1995 Golf Driver vs 2024 Driver (The TRUTH) #6

[@DspinsBomber]

Every retro review Friday should start with a dance move from the time period of the review 😂

[@shinji0843]

I would imagine the shaft makes a huge difference as well.

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

Those old titanium drivers sound so good.

[@alexetchesgolf]

They really do mate!

[@Power5]

That tink on the first hit instantly took me back to the 90s. Miss that sound of golf.
I just switched into this millenium this year. Put my full set of 1998 Cleveland TA5 into the basement for a new set of Takomo and a new Cleveland XL2 driver. My friend had that exact driver back in 1995 and when I got my set of clevelands I was a little disappointed that it did not come with as nice of a driver. First round with new irons today. Swung the driver at course last week and could not miss a fairway.

[@Pulse2AM]

I played a Burner Bubble and Callaway S2-H2's for years, I shot in the high 70's and only played a couple times a month. You don't need the newest and greatest you need a good teacher which is what made my game better.

[@rbailey225]

I feel the same way when I hold an old Wilson Staff blade. The focus needed is elevated but man is it sweet when you center one up.

[@_caseyjames]

I game Wilson Staff fluid feel tour blades. They are incredible golf clubs and look beautiful.

[@jonathanmercer7109]

To be honest, my buddies who had the bubble Burner back then could not get near my Lynx Boom Boom (1st generation). I really must get that re-shafted.

[@TheVillest]

its great that you did this on course and not inside the hitting bay. while these different tests are always fun inside, on course is so much more practical at the end of the day

[@jamesbaine580]

The reason you hit the tailor-made so well is because you have a great swing you're practically a tour level player. You could probably cut a hockey stick down and hit it almost as well. Us mere mortals will probably go for the larger driver head because it gives more confidence

[@Jttw2131]

I'm not surprised. I'm still using my 2004 Callawav 9 degree driver. It has a smaller head (360 cc) which is just the right size for me. My golf buddies buy new drivers every year, but I'm still keeping up or out driving them. I'm sure new technologies are better and help, but it all comes down to the swing. I'm never changing my driver.

[@TheVillest]

i'm going to go out on a limb and probably say that you are better than your buddies who are using newer technology. i mean it wasn't really all that close between the bubble and the new qi10 in this video. alex was mashing both and the qi10 was out performing the bubble by a mile lol. id bet if you had a new driver you would see improvement. i mean if there wasn't any improvement, pros would be using 30 year old stuff too lol!

[@PaulThrossell]

dont be silly, you should get a modern driver. It will increase your drives by 20 yards plus. I am a scratch level player and have Ping i3 irons, and my 3 and 5 wood are around 20 years old too, but my driver is modern. The one thing you need is a modern driver. No it does not come down to the swing. I found this out myself back in 2006, I loved my Titleist 975D driver but wanted to test it against a 905R that had just come out, so I borrowed one and tested it against my driver, around 10 yards difference on average, so I changed. Modern drivers have a much bigger difference, you are just throwing away shots if you keep using the old drivers.

[@Vivi_pug]

I really enjoy this style of video comparing old tech to new tech in golf. You do a good job of explaining what you are doing, thinking, and feeling. And entertaining in the process. Keep up the good work!

[@tylerlove2052]

That sound of the first swing took me back! That driver came out when I was in highschool and that was the answer to all of your problems! Back in the days of no launch monitors, just watch it fly and see where it lands. Love these reviews! A driver that’s 30 years newer better win!

[@jasend8727]

I hit the longest drive I've ever hit with the bubble shaft driver, it was in '95 at Pelican Point GC Tyndall AFB Panama City Fl. There was dense fog so I never saw the driver, but it felt really good and straight. 562 yard par 5, I ended up about 10 yards past the 200yd marker dead straight.

[@everydaygolfer6483]

Nice one Al, even though the LS technology was longer most handicaps of todays golfers haven’t changed that much. I miss my Wilson Invex driver.

[@matt9822]

Have a taylormade R7 5wood that has held ots place in my bag for nearly 20 years now. Love the weight and sound of the titanium head, does great out of the rough.

