Huang Qiushuang (CHN) 2011 Worlds EF UB
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- čas přidán 15. 10. 2011
- So weird without the Huang pirouette as it's not part of the code anymore.
Finally a hit set from her where and when it matters, despite the leg separations on some of the turns and the break of flow when she struggled making it over the bar, the judges were consistently brutal on everyone including her...
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This should have won the Gold medal, very underscored. Her pirouettes and form are so good!
Her transition up to the high bar was extremely flat and labored. The cast to handstand that followed the skill was also quite a struggle. She could've lost .4-.6 on those two skills alone.
@@bluepanther1013 There's nothing deductible on that cast handstand. The shoot to HB should only get .1 for amplitude and .1 for flow.
Huang Quishaung swings has a super quick/strong giant swing, she could've definitely done a double double tuck or even a double double layout
how could she receive 8.133 for her E score? that's outrageous!
Ok Cheng's bronze was probably the ONLY instance of ppl complaining that a chinese was overscored that I can understand. From what I understand, you do get a .2 deduction for not hitting 180, but I feel like she shouldn't have gotten credit in the first place for the element which means no CV either. There should be WAY harsher scoring for those beam "leaps." But maybe we're way too used to seeing Sui & Tan hit oversplit? Anyways, I'm glad we never have to see Shawn or Aly attempt a switch ring.
I didn't actually hear anything to confirm but I'm suspecting that half the Chinese team was injured to an extent (Huang, Sui, and Yao). Leading up to the OG I was convinced we would see something amazing from Huang from all the WCs she had competed in, particularly on floor and from the video of her Amanar. Instead, I was sadly disappointed when I only saw the front layout from the first pass (where she landed OOB and fell in TF) and then a double tuck for third pass :(.
thx for the upload. interesting to see a chinese gymnast without the traditional red/yellow leotard. :) love it
She does deserve SILVER.
DLL has worked hard and she's been the dark horse in Beijing and now London. I admire her. She's just a steady worker. Nothing flashy...and she's not that pretty to watch but she gets the job done I guess...if you like that sort of thing. I'd agree and say Sui is one of the best BB workers this last quad and Porgras would be up there along with...Komova and Grishina.
I know but she wanted it SO bad...this is what I'm talking about when I say does SL want it this bad. Cheng is just extra special
@bernardmvella yes u r right and i think most european gymnasts use 1/1 double and double front. the ukrainian girls love double front, and indeed it is one of their tradions or specialities. like what lilia did, almost every ukranian girls use double front. on the other hand the russian girls prefer using 1/1double as i recall.chinese use both 1/1 double and double layout. double front is not as widely used though i believe there is a variety of dismounts used by the girls.
When she first joined the team she was put on bars only. She's known for making bars finals and kinda replaced YYL so that's why I said she's considered a specialist. I still love her. I just hope she can keep it together.
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I'm sure she'll be on the team for London, her vault and bars will definitely secure her that. Besides Sui Lu, Yao Jinnan and HQS I have no idea who China's gonna take though. It's a toss up between not as good but hit routines (i.e. Jiang Yuyuan) or quite the opposite with a gymnast like Tan Sixin. Definitely agree with what you said about her switch ring and dodgy transfers.
@mengymnast1597 You're right about that. I'm thinking Huangs may have been for a different reason though, cause otherwise they'd just devalue it? Like with the front salto to arabesque/scale on beam, they decided it was just an immediate connection of 2 elements, not a new one, so it was removed (that was the move named after Nastia Liukin), so I'm thinking it's a silly technicality like that that got it removed.
Just some people I've seen roaming around on here xD I don't like Jordyn on bb but I don't mind her on floor. Aly could take a few lessons from her. It's just about working with what you have because I can't imagine Jordyn doing balletic moves but she's picked something that suits her to dance to so fair play to her!
I appreciate China's effort to be artistic and even when they're not being as artistic as the Czechs and the Russians, they try and have solid technique and innovative moves.
TSX & HQS = these two have so much in them. I don't see TSX happy with just a great YOG performance from 2010-- she's basically a Vika in that regard. I think she's got her eye on Rio or at least a few WC's.
WLF: Please don't retire without participating in one WC.
