@@MichaelJ44 Sadly, Carl passed away many years ago, but yes, not only does Brian still speak to Al, but they have been touring together for the past decade! :-)
@@MichaelJ44 Brian had issues with Carl in the 80s and 90s, both while he was under "care" of Eugene Landy, and afterwards (Brian had lingering issues with his mother expressing more love for Carl than the other brothers), but I believe their relationship was improving before Carl's passing.
Mike Love has had a whole lifetime riding on the waves of Brian Wilson's incredible song writing. If Brian says he's bad well the world is going to agree
Apart from the fact Mike Love wrote some of their biggest hits and was frozen out by the bands manager who was a Wilson. So how could you know exactly what went on?
Well Mike did write songs as well. Wilson is a Genius that could’ve fitted into the Beatles easily but he is forgetting Love and the others had to earn money while he was out of it being controlled.
If you had watched all of the video footage of Mike Love treating Brian Wilson with a bullying disrespect, as I have.... Then you'd clearly see the proof that Mike ALWAYS ENVIED BRIAN, and always gave him a hard time, for creating a newer sound. If Brian listened to Mike, The Beach Boys would've become ancient history. Brian Wilson was clearly the creative mastermind behind the band.
The thing about Brian is that he could take literally anything and make it sound musical. Bicycle bells, piano strings, beverage cups, Coke cans, the electro-theremin. Hell, he even made Mike Love's voice sound good.
Being the devil's advocate here, I understand there's a lot of hate for Mike Love, but he had a unique "Beach Boys" sound and provides the lead vocals for many of their best hits. You can always tell it's a Beach Boys song when you hear his distinctive voice
@@commanderkeen3787 I won't deny Mike's role in the band from 1961-1973, he actually wrote some pretty good songs, but he has an ego problem unlike most rockstars
@@jmadratz He was *A* voice in The Beach Boys... not THE voice... and Brian, Carl, Al, Bruce, Dennis and Blondie all sang better than Mike... so... I don’t really see what you’re getting at. There are 99 reasons to like The Beach Boys and Mike Love ain’t one...
I took care of Mike Loves dad when I was a paramedic. He (ML) was a real prick in the ER, had a real "you know who I am, right ? kinda attitude. I ignored him and took care of his dad.
Dennis was an awesome talent in his own right. Listen to "Forever" from the Beach Boys, or "Constant Companion" or "It's Not Too Late" from his solo record.
@ When Dennis died, I recall "People" magazine writing a story about him and how he loved needling Mike Love. Dennis' last wife was Mike Love's daughter. But Dennis liked to walk up to Mike on plane trips and throw up all over him. I'm guessing the story was true if it came from People magazine.
@ Dennis was a serious alcoholic and drug abuser. I can see him doing it. I was in a fraternity in college during the "Animal House" era and saw a fair amount of that kind of crap.
Al Jardine is what I’d consider the most normal beach boy. Everyone had a role. Brian was the genius. Dennis was the pretty boy. Mike was the villain. Carl was the straight man. And Al was just there and I kinda love that
Mate, I think you're spot on! You've everybody's roles perfect. I look at Jardine this way - He's the normal guy; he's the 'every man'. He's the Beach Boy that I'd want to be. I don't want to be the genius, the villain etc - but I sure as hell wanna be part of it!
@@Syfoll i've always said that Brian was the Heart of the band and Carl was the Soul of the band it fits ya know? i love Al as growing up he was my favorite, he's always seem to be the laid back kind of guy i dunno if he is or not but that's how it feels to me anyways.
Mike Love didn't produce that album but it was a horrible album. There was no Brian Wilson involvement on it whatsoever. In fact, it has session musicians along with Carl, AL, and Bruce doing background vocals behind Mike's lame singing.
@@alanderson9711 I have in front of me my copy of MOJO Magazine, January 2006 in which it's reported that Mike Love was suing Brian Wilson (again). One of the reasons, according to Van Dyke Parks was possibly "the economic pressure of seven ex- wives". I'm going with MOJO and the guy who had to put up with Love. In addition, the biography Heroes And Villains - The True Story Of The Beach Boys by author Steven Gaines documents Love's penchant for domestic abuse in the late 60's. So much for Transcendental Meditation.
@@bryan_witha_whyy no Mike continuously behaved in a belittling manner toward Brian. It is other people such as Brian's first wife Marilyn and second wife Melinda and his good friends that Brian is still with us- not Mike!
John Deegan Brian ruined what The Beach Boys had going because he was a loser junkie. If he would have sought help and laid off the drugs who knows what they would have recorded? At least Mike took accountability in his life and didn’t become a joke.
Mike Love is the perfect example of the rooster who thinks the sun comes up because he crows. The lack of self awareness gives all of us the douche-chills.
Let's be honest, Mike was simply at the right place at the right time. He's no John Lennon or Paul McCartney or Brian Wilson. Mike is definitely the weakest link.
@@bighands69 ....I never said anything like that, and I have no knowledge of it. Myself, I always give credit where credit is due. What anyone else does, I can't answer for. I said I can't blame him for not liking an egomaniac.
@@jmadratz That’s such a small piece of the puzzle. Brian does not like Mike Love for a lot of reasons, even going back to the 60s when they were together.
I miss Denis man. I think back about his life and it breaks my heart. Murray fucked those boys up so bad and it has haunted them even after he died. Denis was lost after the band washed up, a lost lonely very damaged and misunderstood rock Icon. He was The Beach Boys, the only one to actually surf, self taught drummer, lyricist, Race Car Driver, Ladies Man, Tough S.O.B, amazingly Handsome and also an avid Sailor who loved the ocean. And most of all, he was always fiercely loyal to Brian, the true genius behind the band! Denis was a true renaissance man! Rest in piece Denis, we will never forget you.
And you didn't even touch on the grip of fear that he apparently quietly lived under after his early encounter with The Family. If reports can be trusted, he was extorted out of much of his wealth and much of his youthful sunny presence by that fateful association. It's horrible to contemplate the sort of dread - the sort of secrets - he likely took with him when he left us.
@Thaydrian, Thank You for your terrific statement, I agree with you 100%. I loved Dennis Wilson for all the reasons you have mentioned so well. I was crushed on that December day in 1983 when I heard that he had drowned. PS, there's a really good documentary on CZcams about Dennis. It's called "Dennis Wilson, The Real Beach Boy." check it out!
My heart goes to Brian Wilson. He had to do everything on his own because he was surrounded by greedy unimaginative corporate hags. They ditched him when he lost it and he got picked up by a master manipulator life coach at his low point. Brian deserves all the love in the world. He was one of the best musicians in the world
Writing some songs, hits or not, doesn't make someone pleasant to be around. Mike has been shown to be a whiney, boorish pain in the ass for years. If not for the Wilsons we would never have heard of him.
@@bighands69 yep. Mike just added stereotypical words about surfing and cars to music that pretty much all the other members wrote. Mike didn't even write the original lyrics to alot of their hits. Mostly, Brian or someone else would write lyrics that were perfectly fine, but Mike would have a problem about it, and would rewrite them, sometimes even renaming the whole song. So yes. He didn't write shit. He changed stuff everyone else already wrote.
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That’s simply not true. Brian might not like his cousin Mike but he has tremendous respect for him and has always lauded Mike’s incredible talent, especially as a singer, but also as a writer and a performer.
@@glh7728 I did. But he’s said many more positive things over the years. I don’t focus on negativity and momentary spite. The real truth is what he’s said consistently over the years. And that is overwhelmingly glowing praise.
@@bighands69 I'm talking crap? I've net them both, idiot. Mike's a tool....Brian is cool. I have no reason to talk crap. I'm a musician who traveled near and far. More than you..
@@bighands69Nope, he's not. I too have met Mike and Brian and the energy of the two couldn't be more different. Brian seemed humble, kind, and generally very happy to be chatting. Mike, on the other hand, acted as if I should be thankful to be in the same room. He has this undeserving sense of entitlement to him and his narcissism was undeniable.
THANK YOU! Exactamondo! Least talent but has the nerve to have an ego big enough to rub someone as uniquely humble & sincere as Brian Wilson the wrong way. Imagine how things mightve been better if Mike was kicked out of the group during Pet Sounds....Smile wouldve likely been their most raved about album or even some masterpiece to top it. Brian had some real crazy energy drainers in his life...thats why I guard myself from those types.
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Brian, God love him, is a once upon a time erratic genius. A generational innovator. Mike Love, is a below average vocalist, with some savvy. He always seemed eerily out of place with the brothers, and the music. No question of who is the soul of The Beach Boys.
