Horse Pasture - Getting Fence Installed With The Ford 8n And Auger
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- Making progress on the horse pasture. We should have this little pasture done in a day or 2. Using our Ford 8n and a 3 point attachment auger we dug fence post holes today and got the most of the posts tamped in.
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When I was digging holes with my 8N I only let the auger go down half way, pulled it, then down 3/4, up again, and finally finished the hole.
I really love how encouraging you guys are with the kids...and including them in the work is so important. Great job!
We have a welded "A" frame on our 8N auger arm with cross-bracing. Works similar to your "boot" design with one change; The length of the leg can be changed. So we can let the auger dig a 1' hole, then allow it to go deeper in increments of 1'. The "A" frame straddles the PTO and gives a more stable footing with no sway once the auger is digging. If we need to do a line of fencing we'll shoot a laser line and use spray chalk for each post. We can drive down the line and pop clean 1' holes along the line. We spin around and shorten the A frame legs another 12" and dig each hole a bit deeper. As we move forward we can inspect the holes as we go for roots, rocks, etc. We have issues with roots here and sometimes rocks. Our 8N hydraulic pump isn't what it used to be. So you work with what you got. Good job!!
Thats awesome! Sounds like a great plan!! Thank you!
I remember helping my dad and uncle setting posts for barbed wire. Been many years but I'm pretty sure the corner post were installed first, wire was laid on the ground and pulled snug. Post holes were drilled where the wire was laying then post put into the holes. Wire was pulled tight then each post set with dirt and plumbed with a level. Once all post were set the variance was never more than a few inches along the run. If you set your line with rope the same applies. With the fence you're installing there is a stretcher made for it but rent if possible. Looks like you and the family had fun and that's the best thing to have no matter what the job. Be well!
Thank you very much for the info! While I really dislike putting fences in I am kind fo looking forward to doing it again. We have learned a lot. Thanks for stopping by and commenting! - Mike
Love that you got the kids involved, it wasn’t the hardest work but maybe it helped them appreciate what your family has and what it takes a little more
Thank you! They have been hands on with so many things here, hopefully it sticks with them. Thanks for watching!
Good little helpers love it
Thank you!
thanks brother. getting an 8n on Thursday and running about 500 yards of fence. trying to get it done before 2nd baby due in March and this video helped a lot. especially by showing the headaches i might run into and how to overcome them. thanks and cheers
Congrats on the baby man!! Really cool. I'm glad you found this useful. While we "strive" at NOT being a "how to channel" lol..it is great to hear when people find stuff useful. I love my 8n. I think I will probably always have it even if I do "upgrade" some day. Let me know how the 8n works out and how putting the fence in goes! - Mike
There are 4 bolt holes running along the underside of the auger spine connecting the 3 point linkage mount. Unbolt it from the 4th hole and reattach it to the 1st hole near your makeshift leg. This is the part of the design that will fix your problem. Its called mechanical advantage.
Thank you very much!!!
I just stumbled on this old video. You really gave that old Ford a workout.
Ha! Thanks!! And thank you for dropping by and commenting!
Fun watching Faith lift the poles like TJ. She's tough like her Mama! Jenny is a powerhouse with that hole digger.
Watching y'all move that string around was funny. Not straight huh? Hahahah. What a great family.
Not a "How To", but a "How We". Awesome stuff right there. You're all video naturals.
Thanks for another great episode!
+MiMi's front Porch Jeni is awesome and does not hesitate to get in there and work hard, get dirty, and get the job done. Thank you very much for the compliments.
Pratt fam you guys rock. I love my 8n. I want an auger now. and the little PTO scooper dump thing, and a single bottom plow, and a rock rake. The little ol ford purrrrs. I even use it to mow all my flat land in 2nd gear in no time at all.
Thank! Love my 8n!! I do have a 2 bottom plow for mine. Depending on the ground, I can run it pretty deep!!
Found you through this video! I have a Ford jubilee that looks similar that I’m planning on getting going and then I can get some attachments for it!
Awesome! I love this tractor. Mine currently isn't running .... I haven't had time to really lookm into it ......
Reminds me of drilling holes for putting a deck on my house. We rented an auger for my tractor to drill them, some holes were easier than others. My problem was a layer of shale just over 2 ft and since there isn't really any down pressure on a 3 pt it would just spin when it hit it. We ended up with dad standing on one arm of the 3 pt and I would jump on the other to get it to break though. It worked well but as soon as it started, it went down quick so I would have to jump off as soon as it started and pull up on the 3 pt or it would bury itself. Probably not the safest thing I've done but it worked and we got all the holes in.