[@tyrantrex734]

I literally have one of those bubble shaft burners in my garage right now. It's not a bad 5 wood...lmao

[@ryanu3708]

I am still using an old Cobra Zero Limits driver I think from 2009. There is something magic about the shaft/ head combination that suits me perfectly and I’ve been unable to duplicate through fittings with modern clubs. Ive had people offer me good money for it after hitting a few balls. It’s just one of those once in a lifetime things. Same with my 1992 Ping Anser2.

[@brotherbread6549]

I play a 2005 Cleveland launcher 400 with an aldila 75gm shaft. Avg 280 carry with slight draw. It's never leaving the bag.

[@jimwocha4949]

Still have 3 or 4 TM metals in my shed. Definitely some bronze bubble shafts plus a silver 200 4 wood which I still use on occasion. Great clubs.

[@sylvandude1]

I had 1 when I was a teenager, loved my bubble! The suede head cover! 90s cool!

[@benfinesilver2250]

I remember testing some drivers on an indoor driving range/computer as a kid back then. The Taylor Made was consistently the best one I tried. Forgiving and accurate.

[@petersmith9470]

Older smaller head drivers make very long hybrids.
Had a G15 at the local range and swapped an old guy for a yonex for a couple of shots and the prehistoric yonex was putting the balls about 40-50 yards forward. Could be COR, MRI or shaft angle but just an absolute distance monster

[@akme1974]

The outside side by side is awesome

[@DspinsBomber]

Mr Bombastic all the way 4:51

[@MikeTimbers]

So what does this say about the idea of rolling back the ball? Same ball but 29 years of club development and the old club cannot keep up. So is it the ball that needs restraining or the clubs?

[@gep2771]

I got that Taylor made driver, bought it new same loft with the bubble shaft and it's sitting in my basement, I could never hit very good so there she sits still like new.

[@joeperez3520]

Music never fails to give me Kimagure Orange Road flashbacks!!! 😵‍💫

[@grahamkatz5495]

Try the 1995 golf balls if you can find some new ones and see what results you get

[@alexetchesgolf]

I have in the past 👍

[@hunterbarnes54]

These in between shot/intermission bits are first class

[@scottbieber1731]

I have an old Callaway Steelhead 3 Small head driver that I use for a training aid !
Aim small Miss small!

[@kristopherjames1742]

I have two old Callaway Warbird fairway woods that I absolute crush. Off the tee, off the deck, straight when I want, bend when I want. I'm not a good player but those two clubs are as close to automatics as I have. I'm probably giving up some distance but I'm afraid to take them out of the bag. I have the driver too and retired it a long time ago but the stupid 3 and 5 I can't let go of.

[@swaney3737]

These are the best kinda vids!!

[@MrAshtute]

I think the difference (of course) is the modern club taking spin off the ball.
Especially the way you crush it the old driver probably got 80% more spin on the ball.

[@anthonystreeter7217]

I still have a burner bubble 3 wood from when I was like 12. Still fun to hit every once in a while, but it's nothing compared to today's clubs.

[@tomsettles6873]

I love the retro vs new driver comparisons. Please compare the Ping G15 driver with an upgraded aldila serrano x shaft. I think it will match or beat a lot of the new drivers. When the G15 came out in 2011 a lot of pros said it was by far the best driver ever tested. My son and I both still play the G15 and it's a cannon for swing speeds above 105 mph. When i was 50-52 years old I hit my alltime best 405 yard drive and many 320+ drives with a 10.5 Ping G15. Longest driver I've ever hit and very forgiving.

[@buaya111]

the sweet sound of titanium,

[@bsktballman08]

You need some retro golf clothing to go along with your retro club reviews.

[@lockstockandtwosmoke]

Oh the film reference was 👌on point yet Another funny down to earth golf video from my number one CZcamsr golfer

[@DWHarper62]

What's the difference in shaft length?...

