Ranking the Maps of Hitman's World of Assassination Trilogy
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- This is a long-awaited publication on my channel. Apologies for the wait for those of you who have been asking, let's get ranking the maps!
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:52 20th
1:47 19th
2:34 18th
3:30 17th
4:23 16th
5:00 15th
6:34 14th
7:13 13th
8:06 12th
9:14 11th
10:17 10th
11:30 9th
12:38 8th
14:03 7th
15:28 6th
16:54 5th
18:25 4th
19:52 3rd
21:24 2nd
22:41 1st
24:02 Final Thoughts & Outro
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What is your favourite map in the Hitman WoA Trilogy?
Dubai is a banger
Mendoza ended up being my favorite. The best kills (that grape crusher is brutal) , the best setting, the best story, very replayable , and interesting targets. You can work with Diana to take out those targets too. Theres the perfect level of security without it being too held down. To me, it’s a combination of all the best elements from the maps before it.
As a mission I do like it, even if out of the Hitman III maps it’s likely the map I have played the least.
Whittleton Creek, Mendoza, Miami
miami
idk why the algorithm brought me here but its a long enough video to watch while I eat my pizza, so thanks.I played Berlin on acid once 10/10 would recommend
Pizza viewing is what I aim for 🙏
@@Non-ym3gx i never played games on acid but the last time i ate mushrooms i watched the same episode of 'Cosmos' 5 times in a row without noticed it!
@@Non-ym3gx respect to you bro when I played Hitman tripping I found it so stressful, I played it on Miami too
respect to you bro when I played Hitman tripping I found it so stressful, I played it on Miami too
Finally someone who enjoys Berlin’s map as much as I do! It will always be my favorite map
I love lists like this because I can hear a variety of opinions on these maps. I disagree with most of the map placements, but I definitely respect the logic behind each one of these decisions.
For me, Mendoza hits the spot. It’s calm, it feels like the ”farewell” where you can chill and have fun. The mission stories fun and the style of the map allows for fun kills. I think the targets are not the best, but one killing the other is almost better than killing one with the other. Just a great overall map for a chill casual playthrough.
yes
I was shocked that Berlin was your number 1 map, but it makes alot of sense. I think it's just that map that came out of nowhere in Hitman 3, but somehow left a bigger mark on most players than the maps that we thought would be better based on trailers.
I think it still has a lot of potential, I’m hopeful in the long run it’ll be one of those maps you’ll see contracts on a lot.
@@JJsProductionsTwitch Yeah definitely, I hope IO try and give this map the attention that maps like Sapienza and Miami recieved. I would argue that while Berlin was the best designed map in Hitman 3, it was the main mission design that makes me love this map so much.
It gets boring pretty quick. :/ too few challanges. This is for every hitman 3 map. Damn this game was so easy to 100%
I’ll agree the challenges on Berlin are small. I tried not to look at what the game offers the player though and what the map offers if that makes sense?
Dartmoor, Bangkok, Chongqing and Miami have got to me my favourites.
I have a certain attachment with Hawkes Bay, I played the Hitman 2 demo on repeat for hours trying to master the level back when I didn’t have a lot of money lol so it return to it trying to beat my previous time with SASO.
I can understand that 🙏 reminds me of replaying demos from PlayStation magazine and getting so good at the one level you’re given ☺️
Really interesting to see your rankings and I agree with most of your points. Berlin is also my favourite map, not only as a versatile , well designed Hitman map with an unorthodox twist, but also as a story mission- it simply oozes atmosphere from the cold open to the dramatic finish. The fact that the story elements, gameplay and map design meld together seamlessly is probably what makes it so memorable.
Points I would make:
-I would have ranked Dartmoor higher (probably a bit of personal bias since I actually live there!). I agree that it's a relatively uninventive map with just a simple "fortress", but much like Berlin it's one with fantastic atmosphere. The fortress itself is accessible through a multitude of routes, and the Private Investigator opportunity is probably one of the best and most fleshed out in the entire series, seeing as it can be manipulated so play out in so many different ways.
-I agree with your feelings about Carpathian Mountains. I think it makes a fantastic finale and story mission (I particularly liked that it forces you to be careful with item use), but as a Hitman map it just has far too little replayability. It feels like a level from a different game in many respects.