+walt2t LOL Probably not the safest. And I agree the no down pressure hurts a lot. And it is crazy how quickly that auger can suddenly grab and go down. It is weird how different 2 holes next to each other can be so different.
Also look at where your lift adjustment is set . 2 more holes towards the bit amd you will have greater lift force
Thank you very much! I really appreciate it! I think someone suggested that in the comments and I already made that adjustment ... I think.... but I will double check. Again really appreciate it! - Mike
CJ will have a nice area at his new home. Hubby is very precise when building. I'm like y'all all over the place ;)Thanks for the video.
+JRC Homestead Texas lol...We tried. Really really tried lol.
Great things for the kids to learn.
Yes! thank you !
8N does not have live hydraulics, but if you serviced your hydraulic system, it would have no problem lifting the auger, they are rated at 1,100 lbs.
I thought it was rated at 800lbs, I could be wrong. But still you are right about it needing servicing.
Tractor work is so cool Im always happy to see and learn how to use them , never even sat on one but we will be getting one when we move to Latvia (Vladimirec T25) Lovely to see the whole family helping , great Posts opps .......post lol
+Balvi small farm Homestead LOVE MY TRACTOR!! :) It is not the most powerful. It is not the newest (almost 70 years old), does not have all the best things..........but it is my tractor and I really really really like it!!!!!! :)
At 6:40 when you get stuck, just grab an adjustable wrench if the driveshaft is square stock or a pipe wrench and spin in reverse until the auger works itself up enough to be freed. Go easy on that ole 8n!
Thank Andrews. I think I had tried that when my dad and I put in the original pasture. But that was a lot of work if I remember right. Of course, I could be wrong :) So I will give this a shot next time I need to do this. Thank you!
What I do for straight fences is put the two end posts in and string a TIGHT line from post to post. Have the string at the TOP of the posts, centered in the middle of top. Then, each post that you set in a hole, be sure to line up the top center of each post under the string. Your fence will end up straight!
Thank you Dennis! Yeah I had the string on bottom for drilling but goofed by not putting it on top when I went to set the posts. Whew....hopefully next fence a little straighter :) - Mike
Good job ,I learned alot ,I used dingo once my holes wernt straight
I can't do anything with a straight line lol. THank you for watching.
Looking good! Your horse will have a nice pasture once its done.
+Humble Little Homestead Thank you very much.
OK I have about 500 square feet patio that will be really good for my house too I really like your videos Michigan snow Pony introduced your videos to us they are very informative
+me myself and I She is GREAT!! I am glad you came over here and like what your seeing.
Great job - lots of hard work! I don't think CJ is going to care one bit if the fence is off by a few inches. He will just want the grass on the other side -lol
+usakiwi5222 Thank you! I think your right that CJ won't care a bit. :)
The problem with the crooked fence is the ground keeps moving on you and it's totally not your fault!
+Billy Branch Homestead I like your way of thinking!
Curse you tectonic drift.
You guys come on down to NC..... I need some fencing done! Got a glimpse of your house.......LOVE it!
+Mrssoappeddler's Homestead We travel to VA sometimes to see my parents. Maybe if your close :) Except I am done with fences I think LOL. - Mike
lol! I soooo understand! We are about 60 miles from Danville, Va :)
Been driving the family 9N for over 50 years and working a Post Hole digger during that time. One issue is your yoke on your digger frame is connected to your main auger pipe to far forward, your not getting the leverage you need to come out of the hole. Adjust that and you should be fine.
Thank you so much!!
Starting your auger straight will alleviate most of the issues here lol
I don't disagree with you, but I have got it stuck plenty with it straight. I have got better with the auger and get it straight more ofter, but it likes to tip for no apparent reason! Thank you for watching and commenting!
you should go down slower and stop part of the way down and lift up a few times to clean the dirt out of the hole. and you will not have this problem...
Thank you! This is what I try to do. Maybe I am just impatient LOL!!! But yes, when I do manage to go slower I have better results. But when it bites and sucks down fast...then I know I am in trouble. Thanks for watching and commenting!! - Mike
Pratt Family Homestead a little hard to do with an old n series, take it as slow as you can and idle up
Using all 27 hp of that ford. Nice progress!