@Atomic Elbow, in what sense? He released one good album then slumped into a long period of mediocrity. This "George was the true genius" revisionism doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
Sloth from The Goonies YES! George Harrison was a musical genius. Unlike that crappy kid music that Paul McCartney wrote. Compare their music in their solo careers.
I love how Brian is always so completely honest lol. "Can't stand the guy, can't be around him for more than 5 minutes, I really don't like him at all". Most artists would probably say something more corporate like "we've had our differences" or just avoid the question
Mike Love NEEDS the Beach Boys name to tour and release music and just cashed in on the nostalgia and the hype whereas Brian is a legend and his name itself is enough.
Brian Wilson is truly the most talented and humble of geniuses. The world is a better place because of his music. What a comfort it has been to me for many years.
I met him and Al at this private meet and greet before a concert. I am just obsessed with his life story. He was an absolute darling. And Al loves him so much. Brian has this sort of child like innocence about him. If you haven’t seen it, you should totally check out “love and Mercy”, it’s a biopic about Brian. What Gene Landy did to him is just awful. He basically enslaved Brian. Wouldn’t even let him see his children.
Carl’s vocal on god only knows is earth shattering. Music can’t get any better in my eyes and I’m English and more of a Beatles fan. I’ve loved that song since being a small child of 5/6
Mike Love was not a drug obsessed hippy maybe that was the reason he did not die. Pet sounds was a dreadful Beach Boys album with one or two good songs.
@@rhodeshullmusic The original comment was "The fact that Mike Love is still alive and Dennis and Carl Wilson aren't just pisses me off" That was a disgusting thing to say and I pointed out that Mike Love was probably alive because he did not have a drug problem like other people have had. And you think I am the reason for hell?
Most people who know Mike Love hate Mike Love. Most who've heard him talk for 5 minutes, hate Mike Love. Mike Love has the most ironic name in the universe.
@@lamarravery4094 Yes, that is his real last name - Love was born in Los Angeles, California, the son of Emily Glee (née Wilson) and Edwin Milton Love. In addition to being cousin to the Wilson brothers, Love is the brother of former NBA basketball player Stan Love and of Pink Martini harpist Maureen Love, and the uncle of Minnesota Timberwolves basketball player Kevin Love.
The only good thing to come out of Mike Love's drunken Hall of Fame speech was the opening of Bob Dylan's Hall of Fame speech: "I would like to thank Mike Love...for not mentioning my name..."
Brian Wilson loves Mike Love. He may say he doesn’t like him, but they are family. And Brian consistently praises Mike’s talent as a singer, a song writer, and as a performer.
I have been in many bands in the last 25 years with people with the same personality traits as Mike. I have never met him but from a lot of footage and reading his autobiography I highly doubt that I would get on with him. Annoying is not the right adjective
I was lucky to see the original lineup when they came to the UK in 1980, a brilliant openair concert that will stay in my memories forever, Thankyou guys.
Exactement ! Ils sont venus en France, je les ai vus 2 fois et bien fadent sans Brian. Mike Love a dénaturé le groupe de ma jeunesse. Mille mercis mes chers BB et Brian le génie ❤
Personality aside, just musically speaking, its ridiculous to even speak of Brian Wilson & Mike Love in the same sentence. There can be no comparison. The genius and the dwarf. Brian is a titan, a blessing given once in a lifetime. Mike Love is at best an average talent, adorned in baubles & lacking in substance.
ChismsTrail No One ever compares them musically, but Mike Love was an important part of that group - he’s the only one that exhibited any personality on stage and in interviews. you could tell he was a happy guy, he had fun performing. the others were great musically, but, except for Dennis, they were very subdued, more cerebral. Not that there’s anything wrong with being cerebral, but Mike Love was the one that brought the fun to the performances.
I was hired as a temporary roadie for a Beach Boys concert in Emporia Kansas in the early 70s. I got to eat lunch with them at a Ramada Inn and was disgusted with Loves bitching about his vegetarian meal they prepared for him. Brian Wilson wasn't on this tour but everyone in the band was pissed and embarrassed by his Prima Donna behavior.
What is the name of that "beach Boys" cover band? Thanks to Hateful Mikey, the name is "The Beach Boys." Brian, Dennis or Carl are never mentioned. Either are Alan or Matt Jardine. Later this year, (already have tickets) Brian, Alan, and Matt will be in town. Along with the band so good, they named a city after them. Chicago! steve
@@steveskouson9620 Straight up wrong. I've been to the shows. They talk plenty about the genius of Brian's songs and about Brian and Carl's vocal performances. They're all about the legacy.
It was Mike Love that kept the BB on track. Brian Wilson wanted to make experimental hippy music that was dreadful. Pet Sounds was a juck Beach Boys Album because it was all Wilson. Mike Love did not want that new age hippy sound as he knew it was not the Beach Boys. If Wilson had of released that on his own he would have been blasted by everybody and considered terrible. The only real Beach Boys song on it was Wouldn't It Be Nice.
bighand69 There were a ton of other surf bands around in that day that nobody remembers and the reason that is is that none of those bands ever made a Pet Sounds.
Top five 1960s song writers in my opinion: Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Paul Simon, Bob Dylan and Brian Wilson. Not necessarily in that order. Agree? Disagree?
Didn’t Mike Love call Pet Sounds a “Brian Wilson solo album featuring the voices of The Beach Boys”? If that’s true, how could he not be sorry and embarrassed 😳 for trying to minimize his association with such a legendary album?
While I'm the last person to defend Mike Love on most things, he's not neccessarily completely wrong here. The compositions are all Brian. The music is done mostly by the Wrecking Crew. The lyrics are mostly Brian and his writing partner at the time. Most of the recording was done while the rest of the Beach Boys were on tour. It's mostly a record about Brian's anxieties at the time. Mike's kind of right but for all of the wrong reasons
Pet Sounds popularity was very slow to arrive. Bear in mind it was a 'critic' for Rolling Stone mag who shit all over P/S's when it was first released in '66. Said it was 'a self-indulgent mess.' Imagine. Pop music critics are like screen doors on a submarine: Interesting idea. But not at all practical. The band (Beach Boys) wasn't particularly thrilled with P/S's either, at the time. The songs were wayyyy ahead of their time. 55 year later the LP sounds as good as the day it was cut. Rolling Stone Mag on the other hand, hasn't aged nearly as well..........
Not surprised. I never did like Mike Love. When I saw them live on stage, he was a real douchbag and all the other guys were GREAT with the fans!! 🥰🥰 He acted like he couldn’t be bothered Smh 🤦🏻♀️
Mike Love is the only stand-alone lead vocalist who's the 3rd or 4th best singer in the band. He looked 40 when he was 20, can't dance but insists on doing it, and hated Pet Sounds. What's not to "Love"?
I have seen both Brian Wilson and Mike Love's Beach Boys live in the last 12 months. The crowds and the reactions they get could not be more different. When Brian is on stage there is a genuine warmth and hero worship that comes from the audience. Mike's is more manufactured, running videos at the back of the stage showing him in the 60s with The Beatles and then talking about "my cousin Brian" all the time. Brian just performs and the crowds love him.
Some music manage to combine the two fairly effectively but the true creatives are either sensitive and don't like the uncontrollable public that much, or take themselves or their work too seriously and have trouble really warming to audiences - who already warm to them thru their music. One of the strengths of the Beatles was they had two of each type, it made them damn near impregnable during the peak popularity years which would have caused less well-balanced outfits to implode. There are myriads of examples to study but consider the strong egos in the Stones, the Who, the Eagles, the Police. And how they caused those bands great tension.
Ian Bartle A great point well made. The dynamics in bands is something that has fascinated me over time because of the way it relates to real life. It also tells us a lot about band managers and how important their role is in defusing tensions. Brian Epstein's death played a role in the demise of The Beatles as did the Eastman Kline battle for control.
I don't want to be judgemental as I have never met Mike Love, but he does not come across very well in interviews and seems to like being the main attraction.
Agreed. I'm convinced some of his tensions with Brian stemmed from him being bitter over getting a smaller share of lead vocal duties starting with the Pet Sounds era and Carl's increased vocal presence.
skakirask Makes sense- Mike has the control freak impulses of a star with a half octave flat vocal range and the ability to steal writing credits with a single phrase contribution. He’s an awful, insecure person by any metric. It’s rare Brian denigrates him at all, though. Even this criticism is more civil than Mike Love deserves.
It's not being judgmental when you are simply describing what is taking place. Love doesn't come off very nice because he is not very nice. You are 100% accurate: he want to be the main attraction. And he just can't deliver because he doesn't have the innate talent.
