X-Men '97 Reaction: 1x8 - Tolerance is Extinction [Part 1]
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Magneto didn't declare war on humanity, he just officially accepted humanity's declaration of war on mutants.
Facts
Exactly.
The declaration of war was when Genosha was destroyed.
He's returning fire.
The only way he knows how.
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"I hereby accept your invitation to violence!"
*Slaps the guy*
The EMP takes down planes, hospitals, everything so thats what Wolverine meant. Magneto probably killed hundreds of thousands with that move. He still right though 😂
In the comics it also caused earthquakes and tidal waves so probably millions died
Global shipping is messed up.
Various critical experiments are invalidated.
Automated manufacturing is halted.
You want to ensure public outrage is well funded? Mess with the economy.
True but how many mutants were gonna die if he didn’t?
“Never again”
@@Zulu-Lemon I'm sure some mutants died as well in his emp
@@Zulu-Lemon This might be harsh to say but, it was better for a few mutants to die than EVERY mutant. If Magneto didn't use his planetary EMP, there wouldn't be people to save from the sentinels.
Love that Doom was like "I might want your tech but all that war crime shit, I'm not with it."
Man has some principles
I also want to take a moment to applaud that, for the first time (to my knowledge), Doom is speaking with an Eastern European accent (which is realistic given Latveria's geographic location)
@@dylankoch1757 Yes! Finally, we're about to get a proper Von Doomyshlooby!!!!!
Being a citizen of Latveria would be fine, as long as you obey the laws. It would probably be a decent place to live
@@askani21 You Know you evil when doctor doom says you doing to much or wildin out .
If doctor doom tells you to chill out..u gotta be straight up evil
that kurt pov with wolvie through the bamf might be legendary status and the best nightcrawler scene ever.
I already loved Kurt, but this show has me falling all over again. I need a print of Kurt bamfing.
That scene was rad, don't get me wrong, but I don't think anything will ever top the White House scene in X2. Keep in mind, we (writ large) were still in the nascent stage of what super-hero movies could accomplish and hot damn did seeing that in theatres BLOW MY MIND.
@@misterderp4566 already forgot it : D
@@misterderp4566it's a cool scene for sure. And the fact it was so early in superhero movie history is significant. But I feel that scene gets overrated too often. If nightcrawler is a favorite character of the person watching the scene I get the emotions.. but we've had sooooo many scenes in great movies that I would argue surpass it in many ways.
But that's just me.
The last frame with Xavier, Jean, Scott, Ororo, and Hank is a throwback to the old-school, upper-left corner of the X-men comics. The floaty heads.
goosebumps
Thank you for that reminder.
I forgot all about those... good catch!
Omg, I didn't even catch this
Wait a minute woah
I love that even Dr. Doom and Zemo are like, "Yo, I dont fuck with war crimes, bro." You just gotta love villains with standards XD
Hector: That's an incredibly sexy outfit!
Augustin: It's just a Speedo!
Hector: _Did I stutter?_
Val is not mystique, she was speaking from a human experience when talking about Magneto. “He knows us (humans) better than Charles”
It's definitely Val Cooper.
And she's changed her stance after all she's witnessed.
I do wonder where Mystique truly is during all of this.
@@LucLightWolf121 Even Trask regretted his actions. Both Val and Trask were in the mindset of, "We're just taking precautions to help humans" and not "We want to kill all mutants." Like, mass genocide wasn't their thought process even though, inevitably, it's where this ideology always leads.
How people even think it's her ,do they really think that she could have hide being a mutant in a sentinel base?
Wolverine would have sniffed out Mystique when Val came to the mansion in episode 2. That didn't happen. She's Val. Not Mystique.
Yes plus Bastion would have detected her
Scott and Cable fist bumping healed me.
That was so good!
