So I have a question. Mine turns on, show the screen before you play the disc. When I push play it turns black with no sound and I have to skip to a higher chapter to make it work. What would I have to do to fix it? Thank you.
Great job, and your many years in the business really proves there is no replacement for hands on experience. How anyone can give you thumbs down is unreal.
More stories like these please! Grease, LDs & DVDs). A very interesting lecture. After 10 minutes or so, I thought, what else could be wrong with this Pioneer, 'cos you spotted the problem so quiclky, then I was into your stories and forgot about time.
Thank you so much for the breakdown of where to lubricate this machine. My Pioneer has been doing something similar for many years (usually though on mine a quick tap to the side gets it going). Now I can finally fix it
In addition to lubricating the slider track, I'd also recommend checking the condition of the plastic M-Holder (part no. VNL1779, discontinued) mounted on the pickup. Sometimes, one of the two plastic poles on the M-Holder holding each of the gears in place can break and cause problems with the slider mechanism on the pickup, likely due to strain on the mechanism due to dried lubrication on the track. Since the part is discontinued, you may have to repair the M-Holder so it can properly retain the gears for the slider mechanism if the M-Holder is broken.
@@ethangallo8480 In other words, people have endeavored to reproduce the parts via 3D printing. I figured that's the way it would have went eventually once the cost to do so had gone down. Amazing the progress that can be made with technology in three years, eh?
Great video...Funny about the grease, seeing as I just asked you earlier.LOL Just picked up a beast of a tv for my laser disc player for free..Sony KV-40XBR700 #300, wow
Ive been trying to find one of these models close to me for playing older gaming systems. Sure wouldnt want to pay for shipping one of these! A friend had a Sony 36" that stopped working. I told him i'd buy it as is but he threw it off a second story deck rather than carrying it down and busted the tube. =( But i did salvage the boards in case i needed them, some day. The picture on these is really good even compared to newer tvs.
I just picked it up today and I feel like a kid at christmas. Its gorgious. BUTTTT it weighs over 300 lbs...wow. It will also do 1080i. It was the biggest commercial crt ever made and the best some say
From looking at the DuPont application guide for the Molykote line, it sounds like the "slides and glides" application for metal-to-plastic and plastic-to-plastic contact, you probably want MOLYKOTE 33 Light or Medium Extreme Low Temperature Grease. These are both available in 5-oz tubes for $20-50 at numerous suppliers.
Great presentation. I have a few discs for posterity's sake off eBay quite a number of years ago. The player was a nice Pioneer but didn't last long. The trays wouldn't open. Tried to have it fixed. They couldn't figure it tout. I managed to record the very first release of Star Wars Ep IV with the 'authentic' film like with dust & scratches to DVD-R via a SONY TRV-30 Mini DV Camcorder with analog pass-thru to a Mac Pro to Movie to iDVD if I recall. I think I have all of the Star Wars releases incl the Definitive Edition black box wiht a book (I have the blue case VHS with an abridged book), Alien and Aliens SE and T2 SE in the black faux leather box with silver 3D logo (they also made one in gold) and a few others Some were scratched enough they wouldn't have played anyhow. At the end of this video $163 wholesale for 1941 in 1996 adjusted for inflation 2020 I'll wait for DVD technology and get it for $10 lol
Pretty amazing that in about 6 seconds, its' able to move the laser to the other side, AND stop an 1800 RPM spinning disk, then get it back up to 1800 RPM in the other direction. :D
Nice multi player, that laser mechanism is very clever but a simple enough to service :-D. I had a vague memory of the cav/clv methods, but it applied to computer readers/writers. I also knew that audio cd's slowed down so the laser always saw the same amount of material pass the laser. (Crude understanding on my part). 500rpm down to 200 i think for audio cd, memory has faded a bit lol. Four disks for a movie, thats special alright. Smashing that you have a great collection dave :-D. imagine if they had made recordable versions... A1 quality recordings with no bloody compression :-D. Shame that it didnt catch on,
They did have a recordable version. Not sold to consumers, but there was an industrial recorded. I looked at one once but decided against it. The unit was 4,500 and the blank disks that you could write to once were something like 70.00 each, and it recorded only in CAV mode, so 30 minutes max. It could write full video or a single frame at a time for archiving still images.
....19:45....has alot of these players. VS I've never seen one of these, but I've heard of them....27:00 .... these discs hold only one hour a side. Learned alot, super good video.
I used to work in a DVD Factory they melted down the plastic, made the data dies, made the data foil, made the two halves, assembled all together with lacquer, spinning at high speed then compressed together. silkscreen the disc & the whole shabang! You would have loved this place. I certainly did! :-) It was owned by Technicolor Universal Pictures & was located in Pinckneyville Illinois. Under different names like Mums, Technicolor. The entire process from plastic pellets to finished DVD's with case and all printed material was made there and would cost them around $0.19 ea "they told me" however that was not enough profit for them! The entire place shut down and moved to Mexico not too long after they made the movie (The Incredibles) There was even an idiot that snuck a copy of that movie out & put it on the internet before the movie came out While I worked there... and yes needless to say the movie got taken down immediately, the FBI got involved, the guy lost his job & probably ended up in prison! Some of the things people do??? I enjoyed working around that technology and was amazed at how much was involved from start to finish. The only thing I did not like about the place was ( but understandable) how tight the security was! Had to be searched from head to toe even take your shoes off but at the end they had a shoe scanner so we didn't have to do that anymore. You are right the dish is constructed of two halves plus the data foil & lacquer. people would be amazed how much is involved in the making of the simple DVD or laser disk or disc.
I have a 505 that sometimes fails to get the laser assembly into position when I load a disc. It starts to move, but then there's a sound like there's a blockage, and it ejects the disc tray. Only with LDs, though, CDs play fine. This explains what was going on inside. I found that a slight application of percussive maintenance (slapping both sides of the case at the same time) will dislodge the assembly past the sticking point. I guess some grease would be better for it in the long run, since I do see some glitching at the end of some CAV discs, and that's apparently caused by an alignment issue.