It's too bad because I think he's very talented and an important member of this band. My favorite band. I think someone being a dick doesn't take away from what they contributed. My heart still swells when he sings "good night baby sleep tight baby".
Mike Love during the recordings for Good Vibrations: Don’t fuck with the formula Brian Mike Love now when he’s performing good vibrations: By the way I wrote this song
Murry bought Brian all the gear he needed, even a very expensive early multi-track device. Murry got the band signed, not easy as they were just kids with no track record. Life isn't black & white, people are typically more complex than that. There were many sides to Murry. :-)
Merely buying material things for one's kids does not make one a good parent. If my father bought me a Cadillac on Monday and hit me so hard on Tuesday that I lost my hearing in one ear, as happened to Brian, my father would still not be a good father.
.... Brian and Carl .. are vocal gods , but lets be fair Mike love did his share and was part of such a Brilliant Band.My all time fav is Carl on lead vocals doing " I CAN HEAR MUSIC" ... just BRILLIANT, ... LOVED THE BEACH BOYS.
Brian Wilson and Mike Love are quite a contrast. Brian is a genius of unadorned sincerity - Mike is one of the creepiest performers to ever hold forth on stage, with his attention-seeking go-go dancing and his ring-on-every-finger, slimy huckster persona. Brian taps deeply into the soul. Mike's last name is ironic, to put it mildly - reminds me of Buddy Love. I guess Brian is the Nutty Professor side of the relationship. One is the extrovert the other the introvert. Still, they did make for an interesting chemistry.
@- Morales Please tell me you are a troll, because I honestly cannot believe anyone with the slightest iota of knowledge about The Beach Boys, Rock and Roll history, or just music in general, would make such an ignorant statement.
- Morales Make a point Dennis Wilson Was the only Sufer In the group but in multiple documentaries they have stated that Dennis was the only surfer 🏄♀️ They have never that he was a surfer Mike love and Brian Wilson Are both geniuses in there own right He made good vibrations but Brian wrote some beach Boys songs to he is a much better Writer than mike love
- Morales Mike love has stated that he helped Dennis with this song’s but in the lost beach Boy documentary is States that Carl helped Dennis to but it didn’t say that mike love did but that’s what I dislike about him he takes credit from others musicians. Which music was important to him mike albums didn’t do good which makes it hard to believe that he helped Dennis
@@srhodes2381 Mike wrote lyrics for Good VIbrations, he didn't compose the music. Brian wrote the music and presented the concept about picking up vibes.
You really can't criticize Mike Love's baldness. I mean, his hair didn't fall out. It's just that his head is so fucking big, he outgrew it. If Mike Love were not a relative of the Wilson's, he'd have spent his life cleaning toilets.
After a BB's concert at the Pompano Beach (Florida) Amphitheater in the 1990's, I was able to approach Mike Love and ask him why they didn't perform more material from their vast catalog that went beyond their popular surf & car songs. (Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl and the Passions - "So Tough", Holland). He just looked at me and shrugged and said "Nobody cares about that shit". Al & Carl bowed their heads & seemed embarrassed. Bruce had this goofy grin on his face like an obedient puppy dog. This scenario demonstrates Mile Love's sad short-sidedness & nauseating adherence to mundane commercialism, which has sapped the creative soul of the Beach Boys/ Brian Wilson's music.
Mike is clearly a jerk. If you've seen as much video footage of how much crap he's given Brian about the newer style music Brian had written, along with bullying him, and putting down his innovative musical ideas, then you would fully agree that Mike Love has a major chip on his shoulder. Mike was constantly giving Brian a hard time. I have zero respect for Mike. After Carl died, and Brian, Al, and David Marks did a reunion tour, Brian was willing to continue with Mike, but Mike wanted them out. I had seen it in an interview.
@@torg3481 Bullshit, Carl heard two notes of God Only Knows and immediately liked it. Meanwhile egomaniac man had to cheese up the end of Wouldn't It Be Nice and people still don't see it as the masterpiece it is because of it.
Pet Sounds, LOL, the most overrated (because of what McCartney said about it) album of all time. I challenge anyone to listen through the entire record in one sitting. The best pop song on it was Sloop John B, and Wilson didn’t write it.
Quick story.....My very first concert I ever went to was Steely Dan opening up for The Beach Boys back in 1974 in Columbus, Ohio. This was The Dan of Steel with Jeff Skunk Baxter, Denny Dias, Donald Fagan, Walter Becker and a little known back up singer named Michael McDonald. They came out and Blow The Doors Off The Auditorium. They got TWO encores and you could see Mike Love on the side of the stage literally blowing a gasket. THEN, when the Beach Boys came out at least half the crowd left AFTER Love had the nerve to say "most new bands don't overstay their welcome". He got BOO'ED BIG TIME. I left as well. Fucking guy has always been a Drama Putz.
Nor do smart audiences overstay their welcome either. Following Steely Dan, no matter what configuration of Beach Boys you put onstage, was pure artistic treachery. I think that what Mike uttered was "Lovespeak" for what I just said in English.
@@davidmurray2539 Audiences "over-staying" their welcome?.....THEY are the Customer who pays The Coins so that Douche bags like Mikey boy can earn a living. You got it Brass- Ackwards Slick.
I've been to 28 Beach Boys concerts, plus 5 with Brian and Al. I've talked to Mike several times, and always found him very nice. They're different men. Brian is a creative genius, and Mike brings so much fun and coolness to a concert. Both of them are a huge part of the success of the Beach Boys. I say all the time that Brian is a musical genius, but the technical aspects of music and harmony are not the only things that made the Beach Boys legendary. I'm thankful every day for both of them.
I GOT NEES FOR YOU. THE TIGHT HARMONIES AND BRIAN'S WRITTING WERE WHAT MADE THE BEACHBOYS. MIKE LOVE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE EASIEST OF ALL OF THEM TO REPLACE.
@@johnorabone6112 Yes, but david bensons comment (having see 28 shows) still holds water. They could have tried to replace Mike and it could have failed, We'll never know what any alternative universe may have offered up. Mike seems to hold down the job of MC on stage - relating to the audience and in his current touring outfit is as effective as ever, keen to share and acknowledge the times the band (and the audience) went through and the legacy of the band. It is a similar role to that of Graham Nash when CSN are on stage. It's not that easy a job when you have major heavyweight songwriters and egos on stage around you. In trying to gee people up and do a few funnies you can be in danger of appearing like a game show host. When folks pay good money to goo out and hear some of the truly great songs live, the last thing they want is posing and lack of authenticity.
I see your point, and like it, but I must disagree to some degree. Mike is a pushy SOB, very aggressive. This was helpful to the group in the early days. I think we need to give him credit for that. At some point, his pushiness spilled over into nastiness and narcissism -- his meditation practice exacerbated his deep problems (this is a common thing among meditators, meditation fucks up a lot of people). I think he'd be a middle manager at Denny's Inc., driving a yellow Corvette to work every day, saying to himself, "See my car? I'm cool! Right? RIGHT?"
@@ZackWilliams_TheProducer John Diamond MD, a major therapist, author of many books including "Your Body Doesn't Lie," believes that quiet sitting meditation for Westerners doesn't always work. For some people, yes; not for everybody. He cites a major Indian guru as a source for his thinking on this. Action meditation, say Diamond and this guru, are much better for Westerners, because that's how our minds are set up -- doing some creative activity with mindful attention, a sense of play, and not being hugely attached to the results -- music, cooking, painting. A lot of people in the '60s saw quiet sitting meditation as The Answer. I'm sure some people have been helped over the years, but it also seems to me that some people have made their issues worse and have become angry egocentric goofballs. Check out the online article "Meditation May Aggravate Trauma, Mindful Action Is A Better Alternative" and check out "Lost in Thought - The Dangers of Meditation" by David Kortava in the April 2021 issue of Harper's magazine (it, too, is online).
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I don't agree. Brian Wilson is a genius, but he needed someone like Mike Love to ground him (and his father was far worse than Love). Whether it be his lack of confidence, potential PTSD, or his mental illness, there were factors that limited his raw talent - without Mike Love, Brian Wilson would not be successful. I totally see how Love became a vestige, but it doesn't mean that he didn't have an important part to play...
Brian Wilson and Mike Love are the complete opposite of Lennon and McCartney, but the weird thing is Brian Wilson and Paul McCartney are really similar, the major similarity is their both musical geniuses
My favorite Beach Boys: 1. Brian 2-4. (tie) Carl, Al, Dennis 5. Murray Wilson 6. Eugene Landy 7. Charles Manson 8-8,000,000,000. (tie) Everyone on planet Earth 8,000,000,001: Mike Love
One million views!!! That's one view for every reason there is to dislike Mike Love!!!