Nimrod infected a character we actually see during the “One Man’s Worth” storyline in the original series when they travel back in time. We see Bastions mom as well
Wuuuiut really? I have to see this :)
She's that racīst waitress, so I don't feel too bad about the "kind old" granny turning into & dying as a Sentinel zombie...
I reawatched the episode before before yesterday but I haven't caught that. Is it part 1 or 2?
@@Mayckon.D.Colman they both appear in the cafe restaurant where Wolverine gets in a fight with the racist owner. Bastions mom, Rose, is the waitress. His dad is a guy wearing a leather jacket, and the room he’s cleaning as a janitor is the room where Bishop destroyed Nimrod in the episode, explaining how he infected him
@brettbaumler754 wow good stuff bro l
Jubilee's new look looks like step 1 in a transformation to her older version in Mojo's game
And someone else said to your point it's her vampire 🦇🪽🪽🦇 outfit as well. 😊
Val Cooper IS Val Cooper!! She is NOT Mystique!! I’ve been crying this for so long and I’m standing by it, it makes zero sense for Val to be Mystique here’s why:
1. Telepaths!! Telepaths would easily be able to see through her shapeshifting. Jean, Madelyne and Emma would have easily spotted her!
2. Wolverine would be able to smell her, he knows what she smells like!
3. Sentinels didn’t identify her as a mutant during the massacre!
4. When Val was alone with Magneto there’s no reason to keep the disguise going!
5. On twitter I thanked Beau for not letting Val be Mystique and Beau DeMayo liked my tweet!
Val is Val!! In standing by it!
Your other points stand, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it established (maybe not in the cartoon though) that shapeshifters are a challenge to telepaths for one contrived reason or another. OTOH, a telepath should still be able to tell "hmm, I can't read this seemingly ordinary human, I wonder what's up with that..."
I went in the Val is Val rant now watch I tomorrow’s episode it’ll be revealed it’s Mystique…lol
It bugs me because at this point in the plot what would Mystique even contribute to the narrative? She’s not related to Bastion, Mister Sinister or Magneto in any meaningful way so if Val Cooper was Mystique… who cares?
I honestly hope that it’s not Mystique, otherwise it takes so much away from her ending speech since she’s a human realizing the error of her ways.
If it was Mystique, the whole speech feels like a lie.
If Cooper was Mystique she would have been sabotaging the project early on the series. That why was not convinced that it was Mystique.
That's Val Cooper not Mystique
X-Men fans have never been spoiled this much outside of comics in history! Whether it’s the deadly tag team of Nightcrawler and Wolverine, the Summers Family fighting a horde of Prime Sentinels, Bastion’s on screen debut as one of the the biggest and most formidable villains in Marvel history, Magneto proving again why he’s one of the most OP characters in comics history, and Charles Xavier ending the episode with “To me my X-men”.
*AND THIS IS JUST PART ONE!?!?!?!* If parts 2 and 3 are this great or even better this will go down as the greatest comic book tv show ever made!
Rejoice all Uncanny X-Men fans.
All this awesomeness thanks to Beau DeMayo, and Marvel fired him. LIKE WHY???
The fact they’ve shown Cap and Spidey, and referenced Hulk and Iron-Man (dang, Tony probably just lost a good chunk of his tech thanks to Magneto) makes me think the final two episodes might involve some sort of Avengers vs Mutants battle with the X-Men in the middle, especially as Magneto is enemy number one right now in the eyes of the human world.
@@scottishjedi1522 I’m guessing the avengers assemble in the finale and season 2 is purely Avengers v X-Men
Add in the spoiling: We have Deadpool & Wolverine coming up, too. Like, yeeeesh.
The constant Mystique theories are resembling Mephisto in WandaVision.
Logan saw the inner BAMF!🫨
Logan is wrong, Magento didn't declare war. War was declared when genosha was attacked
THESE WRITERS ARE COOKIN!!! Cant wait to see what the last two episodes bring!