-Maybe it's fatigue from having played it so much, but I would have ranked Paris lower. I can't quite put my finger on why; it's not a bad level by any stretch, I just feel that as a level designed far earlier in the game's cycle, other maps (such as Dubai, Miami and Mendoza) have done similar "public event" style scenarios with more interesting twists and better overall level design.
-I agree that Columbia, Marrakesh and Mumbai suffer from similar issues. Although there are some opportunities to move targets around (particularly in Mumbai) all three are incredibly restrictive when it comes to SASO. Having targets in separate fortresses with a whole load of nothing in-between makes for a believable environment, but not necessarily a fun map.
I’ve said it recently that perhaps Dartmoor was too hastily placed that low. I’m not sure it would go that much higher but on reflection I think I was more mad at the time how simple a map it is when I wanted more 🤷♂️
I feel Paris earned its spot as well down to it being a classic. Say you want to get someone who has a passing interest in playing Hitman to give the game a shot, Paris is a great level to do that. Not so punishing that new players will bash controllers but still rewarding when you work things out 🙂
This is my list. It's going to be based mostly around the main missions though. This is my opinion
20-Carpathian mountains. - As you said it was very linear and doesn't compare to the rest of the trilogy. I see it as more of a conclusion to the trilogy rather than an actual mission. I think it's also too long especially for SA/SO.
19-Hawkes Bay. - Its like Romania but with actual replayability though not a lot of it. The location suffers from the long walk to the beach and a lack of multiple exits. Maybe its unfair considering its bascially a tutorial mission. The target is also really plain and boring. I do wish the guards and target would automatically spawn in at the start of the mission for future playthroughs to spice it up and keep it interesting.
18-Bangkok. - Where to begin with this one. Ken in my opinion is the worst target in the whole game, he has a poor routine and no good way of killing him SA/SO. Jordan has some fun and unique kills but suffers from the same problem but not nearly as bad of getting him isolated SA/SO. The map itself has too many enforcers for such a tight and close-quartered map. There is also limited ways for traversing the map in your suit, there too many keycard doors, too many cameras, terrible security room location, lack of exits, stupid challenges, etc.
17-Santa Fortuna. - The map is too big, traversing is annoying and difficult with the lack of paths and shortcuts suit only. The map also has 3 fortresses which makes the mission less enjoyable having to sneak in, kill your target, sneak out 3 times. The mission stories are great and there are a variety of kills and areas on the map so it doesn't feel bland. I want to like it but again the size and too many targets in their own fortresses really kills the flow of the mission for me. Edit: In hitman 3 bullet distractions are broken in the mansion area so speedrunning this mission is extra difficult.
16-Colorado. - For starters i wish it had Berlin styled targets of having to pick which target to kill. 4 targets is too much for such a small map. The map is hostile from the start which isn't a big problem but it does make it less enjoyable overall. The map is too open, has a poor layout and is too flat. There are some really annoying guards such as the one on the top floor of the house that roams around. The 3d printer stuff was annoying but im glad they changed that now so you can exit at multiple places which does help with replayability. Hitman 3's horrible AI also lets this map down the most as everyone apart from the hackers are guards so there are many times where you'll get hunted instead of suspicious. Overall not a bad map but has a lack of replay value. However it is extremely rewarding when you complete it SA/SO and speedrunning this mission is difficult but is also open with multiple different ways to speedrun.
15-Whittleton Creek. - For me it was the map i was most hyped for just behind Miami leading up to hitman 2's release but it was the most disappointing. For starters most of the houses are blocked off meaning you can't go in them so there is less creativity in regards to escalations/contracts. The houses that have interiors are bland and have the same layout so it become unoriginal. The targets are fine nothing outstanding but nothing bad though i do like Janus. I just wish maybe instead of having guards the target could be surrounded by family and friends making it a challenge and have police roam the outside. and possibly having the enemy reinforcements system from absolution come back. I do also wish there was more emphasis on using items we use daily such as a shower or washing machines or blender or pillow or lawn mower to kill the targets. The clues are also really annoying.