SL: She's my favorite so I just want her around forever, but she's stuck it out for this one as redemption. Her retirement will kill me the most =(
I'll stop here b/c SCS, TJX, LYT, LNN, CJ, etc are all pretty fresh so they'll be here
I'll have to watch it again sometime and get back to you but I think she probably just didn't get credit for something/missed connection. It really is a shame! I suspect she might have watered down her floor in general since Tokyo because of her foot injury-- pretty important for beam, where she had an better chance (and was the most important event for her). Damn, she worked so hard this quad.
There was no doubt they'd finish out of the medals in the TF. It's a shame but you can't say you never saw it coming really. HQS is great when she's not headcasing. I know Yao was injured but that's it really...and I felt terrible for her :( I'm glad she's still cute and smiley but it makes me sad that she feels she cannot last another quad.
Ahh I see...yes that is true
Sarah isn't exactly not powerful...she can double double. I saw her landing it in training. I just think it's refreshing to see some grace on the US team. I understand that it's as much a problem with the code than it is with the gymnasts and coaches themselves. Lack of artistry/grace, toe point, flexibility is not penalised. I like the way Anna swings bars. I know she's inconsistent but I think when she hits she has a cool routine even if her rybalko is always late! I love Sarah's lines
@PhenixJoe On this team Tan Sixin did a double front (So does Yang Yilin), JYY and Kexins dismount is a 1/1 double (Sui Lu too when she does bars I think), and Yao and Huangs is a double layout... I don't think 2 gymnasts counts as all the gymnasts....
@wg1989 It's considered the same as an Endo 1/1 which she already has before her jaeger. She'd be silver if it was considered another element...maybe they thought it was too hard? Yet they gave it an E anyway...
I know she's considered a bar specialist but I think she could be a strong all arounder too. Just a matter of consistency and mental strength with her
What are your predictions for China's seniors?
JYY, YYL, DLL, HKX = retire after nationals (they said that right?.. or hinted?) This makes me sad-- these are the girls who got me into gymnastics and they were just babies in 08!
YJN is going to be bubble wrapped until 2014. ;) But honestly, I hope they'll let her completely heal so nothing will haunt her later.
ZSQ & HHD: love these two for their BB & UB in particular. They're sorta fresh b/c no hardcore Olys training- stars for this quad!!
Ikr?! I have no clue how it works, but China's choreo really needs to be revamped. I always thought that the gymnasts pick the music and at least work with the choreographer. :/
haha TSX's demeanor! :P I probably shouldn't be laughing because expression is part of the E-score huh?
@aps010154 Yeah I don't really know what the other person was going on about... The Ukranians all have lovely double fronts, one of them has a 1/1 double front even! It's a very hard dismount. I think Tan Sixins is gorgeous and she lands it really well. It's also an easier dismount to complete as gymnasts age, because it needs heaps of good technique, but doesn't require them to be as fit. The only overdone dismounts are double pikes on floor, but gymnasts from all countries do that.
She's gotten 4th and 5th in the All-Around the last 2 years so I don't really think she's a specialist, she just tends to be more consistent on the bars (Although she actually fell in both team finals she competed in, and the event final in 2010).
Probably up to the gymnast/coach/gym. Seitz opted to have that insane routine, grab everyone's attention, and then work on execution. Her Olys routine was soo much cleaner! I could see that it might be easier to have all the skills and then work on all of them together. But yes, I agree, execution is pretty crucial. And don't worry, there's hope/time- her Rybalko is pretty new! I trust that her gymnast parents will coach her well. Hopefully it won't be for nothing & Marta will bring her to WC's.
I thought her scoring at the YOG was a tad unfair btw but yeh would be great to see her hit again...I really don't think she's lost her form or skills but she just looks depressed, not surprisingly because she's not been hitting! I'd love to see Wu finally get there but...well you know what I think lol Do you think SL has the passion though? I know she stuck around another quad to come to London but to be around for 3 quads you have to really really want it. Love SCS and LYT (great vaulter)!
Now it's my turn for missing replies-
I wonder who does the FX's for other countries? China should jack Russia's choreographer. Or, who did the 2011 routines? I really liked Yao's, Sui's, and huang's.
Oh I DO love Iordache in general. God, she's got so much energy in her FX- so hard not to love. Yup, she dances well to it. I was so excited for her in London!! :(
Do you think TSX has the ability for a good floor routine? I mean, I hope that it's just the choreography and not just her. :/
Deserved silver for her effort!