I absolutely flipped out when they showed Doom, Zemo, and about 4 or 5 other Masters of Evil types, all like "yikes, even for us this is a bit much... anyway, GO TEAM WINNING SIDE, woooo". And the Nightcrawler POV for bamfing through the brimstone dimension was bonkers! Bastion literally playing the long game by hopscotching over mutants in evolution to just create better humans is also bonkers and a great use of the character. Pretty sure I saw Namor on one of the monitors in the background too! This show is just so amazing.
What the hell are other mutants doing in that world conference call of villains? Namor a true asshole then 😂
@@murk4552 Indeed.
Genetically, Jean and Cable are mother and daughter since Madelyne has the same DNA as her but in terms of relation, they're aunt and nephew
Like having a twin as your birth mother.
and somewhat stepmom because we don't know who scott actually married
whew
Nightcrawler is my favorite xmen. And I always wanted them to really show what he can do. X2 did a great job but it wasnt quite what I always envisioned. I thought I would never see the nightcrawler I loved in true action...until now. The scene with him and the rapiers? I will never be the same. That was the coolest thing I have ever seen, period.
The nightcrawler teleport/dimension was explored in further detail in the X-Men Evolutions series. But the animation during that fight scene was on another level.
13:15 as a big NIGHTCRAWLER fan this was the coolest thing
They did that in the movie too right? In Apocalypse.
I think Gambit's way of coming back will be as the Horseman of Death.
Good point ☝️.
We might be ending with Onslaught. I'm pretty sure the next episode we're seeing one of the most shocking moments in X-Men history.
It has to be. This has FA written all over it
@@sergiomedina7960 Right? This show's given me a lot of surprises, but they're telegraphing this one _so hard._
@@TheFiddleFaddle❤
Well we see. This origin story of Bastion is different. In this story he is a "mutant" where as in the comics he much more of a machine. So what will the public think when they find out he is a "mutant".
But what of the Mastermold we saw in Madelyne's vision in episode 1? It was a different model than the one that attacked genosha and the one wolverine beats later...
I think Val is human, or the Prime Sentinels would have detected her
I also think so
The thing that scares me a little about the Genosha is an Absolute Point/Nexus Event theory is that Gambit's death isn't reversible.
I havent seen anyone comment on it, but that last frame with Xavier in the center and Beast, Cyclops, Jean and Storm, I think that's a reference to the little tag at the corner of the covers of x-men issues, at least in the 90s
Lol, Xavier is going to pull a Gary Oldman from The Professional.
"EVERYONE"
You know it!😂
Wolverine's little growls are so damn cute. I love when he and Kurt fight together, it brings two of my fav mutants together.
Also, Magnus in black speedos.... A+++
We are experiencing peak X-Men.
To me, my MeX-men!
Mexas assemble / Mexas unidos!
CzechXican-I-Men!
I think your right, this may end with Charles stripping magnetos mind, leading into Onslaught.
This is my hope and official prediction since the show was announced loll
If this is the case then I hope the Avengers, F4 and Spider-Man return to help the X-men in the battle cuz Onslaught is such a huge villain that other heroes got involved in the comic event
This is going to be an Endgame situation. X-men, Brotherhood of mutants, and Avengers. All against Bastion.
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4:05 that is also why the Watcher shows up in the sky as the attack happens.
I feel that Val's arch would loose potency if she was Mystique. A human coming to the conclusion that Magneto was right feels like a stronger statement than Mystique saying it.
So are we getting fatal attraction into onslaught and then age of apocalypse!?!? This show…part one was lit!! I can’t wait!! 15/10
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Doom,Zemo and Madame Hydra helping Bastion
I think wolverine said its war now, because that emp for sure killed potential millions lol
Not by itself. It would only have effected the Prime Sentinels and similar cyborg or android based beings. The side effects alone would cause massively power outages but should be recoverable for the most part.
@@johnniequinn3215Power outages can absolutely cause people to lose their lives.