14-Marrakesh. - The first map to utilise having multiple fortresses which as stated before is not a good thing. Claus is a good target and Reza is a decent one too but again having to infiltrate 2 separate places is not fun. The underground garage is one of the most annoying area on any hitman map as its really the only way of getting inside the consulate suit only without having to do a bunch of distractions. I also do wish they implemented the riot so they would actually do something. The school is also quite bland but yeah its just a meh map in my opinion
13-Haven Island. - I could never really get into this one. It's not bad but its basically Bangkok but better. SA/SO is not great though imo. The targets range from meh to decent. There are plenty of annoying guard locations. And i'm not a fan of the different paths across the water. The guard vision cones are also really inconsistent and bad but the soundtrack is great.
Edit: In Hitman 3 this map is completely broken and speedrunning this mission is a complete joke
12-Dartmoor. - The atmosphere is really good. The mission stories are great. The layout is great. But it was build around the murder mystery and once you see every outcome it just becomes bland and repetitive. The secondary object (case file) was also easy to get but annoying. That is pretty much it.
Edit: The dartmoor garden show is a nice addition and while it isn't amazing it does make the map more replayable even if the actually bonus mission is mediocre.
11-Dubai. - The map i never really liked until i recently played the escalations on the map and now i like it. The main mission is meh. I just wish they brought back elevators from the old games. I also think the aesthetic is bland. But the map has a good layout and is fun for escalations/contracts. I also do wish they implemented more climbing specifically on the outside of the building to have that sense of height and scale that the map was marketed for
Now this is where it gets hard
10-Mendoza. - Its a great farewell to the trilogy. Agree with what you said about the mansion. Don Yates is a meh target and Tamara is fine. The mission stories are great too. There is also a lack of an easy suit only exit on the map but it is a solid map.
9-Isle of Sgail. - Terrible targets, bad npc routine, bad challenges but a great atmosphere, great layout and is gorgeous to look at. It also has one of my favourite kills with 47 in the coffin and kills zoe with ave maria in the background. It also has a great story.
8-New York. - Great layout, good mission stories. but i do wish the vault had another mission story where you use a digger in the parking lot to dig through into the vault or have the 2 robbers in the toilet actually rob the bank. I do also wish Athena would leave the top floor more. But apart from that the mission is great with a strong layout.
7-Hokkaido. - The K A I system is annoying but it never became too much of a problem for me, i do wish that Soders would wake up and wander around like how sierra gets out of the car in Miami. Yuki is a decent target nothing too special and the patient zero mission is very interesting especially after what has happened in the real world. Contracts is also very fun and i like the cameo of Agent smith.
6-Mumbai. - I love this mission but it does have a few flaws such as having multiple fortresses but unlike Columbia you can manipulate the targets so they would meet eg: vanya and dawood or dawood and the maelstrom or vanya and the maelstrom. The kashmirian is also a great addition. I like the maelstrom and having to identify him but i don't like his enforcers randomly in the street. Vanya is the worse target on the map but she isn't bad. The map also has a great story and atmosphere.
5-Paris. - A brilliant layout with good target routines though they do lack with interesting kills. The best map to start the trilogy on. Idk what to say its just great not a single bad point about it.
4-Berlin.- Once a map i didn't like to a map that i love. For starters i like speedrunning and this map without a doubt is the best to speedrun. The target system is just brilliant. The atmosphere is superb. The layout is also great, finding new pipes or ledges is so fun for me as i like exploring. And just the vibe is so great.
3--Miami. - Brilliant targets, Great atmosphere, Great mission stories. My only problem is that its a little too easy getting SA/SO but other than that its just a superb hitman mission and is definitely one of the best missions in the whole franchise and gaming as a whole.
Edit: Traversing the map is a complete pain as there are far too many locked doors and doors with keycard lock, there is also the problem of going from the marina side to the race side as there is few too little paths across with the 2 bridges and the 3 tunnels so again traversing the map is pretty painful especially on contracts mode.
2-Chongqing.- The story and atmosphere is amazing, the block and ica facility are fun to navigate and sneak through. Contracts and escalations make this map amazing especially with some fun new features and items. The 2 7DS escalations are really good. The mission is also really fun to speedrun and there is a good variety in exits.