HHD: ahh can she please be the new He Kexin? Well she's a good AA, too, but honestly, I just realized that I'm going to miss seeing a bars specialist! I mean, China's got a ton of good bar workers, but having a specialist with the highest d-score was so exciting! =)
My comment towards Anna was pretty unfair. She's honestly my favorite U.S. bar worker atm (not much competition tho) and her routines set her apart even at int'l competitions. I guess I'm less willing to let her off for inconsistency b/c she doesn't have HQS's well-rounded gymnastics or TSX's leaps on beam. But I am honestly excited for her to recover and bring it on for this next quad: if she hits more often AND masters that Kovacs she was talking about...
Yeah I LOVED her 2011 floor that should have earned her gold. I mean Adi pop's pick for Pang panpan's floor was great but i do prefer sui's old floor. My favorite floor skill is the gomez because of her-- does it so perfectly! :)
Didn't see this one either! In terms of style I really think Sui is better than Deng but she had the difficulty so Sui came second that day. She has nothing to be ashamed of because they're both neck and neck really.
I so wanted Cheng to come and win her VT in London :( I cried like someone died when she was injured xD
I hope the athletes can last longer in China after this quad cz the team was quite a bit older than the one in Beijing.
Coach He actually spoke out about it and any time that happens...you know they're annoyed!
Yes and that she probably wouldn't ever make it back to where she was and with the new crop of juniors...well her chances are slim not just because she's injured but that she's inconsistent and doesn't have the coaches' trust.
*Touch wood* but afaik Sui has been in fairly decent shape and she's at that age where I don't think her body will change as much. If she stays healthy and eager who knows.
Oh, I know- DLL deserves her gold because, like sui said, those EF performances represent their overall effort and DLL is the harder worker. Nevertheless, in my biased opinion, Sui's the BB champion of last quad for me. Then Porgras. =)
aww, really? Cheng's story isn't that bad though-- at least she's made her mark and has walked away from the sport with a lot titles (less than she deserves but decent amount!)
Yeah the age difference is what I'm afraid of, too! But like you said earlier, it's
Well, I'm sure it was better in 07 and Li Ya is much more fluid, but I was amazed because I started watching gymnastics in 2008 olys.
haha China has so much budding talent that we sometimes forget the juniors huh? ;) Do you really prefer SCS > ZSQ? Who are your favorites from last quad??
Yes but the problem is Marta doesn't like the same gymnasts as me so the ones I like never got chosen. I like Anna Li and Sarah Finnegan :) I also like from past quads Vanessa Atler, Alyssa Beckerman, Kristen Maloney and Chellsie Memmel :D
I can't believe SL didn't qualify...I thought my eyes had played tricks on me.
Most people bend their back leg up to touch the head from the knee downwards but she bends from the hip which is why it looks 10 times more beautiful
Wasn't the beginning of her int'l career in 08? I'd say she's improved since then.. I feel like she's just kinda plateaued- like what you said a while ago: ups and downs but around the same level.
And no, i don't know if she has an injury. I was asking if she's in good shape, injury-wise aka not as in if she's still fit.
Wow what a typo! I meant to say: "she hasn't peaked because her performance hasN'T gotten worse"
I could see her helping her team for a team gold. Her best chance for an
Yeh, that's the thing. China is massive...I can't imagine they can't find someone local to them who is willing to work for less but is just as accomplished in dance. The gymnasts seem so well trained in extension and their poise but it's to no avail if they're giving shockingly bad choreo...like Shang Chunsong for example...the tumbling was great but the choreo was so bad, I could cry!
oh I am already referring to 09-12 as "last quad" sorry for the confusion. I forget that 2012 isn't over! Because to me, the year ends with the big int'l team competition. ;)
I'll agree with you on ZSQ and SCS for now, but things can change right? SCS isn't THAT powerful- lol maybe by Chinese standards? and then we watch US nationals... lol. And idk if I'm very good at separating them by dancer/artistic vs. power- like, I wouldn't know where to put Huang Huidan!
@bieoliv I know right! The bars judging was ridiculous!
Yes, suuper unfair. The UB finals really ticked me off-- i'm as mad as Coach He. But Tan looked so happy at YOG! Ahh I love seeing her smile. =)
And what do you think about Wu again? That she's kinda burnt out with recurring injuries?