@@Jabberwocky415 In our world. In their world there are beings who can cause power outages on a regular basis.
@@johnniequinn3215 true, but an EMP goes way above a regular power outage, pretty much most if not all planes and helicopters crashed, most if not all nuclear power plants had a meltdown, a lot of people died in hospitals, car accidents left and right with turn signals simple turning off, etc. Of course, I don't expect the show to go full on into details of how catastrophic the global emp was, but for sure, Magneto killed and injured thousands of people around the whole planet.
@@Bulsara777 I don't disagree with collateral effects. But I will also point out that disruption was already happening with all the prime sentinels activating at once. And there are ways to harden against the initial effects of emp. We will have to wait a week to see how far the effects of this spread.
I can’t believe in one episode Hector got Spidey, Agustin got Doom and Adam got a man of steel origin story reference during the bastion backstory.
Also love the way this show focuses on chosen family, none of the romantic relationships are really working but the X-men show up for each other and mutant kind, always
I want 4 seasons now ‘98, ‘99 and then 2000 that would be so dope and a good way to differentiate the newer seasons 🤩
13:30 We see Wolverine and Nightcrawler in the brimstone dimension in a season two episode of X-Men Evolution.
I think you need to save Cyclops going full radical leader route for next season.
i dont think anybody ive seen review this episode made a big deal about the fact that an extremely unexperienced Sunspot casually destroyed one of the Prime Sentinels in the mall after it tackled him
Well, it might be because there are a lot of BIGGER deals happening in this story, lol.
@@hectorminator dang right! it was amazing!! i was just happy somebody actually pointed it out this time! i really hope Sunspot starts popping some heads once he and Jubilee are free again lol
@@jackson_craft_gamingscates9324 Think he'll unofficial -official join now.
He STOPPED one temporarily. They repair themselves & come back stronger. Well, not after Magneto's EMP...
If you want a fancy word for "next to second to last" it's "antepenultimate" 😅
This episode was incredible! That was only Part-1 of 3?!?!? I can't honestly contain my excitement for the next two episodes over the next two weeks! The team-ups, the action, the music, the dialogue, the animation, the Easter Eggs, the cameos, and the respect for the comic book source material and original 90s animated series that inspired it all was absolutely perfect! I'm honestly ready to say that this is my favorite project Marvel/MCU has ever done 10/10 episode! I can't wait for next week!
BUCKLE UP! I FEEL PART 2 PEOPLE ARE GON DIE LEADING UP TO THE SEASON FINALE.
Do wish it had shown Charles mentally calling all surviving Alumni and quasi-members of the X-men. Not just the originals.
I hope that he called Archangel and Iceman when he summoned his X-Men. To deal with Bastion, his Prime Sentinels, and a justifiably angry Magneto, it's going to have to be all hands on deck.
If they're doing the Fatal Attractions story next week, which it looks like they are, Professor X was wearing the Shi'ar exosuit during that one.
Information learned from this episode, Magneto wears speedos 😎
I find it very interesting that those sentinels were able to somehow subjugate a seemingly Phoenix-empowered Rachel Summers. Something I would usually argue is not possible unless you're like Galactus-level power. And even then, not promised.
Fair think something else went on because Phoenix ✴️🐦🔥🐦🔥✴️ Rachel is nai unstoppable.
@@AJ-kt5zo Exactly! Unless they meant to convey Rachel's inherent phoenix energy. But, if that was the case, they should've added her blue phoenix emblem on her eye. Otherwise, it's confusing.
@@bcbabbles ❤️
Precisely the phoenix is a god level being, no mere mortals can control it
Jubilee's outfit was from Gen X
NO it's her "vampire" outfit. Gen X uniforms were red & yellow.
Val said magneto knows " us" better than charles ever did.... sounds like she know both better than she is letting on
They did such an amazing job balancing three action sequences at once. Animated Nightcrawler+Logan is the thing I’ve wanted to see my entire life.