1-Sapienza.- The flexibility of the map is great. The mission stories are great, The targets are great, the mansion is great, the bonus missions are great. I love the virus though i do wish it became optional. Every area has a purpose and every area has a lot of ways to infiltrate. I do wish there was a mission story that caused either Silvio to go to the church or a priest to go to the mansion. But it's just perfect to me and the amount of ways to kill the targets SA/SO is insane and i never thought there was a route that was impossible.
You can poison Ken Morgan's food for a free SASO kill.
I’ll agree he does have 1 or 2 simple ways to kill him SASO. I know for myself I dislike the lack of variety that he provides though, he doesn’t really allow you alone time when you’re in your suit compared to some other targets.
@@richardghp2781 There is only really 2 ways which are poison the food or shoot the chandelier and both of them are in the same place. There isn't really a way to get close to him or isolate him in your suit without causing 4 distractions and that's the problem
It’s not a speed run strat but it is possible to get the note from upstairs suit only and lure Ken to the Laundry Room. It’s just a pain in comparison to some options for Suit Only runs on other maps.
@@JJsProductionsTwitch I’ve played this level a hundred times and never knew about this. Thank you! And great video the points you made were spot on
The lack of exits in mendoza is my biggest complaint. Other than that it's fantastic
I feel that could be said of most of the Hitman III maps. Miss the secretish ones like the fish fountain in Miami for instance 😔
Or the best exit, the flamingo nest
I loved New York. Even the challenges of that map are either easy or fun to do in contrast with the previous level of Sgail which had the most obnoxious challenges in the first two games (I haven't played the 3rd one yet).
There are also several routes and posibilites for SASO. I'm not particularly good at SASO and I was able to get all the way into Athena's private mirror glass room without a disguise in master difficulty. In my book, any map in which I think of a way to do SASO without looking for a guide in CZcams is a good map.
New York was a load of fun. As much as I loved making this video the decisions like leaving NY as low as I did still make me doubt my choices as if someone said it is the best map I couldn’t really disagree.
Half the people i see say Berlin is one of the worst maps, half the people i see say it's one of the best, one of the best for me
I feel it’s one of the best. I keep flip flopping on locations, moreso since Freelancer arrived but Berlin remains high due to how much the map has to offer the player.
this video is great, exactly what ive been searching for.
I would completely agree if I swapped dartmoor with the isle of sgail, great list though you name out a lot of good points towards these maps
Will you ever do a rerank maybe based on how they are with freelancer, I am very interested, great video btw
I might, dilemma I’d be facing is if I publish the video here (where I’ve not really covered non-mobile games for 6+ months now) or my second channel. Will have to think on it but for sure I’d be happy to do another rerank, a few were “hot takes” at the time.
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i absolutely LOVE berlin. it's such a cool map, it's a reasonable size, and it's just so fun to play in all together
Isle of Sgail its mine. So unique and really well written. The Ark Society status (and their members behave or background) depicted in all the levels, the game with the initials and of course all the posibilities with the Twins (Sophia Washington might be my favorite target of the entire WOA trilogy). Then you have Berlin and Chongqing, those levels were extremely beautiful and entertaining. I think the only 2 maps I disliked were Paris (way too basic) and Romania (nothing left to say)
How can you call Paris basic Lool
@@kingrobert7246 felt limited to me, and since it was the first map they developed ever felt more like a training for the rest of the game.
Controversial opinion, but:
21: Carpathian Mountains
20: Hawke’s Bay
18: Colorado
17: Whittleton Creek
16: Marrakesh
15: Bangkok
14: Haven Island
13: Isle of Sgaìl
12: Mumbai
11: Santa Fortuna
10: Chongqing
9: Dartmoor
8: Miami
7: New York
6: Berlin
5: Mendoza
4: Dubai
3: Paris
2: Hokkaido
1: Sapienza
I looked up this video after playing Colorado for the first time.
Congratulations on surviving Colorado 🙏
I really like this list and agree with it. My personal favourite maps would be new york, paris and hokkaido
Sapienza, Mumbai, Santa Fortuna, Whittleton Creek, and Mendoza are my personal favorites
How does this not even have 1000 views???
Would personally swap dartmoor and isle of sgail and probably mendoza higher, great vid tho!
Seeing a lot of love for Dartmoor in these comments ☺️ it does make me think I may have placed it too low just based on my initial disappointment.