YES DEFINITELY. I think Sui has so much passion for gymnastics. She just doesn't express it so well because that's her personality. She said that she doesn't regret anything. I think her retirement decision will depend on: injuries, school, life goals, but
Yeah I watched it a few times-- but I think it just came down to her low difficulty 6.1 for WC and 5.6 for Olys (5.8 for TF). Maybe it was adjusting to her new routine? I also thought London had a tougher competition for floor (and UB, obviously) than World's. Like, ponor was shy of qualifying and izbasa was injured for Tokyo, and these two are great on FX. Sui had a foot injury apparently, so I can understand if she opted for lower difficulty during TQ. =/
be more of a power house? What about you?
Last quad...PPP of course :) Xiao sha, He Ning, Cheng Fei and YYL (I also like Fan Ye but she's also from the quad before that) I'm sure I've forgotten a few! Last quad was so much deeper than this one just gone :( I really think Beijing was infinitely more spectacular than London.
Well, she's definitely become a great AA. I reckon that's why she was chosen for Olys despite previous displays of headcasing in WC's. :P
And oh I meant that TSX's hip bending for her switch ring leap resembles a Yang Bo? At least that what I think of.
YES! I
Oh my god. Okay I'm not ready for Wu's retirement. Or Sui's or HQS's. It's just that WLF hasn't even shown off everything she's capable of! It'd be sad to see her go. I guess we can only hope for the best. :( You need a lot of mental toughness to stay on beam in general, nevermind any tricks! And it was sad indeed, but i'll take any shots of Wu that I can since she's rarely around. Her UB at fall nationals looked okay post-neck injury- she'll get back up (I tell myself).
I spose I'd just never heard of headcasing to such a level that's all :| I mean you're there at the worlds about to go on the podium and you're saying you can't go literally hours maybe minutes before your routine...what happened with lin li?
Is Li Ya coaching now btw?
DLL in that backbrace remember? + confirmed in an interview she was injured. HKX definitely! Hand injury from WC -- thought that healed, but something body-wise made her hesitant to pull out the 7.4.
Sui: yes, explaining less difficult floor? Idr if she also said that in an interview.
So uhhh yeah basically team China, with Yao's being the most noticeable.
Can I just say that we're now officially spamming this vid! I'm surprised no one's told us off yet lol I'd like to go to Chinese nationals but I'd feel kinda out of place. I speak no Mandarin! Philipp is insanely gorgeous but he seems kinda big headed about it lol and he really screwed up in London. I like Hambuchen
Yeh she has for sure :) shame we didn't get to see her Amanar though :( wonder why she didn't use it :S
why is she sooo pretty
I spose but this quad is really about having an Amanar. They musta known they didn't stand a chance without one. I haven't seen JYY perform an Amanar after 2007/8 which is a shame because she was really quite good. I hate all these untimely injuries with the Chinese >.< how much longer do you think HQS will last?
I'm happy Kexin won silver...it woulda been great if she won gold again but really I think the gold in 08 belonged to Yilin. The Chinese are strong bars workers but I think the new seniors this quad haven't been executing as well. Personally, out of the new seniors I like Luo Peiru on bars. She has great releases and attack on the app. HDD is good but her back is a bit soft sometimes and massive leg separation on pak etc. not what I'm used to from the Chinese tbh.
*it's not just Sui
And i agree that HDD needs to work on her execution but i'm just in love with her low to high transitions (I mean, she has TWO of them), and ESPECIALLY after she upgraded to a chow 1/2... I'm a huge sucker for Shaposh's. haha
Yeh I love the shaposh skills. I actually love WLF on bars
Lol we might as well skip straight to xmas then :D I guess I'd have to say Yao. I'm a bit unsure about some of the newer ones because I guess they're still quite green?
Things can definitely change. These girls are still growing a developing. An injury can knock you out and you never know what might happen with a growth spurt. Yeh these girls are powerful for Chinese but then again SCS did rebound out of a triple twist lol she's the one to watch for me. I'm hoping that when she matures she will
haha I always feel like the China is underscored.. but apparently some people did analyze FIG's results and USA definitely had the most gifts... (this comment will be probably be marked as spam now lol)
And to me, Yao's performance was after Musty's for that day. I don't have too many problems with the podium though- i do feel for Beth and the home crowd.
Is it bad that YYL is my baseline for great lines on bars? ;)
Haha I have most of last quad's seniors's FX songs on my ipod. :P
But yeah, great songs don't always equate great choreo. Honestly, after Sui, HQS is always my pick for favorite floor. =) I loved all 3 of them (that i've seen), but come to think of it 2012's was a little spazzy right from the start.
