaxx wheels most probably at the quarry. That should test their durability quite well....👍
I have not really had a chance to look at a rampage close up. i would say though that the rampage is not really of the same quality of the dragon hammer. That said I like the look of the rampage ( redcat) or maverick blackout here in the UK. rtr around £650 i think..... its a big truck for the money... things like the body for example are cheap and flimsy... an MT needs a cage surely????? 1 bad crash and that body is done! pity as its got positives as a platform i'm sure....thanks for the comm mate ;)
Okay. I have a rampage MT Pro with the 32cc engine in it and so far to be honest have had to replace a few things so far and am in the middle of still breaking it in. Do you know where I might get the Dragon Hammer at a lower cost than the 1500.00 US $ I can get the engine and servo and transmitter here in States much cheaper.
Was also wondering if you have to undo all metal to metal screws and put blue Loctite on them to keep from falling apart or coming undone like on the rampage.
Hi mate. i don't know of a US supplier I'm afraid. you could contact rcmodelz here in the uk for advice. they are very helpful. I did not lock tight anything apart form engine installation parts. its well put together.
Yugo Boss hi mate. These are extra wide extenders from rcmodelz for the hpi baja. They had to be drilled out a touch for the bigger dragon pins. They do a wider fid extender set now too. Expensive though. Losi5t extenders also fit. Cheers. 👍
Oh you need a race clutch and dump that old 2 shoe clutch design way better ones out there l use the turtle snapper on my Baja 5b unreal l will never go back 👍
Agreed!... i ran it last sunday and the takeoff is really poor. need at least a spring that will allow it to rev up b4 it engages. clutch i need to sort!
Tyge Vonsbaek hi mate. I have never tried a vek 5 sadly. I’d love to of course. The extenders definitely made the dragon more stable. Mine was a v1 model, the v2 comes with wider hubs as standard. Billet alloy. I’d disagree myself from what I have seen re quality and what you get for your money. The dragon comes with all the so called “upgrades “ you would want as standard with servos and a zen320 while for that price u would only get a vek5 std roller. ( in the uk at least) you would then need to spend out 1k maybe to get a vek5 to the spec of a dragon v2. Both rcs have their pros n cons no doubt! I like both tbh. 👌🏽
Handels pretty nice! with the extenders on there. Thanks for sharing!
paintendave Extreme Collision thanks buddy. 👍
Nice dragon. I want one. :)
I agree with you about swapping the front extenders for the rear ones.
Thanks mate. I'm loving the dragon at the moment. Lots of fun and an enjoyable rc to own. I'll try the fronts on the rear only at some point for sure. Cheers👍
Thumbs up, looks like those extenders have helped reduce side bite roll overs, maybe a V3 dragon hammer will be released with wider axles and front arms
jammer2150 maybe..... the v2 has wider rear hubs and different front arms compared to my v1.... but I've not ran one so I don't know if it's helped. As u say these wide extenders have definitely helped with the side bite roll overs. Interested to see how it works out on rough terrain with xmaxx wheels on....👍 thanks for the comm mate. Appreciated. 😁
Those breaks are real good!
funny story directly after watching this vid I got the bug to run my kraken....and u list a pin just as you did...but with no extras around I just stuck in a quick fix and back off braaapping! but thought of this vid as I went off to tear it up!!! and tuning is about listening to the engine...tuning the low end is done at idle...you'll want a nice easy popping not a high revving sound..if wheels are moving during tuning low end back off very slowly until they stop moving and don't touch...tuning high end (h) must be done with throttle open will be a little tough while running machine but the ear will be your friend you can hear if your adjuestments are working if machine bogs down slowly back,off until it doesn't and boom!!! perfect tune!!! check for air leaks constantly these machine vibrate a lot!! and try to stay off full throttle for king periods!!! good luck!