Love your videos. Molykote PG-641 grease is easy to find on Google and eBay - from China - however it is a 1kg can and expensive. Dow Corning has an active trademark on Molykote so it's legitimate.
Hey! Love the video! I just recently bought my first LD player... a Pioneer LD-V2200. It will turn on, it will eject to allow the tray to come out. I can put a disc in, but it grunts for a few seconds and the "Disc Set" light blinks on the front instead of staying solid. It won't spin the disc. Do you know what could be the problem? Thanks!
I have several Sony and Pioneer decks that will require at least some form of maintenance, even if it's just lubrication. This vid will help. Thanks. On a side note, can you do a video on basic oscilloscope use for video equipment? I just acquired a good working condition Tek 453 from a friend's estate and I'd like to use it with some of the equipment I have around here but have forgotten how to do so since I haven't used one since my old college days 30 years ago. Also, how is the digital one you got working out?
That's so cool that you were able to fix it! I have a Pioneer CLD V720. Disc loads and ejects, but the door sticks and I have to manually hold it open. Once loaded, the motor doesn't spin up after the laser moves in to sense the disc. Does anyone know of a repair person for these anymore? I looked it up and there doesn't appear to be any. I'm in California.
i happen to have a cld-d502 that has a power loss issue if left plugged in and on standby. if its plugged in and left on standby after several minutes it looses all power and then has to be unplugged and plugged back in for it to work otherwise it works pretty well.
@12voltvids I've got one Sony MDP 640D. When I put in the disc, the player recognises it and laser starts "searching" for something. But nothing happens. After a few times up and down the LD will be dropped out. What can I do to fix that issue? Kind regards
I have a CLD-D500 dual sided Pioneer laser, that used to work flawlessly for my wife's Karaoke LDs. We moved and now it will power on, tray works, CD or LD will load and start playing for 30 seconds or a minute at which point the unit turns itself off, including the standby light. I have to unplug the unit for 2 minutes or so and plug it back in at which point power is restored for the same amount of time. It turns off when no disc playing or just idling. I suspect something heat related. I repaired radios for the Air Force for many years, but no video experience and no test equipment beyond a basic multimeter. I suspect something heat related in power supply, but no schematics. Visual inspection does not reveal any bulging caps or loose connections. Any suggestions as to where to look for the fault will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the video. I have a Panasonic laserdisc player the tray does not open smoothly. I think I can grease it as you did. But the other problem is that it does not have sound. How to fix the sound problem?
I just picked up the CLD-D750, Viaduct Ray has trouble opening on its own but I can get it to open and I can put a disc in. It was spinning the disks earlier and now it’s not. I noticed the tray with a little when the disc starts to spin and now it’s not lifting. Any thoughts?
Nice video (like). I have a Pioneer laservision player ld v 2000. I haven't used it for years and was going to put it on ebay but when I opened the tray, it immediately went back into the player. There would be no time at all to load or to remove a disc. Do you have any idea why it would be doing this? Maybe you can use it. It has the remote and a mouse-like thing. Thanks for the video.
Interesting. My Pioneer had the trolly that physically turned over. I’ve never seen one where the trolly loops backwards on a track and flips that way. Interesting way to do it.
this is the type i have. I've been looking at it since i hooked it up a few days ago. when the lens goes to side B, the lens goes to the carriage, rotates 180 degrees and gets stuck in the carriage. I have to unplug the unit and it resets itself back to side A. certainly a head scratcher.
Wow this is my go to channel.. on electronic jargon on technical matters. 😆 sir please make more video on the (sony LaserDisc player, MDP 605 )model. 💿 In the past I've had issues with no picture plus blue screen and no sound but unit turns on. I've had any 5 technicians that would not want to touch this player. By fare this is my favorite LD player. I have two units of this model.
according to imdb the running time of the film 1941 is 1h 58m this means each side runs for around 15 minutes which when films were shown on two projectors with changeovers is more or less the running time of each reel but the directors cut is 2h 26
Most theatres had made the change to platter operation so the film would be built up on a single reel. The special edition I have had deleted scenes replaces.
Hey buddy nice video im going to re grease my players now after seeing this. But im hopeing you can help me with something. I have a PIONEER CLD-V2600 and it takes discs fine and once it starts to spin it starts to move fast and shuts off. I noticed that the laser assembly or pick up moves to read the disc than slides all the way back and looks almost like it hits the back of the case. It then makes a click noise then the player throes a E03 error at me and the spinning ramps down. The laser pick up is mounted between the two white tabs so i think its in there right but i noticed the white plastic ring around the optic lens is a little cracked. Any ideas how i can bring this back from the dead? I cleaned the rubber grip ring that holds the disc to spin it and i also cleaned the optic lens infrared lens and both belts .
I hope you see this. I have a Japanese Pioneer DVL 919. It worked when I bought it but in shipping. it stopped working back here in the states. The tray opens. CD, DVD, and LD spin but only for a few seconds and then it just stops and opens the tray. The only one that doesn't open is CD...it just stops. What can possibly be wrong? I opened it up and the LD spins for about 3 seconds and then stops and ejects. It does recognize the discs as well. So it knows its an LD, or DVD or CD and all content is Japanese media.
Hello. I have this same player I’ve had it for years but now it won’t play a disc it revs up like it’s going to play but it puts a HI word on the display. Is this an easy fix?
I have a Pioneer I got from eBay. I had to open it up and fix the tray not opening issue. After fixing it I can't get the power back on. It's just dead now. It came on once then dead again. Any suggestions??
Nice video. I have a pioneer DVL-909 that's still kickin'. I had to lubricate the rails recently but all is good and I occasionally have that belt slipping issue you addressed. I do have a question about the outputs. Mine has RGB outs but when I plugged in a RGB to VGA cable that I recently bought I am only getting a greyish green screen. I plugged the same cable into my DVD LG deck's RGB outs and it works perfectly. I notice that the LD player has Y Cb Cr but my LG DVD player has Y Pb Pr outs. would that be why? the screen is an Acer. the composite output works to my projector perfectly by the way
Dvd player has progressive out. Y PB pr indicates progressive. Y CB CR. Means component video (interlaced) now, since your laserdisk is an analog composite format, inside the player there is a circuit to decide the composite to component. Your monitor needs to be able to process a component interlaced signal. If the decoder in the laserdisk is working and you are getting the component red and blue signals out then the monitor is not capable of displaying interlaced component.