Sounds like before I finish Berlin was your favorite. I 100%ed Hitman 2 just the other night and got to Berlin the first time tonight and said once on the dance floor “best map in the trilogy….hands down….wow”
Yeah I think even now it’s the map I look forward to visiting. Replies I’ve had to this video though have made me wonder if it’s my number 1 still though!
i'm glad to see chongqing and berlin so high ! i feel like not too many people liked berlin and i'm happy to see another person who considers it their top one :] it would be very difficult for me to rank all maps, but i will just say that i don't think dartmoor should've been that low, or mumbai that high . well, it's not /too/ high, per se, i just feel like it's a very big and agitating map, and hard to get around .
it's the exact opposite reason of why i like dartmoor: simple, straight-forward, and you can learn your way around pretty well . the new garden show (i am aware this video was made before it) just added onto its beauty and opportunities, not to mention i was thrilled to see re-occuring characters . i don't know if i would rank it in my, let's say, top 5, but it is still a pretty good map .
i was kind of surprised to see colorado as 16th ? well, chosen over dartmoor and bangkok, anyways . both colorado and bangkok feel crowded and have limited opportunities, but if i had to rank them i would definetely but bangkok one place higher than colorado .
i would've never ranked hokkaido and paris that high . while they're not the easiest nor hardest, for me they just don't stick out, except for hokkaido having that pesky KAI robot . otherwise it would rank so much higher . as for paris, i will admit it was never my favorite, and probably never will be . i don't really care about it that much, although the attic part has to be one of my favorite places in the hitman 2016 game . it feels challenging at times, and i like that .
i agree with most of these ! i like your opinions :] berlin especially lol . it feels like a very good map just to do anything . the lust dlc proved that, it was absolutely incredible .
good video !!
Dartmoor was likely a bit reactionary as (a bit like I say in the video) when I first played it my gut reaction was ‘underwhelming’ just because of it’s simplicity. I feel like if a map can be SASO’d on the first try (or at least the actual kill can be worked out) then there is something fundamentally wrong with it. I will agree though that the Garden Show was a big plus as far as selling some of the maps’ features that had not really been sold well in the vanilla playthrough, I just would’ve liked if it hadn’t been in escalation format again.
Berlin was definitely a lot of fun, I actually enjoyed the Kill Everyone playthrough I did recently down to it being a small map in a lot of ways (really it’s just a nightclub and a warehouse) but vast in others (the number of levels and smaller areas is very impressive) that finding everyone was a fun challenge. When I’ve played it for SA or SASO ranks though it has been fun just down to the plethora of accident kills you can create, it’s almost like the map was designed to be creative IMO ☺️
@@JJsProductionsTwitch that makes sense . i got saso on my second or third run on dartmoor, i think . i do agree with you, maps this easy can be quite underwhelming and seem like they're missing something, but somehow i still like most small maps, such as hawke's bay and dartmoor .
berlin is a very, very creative map . the devs definetely knew what they were doing lol . even if they didn't, i still enjoyed it a lot, and i completely agree, it's incredibly fun to mess around with, whether it's a simple, straight-forward run, a saso one or just for fun ! i like that about it because there's so much to do :]
For what it’s worth I like small maps, I didn’t like leaving Whittleton Creek so far down the list really with that one standing out to me. I think if they’re small though there needs to be that extra something to make the map worthwhile and Dartmoor leaning into the Murder Mystery alone didn’t do it for me. No judgement for anyone who liked it 🙏
I like Santa Fortuna. The best part is the secret ancient tomb area.
It’s a cool section for sure, took me a while playing the level to know about it.
santa fortuna is the perfecr exaple for,big doesnt mean good
I really do like Bankok, the Atmosphere is just so vibrant and realistic. I don't get why some many people like Chongchinq, the part after the core is ALWAYS the same
The core is optional
While Bangkok definitely does feel realistic - I agree, I found the map to be mostly annoying. It's actually my least favourite so far (I haven't played Hitman III yet).
While I'm judging the mission more than the map itself, I feel like Soders is a Sierra done wrong.
Looking at the briefing video for the first time, I thought the target was going to roam around the map before laying on his operation table and not move for the rest of the mission. This would've offered different opportunities to take him down, depending on how much time we take to complete the mission and where we start, closer to the hospital or closer to the entrance.