[@carlr2837]

A year ago, I was hitting a Titleist 905T 10.5 degrees, a driver from 2005, that was a random hand-me-down club. Today I'm hitting a Ping G430 Max 10k 10.5 degrees that was custom fit to me. Both are regular flex. The claim you see made frequently is that driver distances have improved about 1 yard per year, so my expectation was that I would see about 19 yards more per drive. Have I? Here is a comparsion using ShotScope data:
1. With the 905T, I played 95 rounds, and my "Performance Average" (which excludes bad shots) was 227, while my total average (all shots) was 200.
2. With the G430, I have played 31 rounds, and my Performance average so far is 221 and my actual average is 195, but I think I was swinging it less aggressively at first. This month only, my "Performance Average" is 225 and actual average is 200, essentially the same at the 905T.
I think it's safe to say that I haven't seen any massive improvement from a 19 year newer driver. In fairness, last year was a drought year, so the ground was dry, and balls rolled further, while this year has seen consistent rain, and the courses are plush and green, and balls don't roll nearly as much. Thus there is certainly some actual improvement. One of these days I'll switch back to the 905T for a few rounds, or at least, bring it along and hit a second ball with it, and get a more direct comparison.

[@robertakerson7186]

Mr. Artificial Intelligence- I enjoyed this comparison of old vs. new a lot! Please keep these up. Bob

[@unknownKnownunknowns]

Great series.Would love to see the Taylor Made R580 series of 20 yrs ago compared to the 2024 offerings

[@goppledanger]

I still play with the Taylor Made Burner oversize graphite irons now. Have always loved those clubs. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@goppledanger]

(with a Ping Si3 driver 😂)

[@shadyzz9549]

6 months ago I pulled my Biggest Big Bertha Titanium driver circa 1997 out of my storage & cracked my one chance at a drive 305 down the center of the fairway.
Old clubs still rock n roll.
It’s not the club that makes shots bad, it’s a skill issue with excuse making bad golfers.

[@wadesimon3536]

I have that exact driver in my bag right now … but I use it like a 3 wood 😉 love that club!

[@j.landismartin5397]

Same here.

[@Robert-we9jp]

What is the difference in club length between the 2 drivers? I asssume the 1995 model is shorter (43 inches vs. 45 inches?). If so, installing a shaft to make the 1995 model the same length would be a fairer comparison. I assume the new driver would still hit the ball farther, but I doubt the difference would be so extreme.

[@ericg9092]

Love it. Great video, and the dance moves......WOW. Lol

[@olias2k979]

I did a similar thing having seen one of your vids, Took my Callaway "Big Berha" in a tryout against my Taylormade M1, Shaft length was an issue to start, the Bertha shorter by a way, The head speed according to Tracer range was avg 98, the M1 cooked in at 115, ranges about the expected ranges with that difference. I wonder what would happen with longer shafted Bertha V the M1?

[@moon_wobble7782]

I have one of the bubble drivers. I can’t get a replacement grip for it.

[@recoilrob324]

The solid Titanium face with some roll is a very forgiving thing to hit. The roll face imparts side spin to correct for mishits...and it works pretty well so you find the fairways a lot more often. I'd rather give up 15-20 yards while in the fairway than farther out but in the rough. Makes the game a little easier.

[@alexetchesgolf]

Purely preference for sure on that. Stats show that 15-30 yards increase is more beneficial than finding a fairway 👍 and just to stop confusion, the roll face “corrects” spin there’s no such thing really as side spin, it’s just tilted backspin

[@diegosvega]

I love this type of videos! Is there a chance to put a stiffer shaft to these type of clubs? I feel the stock shafts on the old clubs are not as stiff as the pros used back in the days.

[@awood9214]

In all honesty, I still love the Stealth 2. Might finally pick one up now that they're on sale ❤⛳

[@caspervanlaer5139]

I had the 3 wood with the bubble shaft when I was a young teen and remember it to be pretty awesome...
. My brother broke it one day on the driving range 😭

[@tonymiddlehurst8438]

Wish I was still using my old trampoliner Cobra 440SZ. Still would be if some git hadn't told me it was illegal. That might be an interesting vid.

[@DspinsBomber]

Apollo 13 for the win 7:23

[@rbailey225]

That's not a forest.......it's the fire swamp. Since we're going retro a shoutout to Princess Bride (1987) felt appropriate.

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

I still have my original 975D driver with a ProForce Gold Shaft and the static weight of it is a solid 100 grams heavier than my newish Tsi3 with a Tensei Black 1k shaft. The light weight materials used in todays tech is night and day from the old stuff. Consider as well that the original metal drivers were only fractionally better than persimmon. Better but not this massive jump forward, more like a small leap.