Another interesting video. I wonder why they just didn't use 2 laser pickups, one on each side? Cost? That's the only thing I can think of. Or would that have been possible if cost wasn't a concern? Just curious.
Cost probably. They would have to double everything. By using just 1 pickup for both sides the same servo circuits can be used. Just reverse the direction of the disk and flip the laser over.
i have a sony mdp k3 and the tilt motors, and sled motor, are running non-stop. I have already checked all switches and they are good. Do you know where the defect is? can you help me?
Of course they did as they were one of the pioneers in the field and manufactured laserdisk players right from the start to the end of production. Now before anyone nit picks as to who invented the laser disk, it was first demonstrated in 1972 by Philips (Magnavox) and MCA (discovision) In the USA MCA owned the rights to the trademark name Discovision, howevere philips marketed it under their name Laservision. The first commercial release was the movie "Jaws" under the MCA Discovision banner. Pioneer initially manufactured players for "Discovision" but they didn't develop the first player. From Wikipedia "Optical video recording technology, using a TRANSPARENT disc, was invented by David Paul Gregg and James Russell in 1958 (and patented in 1961 and 1990). The Gregg patents were purchased by MCA in 1968. By 1969, Philips had developed a videodisc in REFLECTIVE MODE, which has advantages over the transparent mode." Ultimately the reflective mode became the standard.
I recently got a Pioneer CLD-V510 and the picture either cuts out periodically or the color behaves badly. I've watched the discs many times on another machine and it isn't the discs. Could it be electrostatic discharge disrupting the video (and sometimes audio) signal?
Check capacitors in power supply for high ESR. That is the place to start. The caps start to fail and ripple from the power transformer gets into the video circuits and causes problems.
I have a 505 version of this that I received as a parts only with no explanation why just at the door wouldn't open machine. Upon opening it I found the laser was completely disconnected tons of plastic parts shattered on the inside. I don't really want to toss it in the bin but I was hoping to find maybe another Parts machine and make the best of two though I'm skeptical of spending another $50 on what could be another lost cause.
I have never paid more than 20 for any of these machines. Most i get for free. People put parts machines up asking high prices and I send them a message telling them what I am prepared to offer. Usually they tell me to pound sand and the they usually contact me months later and accept my offer which by this time has gone down substantially. When they say "bit you offered 20 before the answer is always the same. Got one for 10 from someone else and fixed my machine but I'll take yours for 10 now. Works pretty much every time.
LaserDisc can't compete with DVD in terms of picture quality, assuming the DVD is encoded at maximum bitrate (there are no visible compression artifacts at maximum bitrate). NTSC LD has 425 TVL of luma resolution, and up to 160 TVL of chroma resolution (though most players and/or TVs-via-their-composite-input used low cost comb filters which could only decode 40 TVL of chroma resolution), and it's interlaced. On the other hand, NTSC DVD is 720 x 480 resolution, progressive (you need a progressive scan DVD player and at least a 31 kHz TV for progressive scan though; on a standard 15 kHz TV you have to use interlaced mode). Color is component (YCbCr, 4:2:0 chroma subsampling, 8 bits per color), which in analog terms would translate to about 240 TVL of chroma resolution. So DVD has significantly higher luma and color resolution than DVD, as well as far superior color separation due to its video signal being component rather than composite, and it's progressive rather than interlaced. As for sound, many LaserDiscs had Redbook CD-spec audio (2-channel, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz, uncompressed LPCM). The DVD standard supports that type of audio (in 48 kHz form), but I don't know of any Hollywood DVD release that used it, because it takes up so much space. The vast majority of DVDs have AC-3 audio (AC-3 = lossy compression), at a maximum bitrate of 96 kbps per channel (which = 192 kbps for a 2-channel track). So LDs commonly had better sound than DVDs, at least with regard to mono or stereo tracks. With regard to 5.1 AC-3 tracks, with LDs that had them, they were usually 384 kbps (64 kbps per channel), while with DVDs that had them, they were usually 448 kbps (74.67 kbps per channel), so DVD wins there. With regard to 5.1 DTS tracks, with LDs that had them, they were usually 1,235 kbps (205.83 kbps per channel), while with DVDs that had them, they were usually 768 kbps (128 kbps per channel), so LD wins there.
Keep cranking up the (spindle) motor speed, and you’ll end up with a razordisk player! 😆 Just remember, if you can’t grease your rails, whose rails can you grease? 😎
ED beta had a good picture, but it was still a color under system where the color is converted down to 688KHz and is bandwidth limited. It is then converted back to the 3.58mhz on playback like all video tape formats. Laserdisk recorded a direct composite signal like 1" video tape. No bandwidth limiting on the chroma signal. So yes ED Beta had a good picture, as did S-VHS, but laser disk was still considerably better.
Try a motor factors these grease sachets come with uj driveshaft boots they might sell a tin of it also try an independent car repairer not a dealership they might have some of the sachets as they usually use grease from a tin
My pioneer cld-v820 was working perfectly but then I put in a dvd and now it won’t eject, the buttons show visually that they’re being pressed but they don’t seem to function anyone find themselves in the same predicament?
Good morning, I found my laser dish has one of the rolling plastic broken, I stick it together but I also find two of the plastic wheels that look like it goes attached to it. This is the last plastic screw you put the grease on. I would like to get it all together, I learn with you. Thank you! Please I wanna play karaoke with my daughter, we love it. I am about to open up the other laser so I can see why it doesn't also play. Sad, people slam it while I move from one place to another. Waiting for your response. You may use Vaseline petroleum on it as well.
I have one 8 inch Laserdisc, a music video disc for the band "Spinal Tap", containing the videos for 'Bitch School', and The Majesty of Rock' It is actually a single-layer disc, being the same thickness as a CD.