A Porsche in the back of a modified SR-71 the dumbest, coolest stuff ever. This show is amazing.
We actually have seen Nightcrawler travel through the brimstone dimension in animated form! There's an episode of Evolution where Forge creates a device that lets Kurt stay in the dimension longer to investigate it. Some creatures from that dimension even make their way back through to our dimension.
I think Jubilee outfit is from the comics when she was a vampire. I think it was 2011-2012 when she had that look.
Agustin's Dr. Doom reaction 😂🙌
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Mystique will be standing next on Val and people will still be like “Val is mystique!!!!”
We need the rest of the OG X-Men that we're in the portrait to show up, Bobby and Warren. Bobby alone would be a game changer, more Omega levels please!
I've read/heard others say that Bastian/Sentinals would know Val is Mystique.
Sinister called her "human" wretch.
Storm is busy with her long hair. She's coming
Storm will have to help Forge for a bit, unless he has emp proof spare parts handy.
Forge is "the rebel" Cable was referring to. It will be good to see Cable interacting with current day (1997) Forge.
What you got to wonder how many people died to the EMP. Planes in the air, pacemakers, important hospital equipment, I got to be under the assumption that a couple hundred thousand died.
How many died in Genosha?
bro choose destroy in mass effect (and same)
Magneto with the biggest flex of 2024!
There was a sabertooth cameo in one the earlier episodes. Logan was on a tree and Morph was messing with him as Sabertooth for like 2 seconds
I appreciate that they are putting omega level mutations into the equation in this series... I hope they give Storm a huge moment next episode.
Oh yeah! would love to see the brown suit Wolverine!!....Another mind-blowing episode!!! loved it! so many throwbacks n easter eggs!!! loved how Scott's newly convertible Porsche license plate says "SL1M"
thaat emp magneto did probably killed millions too so war is on
Plot twist: Val Cooper is Apocalypse.
That would be a different twist from the comics if we're 2 happen. And to be fair bastion and Apocalypse would have more than 🍖 beef .
So Magneto didn't just shut down on thing, looks like he shut down the entire worlds electrical grids. So anyone on life saving electrical equipment. Those "civilians" who signed up for the Sentinel program. So in theory he truly did kill millions. I think that's why Wolverine said Magneto declared war on humans.
Nightcrawler done right! He and Wolverine’s fight scene with the musical score for the win!
Seems only right that they would adapt Operation Zero Tolerance, which was released in 1997, in X-men '97. I honestly thought that crossover was a low point for X-men comics, but the writers of this show are making it so much cooler. I don't think they're going to do Onslaught this season, but with the fast pace of this show anything is possible. I don't think they would introduce Bastion just to have him be defeated this quickly. I still expect the last episode of the season to end with the X-men fighting Bastion himself. What happens with Magneto, I have no idea.
Zero Tolerance is the story that hooked me as a comic fan, but it does not end with a large bang. If they are adapting Fatal Attractions. That may be the better finale.
Bastion's Second Coming story had the better finale.
Next season, or the third season.
I don’t blame magneto.
I love Jean mothering Cable even though she's technically his aunt and half his age. So fucking funny.
Nope, bastion (or gyrick maybe? one of the bad guys) said they got those old satellites that Charles used to communicate with the Shi'ar, he's the one broadcasting it
Tbf, they gave Storm her original outfit. There's no reason not to give Wolverine the brown and yellow. I'd love black and orange like in X-Men evolution, but I'm not holding my breath
Valerie Cooper, on the final Genosha monologue, was saying WE instead of them. She's definitely a mutant.
Fair think she's mystique or somebody else.
Nope!! She’s Val (see my reasons above) I’ll eat my underwear if I’m wrong but I’m Confident I’m not. She meant ‘we’ as in humanity and human nature!
@@AJ-kt5zoVal Cooper is an actual character in the comics and she’s voiced by the actress who played Jean in the original X-men- Val is good enough w/out having to be Mystique. This is just another case of MEPHISTO!!!