That would’ve been cool for sure. It irks me that you can’t really snipe or fiber wire soders and your idea would give that to play us at least.
Berlin was a pretty cool map, taking the ICA agents out 1 by 1 was fun (but finding them was a bore) and the club is a good main location, wouldn't rank it 1st but its still about a 8.5/10
This is my accurate opinion of all maps🙆🏽♂️😅
Dartmoor at 18th is too harsh. Definitely one of the best maps in the game
I’ll admit I placed it too low as I was a bit annoyed at the map on release, I wouldn’t consider it a great map however. If I were to remake the video now it’d likely go up 3-5 places, however that’s just my opinion.
I feel like Dartmoor and Santa Fortuna must be swapped
Ambrose island was my favorite too
I only started playing the first game but planning on playing the later games, of all the maps from the first one, the only placement I disagree with is hokkaido, I would just ranking the first game, I would rank them 6th: marrakesh, 5th: hokkaido, 4th Bangkok, 3rd Colorado (because it's a challenging kill everyone and if your up on the water tower it's a surprisingly good map for sniping) 2nd Paris, and 1st sapienza
Nice to see Colorado get some love from someone ☺️ I really love the challenge of that map however you play it! I like Hokkaido more though as it is a challenge moving around, but not obnoxiously challenging that you need to restart constantly to do what you want.
To counter, several of hokkaido famous kills (spa trap in particular), you pretty much need a scramble device to get to the control panal for the spa (I have the definite edition, so it may be in an easier spot to reach in other versions, and I also don't have a lot of practice on the map and try not to look things up if I don't need to
The scrambler helps for sure. Something like the Spa though can be done without it. What comes to mind is going through the morgue towards the mountain exit, exiting the morgue where the two guards pass by on patrol, head right and climb a pipe near the garage that’ll take you up a floor to the spa room. There’s also the path that leads to the bike exit by the spa as well which could take you that way as well. Two offhand ideas. It’s kinda why I like the map, it’s not easy but it’s not obnoxiously hard either.
@@JJsProductionsTwitch well I wouldn't have been able to plan all that out, I personally would get lost after the pipe
I’ve been playing the game a touch longer tbf. More you play the more you learn 👍 or the more CZcams videos you watch the more you go “I didn’t know I could do that!” 🤣
Hawkes Bay is one of my fave maps. 😡
I do like it, all of the smaller maps suffer to a degree though. Whittleton Creek and New York spared a bit of this though as there’s more to do and see by comparison.
Gotta say, Bangkok sticks out as the only real mistake of WOA. It's the only map they'd already done better & didn't introduce any unique ideas.
Colorado upped the targets & gave everyone guns. Carpathian Mountains stuck you on a train & gave you a weapons free objective. Santa Fortuna took a far more rural approach using bushes & hedges as your main cover.
They all at least have a different feel. But Bangkok feels like Paris, just worse.
I personally loved both Marrakech and Mumbai, even though Marrakech sometimes did annoy me a little.
Hokkaido is right up there as one of my absolute favourites, but I didn't like Paris at all. I found it mostly frustrating, and after completing it the first time, didn't bother with it again.
My absolute least favourite so far though has to be Bangkok. It almost ruined the game for me. Didn't find any aspect of it fun at all and I kinda wish they had either just dropped the level completely or replaced it with something else.
I’m curious what made Paris so rough for you 🙂 what I’ll say regardless is having played the WoA series for the best part of 4 years, practice makes perfect. More you play the maps, the more you’ll find ways to enjoy them ☺️
@@JJsProductionsTwitch I suppose with Paris it was the whole deal where it felt like a small map in the way that there didn't feel like much variety, but at the same time, a large map in the way that it was annoyingly difficult to get anywhere (save for the main party).
Also, I found opportunities difficult in comparison to other maps, to set up.
It may have just been cause it was the first real map I played and I sucked at the time that skewed my view - I'm sure that's a HUGE part of it, but it did leave a bitter taste in my mouth.
Dartmoor tried to rip off Beldingford Manor from Contracts but failed miserably. In fact one of my main gripes with the trilogy is that a lot of the levels feel like expanded remasters of previous games.