Philips was available in North America. They built stuff in Ontario. My grandmother's first color tv was a Philips. That was 1968, a Philips k6 full tube job. Philips also owned Magnavox and sold product under both names. I believe the Magnavox brand was more prevelant in the USA, but in Canada there were Philips dealers and Magnavox dealers. My parents first color set in 1970 was also a Philips, a modular 4 hybrid. I actually learned to service tvs on those 2 sets. They were pretty unreliable. Every time you turned around something broke on them. The Philips service man told my grandmother in the early 70s that her tube set was not worth fixing so i got into it when I was about 14 and tinkered. How I didn't electrocute myself is a miracle. Actually how I am still is a miracle considering how many times i received big time shocks when I was in the business.
Is that the one that had the digital processing. One of them did and I forget the model, but basically theu digitized the video and then converted it back to analog again so it could so special effects like slo mo, and freeze on CLV recorded disks. The digital board devolops problems, usually bad SME caps and that causes it to produce a bad picture. I have never fixed the module. The only time I saw one was under warranty and the board was swapped.
12voltvids thank you very much! Yes that’s the one. So bad capacitors? I have a back up cld-2090 but still sad it’s a cool player but I think the pic quality on the 2090 is even better
Still have that laserdisc collection? I started collecting laserdiscs about 17 years ago and I could pick up discs for like 2 bucks. Now that people are collecting these old formats the price is going up and up, unfortunately.
Hi, I have a Pioneer CLD-S360 , it opens but when I press play it automatically goes to STOP everytime ... It didn't play ... even the vcd didn't play ... PLEASE help , thanks in advance
I bought one for $200 and it will not even open to put in a LaserDisc in. DVD LD PLAYER DVL-909 - PIONEER MFD MAY 1998 It will not even open! Can it be fixed?
The difference between laser disc and dvd is like a wav file and a mp3. The wav isn't compressed nor is the very highs and lows are cut out like a mp3. 1941 is one of my favorite movies.
"The difference between laser disc and dvd is like a wav file and a mp3." Not even remotely. A typical MP3 is sourced from a CD, so it's a compressed version of an uncompressed LPCM (WAV) track from the CD. Also, MP3s and WAVs are both digital. Retail DVDs aren't made by capturing the video from a LaserDisc and then compressing it. They are made directly from masters which are far higher quality than both LaserDisc and DVD. A full-spec DVD video stream is superior to a LaserDisc's in every way: higher resolution, progressive instead of interlaced, higher color resolution, and encoded with a component signal (YCbCr) instead of a composite signal (CVBS) for far better color separation. On the other hand, LaserDiscs usually have better quality audio than DVDs.
Would you please check out my short laserdisc player video? It jams when flipping over. After watching your video, I think it might just need grease. Just want your opinion if you think that might be the issue. I would like your opinion before I open it back up again. Thank you.
Update. I tried to apply grease. After doing that I was able to rotate the mechanism without the sled on it. Now it will only eject and close. The laser moves twice and stops. It doesn't try to flip any more and the disc doesn't spin at all. It's almost like it doesn't detect a disc. I turned my mild inconvenience into a completely broken machine. Any ideas how to fix
I have both a pioneer and Panasonic laser disc players. Neither one will play side two. Possibly a lubrication problem? I also have an extensive collection too. Any alternative grease other than the lithium grease that I can get at Home Depot? Please don’t laugh. lol.
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Sir it is very important video because I am an laserdisc repair mechanic the mechanisim is to hard to repair good job
I love your videos man, keep it up!!!!
So I have a question. Mine turns on, show the screen before you play the disc. When I push play it turns black with no sound and I have to skip to a higher chapter to make it work. What would I have to do to fix it? Thank you.
I have a broken laserdisc player. How can I contact you to get it fixed?
I remember the laser disk player we had in high school, in the library, we watched educational videos most of the time. Those machines are cool!
Great job, and your many years in the business really proves there is no replacement for hands on experience. How anyone can give you thumbs down is unreal.
They are called trolls. Just like the guy that thinks he knows where I live and has been releasing an address I lived at over 20 years ago
I guess jealousy knows no bounds.
to quote Lynyrd Skynyrd You got that right.
@@12voltvids actually I wouldn't mind knowing where you live if you wanted to try repairing my sony LD player.
I just want it to find a good home.
Great and informative teardown with fascinating laserdisc facts. Love your channel!
fantastic episode, thanks. Absolutely love the laser disc technology!
GREAT VIDEO - the best insight into Laserdisc I have seen on CZcams.
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More stories like these please! Grease, LDs & DVDs). A very interesting lecture. After 10 minutes or so, I thought, what else could be wrong with this Pioneer, 'cos you spotted the problem so quiclky, then I was into your stories and forgot about time.
"Has to be a record". I think it's a LaserDisc :-)
I really enjoy your channel. It's inspired me to repair things. Thank you.
Thank you so much for the breakdown of where to lubricate this machine. My Pioneer has been doing something similar for many years (usually though on mine a quick tap to the side gets it going). Now I can finally fix it
In addition to lubricating the slider track, I'd also recommend checking the condition of the plastic M-Holder (part no. VNL1779, discontinued) mounted on the pickup. Sometimes, one of the two plastic poles on the M-Holder holding each of the gears in place can break and cause problems with the slider mechanism on the pickup, likely due to strain on the mechanism due to dried lubrication on the track.
Since the part is discontinued, you may have to repair the M-Holder so it can properly retain the gears for the slider mechanism if the M-Holder is broken.
Unless, by chance, someone started making them again :) Look on eBay.
@@ethangallo8480 In other words, people have endeavored to reproduce the parts via 3D printing.
I figured that's the way it would have went eventually once the cost to do so had gone down.
Amazing the progress that can be made with technology in three years, eh?
Thanks for posting this! With your help I was able to fix my CLD-D604!
Lifesaver, thank you. Will give my player a go and hopefully get to watch a movie in full analog glory.
Ive never seen a dual layer disc or player. kinda cool but i see where the problems could arise with the laser flip. thanks for sharing!