Does Brian Wilson still speak to Al or Carl?
@@MichaelJ44 Sadly, Carl passed away many years ago, but yes, not only does Brian still speak to Al, but they have been touring together for the past decade! :-)
@@MichaelJ44 Brian had issues with Carl in the 80s and 90s, both while he was under "care" of Eugene Landy, and afterwards (Brian had lingering issues with his mother expressing more love for Carl than the other brothers), but I believe their relationship was improving before Carl's passing.
6% likes. 94% …. Mike wrote the songs too, Brian. Ok now.
@@FuturePast2019 Yes, and Mike played tambourine and was the lead dancer. Boy,Mike coould really shake that thing.
Mike Love has had a whole lifetime riding on the waves of Brian Wilson's incredible song writing. If Brian says he's bad well the world is going to agree
Apart from the fact Mike Love wrote some of their biggest hits and was frozen out by the bands manager who was a Wilson.
So how could you know exactly what went on?
@@bighands69 Fuckoff!! You don’t know shit.
Well Mike did write songs as well. Wilson is a Genius that could’ve fitted into the Beatles easily but he is forgetting Love and the others had to earn money while he was out of it being controlled.
Brian is right tho.
If you had watched all of the video footage of Mike Love treating Brian Wilson with a bullying disrespect, as I have.... Then you'd clearly see the proof that Mike ALWAYS ENVIED BRIAN, and always gave him a hard time, for creating a newer sound. If Brian listened to Mike, The Beach Boys would've become ancient history. Brian Wilson was clearly the creative mastermind behind the band.
The thing about Brian is that he could take literally anything and make it sound musical. Bicycle bells, piano strings, beverage cups, Coke cans, the electro-theremin. Hell, he even made Mike Love's voice sound good.
Haha! 😂
Don’t forget the sound of people eating vegetables!
@redlightflash..Dude, get a life. .David speaks the truth
Being the devil's advocate here, I understand there's a lot of hate for Mike Love, but he had a unique "Beach Boys" sound and provides the lead vocals for many of their best hits. You can always tell it's a Beach Boys song when you hear his distinctive voice
@@commanderkeen3787 I won't deny Mike's role in the band from 1961-1973, he actually wrote some pretty good songs, but he has an ego problem unlike most rockstars
It was nice of Brian to let Cousin Mike play tambourine in his band.
Davy Jones was better.
And the two notes he learned on that fuckin sax!
@@RangerVickyJohnson Mike was the voice of The Beach Boys regardless of your man crush for Brian.
@@jmadratz damn sad truth
@@jmadratz He was *A* voice in The Beach Boys... not THE voice... and Brian, Carl, Al, Bruce, Dennis and Blondie all sang better than Mike... so... I don’t really see what you’re getting at. There are 99 reasons to like The Beach Boys and Mike Love ain’t one...
I took care of Mike Loves dad when I was a paramedic. He (ML) was a real prick in the ER, had a real "you know who I am, right ? kinda attitude. I ignored him and took care of his dad.
You did your job. He tried to get in the way.
Why does this not surprise me
I think I probably would’ve had to reply “you’re Brian Wilson’s cousin right?”
@@michaeldecker1570 nice, haha for sure
@@michaeldecker1570 Ha!😄Perfect🙏💥
“Brian is the 🏖Beach Boys, we’re just his messengers” - the late great Dennis Wilson 🥁
he even used the beach emoji😤😤 this man was ahead of his time
"We're his fucking messagers"... 😁
Dennis was an awesome talent in his own right. Listen to "Forever" from the Beach Boys, or "Constant Companion" or "It's Not Too Late" from his solo record.
@ When Dennis died, I recall "People" magazine writing a story about him and how he loved needling Mike Love. Dennis' last wife was Mike Love's daughter. But Dennis liked to walk up to Mike on plane trips and throw up all over him. I'm guessing the story was true if it came from People magazine.
@ Dennis was a serious alcoholic and drug abuser. I can see him doing it. I was in a fraternity in college during the "Animal House" era and saw a fair amount of that kind of crap.
Al Jardine is what I’d consider the most normal beach boy. Everyone had a role. Brian was the genius. Dennis was the pretty boy. Mike was the villain. Carl was the straight man. And Al was just there and I kinda love that
Mate, I think you're spot on! You've everybody's roles perfect. I look at Jardine this way - He's the normal guy; he's the 'every man'. He's the Beach Boy that I'd want to be. I don't want to be the genius, the villain etc - but I sure as hell wanna be part of it!
Carl was the good musician. He was the only one who actually played along with The Wrecking Crew
@@Syfoll i've always said that Brian was the Heart of the band and Carl was the Soul of the band it fits ya know? i love Al as growing up he was my favorite, he's always seem to be the laid back kind of guy i dunno if he is or not but that's how it feels to me anyways.
Al was also the only original Beach Boy who wasn’t a member of the Wilson Family, so he avoided all that drama.
@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 i dunno about that i'm sure he was forced to be apart of some of it
When Brian was their producer, they made Pet Sounds.
When Mike was their producer, they made Summer In Paradise.
Nuff said.
David--
you nailed it--- "Summer In Paradise"......Sucks.
@@prismblue8514 Way down in Kokomo.
aka "Winter in Loveland"
Mike Love didn't produce that album but it was a horrible album. There was no Brian Wilson involvement on it whatsoever. In fact, it has session musicians along with Carl, AL, and Bruce doing background vocals behind Mike's lame singing.
🎶WELL HEY NOW *well it's a love thang* 🎶
He can't be that bad. Love's ONLY been divorced 7 times.
They do say that love is blind.
Oh wow!
Married five times with 8 kids. Mike’s been married since 1994 and lives in Incline village NV/
@@alanderson9711 I have in front of me my copy of MOJO Magazine, January 2006 in which it's reported that Mike Love was suing Brian Wilson (again). One of the reasons, according to Van Dyke Parks was possibly "the economic pressure of seven ex- wives". I'm going with MOJO and the guy who had to put up with Love. In addition, the biography Heroes And Villains - The True Story Of The Beach Boys by author Steven Gaines documents Love's penchant for domestic abuse in the late 60's. So much for Transcendental Meditation.
SEVEN TIMES?
Mike Love would be washing cars in Hawthorne if it wasnt for Brian.
Andy Marshak And Brian would be in a box without Mike. What’s your point?
@@bryan_witha_whyy no Mike continuously behaved in a belittling manner toward Brian. It is other people such as Brian's first wife Marilyn and second wife Melinda and his good friends that Brian is still with us- not Mike!
@@bryan_witha_whyy my point is that your last nams is probably Love so GFYS.
John Deegan Brian ruined what The Beach Boys had going because he was a loser junkie. If he would have sought help and laid off the drugs who knows what they would have recorded? At least Mike took accountability in his life and didn’t become a joke.
show some respect, Andy.
Mike Love is the perfect example of the rooster who thinks the sun comes up because he crows. The lack of self awareness gives all of us the douche-chills.
How do you know, you sound like you were part of the band.
@@jmadratz 50 years of obviousness?
@@forrestgreene1139 Your use of the question mark is appropriately placed.
@@jmadratz Mike Love is a talentless douchebag. Anybody who's been in any band knows his type.
@@richsackett3423 ok Ringo
Let's be honest, Mike was simply at the right place at the right time. He's no John Lennon or Paul McCartney or Brian Wilson. Mike is definitely the weakest link.
They're cousins, you know that, right?
@@cordelianoelle3644 it still doesn’t change anything
@@nowherelift yeah it does, cause if they weren't, there was probably no chance of him joining the group
@@Mr_Lemon4813 what are you getting at?
The weakest link in a chain it breaks
Brian just plainly states that he doesn't like an ego-maniac. Can't blame him.
Um, yes, that is exactly what he does.
@@fifthbusiness1678 ....Um...nothin'.
@@theSword-
So was it right to allow Mike Love to be frozen out of the song writing credits?
@@bighands69 ....I never said anything like that, and I have no knowledge of it.
Myself, I always give credit where credit is due. What anyone else does, I can't answer for.
I said I can't blame him for not liking an egomaniac.
Wow, I've never seen Brian be so blunt about how he feels about Mike!
It was part of his healing process I guess Brian will have to forgive him next life
Because was an active supporter of Trump and Brian was not
@@jmadratz Because Mike Love co-opted The Beach Boys name and brand and shut Brian out.