Honestly, I think her LiYa combo was better in 07...I think sometimes the second jaeger was a little flat.
Oh yeh, I LOVE SCS she's my absolute favourite out of the new juniors in terms of all around. She can tumble...if they train her correctly, they can turn her into a powerhouse. I still prefer Luo on bars just because I think her style is a little bit more pleasing and I think her releases are more unique...but SCS's combo is cool...I love her on floor just giver her some new choreo pls!
No idea why your comment is marked as spam :S Yeh they did and YYL didn't even compete at all this year. I really miss her on the podium :( and I thought she'd last longer than this. She did so well in 08. I'm gonna miss the Beijing bunch so much. Tbh JYY hasn't looked happy for a long time. Yeh I really hope they will bubble wrap her because that's what she needs- rest! She can be the veteran they need in Rio. I like them both but HHD needs to work on her execution.
Do you mean Komova's Olys routine? haha I thought it was decent! :) I'm not too picky when it comes to floor routines though- if they just follow the music and don't do anything ridiculous (ie: hump floor), I'll be content. And I do love Afan's routine a lot- the Kill Bill sirens was the cherry on top!
I know what you mean- Larisa looks like she's on Adderall or I'm watching everything sped up, but then I figure that's just because her tumbling is too fast for me to register every skill.
Maybe it was just safer not to (given the beam and then the FX during TF? stuck a great DTY anyways). She certainly caused quite a stir with that video though- at least we all know she has it in her. Can't think of many (current) Chinese gymnasts with Amanars- JYY comes to mind if she's not considered retired yet.
I don't know why but there's something magical about her! I wanted her to be like Chusovitina.
Yao will probably grow too surely? I'm worried SCS will grow :P They all will...just a matter of how they will handle it that's all...
I'd be surprised if she isn't going to London. I watched the footage of the Zibo Cup and I thought she was getting better...obviously not! Tan doesn't fluctuate like HQS she's just gone downhill after 2010. Her ring on beam is the best of all gymnasts this quad (IMO). Her lines are beautiful but I think there are better gymnasts than her on bars. Her transfers are really iffy and not just in the typical Chinese way! I prefer her on floor and beam of course. I love Zeng Siqi and Shang Chunsong :D
I don't understand why her TQ score was so low. I can't recall what it was that made her score so low. I was hoping and begging that the Polish girl would get injured or something >.< evil I know but I think SL shoulda been there. She is the WC silver medalist so...
She does but I don't really think they're THAT similar in style but I guess the headcasing is simlar :D Talking of Yang Bo, I love WLF's Yang Bo jump
I would take Yuyuan...also Cheng Fei is still workin on vault(longshot?) Tan is in consistent but that comes with being young on the team. Siqi seems pretty good as well..that will be a toss up though
It's hard to say because she doesn't fall due to a lack of ability or technique...it's her mindset so :S your guess is as good as mine!
She certainly does deserve silver. In qualifications I was shocked by her score. Grossly underscored here in Tokyo on bars. The CoP "wants" originality which is why they got rid of the Huang...
Me neither but I really wanted see Yao in the AA :(
My flatmate went to the Olympics but not for the Olympics but she said gymnastics was pretty expensive and yeh we had a whole crisis about empty seats >.< they were mainly reserved for the sponsors and their staff tbh
If I sit too close I might try and kidnap ZCL and CYB :| yeh I'd have to say it's a toss up between those 2 pieces...who wants to watch vault :| it's over in seconds...
Ugh I don't even want to think about that beam final. I can't believe it ended up being another Shawn and Nastia showdown. I love shawn's acro & Nastia's lines (and confidence on beam), but I can't believe Li shanshan fell. She had THAT bhs-bhs-lo-korbut.
I think that you are referring to Nastia? Who else bends their legs that often? She's so tall though-- Khorkina had to bend at her hips for UB also. Anyways, Nastia's dismount is what bothers me and winning an AA for not being a great AAer...
haha you're brutal! :P i can't seem to turn you around on Nastia or Aly for that matter. Grace is pretty subjective & it's hard to find anything good in a gymnast you already dislike. Nastia's attitude dampens her performance/my impression of her but i still like her lines
Not hitting splits is penalized but it's like HKX's dead hangs- can't take them out b/c they're required. It's just frustrating for us b/c we're used to tan's oversplit! lol VT- they can just eliminate that event altogether.
