Energica Experia vs Zero DSR/X Chat
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2023
- While my Energica EVA Ribelle was in for some work, my good friend and long-time touring companion, Chris, and I took out the Energica Experia and Zero DSR/X on the same day for a direct comparison, thanks to the kind folk at English Electric Motor Company. I have ridden both in the past and Chris had previously tried a Zero DSR/X.
We recently shared a conversation discussing the ride and our thoughts on the bikes, though my main purpose here was to gain Chris' thoughts, as I've already given mine on both bikes in the past, and he is now giving serious consideration to buying an electric motorbike, so this is a recording of that conversation, accompanied by footage of our demo ride. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Thanks guys for sharing your thoughts. I had the SS9+ (passed away in a fire accident not caused by the bike) and the Ribelle - but since I had a BMW R1200GS (an am 56) I was looking for that comfy riding position - and found it in both bikes. I ordered the Experia, and yes, the noise does bother me - I would have paid an option to go with a helical gearbox but Energica simply doesn’t offer that. Most of that nois is coming from it’s straight toothed gearbox. I was also taking the DSR/X dealers demo bike out for a ride and found it to be a bit sluggish in corners, the ExPee I rode felt a tiny bit more flickable.
If you ever get to ride an ExPee again, ensure the correct air pressure as I think it really rides perfectly neutral in corners - if the pressure is correct. I feel it to be VERY sensitive to even slightly lower pressure, and worn tires as I see now after 4.800km.
Thanks for the comment. That's a really good point on the tyre pressure. We should have checked that ourselves. One just assumes a dealer bike is ok, but I've had demo bikes in the past with dangerously underinflated tyres, and had to inflate them. Given that the oil level was low, the tyres might not have been at the optimum pressures either.
Thanks for this chat. Noise is probably the main reason I didn't get an Experia
It's weird. I've heard mixed reports about the noise level. Some owners say their Experia is quieter than previous Energica bikes they owned. As EEMC stated, when they brought the bike we rode here in for servicing, it was quite low on oil. That may be a common issue on the early demonstrators.
I ride a EsseEsse9+ RS and yes, the sound sucks. I got used to it on more than 30 tkm, but I wish it was silent. On longer rides (on ICE, too) I wear ear protection. It filters the whine, too.
But CCS ist the killer I still stuck to Energica.
The Experia rides more silent and overall very nice. Still have to testride the DSR/X but I'm sure I will miss CCS.
Great conversation and thoughts . Yes buying a moto is emotion and not all statts ..
1st you can silence an energica with mecacyl gear oil additive ..
2nd after owning a zero 2014fx for 8 years ( with lots of fun ) i will never buy zero again just will not go foe that company anymore .. thats qhy sales are up for experia and you can buy a dsrx with discount now ..
So buy your dsrx if it speaks too you ..
And have a lot of fun !!
Despite my issues with my first Zero DSR in 2016/17, I have to say its replacement was much better and I think I was fortunate in having a supportive dealership at the time.
I agree, it's important to consider precisely what kind of riding one intends to do in order to pick the best suited electric motorcycle.
@@jtchivers wish you happy ridings !! ..
At 36:20 you claim the DSR/X would get 22kW with the Charge Tank when in reality it will do closer to half that.
Thanks for the comment, Morgan.
No, I referenced "22 kW at home", which is accurate on a 3 phase supply. I referenced taking the Zero from the stock 6 to 12 kW with the Charge Tank (or "Rapid charger" - to use Zero parlance - I refuse to call it that!) at 30:50.
I appreciate and he appreciates that you can't put more into the bike than it can take.
So he could install a 3 phase charge point at home and, if he had the DSR/X with the Charge Tank, he could put 12 kW into it.
He could even, if he bought the Experia, install a 22 kW DC CCS point at home, but that's extravagant and needless for him.
@@jtchivers to be fair it used to be called the Charge Tank on the gen 2 bikes and actually still may be. I am still envious of your 3phase 240vac grid support over there. Cheers from California!
@mvetter If it makes you feel a little less jealous, 3 phase isn't typical to domestic properties in the UK, though it's common in commercial properties. Most homes have been single phase since World War 2, although some homes were built for electric heating with 3 phase being common in that case. It's going to be more common again though as new homes are built considering EVs, heat pumps, and smart grid applications.
@@jtchivers And there‘s no need for more than one phase at home as with decent fusing and wiring it provides more than the 3kW than any Energica will take. Even with a potential 6.6kW that Zero offers there are probably very few cases that would justify having an 11 or 22kW wallbox over a 3kW single phase wallbox as at home you usually charge over night.
@@jtchivers even your single phase is 240 which is twice as good as our anemic 120. So no, it doesn't really help but thanks anyway.