That’s refreshing. Band members hold back often and that’s how bands fall apart.
@@jmadratz That’s such a small piece of the puzzle. Brian does not like Mike Love for a lot of reasons, even going back to the 60s when they were together.
I miss Denis man. I think back about his life and it breaks my heart. Murray fucked those boys up so bad and it has haunted them even after he died. Denis was lost after the band washed up, a lost lonely very damaged and misunderstood rock Icon. He was The Beach Boys, the only one to actually surf, self taught drummer, lyricist, Race Car Driver, Ladies Man, Tough S.O.B, amazingly Handsome and also an avid Sailor who loved the ocean. And most of all, he was always fiercely loyal to Brian, the true genius behind the band! Denis was a true renaissance man! Rest in piece Denis, we will never forget you.
Well put. Sail on Sailor…
And you didn't even touch on the grip of fear that he apparently quietly lived under after his early encounter with The Family. If reports can be trusted, he was extorted out of much of his wealth and much of his youthful sunny presence by that fateful association. It's horrible to contemplate the sort of dread - the sort of secrets - he likely took with him when he left us.
Your spelling of "Dennis" baffles me.
@Thaydrian, Thank You for your terrific statement, I agree with you 100%. I loved Dennis Wilson for all the reasons you have mentioned so well. I was crushed on that December day in 1983 when I heard that he had drowned. PS, there's a really good documentary on CZcams about Dennis. It's called "Dennis Wilson, The Real Beach Boy." check it out!
My heart goes to Brian Wilson. He had to do everything on his own because he was surrounded by greedy unimaginative corporate hags. They ditched him when he lost it and he got picked up by a master manipulator life coach at his low point.
Brian deserves all the love in the world. He was one of the best musicians in the world
SO you are saying Mike did not write any of their songs?
Writing some songs, hits or not, doesn't make someone pleasant to be around. Mike has been shown to be a whiney, boorish pain in the ass for years. If not for the Wilsons we would never have heard of him.
@@bighands69 yep. Mike just added stereotypical words about surfing and cars to music that pretty much all the other members wrote. Mike didn't even write the original lyrics to alot of their hits. Mostly, Brian or someone else would write lyrics that were perfectly fine, but Mike would have a problem about it, and would rewrite them, sometimes even renaming the whole song. So yes. He didn't write shit. He changed stuff everyone else already wrote.
Well except for his brothers, both carl and Dennis were upstanding guys.
@@bighands69 I didn't read that in what he wrote. So not sure where or how you did.
Mike Love's sole talent is that he's Brian Wilson's cousin.
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That’s simply not true. Brian might not like his cousin Mike but he has tremendous respect for him and has always lauded Mike’s incredible talent, especially as a singer, but also as a writer and a performer.
@@lancerooke always? Didnt you watch the first part of the video where he mocks him? Lol.
@@glh7728 I did. But he’s said many more positive things over the years. I don’t focus on negativity and momentary spite. The real truth is what he’s said consistently over the years. And that is overwhelmingly glowing praise.
@@lancerooke just correcting you on the usage of "always" because it's certainly not the truth whether you want to focus on the positive or not.
I've met Mike Love as well as Brian Wilson and Brian is dead on right. Mike's ego is bigger than their venue. Brian was super cool.
Still is.
You are talking crap at best.
@@bighands69 I'm talking crap? I've net them both, idiot. Mike's a tool....Brian is cool. I have no reason to talk crap. I'm a musician who traveled near and far. More than you..
@@bighands69Nope, he's not. I too have met Mike and Brian and the energy of the two couldn't be more different. Brian seemed humble, kind, and generally very happy to be chatting. Mike, on the other hand, acted as if I should be thankful to be in the same room. He has this undeserving sense of entitlement to him and his narcissism was undeniable.
U dong know something
He misunderstood when The Beatles said, “all you need is love” thinking it meant he needed Mike love.
🤣🤣
Lol
They brought him to India just for the lulz.
Mike Love was always jealous of Brian Wilson. He didn't have Brian's talent and he knew it.
He was a tambourine maestro.
Damn, I always assumed Brian was too nice to talk about Mike Love in that way at all, that was so cool. What a king.
Being on the spectrum, I guess he is blunt sometimes. No filter, often no tact. They’ll just say what they think without meaning to be a jerk.
The least talented guy in the band and the biggest ego.
LSD lead singer disease.
Thatone Dude I mean yeah but Carl sang lead on the more famous songs and Brain had way more leads Mike, even at the beginning
@@SpadePyro I don't dispute that. But the guy is considered the lead singer/tambourine player. A complete d bag.
Brian is the exact opposite
THANK YOU! Exactamondo! Least talent but has the nerve to have an ego big enough to rub someone as uniquely humble & sincere as Brian Wilson the wrong way.
Imagine how things mightve been better if Mike was kicked out of the group during Pet Sounds....Smile wouldve likely been their most raved about album or even some masterpiece to top it. Brian had some real crazy energy drainers in his life...thats why I guard myself from those types.
Brian Wilson is a national treasure.
His Birthday should be a holiday !
Marty Robbins, Johnny Cash or Hank Sr would be above Brian.
@@mrbobevans And Annette Funicello, the Archie’s, and Neil Sedaka would be above them...
Amen.
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Birthday is only two days after the only guy I'd consider a better composer and songwriter than him, Paul McCartney
Brian Wilson, the true genius of the '60's and '70's music scene. Thanks for what you gave to the world!
Brian, God love him, is a once upon a time erratic genius. A generational innovator. Mike Love, is a below average vocalist, with some savvy. He always seemed eerily out of place with the brothers, and the music. No question of who is the soul of The Beach Boys.
I love Brian Wilson, a true musical genius. A gift he is to the world.
absolutely
❤
Mike love gave the worst speech at the rock and roll hall of fame.
Mike Love has delusions of grandeur - I honestly believe that Mike thinks that he is an equal to Brian Wilson the same way Lennon and McCartney were.
@NY Devil, they came together so they could teach Harrison how to write a catchy song.
Exactly
@Atomic Elbow, in what sense? He released one good album then slumped into a long period of mediocrity. This "George was the true genius" revisionism doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
Donna Cianciosi Lennon had real talent. McCartney wrote kindergarten music for little children. Compare their solo careers.
Sloth from The Goonies YES! George Harrison was a musical genius. Unlike that crappy kid music that Paul McCartney wrote. Compare their music in their solo careers.
I love how Brian is always so completely honest lol. "Can't stand the guy, can't be around him for more than 5 minutes, I really don't like him at all". Most artists would probably say something more corporate like "we've had our differences" or just avoid the question
Especially since they’re COUSINS
I have never heard one good thing about Mike Love, ever- Not even once.
Me neither.
Ok and?
I actually have seen a few people who liked him, but said Bruce Johnston was an ass
One thing we can all learn here: Never meet your idols
@@quinnrollen right.
Brian Wilson is right...and he cites the right reasons.
Mike Love NEEDS the Beach Boys name to tour and release music and just cashed in on the nostalgia and the hype whereas Brian is a legend and his name itself is enough.
Well put.
@- Morales It was Pete Best who wasn't a Beatle.
Sad that he needs autotune live the last few years and needs screens to know the lyrics. Poor guy.
Brian needed a lead singer. It is a business. The music business is not a nice business
Well, to tour anyway. Love's version of the Beach Boys isn't allowed to release music under that name without Brian's OK.
Without Brian Mike would have been assistant manager at Walmart making everyone’s life miserable.
And married to a "Karen".
@@robertway5756 Apparently 7 Karens
Thank you, Brian! You just said what all of us have been thinking over the years! 🙌🏻
Brian Wilson is the reason the BB had the success they had. He's the true genius behind the band. Mike Love was a coat-hanger.
Baloney.
Still is
Apart from the fact Mike wrote some of their best songs. People need to get of that stupid train.
@@bighands69 which ones?
Did you say his mom should have used a coat hanger?
Gosh, I love Brian! Says what's on his mind. Will always miss Carl. Great laughter between Carl +Al
Brian Wilson is truly the most talented and humble of geniuses. The world is a better place because of his music. What a comfort it has been to me for many years.
Beautifully said, and so very true!
I met him and Al at this private meet and greet before a concert. I am just obsessed with his life story. He was an absolute darling. And Al loves him so much. Brian has this sort of child like innocence about him. If you haven’t seen it, you should totally check out “love and Mercy”, it’s a biopic about Brian. What Gene Landy did to him is just awful. He basically enslaved Brian. Wouldn’t even let him see his children.