[@trafyknits9222]

It's very likely that a tour player (in the top 20) could use old clubs and score very well. Equipment does matter to some degree, but it's more the golfer.

[@alexetchesgolf]

Would depend on the individual!

[@dr.vonslifeinvesting6485]

That Taylor Made got me to college golf

[@DuTch_-0-]

Al, how about doing the Taylormade titanium vs Taylormade mini Driver... 😂 The mini driver is basically the driver from then and is still more cc I believe the burner was what 240-260 cc. It would be interesting contest off the deck. Or do Callaway mini driver vs Callaway Big Bertha from the 90s.

[@jimdrummer816]

I actually still own one of those burner bubbles. No, I don't play it anymore............

[@GilFavor101]

Rule of thumb: 1 yard per year, lol. I bet it's a 29 yard difference. Cool series!!!

[@jeremydawkins8399]

Love the retro stuff!!

[@tcpUtube1]

Don’t just walk away dude! Replace your divot.

[@alexetchesgolf]

I also went to the toilet. Shall I show that too??🤦‍♂️

[@lifeonsafari5989]

@@alexetchesgolf😂

[@user-nt8dw8gx7w]

I'm thinking the bubble shaft might have lost a lot of its mojo over the years.

[@georgezipp8783]

Need to do this with a machine

[@alexetchesgolf]

Why? We’re not machines!
The results are usually online and it’s a massive difference between the decades

[@Tin5674]

wish we could have seen John Daly in his prime with the modern clubs 💀

[@alexetchesgolf]

He’d need to find a gym to keep up IMO

[@Tin5674]

@@alexetchesgolf lol keep up with who? guessing you dont watch much golf

[@bobpfaff2258]

It would be interesting in the hands of a mediumswing speed player

[@mattharvey968]

Cleveland Launcher XL2 vs. Cleveland HiboreXLS

[@andrewmarshall810]

That old one is what I have.

[@bseely772]

Great format 😊

[@stjudetheobscure]

Perhaps the old TM would’ve been best compared to the Brnr mini driver?

[@alexetchesgolf]

Well it’s a different driver. This was the same just time difference. I feel the mini would be a good comparison and have a script for it 😉

[@empirestateconstructionllc2336]

New subscriber love the show .are all brits good golf players and instructors?? LOL 😅

[@alexetchesgolf]

Welcome 🙏 thank you!
And no not at all 😂 can get it round sometimes

[@tonymiddlehurst8438]

The distance difference between these two will be somewhat less for someone who doesn't smash the ball off the tee as accurately as your good self. As a 16 h'capper I reckon I'd happily trade 50yds of very possibly wayward extra distance for a saving of whatever it is, £450-£500?

[@alexetchesgolf]

Think forgiveness becomes a bigger part at that point. If I middled them all I think it would be “closer” 16 handicap would really expose how good the technology is now

[@tonymiddlehurst8438]

@@alexetchesgolf aye I'm talking crap as usual, soz

[@RLIAU]

How about the bubble vs mini drivers?

[@billmertens6759]

Total nonsense. I've owned both those drivers. I'm hitting the Qi10 to the same place that that I hit the Ti Bubble 30 years ago. I haven't aged a bit.

[@alexetchesgolf]

Okay Bill. But clubhead speed will play a part

[@billmertens6759]

@@alexetchesgolf Are you implying that the technology has perfectly paced my advancing age. Well, ain't that convenient.

[@bseely772]

Did you hurt your back? Or has your backswing always been a little short?

[@lifeonsafari5989]

Ask John Rahm that…

[@MrKillahippo]

any change of adding a modern shaft to the retro and then giving it a crack.

[@nigellutze9981]

With golf saying we hit the ball too far, rather than changing the ball, why don't we lower the CC of the driver to 300 but have the same size modern head?

[@marcusjohnson488]

Give the Callaway ERC II a crack

[@dlenny3369]

Do tour balata 90 with new tech pls

[@SamuraiX007]

"What components are in this?" *points at the name* Titanium was one of the heaviest materials golf clubs were made out of.