My favorites are Sapienza, Paris, New York, Hokkaido and Miami, in more or less that order.
Great video overall. The only feedback I'd give is that a lot of sentences start with "Whilst...." It makes your great commentary sound just a bit repetitive. It's a nitpick but maybe just something to be conscious of in the future.
Appreciate feedback like that 👍 have a habit of using “so” as well but I do try and cut that out where I notice it.
Did bro really put colorado over bangkok and dartmoor
Yes. Only one of those I regret 😎
Am I weird for not liking Berlin? I think that’s mainly due to the targets not the map. But I just didn’t like it that much
Marrakesh disappointed me not just because it felt very contained and hard to explore, but also because it was the one hitman level in the entire series set in Africa and I feel like it kinda wasted that
Alright, Here's my list, best to worst.
Paris
Sapienza
New York
Miami
Hokkaido
Dubai
Chongqing
Mendoza
Berlin
Haven Island
Colorado
Dartmoor
Mumbai
Santa Fortuna
Marrakesh
Bangkok
Whittleton Creek
Isle of Sgail
Hawkes Bay
Romania
I won't bother to type out all of my reasoning here as I already made a 47 min video explaining my thoughts on each map in detail. czcams.com/video/UrYHXXETicY/video.html If you want to hear my opinion on any of the maps specifically it's here. Keep in mind I also factor in decoration and sound design and weight them probably more than most.
Just a few of the biggest differences between ours that I noticed I will explain my reasoning on:
Berlin: From a gameplay standpoint its very unique and its up there do to its versatility. I do feel, however, that the design is too monotone and it makes the level feel as if it has very little distinct areas. The layout of the level combined with the fact that everything for the most part is concrete makes it feel somewhat barebones.
Dartmoor: I don't think it deserves to be dumped down with the throwaway 1 target missions as it is a bigger 1 target map with a decent amount of replayability. Yes, its kind of easy, but the level design is pretty good in my opinion and even though the detective thing is a throwaway it still feels more unique than some other maps, and definitely more appealing to play than Bangkok for instance.
Isle of Sgail: I love big height differences trust me but just something about the tone of this level makes me forget it exists and just not really care to play it. I want to like it, I really do, but I just don't like these super monotonic levels as much. That's the best explanation I can give. (also the layouts pretty weird)
And Paris is #1 because it birthed literally everything. I know a lot of other players who started playing right at the start also have this bias. Its just an unspoken code we have to follow, Paris holds a special place in our hearts. They clearly put time into crafting the best first impression possible for players. No matter how objectively good a map is from a gameplay standpoint it couldn't ever surpass the things that make Paris special. (Not like its poorly made either it has a very well thought out layout as well)
Okay so equally I will try to be brief here in response :-)
Berlin - I will give you that regarding the level aesthetic, there is a lot of concrete at times but perhaps it's personal taste but I don't mind that. As far as the level design, which I tried to focus on most, I feel the map has distinct areas and different feels, for instance, compare the juice bar areas to the rave several floors below, the biker gang to the club entrance/coat check areas. Each does have its own vibe and choosing targets in each different section lends to a different approach. Again, perhaps this is just personal taste. It's still early days as far as my video goes so we'll see where the consensus lies.
Dartmoor - I take your point that perhaps it is a little low compared to the two below it, however, I didn't want to judge levels based on my personal preference or the enjoyment of a playthrough. You're right, I would prefer playing Dartmoor to Bangkok because it's a much easier map to traverse, but does that make it better? I personally don't think so. My justification for its ranking can be summed as: there is such a thing as being too easy.
IoS - Again, it could be personal taste but I like the dark and eerie tones of this map, it lends itself to good contrasts as you make your way up from the Harbor to the top levels of the map and we go from gothic seas to technological gothic mishmashes. Also if we were talking about main missions, this would rank lower as I do not rate the Washingtons for their routes or replayability, however, I feel there are plenty of good contracts that can be created on this map that rescue its reputation.
Paris - It wasn't a knock on it, although I will admit to being late to the party having started playing around the time of Patient Zero. If I was going for the romantic route, I would give it to Paris and Sapienza (I can't split them for getting me into the series) but again I felt that Miami went a step further than Paris, whilst my belief is that with time Berlin will prove to be better. Again, time will tell though!