@@mattlawson714 it's a powerful documentary. That's so amazing you got to meet him! Wow!
I don't recall ever hearing anyone say anything good about Mike Love, the dude seems to be universally hated.
as john lennon once said, its just a band. its not important
well, i do hate love, but i will give him credit for the lyrics to the warmth of the sun + please let me wonder.
The fact that Mike Love is still alive and Dennis and Carl Wilson aren't just pisses me off!
Thank you!! I have always felt this, but hesitated because of the harshness. I agree with you completely!!
Carl’s vocal on god only knows is earth shattering. Music can’t get any better in my eyes and I’m English and more of a Beatles fan. I’ve loved that song since being a small child of 5/6
Mike Love was not a drug obsessed hippy maybe that was the reason he did not die. Pet sounds was a dreadful Beach Boys album with one or two good songs.
bighand69 people like you are the reason why there is a hell
@@rhodeshullmusic
The original comment was "The fact that Mike Love is still alive and Dennis and Carl Wilson aren't just pisses me off"
That was a disgusting thing to say and I pointed out that Mike Love was probably alive because he did not have a drug problem like other people have had.
And you think I am the reason for hell?
Wow! I like Brian's honesty.
Most people who know Mike Love hate Mike Love. Most who've heard him talk for 5 minutes, hate Mike Love.
Mike Love has the most ironic name in the universe.
Yeah, it's kinda of a Love - Hate relationship!
ralphyetmore, and anyone that has heard him sing has said, I could take his place!
@@thelakeman5207 maybe more Hate-Love relationship lol.
Mic Love. His nephew Kevin is the biggest douche to ever grace the hardwood too, it's in the blood.
His name is actually short for mike loves himself
Brian Wilson is the talent, and he’ll always be remembered.
Dont think he's dead
Say Brian Wilson to anyone and they say Beach Boys ...
Say Mike Love to anyone and they say Who's That....
exactly
I'm sure most people know who Mike Love is. Is that really his real last name.
Or we just say: Mike Love is a douche bag of the highest order.
@@lamarravery4094 Yes, that is his real last name - Love was born in Los Angeles, California, the son of Emily Glee (née Wilson) and Edwin Milton Love. In addition to being cousin to the Wilson brothers, Love is the brother of former NBA basketball player Stan Love and of Pink Martini harpist Maureen Love, and the uncle of Minnesota Timberwolves basketball player Kevin Love.
Ticonderous1 BS. Anyone who knows ANYthing about Brian Wilson or The Beach Boys has heard of Mike Love.
Mike Love's hall of fame speech is legendary levels of cringe.
Also that he couldn't take off a damn baseball cap even while wearing a tuxedo...
@@skakirask yeah, the dude is a clown.
So true, it's hard to watch that speech, and I don't even like the guy.
The only good thing to come out of Mike Love's drunken Hall of Fame speech was the opening of Bob Dylan's Hall of Fame speech:
"I would like to thank Mike Love...for not mentioning my name..."
I actually quite like it.
:-)
Brian was 100 percent correct in his assessment.
Brian made these people. Built a songbook in less than 10 years and went dark for 35 plus. The rest of the band really made on his songs.
"Brian Wilson doesn't like Mike Love... and he's right"
You know who LOVES Mike Love? Mike Love loves Mike Love.
In other words.... How much love would a Mike Love love if a Mike Love could love Love? :P
Brian Wilson loves Mike Love. He may say he doesn’t like him, but they are family. And Brian consistently praises Mike’s talent as a singer, a song writer, and as a performer.
@@richo8767 NAILED IT!
I'm going to use this a LOT!
How much royalties do you want?
steve
I love Mike!
Brian Wilson is a musical genius. Watch Leon Russel's assessment of Brian Wilson on "The Wrecking Crew" to understand the extent.
Mike "everyone's least favorite Beach Boy" Love. 💋💕
And that's counting Blondie Chaplin, Ricky Fataar and Murray Wilson.
@@robertway5756 Everyone loves Blondie
@@JY-bw2qz
True, just seemed like sort of an odd fit to me.
Mike Love is exactly as Brian said and Mike Love would be NOTHING without Brian Wilson!! Let that set in your brain a few mins...#BrianWilson
Obviously I don't know Mike Love but he always annoyed me. He always reminded me of the hanger - oner in the band. Minimal input. Loved the attention.
I have been in many bands in the last 25 years with people with the same personality traits as Mike. I have never met him but from a lot of footage and reading his autobiography I highly doubt that I would get on with him. Annoying is not the right adjective
I was lucky to see the original lineup when they came to the UK in 1980, a brilliant openair concert that will stay in my memories forever, Thankyou guys.
Wow that's awesome. I was Born in 1980 i wish I was born a lot earlier to see them
@@heathervelasco5159I was 2 years old in 1980.
Was that at Knebworth?
@@dumfriesspearhead7398 yes it was, great lineup of other bands too👍
@@classiccarrebuilds2771 I watched the film of that concert on Amazon Prime on Saturday. The atmosphere looked electric!
Mike Love became an opportunist. He also turned The Beach Boys into a Vaudeville act and then into a garage band.
Exactement ! Ils sont venus en France, je les ai vus 2 fois et bien fadent sans Brian. Mike Love a dénaturé le groupe de ma jeunesse. Mille mercis mes chers BB et Brian le génie ❤
The Mike love beach boys tribute band
Personality aside, just musically speaking, its ridiculous to even speak of Brian Wilson & Mike Love in the same sentence. There can be no comparison. The genius and the dwarf. Brian is a titan, a blessing given once in a lifetime. Mike Love is at best an average talent, adorned in baubles & lacking in substance.
While Brian Wilson was doing Pet sounds, Love was talking to continue to talk about cars, beach and surf.... A fucking wanker.
ChismsTrail No One ever compares them musically, but Mike Love was an important part of that group - he’s the only one that exhibited any personality on stage and in interviews. you could tell he was a happy guy, he had fun performing. the others were great musically, but, except for Dennis, they were very subdued, more cerebral. Not that there’s anything wrong with being cerebral, but Mike Love was the one that brought the fun to the performances.
You dont understand...Mike wrote the great lyrics maaan. Like “I get around” 🤮
Crimson King Let’s make it common enough to be recognized by Oxford!😜
Mike is important to the group. It's too bad if he's a jerk (like most famous people tbh) but he's awesome and their music is absolutely beautiful.
Dennis Wilson pulling Mike’s hat off and throwing it into the audience to expose his baldness was a class move
would love to see the video of that. lol
Where the video
BaronVonPenguin You need a dictionary.
Baron....Wrong, wrong, wrong !
did you forget that Dennis hated Mike love so much he ended up marrying his Daughter and had a kid with her? now that's real hatred there
Mike Love always seemed to me that he wanted the most attention and was the one with the least talent.
and what did he name is son !!! someone he had a lot of respect for , check it out.
I was hired as a temporary roadie for a Beach Boys concert in Emporia Kansas in the early 70s. I got to eat lunch with them at a Ramada Inn and was disgusted with Loves bitching about his vegetarian meal they prepared for him. Brian Wilson wasn't on this tour but everyone in the band was pissed and embarrassed by his Prima Donna behavior.
Ah, Mr. Inner Peace in his element.
OMG I would love to write a fictional comic about that 😂
Mike Love would be looking for a car to wash in Muleshoe, Texas, if it weren't for Brian Wilson.
Mike benefited greatly from being related to geniuses who let him come on the ride
He just seems like the kinda guy that would steal the Beach Boys name for himself. That's the kind of guy he is.
Brian was so disgusted by the litigation that he let Love have the name Beach Boys.. and co-writing credits on a bunch of songs he wrote 2 lines for.
What is the name of that "beach Boys" cover band?
Thanks to Hateful Mikey, the name is "The Beach Boys."
Brian, Dennis or Carl are never mentioned. Either are
Alan or Matt Jardine. Later this year, (already have
tickets) Brian, Alan, and Matt will be in town. Along
with the band so good, they named a city after them.
Chicago!
steve
He did though. Al Jardine and Brian Wilson aren't allowed to tour under the Beach Boys name, but Mike is.
@@steveskouson9620 Straight up wrong. I've been to the shows. They talk plenty about the genius of Brian's songs and about Brian and Carl's vocal performances. They're all about the legacy.
Lmfaoooo Brian making fun of Mike’s voice. The shade is unreal. I love Brian.
When Brian says something you know it's sincere - this guy just cannot lie.
Personally, I always seen Love as the most easy BB to replace.
This. Yeah he was the bass voice in their harmony stacking but even there he doesn't have a particularly deep voice.