Great video...Funny about the grease, seeing as I just asked you earlier.LOL Just picked up a beast of a tv for my laser disc player for free..Sony KV-40XBR700
#300, wow
Ive been trying to find one of these models close to me for playing older gaming systems. Sure wouldnt want to pay for shipping one of these! A friend had a Sony 36" that stopped working. I told him i'd buy it as is but he threw it off a second story deck rather than carrying it down and busted the tube. =( But i did salvage the boards in case i needed them, some day. The picture on these is really good even compared to newer tvs.
I just picked it up today and I feel like a kid at christmas. Its gorgious. BUTTTT it weighs over 300 lbs...wow. It will also do 1080i. It was the biggest commercial crt ever made and the best some say
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I really hope to own one of these units one day soon.
I have this model. Now I know what to do. Thank you.
Thanks for this video! I've fixed my son's Pioneer CLD-D 515:D.
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From looking at the DuPont application guide for the Molykote line, it sounds like the "slides and glides" application for metal-to-plastic and plastic-to-plastic contact, you probably want MOLYKOTE 33 Light or Medium Extreme Low Temperature Grease. These are both available in 5-oz tubes for $20-50 at numerous suppliers.
Great presentation. I have a few discs for posterity's sake off eBay quite a number of years ago. The player was a nice Pioneer but didn't last long. The trays wouldn't open. Tried to have it fixed. They couldn't figure it tout. I managed to record the very first release of Star Wars Ep IV with the 'authentic' film like with dust & scratches to DVD-R via a SONY TRV-30 Mini DV Camcorder with analog pass-thru to a Mac Pro to Movie to iDVD if I recall. I think I have all of the Star Wars releases incl the Definitive Edition black box wiht a book (I have the blue case VHS with an abridged book), Alien and Aliens SE and T2 SE in the black faux leather box with silver 3D logo (they also made one in gold) and a few others Some were scratched enough they wouldn't have played anyhow. At the end of this video $163 wholesale for 1941 in 1996 adjusted for inflation 2020 I'll wait for DVD technology and get it for $10 lol
An elementary and high school I attended had these. I wish I had one. Most of the ones I saw were nearly never used.
Pretty amazing that in about 6 seconds, its' able to move the laser to the other side, AND stop an 1800 RPM spinning disk, then get it back up to 1800 RPM in the other direction. :D
Nice multi player, that laser mechanism is very clever but a simple enough to service :-D.
I had a vague memory of the cav/clv methods, but it applied to computer readers/writers.
I also knew that audio cd's slowed down so the laser always saw the same amount of material pass the laser. (Crude understanding on my part).
500rpm down to 200 i think for audio cd, memory has faded a bit lol.
Four disks for a movie, thats special alright.
Smashing that you have a great collection dave :-D.
imagine if they had made recordable versions... A1 quality recordings with no bloody compression :-D.
Shame that it didnt catch on,
They did have a recordable version. Not sold to consumers, but there was an industrial recorded. I looked at one once but decided against it. The unit was 4,500 and the blank disks that you could write to once were something like 70.00 each, and it recorded only in CAV mode, so 30 minutes max. It could write full video or a single frame at a time for archiving still images.
I love the upside-down turtle that many laserdiscs had on a side that had no content on it.
That was a pioneer only thing. Those disks were pressed by pioneer in Japan.
I always liked the LaserDisc (correct spelling) format. Definitely a cool feature of the 1980s.
....19:45....has alot of these players. VS I've never seen one of these, but I've heard of them....27:00 .... these discs hold only one hour a side. Learned alot, super good video.
I used to work in a DVD Factory they melted down the plastic, made the data dies, made the data foil, made the two halves, assembled all together with lacquer, spinning at high speed then compressed together. silkscreen the disc & the whole shabang!
You would have loved this place. I certainly did! :-)
It was owned by Technicolor Universal Pictures & was located in Pinckneyville Illinois. Under different names like Mums, Technicolor.
The entire process from plastic pellets to finished DVD's with case and all printed material was made there and would cost them around $0.19 ea "they told me" however that was not enough profit for them!
The entire place shut down and moved to Mexico not too long after they made the movie (The Incredibles)
There was even an idiot that snuck a copy of that movie out & put it on the internet before the movie came out While I worked there... and yes needless to say the movie got taken down immediately, the FBI got involved, the guy lost his job & probably ended up in prison!
Some of the things people do???
I enjoyed working around that technology and was amazed at how much was involved from start to finish. The only thing I did not like about the place was ( but understandable) how tight the security was! Had to be searched from head to toe even take your shoes off but at the end they had a shoe scanner so we didn't have to do that anymore.
You are right the dish is constructed of two halves plus the data foil & lacquer.
people would be amazed how much is involved in the making of the simple DVD or laser disk or disc.
I have a 505 that sometimes fails to get the laser assembly into position when I load a disc. It starts to move, but then there's a sound like there's a blockage, and it ejects the disc tray. Only with LDs, though, CDs play fine. This explains what was going on inside.
I found that a slight application of percussive maintenance (slapping both sides of the case at the same time) will dislodge the assembly past the sticking point. I guess some grease would be better for it in the long run, since I do see some glitching at the end of some CAV discs, and that's apparently caused by an alignment issue.
Love your videos. Molykote PG-641 grease is easy to find on Google and eBay - from China - however it is a 1kg can and expensive. Dow Corning has an active trademark on Molykote so it's legitimate.
Hey! Love the video! I just recently bought my first LD player... a Pioneer LD-V2200. It will turn on, it will eject to allow the tray to come out. I can put a disc in, but it grunts for a few seconds and the "Disc Set" light blinks on the front instead of staying solid. It won't spin the disc. Do you know what could be the problem?
Thanks!
I have several Sony and Pioneer decks that will require at least some form of maintenance, even if it's just lubrication. This vid will help. Thanks. On a side note, can you do a video on basic oscilloscope use for video equipment? I just acquired a good working condition Tek 453 from a friend's estate and I'd like to use it with some of the equipment I have around here but have forgotten how to do so since I haven't used one since my old college days 30 years ago. Also, how is the digital one you got working out?