She also says Magneto understands "us" (meaning humans). That "we" strikes me more as her talking about the victims of violence.
22:39 Scott wore his hair out in X-men Evolution too
Valerie said Magneto knows "US" better than Charles ever did. definitely Mystique
by "us" she means humans
@@eugeniamarch Is that what that meant? I wasn’t sure
@@justchillin7896 yeah, it wouldn't make sense for her to talk about mutants. she's talking about how humans turn apathetic and experience tragedies like "deja vu" before going on with their day. magneto understood humans better than charles, hence why "magneto was right" - her line of thought
I remember saying here the Genosha attack was a "nexus" event (due to the presence of The Watcher) and someone said those "don't exist with the X-Men"...well it was confirmed in this episode that nexus events do exist here. What an episode, the best of everything!!!
They'll totally do Onslaught, but next season. These last two episodes have to be the rest of the Fatal Attractions comics storyline. Xavier comes back next episode and resets the team while Magneto sets up his base. In the final episode, Magneto strips out Wolvie's adamantium and then Xavier's response is to mindwipe Magneto. And THAT was the setup for Onslaught, so all next season is dealing with Wolvie and the Onslaught Reveal. Season 3 (or a few episode arc) could be Age of Apocalypse! So much potential and all so well done!
13:32 In the X-Men evolution series. There was an episode where they did explore seeing the brimstone dimension. Kurt had to wear a device that made him go slow in order to see it. Because every time he travels through it he’s moving at fast speed in order to get to his next destination.
Bastion's mom is the racist waitress from "One Man's Worth"
Good riddance.
She is.
I hope Val isn't Mystique. That would ruin a very nice narrative, that is to have a human actually understanding the mutants perspective and in the end agreeing with Magneto, who she herself used to see as a terrorist before.
I live just a little north of Harmony and of course some shady shit would be going on around where i live lmfaoooo
Lol mistique is x men's mephisto😂 shes everywhere XD
I've been waiting for yall to freak out over this show. Especially for those 3 shots, that mean alot to both of you. Objectively, the Writing has been phenomenal and I can't help but applaud and thank. We'll see after the season if the fog finally clears. Proud of you muchachos 👏👏👏👏🤘
8:23 the delayed reaction from Agustin is what I was waiting all day for 😂😂
I was thinking maybe the sentinel tech inside the humans could be healing them, possibly even when cutoff from Sebastian. I feel its not likely because in the end, it seemed like they're were just deactivated completely. So dead. This show is brutal.
Lmao y'all with Mystique is so funny. And Magneto shut down THE WORLD. Planes, cars, etc. Humans and perhaps even some mutants are DEAD DEAD.
Seeing and experiencing Kurt BAMF!-ing reminded me of when we first saw Monica and Yelena Blip back. Just awesome.
Best part.. Wolverine. FINALLY we got some Wolverine!
Now Cyclops knows 'kinda' how Corsair must have felt
12:30 My man Wolverine!!!!! 👏
Thank you for mentioning Onslaught.
It's like the Extremis program from Iron Man 3 mixed with Rage Zombies.
Also, I want to know where Angel and Iceman are? They were pictured in the OG painting, and we've seen them in the original show... Where are they in all this conflict?
Remember, this was/is just Part 1!
I think the shot of shirtless Wolverine amongst the burning rubble is the in-story reason for a costume change.
- You're monster
- I was born this way
Let's go Gaga!
Theory on the unseen woman on the screen with Doom and Zimo, either Madame Mask or Valentina. This show is so good that it’s giving me concerns about if the live action will be as good.
If it was good enough for vin diesel it’s good enough for cyclops lol , car out of airplane lol
I just had a thought, maybe episode IX's intro will have the Avengers VS X-Men clashing
Episode 8 tho, holy cow
This is going to be nuts