It was Mike Love that kept the BB on track. Brian Wilson wanted to make experimental hippy music that was dreadful. Pet Sounds was a juck Beach Boys Album because it was all Wilson.
Mike Love did not want that new age hippy sound as he knew it was not the Beach Boys. If Wilson had of released that on his own he would have been blasted by everybody and considered terrible.
The only real Beach Boys song on it was Wouldn't It Be Nice.
bighand69 lol Pet Sounds is basically universally revered as one of the best albums ever made.
bighand69 There were a ton of other surf bands around in that day that nobody remembers and the reason that is is that none of those bands ever made a Pet Sounds.
bighand69 Stop baiting, troll
Top five 1960s song writers in my opinion: Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Paul Simon, Bob Dylan and Brian Wilson. Not necessarily in that order. Agree? Disagree?
I would say that is pretty much my exact top 5... nailed it IMO.
Holland Dozier Holland maybe? Goffin King?
Amen to that
Maybe Harry Nilsson too but his decline was fast and sad.... Him and Lennon hung out all the time back in the day apparently
You have to have Mick or Keef in there.You have to.
Al Jardine is a genius.
Didn’t Mike Love call Pet Sounds a “Brian Wilson solo album featuring the voices of The Beach Boys”? If that’s true, how could he not be sorry and embarrassed 😳 for trying to minimize his association with such a legendary album?
Because he really is that stupid
While I'm the last person to defend Mike Love on most things, he's not neccessarily completely wrong here. The compositions are all Brian. The music is done mostly by the Wrecking Crew. The lyrics are mostly Brian and his writing partner at the time. Most of the recording was done while the rest of the Beach Boys were on tour. It's mostly a record about Brian's anxieties at the time. Mike's kind of right but for all of the wrong reasons
Pet Sounds popularity was very slow to arrive. Bear in mind it was a 'critic' for Rolling Stone mag who shit all over P/S's when it was first released in '66. Said it was 'a self-indulgent mess.' Imagine. Pop music critics are like screen doors on a submarine: Interesting idea. But not at all practical. The band (Beach Boys) wasn't particularly thrilled with P/S's either, at the time. The songs were wayyyy ahead of their time. 55 year later the LP sounds as good as the day it was cut. Rolling Stone Mag on the other hand, hasn't aged nearly as well..........
@@davidowens5898 yeah but you're talking about rolling stone and the beach boys record co. Probably didn't bribe him to get a good review
I openly wept the first time I listened to Pet Sounds.
Mike Love is a egotistical ham while Brian Wilson is an American musical treasure.
I can’t say I blame Brian at all, not one bit.
News flash...No one really likes mike love, except mike love.
Mike Love is the true villain of the Beach Boys story. And that story included Dr. Landy and Charles Manson.
What about Murray Wilson?
He crushed Brian's eardrum
Stole the band's royalties etc etc
Mike isn't well liked yea, but Murray Wilson is the real villain:
Heroes: Brian, Al, Dennis, Carl, David, Bruce
Villains: Murray & Mike
Todd in the Shadows?
@@someguy7424 Most likely
Yo Brian. I don't care for Mikey either. But love you and the rest of the Boys!❤️
Not surprised. I never did like Mike Love. When I saw them live on stage, he was a real douchbag and all the other guys were GREAT with the fans!! 🥰🥰 He acted like he couldn’t be bothered Smh 🤦🏻♀️
Mike Love....Mike who? Oh that bloke hanging out on the fringe living off Carl and Brian Wilson.
0:46 Now I see the importance of giving Mike an instrument 😂
“Not at all I don’t like Mike Love at all” 😂
Doesn't like Mike Love? Isn't that kind of like saying you don't like root canal?
Wilsons/Jardine: four part vocal arrangements. Love: Bomp-ba-bomp-ba-baaaa.
I am more fond of bomp bomp bee bee bomp bee baaa baa bomp bomp bomp baabomp My fave
i always thought Al Jardine was the talented one
Every time Brian Wilson mocks Mike Love, an angel gets its wings and another girl rejects Mike Love from her DMs.
Mike Love is the only stand-alone lead vocalist who's the 3rd or 4th best singer in the band. He looked 40 when he was 20, can't dance but insists on doing it, and hated Pet Sounds. What's not to "Love"?
Are you a poet? That was beautiful.
I have seen both Brian Wilson and Mike Love's Beach Boys live in the last 12 months. The crowds and the reactions they get could not be more different.
When Brian is on stage there is a genuine warmth and hero worship that comes from the audience.
Mike's is more manufactured, running videos at the back of the stage showing him in the 60s with The Beatles and then talking about "my cousin Brian" all the time.
Brian just performs and the crowds love him.
Your comments solidify my impression that Brian is a creative musician, Mike is an entertainer.
Some music manage to combine the two fairly effectively but the true creatives are either sensitive and don't like the uncontrollable public that much, or take themselves or their work too seriously and have trouble really warming to audiences - who already warm to them thru their music. One of the strengths of the Beatles was they had two of each type, it made them damn near impregnable during the peak popularity years which would have caused less well-balanced outfits to implode.
There are myriads of examples to study but consider the strong egos in the Stones, the Who, the Eagles, the Police. And how they caused those bands great tension.
Ian Bartle A great point well made. The dynamics in bands is something that has fascinated me over time because of the way it relates to real life.
It also tells us a lot about band managers and how important their role is in defusing tensions. Brian Epstein's death played a role in the demise of The Beatles as did the Eastman Kline battle for control.
I don't want to be judgemental as I have never met Mike Love, but he does not come across very well in interviews and seems to like being the main attraction.
I agree.
Agreed. I'm convinced some of his tensions with Brian stemmed from him being bitter over getting a smaller share of lead vocal duties starting with the Pet Sounds era and Carl's increased vocal presence.
skakirask Makes sense- Mike has the control freak impulses of a star with a half octave flat vocal range and the ability to steal writing credits with a single phrase contribution. He’s an awful, insecure person by any metric. It’s rare Brian denigrates him at all, though. Even this criticism is more civil than Mike Love deserves.
It's not being judgmental when you are simply describing what is taking place. Love doesn't come off very nice because he is not very nice. You are 100% accurate: he want to be the main attraction. And he just can't deliver because he doesn't have the innate talent.
It's too bad because I think he's very talented and an important member of this band. My favorite band. I think someone being a dick doesn't take away from what they contributed. My heart still swells when he sings "good night baby sleep tight baby".
Mike Love during the recordings for Good Vibrations: Don’t fuck with the formula Brian
Mike Love now when he’s performing good vibrations: By the way I wrote this song
In reality, there was no reason for Mike Love to even be in The Beach Boys . By far the least talented guy in the band!
he was there cousin and dad forced him in the band lol
He's no Brain but Mike provided some great lyrics.
Murry Wilson, Mike Love, Eugene Landy---the evil triumvarite.
You forgot to include evil voices in one's head somehow though.
Murry bought Brian all the gear he needed, even a very expensive early multi-track device. Murry got the band signed, not easy as they were just kids with no track record. Life isn't black & white, people are typically more complex than that. There were many sides to Murry. :-)
Merely buying material things for one's kids does not make one a good parent. If my father bought me a Cadillac on Monday and hit me so hard on Tuesday that I lost my hearing in one ear, as happened to Brian, my father would still not be a good father.
How did Brian persevere so much
r becks Lots of psychedelic drugs, booze, and isolation.
Mike always thought as well that the Beach Boys would be nothing without him, he said a few times!! Lol...okay Mike!
I once saw Mike on a talk show, and he claimed to be the progenitor of the band. That was the first time I got an inkling of what he was really like.
.... Brian and Carl .. are vocal gods , but lets be fair Mike love did his share and was part of such a Brilliant Band.My all time fav is Carl on lead vocals doing " I CAN HEAR MUSIC" ... just BRILLIANT, ... LOVED THE BEACH BOYS.
Brian is perhaps the greatest American songwriter of the 20th century, along with Jim Croce, Jim Morrison and Tom Waits.
And Bob Gaudio.
Brian Wilson and Mike Love are quite a contrast. Brian is a genius of unadorned sincerity - Mike is one of the creepiest performers to ever hold forth on stage, with his attention-seeking go-go dancing and his ring-on-every-finger, slimy huckster persona. Brian taps deeply into the soul. Mike's last name is ironic, to put it mildly - reminds me of Buddy Love. I guess Brian is the Nutty Professor side of the relationship. One is the extrovert the other the introvert. Still, they did make for an interesting chemistry.