That's so cool that you were able to fix it! I have a Pioneer CLD V720. Disc loads and ejects, but the door sticks and I have to manually hold it open. Once loaded, the motor doesn't spin up after the laser moves in to sense the disc. Does anyone know of a repair person for these anymore? I looked it up and there doesn't appear to be any. I'm in California.
i happen to have a cld-d502 that has a power loss issue if left plugged in and on standby. if its plugged in and left on standby after several minutes it looses all power and then has to be unplugged and plugged back in for it to work otherwise it works pretty well.
Amazon carries some Molykote grease varieties. It is made by Dow Chemical.
Good to know.
It seems a bit pricey,BUT I am willing to pay for quality
Great job! My flip mechanism won't rise to the top without assistance. When the player is on its side, it comes up fine. Any ideas?
I would love to have a Laser Disk player (multi format. CD, VCD, DVD etc) along with some Laser movies.
you can get different formulas of molykote online and at some hardware stores.
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@12voltvids I've got one Sony MDP 640D. When I put in the disc, the player recognises it and laser starts "searching" for something. But nothing happens. After a few times up and down the LD will be dropped out. What can I do to fix that issue? Kind regards
I also have a Sony that wont output proper sound. Apparently sony never figured out how to make reliable plyers like Pioneer.
I have a CLD-D500 dual sided Pioneer laser, that used to work flawlessly for my wife's Karaoke LDs. We moved and now it will power on, tray works, CD or LD will load and start playing for 30 seconds or a minute at which point the unit turns itself off, including the standby light. I have to unplug the unit for 2 minutes or so and plug it back in at which point power is restored for the same amount of time. It turns off when no disc playing or just idling. I suspect something heat related. I repaired radios for the Air Force for many years, but no video experience and no test equipment beyond a basic multimeter. I suspect something heat related in power supply, but no schematics. Visual inspection does not reveal any bulging caps or loose connections. Any suggestions as to where to look for the fault will be greatly appreciated.
Great video!!!!!
Thanks for the video. I have a Panasonic laserdisc player the tray does not open smoothly. I think I can grease it as you did. But the other problem is that it does not have sound. How to fix the sound problem?
I just picked up the CLD-D750, Viaduct Ray has trouble opening on its own but I can get it to open and I can put a disc in. It was spinning the disks earlier and now it’s not. I noticed the tray with a little when the disc starts to spin and now it’s not lifting. Any thoughts?
Nice video (like). I have a Pioneer laservision player ld v 2000. I haven't used it for years and was going to put it on ebay but when I opened the tray, it immediately went back into the player. There would be no time at all to load or to remove a disc. Do you have any idea why it would be doing this? Maybe you can use it. It has the remote and a mouse-like thing. Thanks for the video.
Interesting. My Pioneer had the trolly that physically turned over. I’ve never seen one where the trolly loops backwards on a track and flips that way. Interesting way to do it.
Yes I believe my combo LD and DVD unit it flips over too. I will have to dig that one out of storage and open it up and show it off.
this is the type i have. I've been looking at it since i hooked it up a few days ago. when the lens goes to side B, the lens goes to the carriage, rotates 180 degrees and gets stuck in the carriage. I have to unplug the unit and it resets itself back to side A. certainly a head scratcher.
I have this unit. The tray opens but Laser Discs and CDs do not spin once closed. Any idea the problem?
Wow this is my go to channel.. on electronic jargon on technical matters. 😆 sir please make more video on the (sony LaserDisc player, MDP 605 )model. 💿
In the past I've had issues with no picture plus blue screen and no sound but unit turns on. I've had any 5 technicians that would not want to touch this player. By fare this is my favorite LD player. I have two units of this model.
Let you in on a little secret. I can only make videos on equipment i have.
@@12voltvidswow cool sir perhaps may I send one down that way how much would you charge on repairing one?.
@@brianherrera4383 no guarantee i can fix it. No parts available.
according to imdb the running time of the film 1941 is 1h 58m this means each side runs for around 15 minutes which when films were shown on two projectors with changeovers is more or less the running time of each reel but the directors cut is 2h 26
Most theatres had made the change to platter operation so the film would be built up on a single reel. The special edition I have had deleted scenes replaces.
Nice job.
Hey buddy nice video im going to re grease my players now after seeing this. But im hopeing you can help me with something. I have a PIONEER CLD-V2600 and it takes discs fine and once it starts to spin it starts to move fast and shuts off. I noticed that the laser assembly or pick up moves to read the disc than slides all the way back and looks almost like it hits the back of the case. It then makes a click noise then the player throes a E03 error at me and the spinning ramps down. The laser pick up is mounted between the two white tabs so i think its in there right but i noticed the white plastic ring around the optic lens is a little cracked. Any ideas how i can bring this back from the dead? I cleaned the rubber grip ring that holds the disc to spin it and i also cleaned the optic lens infrared lens and both belts .
I wonder if Permatex anti seize would work? It's mainly intended for hi temp brake repairs on cars.
Anti seize doesn't tend to be a good lubricant. (i'm in industrial maintenance)
I hope you see this. I have a Japanese Pioneer DVL 919. It worked when I bought it but in shipping. it stopped working back here in the states. The tray opens. CD, DVD, and LD spin but only for a few seconds and then it just stops and opens the tray. The only one that doesn't open is CD...it just stops. What can possibly be wrong? I opened it up and the LD spins for about 3 seconds and then stops and ejects. It does recognize the discs as well. So it knows its an LD, or DVD or CD and all content is Japanese media.
My pioneer is coming up with a u1 error code and it open/closes ok it seems. What should I check when I open it up to maybe fix the issue???
Hello. I have this same player I’ve had it for years but now it won’t play a disc it revs up like it’s going to play but it puts a HI word on the display. Is this an easy fix?
I have a Pioneer I got from eBay. I had to open it up and fix the tray not opening issue. After fixing it I can't get the power back on. It's just dead now. It came on once then dead again. Any suggestions??
Nice video. I have a pioneer DVL-909 that's still kickin'. I had to lubricate the rails recently but all is good and I occasionally have that belt slipping issue you addressed.