Thanks for your comment ☺️
I can understand putting the train and hawks bay last, but Dartmoor and Bangkok both belong above Colorado. While you raise some good points, Colorado doesn't have nearly enough places for easy silent takedowns to make up for the fact that every NPC other than the main targets and the three hackers are armed to the teeth and aware of you. Add on the fact that one of the elusive targets on the map just has guards programmed to home in on you if you get within half a mile of the guy and the whole map is just terrible in nearly everybody's opinion except apparently yours.
Hard to disagree with your logic, of why this order works for you.
For me, Paris is always my number 1. In the first Hitman game, my wife and I played this level so much - exploring and learning the level. We refused to move onto the next level until we "knew" that level. None of the other levels (including Sapienza) captured us that deeply. As the sequels came along, we got some great levels, some "meh" and some "poor" - but none ever overtook Paris for how strongly we felt.
After that, Miami, Sapienza, Hokkaido, Berlin - all "S-Tier" and hard to put one over another.
I actually like the train.
As a mission I liked it, as a map it’s hard to like 🙂 small difference but a big one I feel when making a list like this.
@@JJsProductionsTwitch that’s fair
Berlin is by chance my least favorite map because I don't like the aesthetics of it at all, it's full of empty spaces and the targets as well as the kills are very uninteresting, unlike Mendoza (for example). It's an excellent map for many but I don't think it fits well into the type of game that is Hitman, a game where we have to investigate ways to eliminate targets often by interacting with them and other NPC's and using disguises. It is perhaps better for those who are more of a fan of speedruns rather than the story of the actual mission, but it still works well as an interlude to the last part of the trilogy.
My ranking is:
20. Berlin
19. Carpathian Mountains
18. Mumbai
17. Ambrose Island
16. Hawke's Bay
15. Dartmoor
14. Paris
13. Whittleton Creek
12. Colorado
11. Bangkok
10. Haven Island
9. Miami
8. Santa Fortuna
7. New York
6. Marrakech
5. Chongqing
4. Mendoza
3. Hokkaido
2. Sapienza
1. Isle of Sgail ( just outstanding)
Mumbai is my favorite
think you have been too mean to Dartmoor. I can't believe you'd rather play base ica or colorado than dartmoor. my flop six is still similar to yours.
For me
20) Romania
19) Basic ica
18) Marrakesh
17) Colorado
16) Bangcock
15) New Zealand
Who tf puts Dartmoor behind Colorado lmao
I was depressed when I saw Dartmoor at at 18 (No hate)
I agree with all other placements though
I disagree with 95% of this list, BUT I do agree Berlin is the best of the best as far as the trilogy goes.
Hokkaido, Santa Fortuna (Colombia), Mendoza, Whittleton Creek & Paris have been my favourite to replay.
Not a fan of Bangkok or Colorado
Santa fortuna in 14th. Bro, that ain't it.
But Berlin at number one is a legit choice. One of the very best.
Where is SF for you then? 🙂 Genuinely know people who could place it higher or lower 🤷♂️
@@JJsProductionsTwitch no lies it's actually my favourite, Paris 2nd and Berlin 3rd. Just the most fun I had was on SF
Surprising but a fun one 🙂 personally I find the map too big to truly enjoy but I can see enough in the map to get why people like it 👍
I Think Miami is the best map
I have the third highest score on Xbox causal mode New York.
Hokkaido is a very overrated map imo. While it is very beautiful looking map. It’s very small not much going on. Soders the target doesn’t move at all. But there is many ways to kill him. Having to use Electronic hackers everywhere is annoying too.
Bangkok map is just SHIT too.
Miami is so overrated I hate that map
Each to their own I guess 🤷♂️
men i was finding that coment
Bro you are absolutely wrong
Berlin the worst
I’d be interested to hear why you think it’s worse than say Hawke’s Bay or CM ☺️
no
Agree
1. Sapienza
2. Paris
3. Colorado (definitely the most gratifying k*ll everyone challenge.)
4. New Zealand
5. Miami
6. Dartmoor
7. Haven Island
8. Santa Fortuna
9. Dubai
And the rest are about the same to me.
What a terrible and wrong list.
Bro got buthurt over a list💀