@- Morales Please tell me you are a troll, because I honestly cannot believe anyone with the slightest iota of knowledge about The Beach Boys, Rock and Roll history, or just music in general, would make such an ignorant statement.
Dennis was the Genius?
- Morales Make a point Dennis Wilson Was the only Sufer In the group but in multiple documentaries they have stated that Dennis was the only surfer 🏄♀️ They have never that he was a surfer Mike love and Brian Wilson Are both geniuses in there own right He made good vibrations but Brian wrote some beach Boys songs to he is a much better Writer than mike love
- Morales Mike love has stated that he helped Dennis with this song’s but in the lost beach Boy documentary is States that Carl helped Dennis to but it didn’t say that mike love did but that’s what I dislike about him he takes credit from others musicians. Which music was important to him mike albums didn’t do good which makes it hard to believe that he helped Dennis
@@srhodes2381 Mike wrote lyrics for Good VIbrations, he didn't compose the music. Brian wrote the music and presented the concept about picking up vibes.
You really can't criticize Mike Love's baldness. I mean, his hair didn't fall out. It's just that his head is so fucking big, he outgrew it. If Mike Love were not a relative of the Wilson's, he'd have spent his life cleaning toilets.
Janitor lol
It's actually refreshing to hear such honesty instead of fakeness.
After a BB's concert at the Pompano Beach (Florida) Amphitheater in the 1990's, I was able to approach Mike Love and ask him why they didn't perform more material from their vast catalog that went beyond their popular surf & car songs. (Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl and the Passions - "So Tough", Holland). He just looked at me and shrugged and said "Nobody cares about that shit". Al & Carl bowed their heads & seemed embarrassed. Bruce had this goofy grin on his face like an obedient puppy dog. This scenario demonstrates Mile Love's sad short-sidedness & nauseating adherence to mundane commercialism, which has sapped the creative soul of the Beach Boys/ Brian Wilson's music.
Mike is clearly a jerk. If you've seen as much video footage of how much crap he's given Brian about the newer style music Brian had written, along with bullying him, and putting down his innovative musical ideas, then you would fully agree that Mike Love has a major chip on his shoulder. Mike was constantly giving Brian a hard time. I have zero respect for Mike. After Carl died, and Brian, Al, and David Marks did a reunion tour, Brian was willing to continue with Mike, but Mike wanted them out. I had seen it in an interview.
All Mike Love had to do was criticize Pet Sounds when Brian conceived the album, and that was it.
In fairness to Mike, the other band members were wary of it as well at first.
@@torg3481 Bruce did like SMiLE though
@@torg3481 Bullshit, Carl heard two notes of God Only Knows and immediately liked it. Meanwhile egomaniac man had to cheese up the end of Wouldn't It Be Nice and people still don't see it as the masterpiece it is because of it.
Pet Sounds, LOL, the most overrated (because of what McCartney said about it) album of all time. I challenge anyone to listen through the entire record in one sitting. The best pop song on it was Sloop John B, and Wilson didn’t write it.
@@joepermenter7228 Masterpiece? are you kidding.
Quick story.....My very first concert I ever went to was Steely Dan opening up for The Beach Boys back in 1974 in Columbus, Ohio. This was The Dan of Steel with Jeff Skunk Baxter, Denny Dias, Donald Fagan, Walter Becker and a little known back up singer named Michael McDonald. They came out and Blow The Doors Off The Auditorium. They got TWO encores and you could see Mike Love on the side of the stage literally blowing a gasket. THEN, when the Beach Boys came out at least half the crowd left AFTER Love had the nerve to say "most new bands don't overstay their welcome". He got BOO'ED BIG TIME. I left as well. Fucking guy has always been a Drama Putz.
Nor do smart audiences overstay their welcome either.
Following Steely Dan, no matter what configuration of Beach Boys you put onstage, was pure artistic treachery. I think that what Mike uttered was "Lovespeak" for what I just said in English.
@@davidmurray2539 Audiences "over-staying" their welcome?.....THEY are the Customer who pays The Coins so that Douche bags like Mikey boy can earn a living. You got it Brass- Ackwards Slick.
@@rockyraccoon3630 Appreciate that! By the way...loved you on The White Album! Cheers
Brian Wilson was clearly the talent in the group! Thanks for all the great music sir
I've been to 28 Beach Boys concerts, plus 5 with Brian and Al. I've talked to Mike several times, and always found him very nice. They're different men. Brian is a creative genius, and Mike brings so much fun and coolness to a concert. Both of them are a huge part of the success of the Beach Boys. I say all the time that Brian is a musical genius, but the technical aspects of music and harmony are not the only things that made the Beach Boys legendary. I'm thankful every day for both of them.
I GOT NEES FOR YOU. THE TIGHT HARMONIES AND BRIAN'S WRITTING WERE WHAT MADE THE BEACHBOYS. MIKE LOVE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE EASIEST OF ALL OF THEM TO REPLACE.
Thats very true
@@johnorabone6112 Yes, but david bensons comment (having see 28 shows) still holds water. They could have tried to replace Mike and it could have failed, We'll never know what any alternative universe may have offered up. Mike seems to hold down the job of MC on stage - relating to the audience and in his current touring outfit is as effective as ever, keen to share and acknowledge the times the band (and the audience) went through and the legacy of the band. It is a similar role to that of Graham Nash when CSN are on stage. It's not that easy a job when you have major heavyweight songwriters and egos on stage around you. In trying to gee people up and do a few funnies you can be in danger of appearing like a game show host. When folks pay good money to goo out and hear some of the truly great songs live, the last thing they want is posing and lack of authenticity.
My mom dated Mike Love. Always wished she dated Brian
OH you dodged a major bullet there, prenatally, that is - thank God your mom moved on.......
So did she ever comment on Mike? Would she agree with the Mike haters?
45 years later I realize that Mike Love was what kept me from being a huge BBfan.
you know, you're right..I never could pin point what it was about them. He always made me kinda cringe when I'd watch him. Voice was decent though
I was 8 when I overlooked his smarmy ASS!
1966!
steve
Without Brian Wilson, Mike Love would be lucky to be a graveyard shift manager at Denny's
I see your point, and like it, but I must disagree to some degree. Mike is a pushy SOB, very aggressive. This was helpful to the group in the early days. I think we need to give him credit for that. At some point, his pushiness spilled over into nastiness and narcissism -- his meditation practice exacerbated his deep problems (this is a common thing among meditators, meditation fucks up a lot of people). I think he'd be a middle manager at Denny's Inc., driving a yellow Corvette to work every day, saying to himself, "See my car? I'm cool! Right? RIGHT?"
@@OnePost909 Why do you think meditation fucks people up? I've never heard this.
@@ZackWilliams_TheProducer John Diamond MD, a major therapist, author of many books including "Your Body Doesn't Lie," believes that quiet sitting meditation for Westerners doesn't always work. For some people, yes; not for everybody. He cites a major Indian guru as a source for his thinking on this. Action meditation, say Diamond and this guru, are much better for Westerners, because that's how our minds are set up -- doing some creative activity with mindful attention, a sense of play, and not being hugely attached to the results -- music, cooking, painting. A lot of people in the '60s saw quiet sitting meditation as The Answer. I'm sure some people have been helped over the years, but it also seems to me that some people have made their issues worse and have become angry egocentric goofballs. Check out the online article "Meditation May Aggravate Trauma, Mindful Action Is A Better Alternative" and check out "Lost in Thought - The Dangers of Meditation" by David Kortava in the April 2021 issue of Harper's magazine (it, too, is online).
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And from personal experience, that is FUKEN BAD.
Brian loved the music and to be creative . Brian without Mike would be successful , Mike without Brian probably wouldn't be .
I don't agree. Brian Wilson is a genius, but he needed someone like Mike Love to ground him (and his father was far worse than Love).
Whether it be his lack of confidence, potential PTSD, or his mental illness, there were factors that limited his raw talent - without Mike Love, Brian Wilson would not be successful.
I totally see how Love became a vestige, but it doesn't mean that he didn't have an important part to play...
I absolutely can’t stand Mike Love, before I even read up all the shitty things he did, I just didn’t like his vibe in general
Brian Wilson and Mike Love are the complete opposite of Lennon and McCartney, but the weird thing is Brian Wilson and Paul McCartney are really similar, the major similarity is their both musical geniuses
Mike got screwed over but you probably do not know what I am talking about?
My favorite Beach Boys:
1. Brian
2-4. (tie) Carl, Al, Dennis
5. Murray Wilson
6. Eugene Landy
7. Charles Manson
8-8,000,000,000. (tie) Everyone on planet Earth
8,000,000,001: Mike Love