*I lost
*long
jerbino great advice mate. Cheers. 👍👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Looking better no roll sweet
Son Hall cheers buddy. Yeah it certainly seems better now. 😁
You've probably solved this problem but my suggestion would be to tap in some short set screws on both sides of the pin. This way you don't have to pound in and out a thicker pin. I thought about doing that on my DHK Maximus. One concern I had about the thought was balance. On the other hand, set screws are hollow and light, the weight difference of the pin and the removed metal from taping it, might be negligible. ( By weight of the pin, I mean that the pin is now shorter where the set screw is now taking up the space where the pin previously occupied.)
awesome kid nice ride
Yes it handles 100% better in the turns coming from hi speeds, the one down side that I see is it takes away the scale look by being so wide and you cannot use the stock rims for that scale look , but it handles way better than the stock setup. good job mate😉
BIGGBULLxxx thanks mate. Yeah it seemed to handle well. I'm not sure that with the camber and toe setup I'm using even stick it would have been decent. I'll have to do some stock running too to check. There are always pros n cons aren't there.... 👍
Awesome video, but WE WANT MORE OF THIS QUICK!
Har3aza thanks mate. 👍👍 more to come. 😁
Well nice dragon use some heat shrink on the hub extender to cover the pin 👍
Looking good shame the pin came loose but kn the plus you found it more than I can say for when I lost the inner standoff for my IRP links for the 5b. I noticed she seems to have amazing braking power. have you adventured into the diffs yet?
I've finally finished school for good a couple of weeks ago and will be starting my apprenticeship soon so I might be saving for a DH once I've got the rear diff case from Rob. recently picked up his front case and full drive train set so I'm awaiting those, great video.
behemothfan666 fuck the Pope hi mate. No ive not gone anywhere near the diffs yet. Luck about the pin for sure. Got orings on now. Breaking wise... yes it's a strong point of the dragon ... very good brakes!!!! I like my brakes to b less powerful too so they are actually a bit toned down compared to how they could be. Stephen runs his with string brakes ... I find I need less power letting me run a touch smoother....😁
RC Maxx UK if the brakes are that good I wonder what the FID ones are like for the 5ive.. oh and I forgot to say have you seen Spents DH twin build on BFUK?
behemothfan666 fuck the Pope no mate not seen it. Sounds well worth a look though. Cheers👍
Nice...
Team Awesome cheers mate. 👍
Great handling. Didn't roll once!
yes mate... it did make a difference for sure. the newest dragon hammer comes with a wider stance... and handles better i hear! ;)
RC Maxx UK how much are you talking for a new dragon hammer and how much is an average cost of a second hand one?
I believe UK prices they are £1000 roller new, £1500 with engine and servos. used varies. £600 up depending on what u r getting i'd guess
RC Maxx UK thanks mate.. think I need to start saving! Lol!
Where did you get clear front mud guard?
Hi mate lee lozi palmer ;)
Video at 3min. I thought they have Orings for that so that you won't lose them. that is why you got the groove in there isn.t it?
I think it should all Ready be that wide, so the after market should have the rear and the front be that wide
Without the extenders
love the channel.. I do think you fellas should go back to the old intro as it got the attention of the viewers. Keep up the good work!
KrustyRc thanks mate. Appreciate the input👍 I'll make a new intro/ mod the old 1. Why not!? Cheers. 😁
Put rubber o ring over the pin will stop them from coming out
Yeah put the front extenders on all 4 corners
Lucky find in the chassis! I made a magnet bar to drag around the area in the event of metal part loss... Axle extenders work good - do you think they make much difference to the wear on your bearings/drive axle etc?
G Hibbert yes v lucky! 😁 the axle extenders do work well, in that terrain at least. I don't know yet if they effect durability of other surrounding parts.... maybe in time that will become apparent. The drive shafts they attach to are very solid and thick and the bearings are a good size so I'm hopefully those parts will take the extra side forces applied to them. In a big crash situation there will be more leverage for sure so it will be more vulnerable. I'll get more of a proper off road bash vid done soon which should highlight durability a bit more. Cheers. 👍👍
Nice one, look forward to that - Enjoying your channel mate - keep it up.