+Life in Farmland He has really been working that tractor around here, but it's doing great! Won't be long and we'll be upgrading though. A front end loader sure would be nice sometimes! ~Jeni
+Life in Farmland What she said! :) I really like this old Ford. Doesn't have some of the bells and whistles that I would like. Sometimes it makes me work a lot harder than I should....but I do really like this tractor and I think it has done everything I have asked it. - Mike
+Pratt Family Homestead Oh I agree. Great tractor. Parts are a lot easier to come by as well then other makes. Our neighbor has one just love watching that thing.
27 hp when it was brand new......
I thought it was 17:59 ;) I think maybe it's a little longer because you doubled a segment- 12:30 matches 14:44. At first I thought you were just doing another post and repeating, but I think you accidentally added it twice. I told you I would watch every second. :) Anyway, I really liked the video. We don't have any fence here, and I have been intimidated to put it up. Searched CZcams for videos, but they were all too technical for me. You guys made it simple. Even got the little ones involved (which you know I love). Sweet doggie, too.
+The Fundamental Home apparently we were having some technical difficulties last night with the computer, LOL. I think Mike is in the process of trying to fix this. ~Jeni
+The Fundamental Home As usual...."yeah what Jeni said"....LOL. I am now trying to now figure out CZcams video editor. Hmmmmm. And yeah....computer was really hosed up last night!!
+Pratt Family Homestead Hahaha!! It's not like you had a long day of installing fence posts, raising children, and editing videos or anything ;) Those things happen. They make the videos fun. I just had to tease because someone (who shall remain nameless) was worried about a video being over 18 minutes :)
Redesign of your stand might be needed. Make it with 2 legs that are straighter and will be more supportive. Maybe make it install using the mount on the top and incorporate a height change on the legs. Just an idea.
Excellent idea!
That's real nice appreciate it thank you a lot
At 8:10 into the video look at the top of the horse shoe thing. ( sorry can"t remember what
it's called) you'll see the top bolt on it is forward toward your seat. Move that back 2 or 3 holes it will greatly increase your lifting power. You will lose some height of the auger off the ground when traveling though.
I am going to have to give that a try for sure. I really can't even remember why it is set up this way. Set it up when we first moved in and put int the first pasture. Thank you - Mike
Pratt Family Homestead We have the exact same auger & tractor. We have ours set on the 2nd hole back & it lifts just fine in Mississippi clay. Good luck!
thumbs up guys, good going
+Rob Prince Thank you very much
Great job! I need to get a 8N or 9N. That beats post hole diggers all day. To help set the poles you can get a post level, they are not much and you can strap it on the post with rubber band and you can level both sides at once. I use mine a lot. no stopping and reaching for the level over and over. Just a small tip. Beat they can not wait for CJ to get there.
+SierraDale Homestead That level sounds great. The bending over and grabbing stuff all day can kill my already bad back. But after doing 1 or 2 of these holes I remembered that last year when I put a fence it I kept it all in a wheelbarrow right next to the post and leaned things against it to. Really helps a lot. Then move it from post to post. Love my tractor. Yes it could be more powerful, yes it could have more bells and whistles (like live PTO), yes it could have more.....but I REALLY LIKE IT!!! I also weighted the tires (fluid in them) and with the chains on top of that....no snow up here can stop me!! :) - Mike
+Pratt Family Homestead the good thing about the 9N and 8N are a lot of the parts can be gotten at TSC too. So I will keep a eye out here for one. Right now its me and the post hole diggers LOL.
Hope the kids got the full going rate lol.
:) Always!
new subscriber. Looks like you have some good helpers. this is a great video. We're likely getting an 8n tomorrow and will be using it for a lot, including some pasture fences like this in the next year or two.
Very cool!! Love the ol' 8n. There are some bells and whistles that it doesn't have. I do hope to upgrade a little in a couple years,but that is by no means necessary. So if I do....I do...if I don't...I don't :) Hope you enjoy it. It is a great tractor. - Mike
My husband put up our fence with a gun sight. He is THAT fussy when it comes to straight lines and square corners. I have learned never, ever, EVER say "That's good enough" when working on a project with him because that means it could be better / straighter / tighter / stronger / etc. etc. and we will be at it until it is.
+Michigansnowpony I tell ya what :) I have accepted the fact that I will never be a master of any trade. LOL. I/We tried so hard for a straight line and failed miserably. But I can't cut straight either. Or walk straight. Or draw straight. LOL. I'm a mess. But...I know those posts are in there good!!!! Hope you have been good! - Mike
What did you promise the little ones for helping out? An ice cream cone?.....Looking good
+2.67 Acre Homestead No bribes. These kids love hanging out with us and helping....well..usually. We will take while we can get it. I assume in a couple years when they start getting into their teen that will change :) - Mike
+Pratt Family Homestead ....Great, take while you got it...
looks like the tractor has an internal hydraulic leak. Very common on the N series
Yes! It does for sure. Thank you for watching
Mine did as well I repaired it quite a few times.
