Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series [GAMEPLAY & IMPRESSIONS] - QuipScope
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- Klonoa is a 3D side-scrolling action game series whose first title was released by Namco in 1997. Set in a unique universe populated by a range of original characters, the game follows the hero, Klonoa, as he sets off on a journey to save the world. Commemorating the 25th anniversary of the first title in the series, Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series is a remastered title combining both Klonoa: Door to Phantomile and Klonoa 2: Lunatea’s Veil.
QuipScope is where we provide our thoughts and impressions while discussing how we're getting on with the latest video game releases. This time, Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series!
Our thanks to Bandai Namco for supplying review code.
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Klonoa is wonderful. It came out when I was into Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil (I was 15, 16) and for some reason I was really captivated by Klonoa. I just liked it and always played it. It's so cute with good game play and great music. Give it a go
I love this game when I was a kid with my dad. We played everything together. I'll never forget when I beat the secret level to this. Good times.
Klonoa 1 and 2 are one of mine childhood games. This is must have for me. That was my first game in NTSC and I was blown away. And grandad scene! Awesome that you like it Peter!
5:49 There isn’t a “major issue” with the story, the contrast between lighthearted, colorful levels, enemy’s, charming music, and bosses contrasting with the sometimes dark depressing story is why most Klonoa fans love this game! Must platformers don’t try to have a emotionally engaging story or characters (not that they should) but this game does and it gets pretty dark, which is why a lot of people (including myself) love and cherish this game! This has always been a thing with the Klonoa games, this is nothing new!
Do you have a Cliff Notes version of your multiple comments that easily could have been one? Sweet Jesus...
@@normallyimnuts767 If I had made it just one comment it would’ve been two long, but I’ve got no qualms with doing that next time if that’s what you’d prefer.
Love this series!
I disagree in saying that the story of Door to Phantomile is bad, but it does throw out a lot of very specific worldbuilding ideas that get glanced over too quickly. They basically tried to fit a novella's worth of story content into the length of a cartoon short.
It’s a good game but when you get to bosses the music well to heavy the controls are a bit sensitive
Will it come out physically in North America, NTSC?
Spoiler alert
Klonoa is not really a dream. His presence in this world is like a strange dream. And the first game made clear he did not die. He just got send back to his home world.
As someone who likes cute wholesome characters and Adventures that have a bit of a dark edge to them (I grew up with Digimon and my favorite series is Made in Abyss) I enjoyed the mild dark tone of the story.
I didn't realize there is no physical release for this what a bummer!
There is in Europe
Ahhh it’s fun listening to two people who completely don’t know or understand anything about the series trying to explain it!
Loved the first one on PS1 back in the day but no way I'm paying full whack to play it again. Might get it in a sale at some point.
You know Klonoa 2: Lunatea’s Veil is included In the remake right?
Correct.
7:26 Incorrect Klonoa doesn’t realizes he’s a dream or doesn’t exist, Klonoa is a “dream traveler” he’s meant to go to different worlds represented by drams such as; Phantomile or Lunatea where some sort of disaster/calamity is plaguing that world. Once he has cleared the world of their plight he has to forcefully with no will of his own leave all his friends, companions and the world he knew to then return to his own. Klonoa exists it’s just that he gets summoned into these worlds because he’s a “dream traveler” so he has to cure the world.
6:44 “Overdone the world building” how would you put that as a complaint? That’s what we Klonoa fans love about the game, we appreciate that the world, characters and lore are so fleshed out compared to other platformers and that the game isn’t afraid to take itself seriously at certain parts. It’s still cute and wholesome but the story can go some dark and serious places, that’s what we love about the series!
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It's cute, colorful and quaint. I've yet to see if it's good. I'm pac-ing money away to see if a re-pac is worth the effort.
You clearly did not read the dialogue, because you _decided_ not to care about the story.
There's a difference between _taking itself seriously_ and _becoming darker in tone_ and you people clearly don't understand the difference.
Half the reason people even love this series is because of the stories it told with the first two games, telling people to ignore it is the worst possible thing you could recommend.
That’s exactly what I’ve been saying, it’s obvious that this guy wasn’t paying close enough attention to the dialogue or subtext, because if he was he should’ve been able to understand the story easily. It’s not like the game just gets dark out of nowhere, it’s a gradual buildup, if he had actually read the dialogue he could’ve picked up on that stuff. That’s the reason why people like you and me love the Klonoa series because similarly to Kirby while it is cute, colorful and adorable there’s also a more deeper sinister story and lore underneath that exterior. To just completely ignore that and to tell people to skip it is just doing a massive disservice to the game.
I can completely say this was one of the worst reviews for the game I’ve seen, and did a complete disservice to the gameplay, story and mechanics!
If this was on Gamepass or a wicked good sale, I would probably pick it up. $40, though? Not a chance.