I do have a question about the outputs. Mine has RGB outs but when I plugged in a RGB to VGA cable that I recently bought I am only getting a greyish green screen. I plugged the same cable into my DVD LG deck's RGB outs and it works perfectly. I notice that the LD player has Y Cb Cr but my LG DVD player has Y Pb Pr outs. would that be why? the screen is an Acer. the composite output works to my projector perfectly by the way
Dvd player has progressive out. Y PB pr indicates progressive.
Y CB CR. Means component video (interlaced) now, since your laserdisk is an analog composite format, inside the player there is a circuit to decide the composite to component. Your monitor needs to be able to process a component interlaced signal. If the decoder in the laserdisk is working and you are getting the component red and blue signals out then the monitor is not capable of displaying interlaced component.
where do I put my grease if the drawer will not open? I have not played my ld player in a decade and now it will not open. Thanks in advance
Another interesting video. I wonder why they just didn't use 2 laser pickups, one on each side? Cost? That's the only thing I can think of. Or would that have been possible if cost wasn't a concern?
Just curious.
Cost probably. They would have to double everything. By using just 1 pickup for both sides the same servo circuits can be used. Just reverse the direction of the disk and flip the laser over.
Found sources for that grease in less than 30 seconds.
i have a sony mdp k3 and the tilt motors, and sled motor, are running non-stop. I have already checked all switches and they are good. Do you know where the defect is? can you help me?
Pioneers are made like tanks. Of course it'd only have minor issues here and there anyway. They made the BEST LaserDisc players known to man imo.
Of course they did as they were one of the pioneers in the field and manufactured laserdisk players right from the start to the end of production.
Now before anyone nit picks as to who invented the laser disk, it was first demonstrated in 1972 by Philips (Magnavox) and MCA (discovision)
In the USA MCA owned the rights to the trademark name Discovision, howevere philips marketed it under their name Laservision. The first commercial release was the movie "Jaws" under the MCA Discovision banner.
Pioneer initially manufactured players for "Discovision" but they didn't develop the first player.
From Wikipedia
"Optical video recording technology, using a TRANSPARENT disc, was invented by David Paul Gregg and James Russell in 1958 (and patented in 1961 and 1990). The Gregg patents were purchased by MCA in 1968. By 1969, Philips had developed a videodisc in REFLECTIVE MODE, which has advantages over the transparent mode."
Ultimately the reflective mode became the standard.
At 0:24, your cat meows!
I just got rid of a dead Pioneer LD. But my Panasonic works great.
I have one too,I want to fix it ,Can you teach me how to remove front control panel
I recently got a Pioneer CLD-V510 and the picture either cuts out periodically or the color behaves badly. I've watched the discs many times on another machine and it isn't the discs.
Could it be electrostatic discharge disrupting the video (and sometimes audio) signal?
Check capacitors in power supply for high ESR. That is the place to start. The caps start to fail and ripple from the power transformer gets into the video circuits and causes problems.
Hey there, I got an e0 slider error even after replacing the lens. I wonder what is the problem causing it?
Have no idea
Where did you get the molykote? 😂 Just kidding.. love you sir!!
I have a 505 version of this that I received as a parts only with no explanation why just at the door wouldn't open machine. Upon opening it I found the laser was completely disconnected tons of plastic parts shattered on the inside. I don't really want to toss it in the bin but I was hoping to find maybe another Parts machine and make the best of two though I'm skeptical of spending another $50 on what could be another lost cause.
I have never paid more than 20 for any of these machines. Most i get for free. People put parts machines up asking high prices and I send them a message telling them what I am prepared to offer. Usually they tell me to pound sand and the they usually contact me months later and accept my offer which by this time has gone down substantially. When they say "bit you offered 20 before the answer is always the same. Got one for 10 from someone else and fixed my machine but I'll take yours for 10 now. Works pretty much every time.
I have a pioneer cld d-605 been sitting around for 15 years, I try to turn on yesterday’s. No power, what can I do
open it up and check the 4 fuses for breaks in the filements..usually this is problem...they are different voltage 2 and 2..good luck
LaserDisc can't compete with DVD in terms of picture quality, assuming the DVD is encoded at maximum bitrate (there are no visible compression artifacts at maximum bitrate). NTSC LD has 425 TVL of luma resolution, and up to 160 TVL of chroma resolution (though most players and/or TVs-via-their-composite-input used low cost comb filters which could only decode 40 TVL of chroma resolution), and it's interlaced.
On the other hand, NTSC DVD is 720 x 480 resolution, progressive (you need a progressive scan DVD player and at least a 31 kHz TV for progressive scan though; on a standard 15 kHz TV you have to use interlaced mode). Color is component (YCbCr, 4:2:0 chroma subsampling, 8 bits per color), which in analog terms would translate to about 240 TVL of chroma resolution. So DVD has significantly higher luma and color resolution than DVD, as well as far superior color separation due to its video signal being component rather than composite, and it's progressive rather than interlaced.
As for sound, many LaserDiscs had Redbook CD-spec audio (2-channel, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz, uncompressed LPCM). The DVD standard supports that type of audio (in 48 kHz form), but I don't know of any Hollywood DVD release that used it, because it takes up so much space. The vast majority of DVDs have AC-3 audio (AC-3 = lossy compression), at a maximum bitrate of 96 kbps per channel (which = 192 kbps for a 2-channel track). So LDs commonly had better sound than DVDs, at least with regard to mono or stereo tracks.
With regard to 5.1 AC-3 tracks, with LDs that had them, they were usually 384 kbps (64 kbps per channel), while with DVDs that had them, they were usually 448 kbps (74.67 kbps per channel), so DVD wins there.
With regard to 5.1 DTS tracks, with LDs that had them, they were usually 1,235 kbps (205.83 kbps per channel), while with DVDs that had them, they were usually 768 kbps (128 kbps per channel), so LD wins there.
pioneer cld-53 problem it will spin then will stop and eject....any solution?
Keep cranking up the (spindle) motor speed, and you’ll end up with a razordisk player! 😆 Just remember, if you can’t grease your rails, whose rails can you grease? 😎
its a good film mate
Now that’s an original watch!
🇨🇦😁
ED Beta didn't have the best quality of any analog consumer formats?