Ya'll are a hoot!
+Belles Human LOL...thank you very much!! And thank you for dropping by! - Mike
New Farm name.."Crooked Fence Farms"
That would have been perfect! Lol!
Awesome vid! Im getting ready to start a horse pasture so this helped! What auger are you using? I need to buy one at some point. Did the long driveshaft come woth the auger too?
I fee like I got the 9 inch and 6 inch auger bits (sold sep). I could be wrong. But they need to be big enough to get whatever post in that you will be using and have room to tamp around the post.
here is basically the one I bought (although this is now a newer version with a couple other bells and whistles).
www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/countyline-3-point-post-hole-digger-602377-1353114?store=297
@@PrattFamilyHomestead thanks so much!
everyone should use a motorised manual augar first to see how much they grab and not cut a hole . in early life augared lots of post holes with manual augar you had to lift it reguraly so it wont screw in
Thank you !
I bet the clutch like that
I hear ya
My family and I are thinking of doing that when we have the money was the glass panels expensive
+me myself and I The porch was this way when we moved in a year and a half ago so I am not sure. Sorry. Did you see the video where I show the porch in detail?
Came here frm Bri and Art.😍
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I'm sure u heard it all by the professionals but ur spotter must alert u when the auger stand is moving from up under, but hey man shit happens buddy it's awesome to do projects with ur Family. U have a beautiful family keep up the good work. Stop dropping that level down like that cuz it will no longer be level... Ijs
Thank you very much! I have learned a lot from doing this video and getting comments. I appreciate it!
I have a 51 Ford 8N. I am rerunning all of my fence lines and setting new boss posts and Hbraces because the previous owner looked to have used the wrong class of lumber (10 years old and everything is already rotted out). I have been debating on getting an auger for my set up. You have it in neutral with the PTO lever engaged, correct? How do you keep the holes straight? What diameter posts are you running? I have 4" boss posts and 6" H-brace posts. I am going to put them 3.5' down. I have fairly good untouched soil here in eastern Kansas. I did my first post on the new farm by hand and it was pretty easy digging.
WAY TO GET THE KIDS INVOLVED. IT IS NICE TO SEE THEY ARE NOT AFRAID TO WORK. EVERYBODY WORKS EVERYBODY EATS.
Thank you!!
Nice what part of michigan. M66 here between fife lake and kalkaska. Looking at picking up old ford tractor :)
We are South Central ... Hillsdale County. Thank you! I love that Ford :)
Looks good. It also looks like you mixed 6 and 4 inch posts, right?
Yes, corners and every 50' is 6 inch posts. I believe technically the others are 3.5 inch!
I'm like your Greenhouse is it your patio
+me myself and I Yes. Our back deck is covered and closed in with removable glass panels. It was this way when we bought it a year and a half ago.
You need to throttle up when thanks augur is running off your PTO, that's why you are losing power
You have a GREAT work crew there... What blessings! What state are you in?
Thank you very much. We are in Michigan! Very close to the OH and IN borders
Now I have to buy a plasma cutter. My wife is not going to be happy.
:)
Have you bothered to check the fluid level in your transmission ?
Yes, I have a little leak so I am always checking it. Thank you very much!
I know she would stall but don’t dump ur clutch continuously like that or u will damage it
Yes thank you!! I agree 100%
Was the 8n even full throttle
As far as I remember :) But yes I am sure it was.
@@PrattFamilyHomestead ok I was just wondering
what size auger are you using for this fence job?
I'm drawing a complete blank at the moment. 6" and 9" I think.
Do you know what type of panels there
+me myself and I I really don't and I just tried googling and was not successful. But they are basically kind of like very large screen door window inserts...kind of??? They have a metal border and are just screwed up to the side of the porch. I remove 2 or 3 when it gets real warm. If I can remember....I will show them in detail on my next "growing update" video. I have told Jeni so hopefully we can remember to :) - Mike
Ain't puttin' up fence f u n? ;P LOL Doing a good job there guys! I watched a guy put up a horse fence with landscape timbers and chicken staples not that long ago. Gee, wonder why the horses had it torn down in about 6 months.