I have a few sets of axle extenders that were made for me, the same material as the ones you purchase from a hobby shop, so no difference there, But I have had no troubles what so ever on my big heavy duty 1/5 scale in full race mode and I run them hard up in Northern Canada on the track or just out for fun with friends jumping and bashing around, Never had a fault with the extenders on any buggy, truggy , anything despite the only problems i ever had was a king pin coming loose or ripping a tire from the rim, other then that they are a great hop up to put on, gives you a better wider stance whether you are out to race or just back yard bashing, They are well worth the amount you pay for them versus what you get out of them, Thanks RC Max enjoyed watching videos you did of vehicles I run myself and others do also here where I live on the track come race day,
Bear.
cheers
hi mate, northern Canada!, wow, great to hear from you and thanks for the advice, kind words. cheers
Put some o- rings on the hubs to stop the pins coming out
Where does one find spots like these with wide open fields with perfectly cut grass and nobody being around?
hey bud you should jump the puppy to test those extender hubs. keep the good work
crazyRC world yes mate, agreed. I will jump it for sure. Next run out it'll b on xmaxx wheels most probably at the quarry. That should test their durability quite well....👍
put tie wraps round ur pins works well ,,
dominick harding nice1 for that advice mate. 👍
NPS M8, I DO IT WITH MINE ,WORKS REALLY WELL,,
just wondering why the DRAGON WITH ALL THE STUFF TO MAKE IT RUN COST 2300.00 US DOLLARS AND THE RAMPAGE ONLY COST 1100.00 ?
I have not really had a chance to look at a rampage close up. i would say though that the rampage is not really of the same quality of the dragon hammer. That said I like the look of the rampage ( redcat) or maverick blackout here in the UK. rtr around £650 i think..... its a big truck for the money... things like the body for example are cheap and flimsy... an MT needs a cage surely????? 1 bad crash and that body is done! pity as its got positives as a platform i'm sure....thanks for the comm mate ;)
Okay. I have a rampage MT Pro with the 32cc engine in it and so far to be honest have had to replace a few things so far and am in the middle of still breaking it in. Do you know where I might get the Dragon Hammer at a lower cost than the 1500.00 US $ I can get the engine and servo and transmitter here in States much cheaper.
Was also wondering if you have to undo all metal to metal screws and put blue Loctite on them to keep from falling apart or coming undone like on the rampage.
Hi mate. i don't know of a US supplier I'm afraid. you could contact rcmodelz here in the uk for advice. they are very helpful. I did not lock tight anything apart form engine installation parts. its well put together.
Who makes those extensions? They are nice
Yugo Boss hi mate. These are extra wide extenders from rcmodelz for the hpi baja. They had to be drilled out a touch for the bigger dragon pins. They do a wider fid extender set now too. Expensive though. Losi5t extenders also fit. Cheers. 👍
Why do all the 1/5 scale builds seem to only run around on grass? Grab some terrain boys.
Even if I was given one of these for free I wouldn’t want to drive it because it would get dirty
Needs lower gears
tune was too rich....didn't you notice all the white smoke? h valve too open...close it off abit
jerbino agreed. It's on stock settings mate. I will lean off the h a little next run out. Cheers. 👍
Oh you need a race clutch and dump that old 2 shoe clutch design way better ones out there l use the turtle snapper on my Baja 5b unreal l will never go back 👍
Agreed!... i ran it last sunday and the takeoff is really poor. need at least a spring that will allow it to rev up b4 it engages. clutch i need to sort!
Keith Ryan that true until u put a 14 hp twin in and the snapper clutch is history
So now it drives just like the Vekta only it’s uglier and poorer quality 😱
Tyge Vonsbaek hi mate. I have never tried a vek 5 sadly. I’d love to of course. The extenders definitely made the dragon more stable. Mine was a v1 model, the v2 comes with wider hubs as standard. Billet alloy. I’d disagree myself from what I have seen re quality and what you get for your money. The dragon comes with all the so called “upgrades “ you would want as standard with servos and a zen320 while for that price u would only get a vek5 std roller. ( in the uk at least) you would then need to spend out 1k maybe to get a vek5 to the spec of a dragon v2. Both rcs have their pros n cons no doubt! I like both tbh. 👌🏽
Seems like it's to slow I like kraken.5 better