That's cheap for a new launch game, especially with a lot of games coming out at 60-80 these days. Also a heck of a lot cheaper than trying to get hold of the original copy on PS1 haha
@@llpalm08 Exactly, that’s not even a lot of money. I swear Gamepass has got people not wanting to buy/pay for games anymore.
The story element is definitely better in the second game than it is in the first game. I mean it's still kinda weird, but at least it's somewhat more coherent. Honestly, the sequel is definitely the better game to judge the series by (though alone doesn't justify the price tag), and it's perfectly possible to go into the second game without having played the first and not really lose anything from it (I hadn't played DtP until some years after the sequel). In fact the plot of the first game doesn't come into the second at all. Even despite the issues with the first game's story though, it did manage to make me cry (granted, I am a massive cry baby), even playing through it again in the remake with its awkward in-game-graphic replacements for the CGI scenes.
On normal difficulty, the game does ramp up in challenge. Particularly if you're going for all of the resident/doll collectables. It doesn't help that the remake's hit detection is a little wonky, particularly in normal mode, and punishes you for trying to shoot around a slight bend in the map shape or for skimming the model of an enemy with a wind bullet. So in that way, the remake is actually a bit harder than the originals, especially in areas where you have to grab enemies in mid air to avoid falling. In fact, honestly, the hit detection is my biggest complaint for the game - moreso than the lack of CGI cutscenes in the first game's remake or the flat shading style.
From the financial side, a lot of people have complained about the price. Personally, I don't see it as overpriced for a game published by a big name (from its UK and US pricing), especially if you're taking into account that it's actually two games in one. But the regional pricing is awful and Namco should lose points just for that. Some regions in particular have to deal with outrageous prices. UK prices are one of the lesser of the problems, but you're still paying £40 for a game that's $40 (£33.60) in the US. Or £45 for the Nintendo eshop version (the physical copy was cheaper as a pre-order thing, but its RRP is in line with the digital version).
Honestly, if you have nostalgia for this series and don't live in a region where the price is outright ridiculous and don't have the hardware/know-how/inclination for emulating, it's definitely worth it. If you're new to the series and live in the US, I'd probably recommend it too. If you live in a region with a price range closer in line with EU prices, I'd say go for it if you have the cash to spare, otherwise you might be better off waiting for a sale.
Personally, I love the originals and I think the remakes are fine. But I don't know how much of that is nostalgia goggles and desperation for new Klonoa content to come out off the back of this remake.
It is a bit dear, but I'd totally recommend it to anyone with even a passing interest in platformers, especially if you've got small kids - the first game's story IS nonsense, but the second has some lovely themes that, even as an adult, are important to hear
No it’s not “nonsense!” It has a great payoff and great emotional Waite! Because you’re playing the game getting time to experience all the different worlds/levels, meeting all the inhabitants and spending time getting to know them. Only for by the end to find out you don’t exist in this world and to have leave behind all the memories and friends you thought you knew forcefully yanked away from you! It’s very powerful stuff imo and one of the few times I’ve felt sad playing a platformer or any game in that manner.
@@lenarmangum8630 I don't disagree, the scene itself is pretty powerful, but I think it would've landed better if it felt more connected to the rest of the game, like if it had be foreshadowed or hinted at more than Huepow almost telling him *something* once before one of the final levels. As it stands, you could take that scene out and, off the top of my head, nothing would really change. I do really admire them ending on a more bittersweet note than you might've expected for this type of game, it's just the execution was a bit lacking for me.
@@griskin_8202 It IS foreshadowed very subtly by Huepow, Granny and Ghadius talking about a “dream that doesn’t belong in this world” also we already know not to trust Huepow because he has already tricked Klonoa once before. If you replay the game after the fact you can pick up on subtle little hints in the dialogue and Huepow’s reluctance and guilt later in the game.
@@lenarmangum8630 Yeah, good shout. I guess, knowing the twist, my brain made the connection and then instantly forgot about those lines. I still would've preferred it to tie into the rest of the game more, like if this was Klonoa's world, he still would've saved the day, right? It just feels to me like a separate plot point tacked on to service that ending cutscene
God damn, this is one of the worst reviews I have ever seen
Yup couldn’t agree more! It was almost painful listening to the completely miss the mark and undersell the game! It’s awful probably one of the worst reviews I’ve ever seen!
9:35 Advisory: DO NOT SKP THE STORY! The story is an integral part of the experience of the game, by skipping it you’re doing yourself and the game a MASSIVE disservice! The story has so many emotional impacts and payoffs that you won’t be getting if you just skip it, you’ll be missing out on all the characters, lore, plot points, stakes EVERYTHING! The story in Klonoa complements the gameplay you’ll be missing out on half of the experience if you just skip it! Please as someone’s who’s actually played all the games and knows far more about the series than these two boozo’s who don’t truly understand the games, DON’T SKP THE CUTSCENES!!!…..
Klonoa Phantasy Reverie? More like Kloaca Phantasy Reverie since they pushed out two different games.
This game costs way too much.
Absolutely agree.
It’s only 34.99 for two games that’s cheap