I don't know why people hate China so much...honestly :S it's baffling!
Raisman winning floor was the single worst moment of gymnastics in London. I don't even know where to start. Judges just tend to overlook things with them like flexed feet, lack of flexibility etc.
I think it should have been Musty, He, Yao (my opinion and I live in London so go figure)
No not really...cz she's my baseline too :P even after her growth spurt she was still beautiful. She's like an upgraded version of Ling.
Yeh I think they haven't got the scoring system completely right yet. I'm not sure we're ever going to have a perfect scoring system but there's definitely plenty of room for improvement. Bringing back the compulsories is something they should give serious consideration for sure. The judges need to be tougher on the lack of artistry >.< I'm still reeling from Aly's win. Can you tell? lol
She's like the pirouetting princess :D I loved her 2011 routine but I was getting a bit tired of it if I'm honest lol Like I said it was right to change it but not for that new routine. I think they should ask for a refund! I don't know who picks the music but some of the choices are really really bad! SCS, LP, TSX to name but a few. Honestly, in terms of choreo...I can't think of any senior Chinese routines I like...I saw a couple of juniors I like though!
Ugh Anna Li falls off fars too many times for me to be a fan. And I can never help but compare her to Wu Jiani (unfair of me, i know). I don't think the US would have won that team gold with anna or sarah tho-- definitely needed Kyla's consistency and all-around strength (well not needed for VT but even she has an Amanar!).
Same! Sui didn't mess up her floor at all! I wish her TF and TQ scores were switched.. she was pretty close to qualifying.
Yes, TSX definitely brings in some Yang Bo! :)
Yeh I prefer LiYa 100 times more. I dunno she just didn't looked switched on you know? I have no idea why she felt so pleased with her performance xD
LOL true true. Li ya was hilarious, if I am to speak of headcasing so lightly.. but I think I prefer withdrawing and letting her teammates go than just freaking out from the pressure but still performing with either a low d-score or e-score. LIKE LIN LI omg.
I actually can't remember that much from the FX :D but I definitely don't think Aly shoulda won unless they all landed their tumbles OOB. Aly shouldn't have won bronze on beam because they gave her a connection that she so obviously didn't make >.< she took a step in between the two moves and therefore broke the connection but somehow an appeal changed that. Her split leap with half turn (I think) she barely gets more than 90 degrees on that xD there were ALOT of falls in that EF so she was...
oh and i always feel a little bad criticizing because well, i can barely do a split. i guess in order to do that many releases in combination, beth needed to go fast to build momentum. lol i still can't believe you weren't rooting for tweedle since she & louis smith were GB's biggest hope for gymnastics medals and you LIVE IN LONDON.
Oopsies! I bet Fan Ye was wishing she could have replaced her :( The most surprising thing was LinLi seemed to think she did well...or well enough to smile. She looked genuinely shocked after seeing her score. Not sure what she was expecting...she was going so fast that she just didn't have time to think I guess but she can't change her style and btw no grips :O
I need a translator for weibo! I'm too lazy.
lol you say touch wood? Here, we tend to say "knock on wood" =P
Yeah I hope that maybe she'll feel compelled to prove to herself that she's truly the world beam champion and try to defend her title.
I'd love to see someone defend their title for an entire quad like kohei did. I think he kexin came pretty close! 2010, she was capable! ugh sometimes i wish they would switch their TF and EF routines! 2011 was a struggle though.
Shawn was pretty hyped up too after being WC AAer. Both she and Nastia were very hyped up which always leads to overscores. Can't believe Yang Yilin was so close. Somebody should've hyped her and HQS up! lol why can't Chinese nationals have obscene overscoring, too?
I'd say Shawn and Nastia have both had their fair share of spotlight since Olys. Both have made good use of media/sponsorships, which is fine expect for Nastia & the US still believing she's the best thing ever. No.
I do think Cheng Fei's balance beam in the 2008 olympic event finals was overscored. She had a major balance check in one of her difficult combination plus more other checks later in the routine than Anna Pavlova. As much as I admire Cheng, IMO, Anna deserved bronze over her that day.
I didn't even see this comment! Lol
I don't know if she's underscored or she just doesn't have enough difficulty but so far she's not really been a threat. I guess maybe she's not that competitive herself that's why I don't feel it? If she wants to challenge for AA surely she would need to upgrade her beam and floor?