ED beta had a good picture, but it was still a color under system where the color is converted down to 688KHz and is bandwidth limited. It is then converted back to the 3.58mhz on playback like all video tape formats. Laserdisk recorded a direct composite signal like 1" video tape. No bandwidth limiting on the chroma signal. So yes ED Beta had a good picture, as did S-VHS, but laser disk was still considerably better.
Have noise be laser does not turn help
Can you fix my lazerdisc player
Try a motor factors these grease sachets come with uj driveshaft boots they might sell a tin of it also try an independent car repairer not a dealership they might have some of the sachets as they usually use grease from a tin
I work on Xboxs and ran across this beast and I was like what the he'll never seen one of these before
My pioneer cld-v820 was working perfectly but then I put in a dvd and now it won’t eject, the buttons show visually that they’re being pressed but they don’t seem to function anyone find themselves in the same predicament?
Good morning, I found my laser dish has one of the rolling plastic broken, I stick it together but I also find two of the plastic wheels that look like it goes attached to it. This is the last plastic screw you put the grease on. I would like to get it all together, I learn with you. Thank you! Please I wanna play karaoke with my daughter, we love it. I am about to open up the other laser so I can see why it doesn't also play. Sad, people slam it while I move from one place to another. Waiting for your response. You may use Vaseline petroleum on it as well.
Hey if you want another pioneer for parts it works the drawer doing its thing
CLD D504
I have one 8 inch Laserdisc, a music video disc for the band "Spinal Tap", containing the videos for 'Bitch School', and The Majesty of Rock' It is actually a single-layer disc, being the same thickness as a CD.
molykote is available , and surprisingly even in india. but the rubber softner chemical is not available in india
Wasn't Magnavox a Philips brand? Because they couldn't use the name "Philips" in the US due to it being similar to "Philco"?
Philips was available in North America. They built stuff in Ontario. My grandmother's first color tv was a Philips. That was 1968, a Philips k6 full tube job. Philips also owned Magnavox and sold product under both names. I believe the Magnavox brand was more prevelant in the USA, but in Canada there were Philips dealers and Magnavox dealers. My parents first color set in 1970 was also a Philips, a modular 4 hybrid. I actually learned to service tvs on those 2 sets. They were pretty unreliable. Every time you turned around something broke on them. The Philips service man told my grandmother in the early 70s that her tube set was not worth fixing so i got into it when I was about 14 and tinkered. How I didn't electrocute myself is a miracle. Actually how I am still is a miracle considering how many times i received big time shocks when I was in the business.
i have a Pioneer DVL 919, why is the picture all pixellated and smeared like 8 bit color? Laser going bad?
Is that the one that had the digital processing. One of them did and I forget the model, but basically theu digitized the video and then converted it back to analog again so it could so special effects like slo mo, and freeze on CLV recorded disks. The digital board devolops problems, usually bad SME caps and that causes it to produce a bad picture. I have never fixed the module. The only time I saw one was under warranty and the board was swapped.
12voltvids thank you very much! Yes that’s the one. So bad capacitors? I have a back up cld-2090 but still sad it’s a cool player but I think the pic quality on the 2090 is even better
Still have that laserdisc collection? I started collecting laserdiscs about 17 years ago and I could pick up discs for like 2 bucks. Now that people are collecting these old formats the price is going up and up, unfortunately.
Yes still have the collection and several are rare as hens teeth. Have the 3 original star wars, all the old banned Disney classics.
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Hi, I have a Pioneer CLD-S360 , it opens but when I press play it automatically goes to STOP everytime ... It didn't play ... even the vcd didn't play ... PLEASE help , thanks in advance
I bought one for $200 and it will not even open to put in a LaserDisc in.
DVD LD PLAYER DVL-909 - PIONEER MFD MAY 1998
It will not even open! Can it be fixed?
Probably something wrong with the gears on the disc tray. Unscrew the top cover and see if you can detect what isnt working when you try eject.
Am trying to fine a repair center in El Paso Texas
The difference between laser disc and dvd is like a wav file and a mp3. The wav isn't compressed nor is the very highs and lows are cut out like a mp3. 1941 is one of my favorite movies.
"The difference between laser disc and dvd is like a wav file and a mp3."
Not even remotely. A typical MP3 is sourced from a CD, so it's a compressed version of an uncompressed LPCM (WAV) track from the CD. Also, MP3s and WAVs are both digital. Retail DVDs aren't made by capturing the video from a LaserDisc and then compressing it. They are made directly from masters which are far higher quality than both LaserDisc and DVD.
A full-spec DVD video stream is superior to a LaserDisc's in every way: higher resolution, progressive instead of interlaced, higher color resolution, and encoded with a component signal (YCbCr) instead of a composite signal (CVBS) for far better color separation. On the other hand, LaserDiscs usually have better quality audio than DVDs.
You can find MolyKote on ebay.
Good to know. I have enough to last me for awhile.
Figured that the viewers may liked to know, i do enjoy the videos..
Right, and I am sure they appreciate this. Good info.
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Would you please check out my short laserdisc player video? It jams when flipping over. After watching your video, I think it might just need grease. Just want your opinion if you think that might be the issue. I would like your opinion before I open it back up again. Thank you.
Do you have a CZcams link for it? I don't accept direct files.
@@12voltvids czcams.com/video/-DjcCXEK_Bg/video.htmlsi=vnS-SgaInyl9IGtY
Update. I tried to apply grease. After doing that I was able to rotate the mechanism without the sled on it. Now it will only eject and close. The laser moves twice and stops. It doesn't try to flip any more and the disc doesn't spin at all. It's almost like it doesn't detect a disc. I turned my mild inconvenience into a completely broken machine. Any ideas how to fix
I have both a pioneer and Panasonic laser disc players. Neither one will play side two. Possibly a lubrication problem? I also have an extensive collection too. Any alternative grease other than the lithium grease that I can get at Home Depot? Please don’t laugh. lol.
Do watch "1941". Good movie.
Try SuperLube.
Thank you... I am now watching the original star wars the way God intended... crappy video and sound. It is glorious lol
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