+MotherOfManyHorses LOL...we aren't going that route. We were going to go with a High Tensile fence but after hearing lots of bad stories of cut up horses we decided to sink the money into the "no climb" fencing. And hopefully he does't tear this down in 6 months. I really don't want to re-do it!!! LOL - Mike
+Pratt Family Homestead I think you're doing just fine. ;D Just so long as you use something a little heftier than chicken wire staples, you're good to go. It might be a good idea to use a board on the top from post to post as some horses will "stretch" the fence by leaning their long necks over the top of the fence to get to the "greener" grass on the other side. Or, you can run electric along the top. But honestly, if either are a problem for you, I wouldn't stress over it much. He didn't look to me like he was a serious fence tester (unlike my girl ;P).
+MotherOfManyHorses Thank you for the input. Good stuff. How about a non electrified wire across the top in order to protect the fence? Also I am,planning on putting the fence on the outside of the posts and securing it to the posts with staples and wire wrapped around the post, Does that sound good? - Mike
+Pratt Family Homestead Putting the fence on the inside of the posts (between horse and posts) is the correct way to do it. That way, if the horse pushes on the fence it won't pop the staples. So you're good there. A non hot wire along the top? I don't really see the sense of it. Wire will eventually stretch. A barbed wire (which I am not a fan of for horses, although I have seen others use it), or a hotwire will keep the horse from leaning over the fence, but so will a board. You could just wait to see how he is. If he's not a fence tester, then you will be fine with just the no-climb. BUT if you notice him trying to stretch his neck over it, then you want to remedy it asap. Now, if there is someone else out there who has had good results with just a plain wire along the top, then fine. But with what experience I have had, it would be my last choice for the job.
+MotherOfManyHorses yeah....lol....I was asking about doing it the incorrect way :) I like the looks the incorrect way do much better. Lol. But I also know it is not about looks. But I was just thinking if I could secure the fence to the post with additional wire around the post and fence Staples that maybe that would work okay. Also I completely agree about the top wire. I was kind of just talking out loud. And no barbed wire for me
-I hope you only going to have one in that small pen, even at that there will be no grass left and it will be standing in mud, I see it here all the time, and they have huge fields but its in one small area, horse are gig time grass an hay burners, and so many don't do much with them. cant eat them, there great if you have work horses but you have a good tractor, as as hydraulic person on new an old tractors id say your relief vale or pump is week, that 8n should rip the thing right out of the ground. you cant beat them 8n for the best homestead tractor, just needs some tlc, I am in red clay and itt will jam that thing down an rip it out, clay is the dam crap to work with, rock hard an sticky when wet, and clay is always wet a few inchs down as it only drys 1 inch a year
Thank you very much! There is only one horse in that area. We are going to be expanding that area next year. This will still be his common area, but we are going to have some rotational grazing paddocks but in around it. While your right this area the grass isn't really growing, it has not turned into a complete mud pit .. not yet. But, again, the grass stays scalped to the ground. Also, I completely agree with your assessment of the 8n .. good and bad. I do believe the relief valve is bad as it doesn't stay in the up position very long either when under load and PTO disengaged.
Thro that level down on the ground abuse it, must had it gave to u are stolen it
Your right! Need to take better care. Thank you - Mike
It doesn't have the ass to pull out on time. lol DAM she's cracking the whip on you.... "GET BACK TO WORK" lol
I have that very same auger. What an infernal pain in the back side that thing is. Your "leg" and the jacks look like a good idea. Am going to give it a try. It is always pulling itself into the ground all the way to the gear box and tipping sideways. Grrrrr.
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+Hippie Farmer The Homesteader I completely agree with your review of the auger :) It is a pain. If those jack stands are under my 3 point braces....then the auger is almost 4 foot down. I fought a lot with it today with the bigger auger head on there.
Jeni is a stay at home Mom/homesteader/house caretaker/and the list goes on and on. I work offsite unfortunately. I love my job...I really do. But since we moved here a year and half ago I have started dreading going to work and dreaming of just staying here for my work day.- Mike
+Pratt Family Homestead thanks for the reply! I too after having built our place hate the idea of going to work. I could stay there and run the place and never be lonely. I hope we can both get there.
Complete user misunderstanding and user error.
A danger to himself and others.
Most likely has destroyed that tractor by now.
hello, p,, f,, h,, looking good to me,,,looking real good,, thank you god bless,,,,,,,,,,,,,
+James Humerick Thank you!
This was painful to watch. :/
Thank your for watchng at least. Should have disclaimer at the beginning stating " watch at your own risk, video may cause pain " :) LOL