[@alexetchesgolf]

That was kinda the joke haha

[@TheChrissil3]

Faded one and drew one on the first drive which didn’t help the old drivers distance…

[@alexetchesgolf]

Straight block and Straight pull - neither really had shape to be fair. Really exposed the retro drivers spin

[@Shaboiiii]

Goes hard on 1.5 playback speed

[@shawnsmith1439]

Next Retro:
Bell bottoms
Platform shoes
Big collar shirt
Powder blue vest
Pimp stick
Hat with feather
Marvin Gaye

[@anthonyvanwestreenen1539]

Newest bloodline member 😂

[@alexetchesgolf]

Head of the Top (Table)

[@mikeshaffner5050]

I play1994 2wood 13.5° K Sole Frozen rope on par 5s Eagle easy bidies

[@guy41478]

Great video. But all of your graphics, music and styling was from the 80s, not mid-90s. :)

[@alexetchesgolf]

I use the same for all retro reviews it’s easier 😂

[@marygaleac]

Hmmm…..played off scratch with my Macgregor Persimmons……not quite sure how good I would be today 40 years on?

[@alexetchesgolf]

Well I’d say it depends on how much power you can generate. It’s a distance game now! Hard to just assume you’d be better! Who knows

[@philipsmith3871]

Unconcious Bias should always be considered.

[@smitty9733]

Bryson Dechambeau beat long driver Martin Borgmeier in a 4 hole match using a bag of Walmart Junior golf clubs ! With 2 birdies and 2 pars !

[@alexetchesgolf]

Not sure what that’s got to do with the price of fish?

[@jasonknight8214]

Would like to see ping g ls vs ping 430 ls

[@Ken-ck4zn]

The first 2 swings were completely different. You swing much harder with the new driver.

[@alexetchesgolf]

Yeah you probably missed the part where I spoke about construction. The modern tech allows me to swing faster! That’s the whole idea

[@Ken-ck4zn]

@@alexetchesgolf lol, sure dude.

[@Struieboy]

The shaft in the retro driver is probably a lot shorter than the 2024 one

[@alexetchesgolf]

It’s not 👍 I want to make excuses for it too

[@calebm2161]

Same shaft length? Same shaft? That BA Diamana is definitely gonna help out the new driver. The head itself really isn't gonna matter.
I can't believe you can hit an 8° driver bro 😂 I just worm burn those all day all night.

[@TheSlightlyaverage]

Love it 👍🏼

[@toneyo4794]

And yet retro players could still score! Go a little further back in time to the Taylor Made Burner. Smaller than your 3 wood. You get the idea how good the golf was then when you know how hard it was to hit a good shot.

[@alexetchesgolf]

It was different. Would retro players beat modern players with the new tech - IMO, I'd confidently say not even close. It's much more athletic now

[@toneyo4794]

@@alexetchesgolf yes I agree with you but if modern players had to go back in time it would be a much closer match.

[@kristopherjames1742]

@@toneyo4794 I'd love to see one event a year where everyone had to play vintage stuff. Maybe not hickory shaft and feathery vintage, but persimmons with balatas.

[@toneyo4794]

@@kristopherjames1742 yes that would be cool. I think today’s player would have a greater appreciation for players from the nineties and older.

[@scottdean27]

The Bubble just has way too many score lines creating too much spin, and a thicker face since they have developed the ability to thin out the face, and the perimeter walls as well over the decades.

[@alexetchesgolf]

More to do with the CG and construction than the score lines. Minimal perfect that will actually have but yeah, interesting design 😂

[@user-ot3zm2rz2x]

90s bertha vs new bertha

[@mcunha81]

Does this not prove that's it's not the ball it's the equipment, that's creating the distance,these days? Idk

[@alexetchesgolf]

I wouldn’t say so. Feel the ball is the most advanced thing we have in golf

[@thebigleone1066]

IMO, they should have left the game alone. The ball goes too far with modern clubs. It’s made a lot of classic courses obsolete. The longer courses take more time to play and generally have higher maintenance costs that must be passed to the player. I used to play 18 holes in 3 hours as a youth and I was walking. Baseball hasn’t changed and I don’t believe cricket has changed. Just saying.