It's such a shame about Yao :( she really was shaping up to do well in London. Maybe HQS peaked at the beginning of her international career? She did well at Zibo but maybe because she wasn't so nervous? What kind of injury is she suffering from? Do you think HQS has the d score to win gold depending on which event(s)? She always hits at minor comps >.
just Sui who's post-growth spurt/puberty.. I think it's really most of them. Maybe that'll help? I worried that ZSQ and TSX will grow though. =(
Yeh maybe :( I would have like to see Yao in the AA. I kind of wish the coaches would have swapped her in.
Well the tickets were really expensive and what's the point of going since you can only really see one piece of apparatus lol
You know how I feel about Maroney lol but at least she does her Amanar well. Raisman is like the destroyer of all things artistic!
Yeh but I'm not talking a few degrees here lol we're talking really obviously lacking split position...can we just mention TSX's ring
Yeh I see where you're coming from but I think Anna hasn't had much international exposure and she's just not one of the stars that Marta and NBC has picked out. Kovac would awesome on UB. I respect for picking out difficult moves but it goes back to the whole argument that gymnastics used to be about perfection rather than throwing big tricks. Would it be better if we went back to that? Her Rybalko is always super late and tbh I'd like to see her improve on that first!
Well I actually don't think she "should have won UB gold".. she had the potential but I guess UB podium is what I meant.
LOL yes, glad you noticed too... that was hilarious. I always wince before her dismount. DLO = low difficulty so clean execution is expected; even HQS is pretty consistent with her DLO! yeah, Lin Li is not my favorite UB specialist... To be honest, I barely remember her expect for the fact that she and Li Ya were the UB favorites for China and both headcased conveniently haha
I don't really know what's happened to China post Beijing. Their bars aren't as good and vault is even worse than before. Everyone is doing an Amanar nowadays but China is struggling with their DTY. I think they should have put either Li Yiting or Zhou Qiaohong on the training squad. Out of the 08 alumni, I reckon Cheng has the best chance unless Jiang still has her Amanar which is unlikely. I hope they've changed Sui's fx. It's sad to see China fall apart because they're masters in artistry.
Haha yeah YYL was better than both kexin and nastia-- at the time I didn't think so because I was wow'ed by kexin's liya combo but now.. honestly, YYL deserved that gold. damn, that girl was so strong in 08!
I like Luo, but I'm going to have go with Shang as my pick for favorite releases. Releases are always nice but release combos are better. =P
learn to perform with more expression and feeling, but they would have to pick better music for that to happen!
HHD is a bit of both I guess? I can't wait to see them all develop!!!
has that potential to dance well. She was ok before they gave her this new routine. She just needs something that's more suited to her. The choreography itself of her FX is shocking. The bit where she's slapping the floor...I'm always like xD she just does it so passionately and it's so half hearted. It's almost like she doesn't understand or feel the music. I mean she could be dancing to some funeral march or elevator music. She doesn't carry the happy, party spirit of the music well to me.
ANd I really the NBC trio teased her for wearing this leo.
It WAS about the Amanar-- they might as well call it The Quad of the Amanar-- China definitely knew that. They just didn't have gymnasts who could vault- Yao for sure, but pressure ->fast training -> injury. HQS.. I honestly don't know, is she still in good shape (injury-wise)? 20 is "old" for Chinese gymnasts, but it's not impossible, and she hasn't peaked because her performance has gotten worse, so hopefully, she'll last the quad. I want her to retire w/a WC/olys gold, which she's capable of
haha I don't even know what she needs to work on first: upgrades or consistency. Her OOB's and beam falls are the most I've seen from any ONE chinese gymnast. But then again, she's an AA'er, so she always has the most routines to do. =/
No it wouldn't be awks! My mandarin isn't very good either. You don't actually have to talk at a gymnastics meet, i think. Although, you could shout out "huang qiushuang I
Oh, you know your favorite, Nastia, was pretty graceful.. haha
I actually can't really understand how American gymnasts can spend that much time in the gym and still not have time for practicing some basic dance skills (again, feeling a little bad criticizing- I totally quit ballet after 1 year when I was like 6?). But I guess it always goes back to the CoP-- no need to put in the extra effort if it won't yield more points. Kinda sad but I get it: who doesn't want to win?