First Time seeing - BTS - 욱 UGH! Explained by a Korean [Reaction]
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In response to your question at 17:27-ish, the reason BTS don't "Log Off" is because they built their fanbase and career online. Traditional methods of getting their music out there in Korea were blocked to them because they were from a small entertainment company that had no and still does not have a lot of pull in media situations. They built their careers on being accessible to ARMY via Vlives, vlogs and other online entertainment.
they mentioned that in Suwichita. they are the one of the original CZcamsrs :D
Just recently their own label is trying to use them for mediaplay with their new gg ( who has heavy payed playlisting all over Spotty and on AM as well ).
@@museofwind9004 what is gg?
@@tracydowd4013 girl group :) 💜
Yes not realistic to log off. Also not enough grasp of how Korean society has such incredibly unrealistic standards for people in public eye, if people thought Jhope was too ugly to be an idol, it's not something he could shield himself from hearing about
To me the song is like a reminder to carry yourselves responsibly. Because ppl are just throwing out words irresponsibly everywhere, it’s creating so much tension and hate in the society. The song itself does not refer to hatred or celebrity life, but in general talks about anger as emotion and how you can utilise it to make good in the world or cause harm and tension.
Yes we do not know what another person could be dealing with. So handle with care.
I don’t think this song is diss to the haters. Nor is it really a complaint about negative online comments. I see it as a healthy reminder to listeners that they should consider how they are utilizing anger as an emotion. Are we just venting or actually creating change? BTS is kind of a master class in subtly crafting emotional intelligence. BTW, I really love your reactions, insight, and commentary. Thanks for all you do!
Yes its just not haters it goes to all of us
And yess to understand bts and their craft u need emotional intelligence and they built them to their fans it’s absolutely amazing and I love it🥰
Exactly they didn't mention anything about internet or hate comments
I think this song could have been the inspiration for Lizzo's recent comment about cancel culture appropriation [of anger]
"Subtly crafting emotional intelligence" Incredibly insightful comment and poetic in itself.
@@sc33h3o3 this song is 3 years old lol
The impeachment thing you will learn more about if you get into the story behind BTS's song Spring Day but it comes down to massive amount of corruption, bribery, and loss of human lives (hundreds being kids).
BTS song "spring day" mv
and then "Spring day explanation by italian army" about impeachment thing
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The whole “just ignore it” thing is so complex, when it comes to seeing and hearing hateful comments. Some members are a ton more interactive online (with fans) than others. And the men (jimin and jk especially) have been known to doom scroll :( unfortunately once anyone sees negative things, it’s true you can just log off but, damage is already done. Death threats, etc… but also, remember there’s more than internet commentary. BTS has to hear hate from all platforms and in person, so it’s understandable that they’d encompass it all in a “fuck the haters/bullies” song. I love it. There are a lot of artists who rap/sing about the topic in about 70% of their songs but it’s a lot more effective when it’s scarce.
I said the "just ignore it" line to someone who was getting bullied online and she looked at me as if I had just told her that the internet was going down in the whole country for the day. I swear her eye twitched as she was about to go into a full-on meltdown!!! 😳🥺🤯
The line "The truth becomes a lie and lies become the truth" is actually tatoo-ed on my arm
😮💨😮💨 you not playing about this. 💜
Spring Day as a song is a sad story of grief but the MV is chalked absolutely full of references (subtly) about the Sewol Tragedy. At this time the govt was corrupt and this tragedy was just the biggest of many incidents. They were also blacklisting artists, which is much more significant in Korea than the US because of how the media works so they were more blatant than any other kpop group but subtle enough western fans would totally miss it. Overall Ugh is one of my absolute favorites the song itself is so good but the message is deeply important to me and makes me reflect how much damage such inline useless anger has caused. A younger cousin has had some intense cyber bullying in middle school this year and I’m so angry at the pain some kids are causing. In kpop online bullying led to several idols ending their lives.
Netizen is an internet citizen or ie anyone online is a netizen.
DKDKTV has said some things that have riled up several fandoms I take a lot of it with a grain of salt but they have definitely been under fire several time’s. Less is the one who made this video than the other guy.
The logout thing, I agree….except, we have to keep cultural differences in mind. I’ll never understand how the gp or online communities can have so much power and impact over artists/celebrities lives. They can literally end someone’s career just that easy. Here in the US, yes people can get canceled if there’s proof, but even then celebrities can recover, but over there?…. lives can be ruined over a rumor.
100% the sliest roomer could end someone’s career. Dating roomers, doing drugs, etc. rumors has ended many artists, actors, etc. careers….That is also why you will see Idols very cautious how they interact with one another because they don’t want something like dating rumors that could damage their career.
Totally agree that it seems a bit more rash and unforgiving.
@@amberpearce710so hard to imagine having to deal with Korean standards. that's why V is so hands off whenever he takes photos and Jimin looked so uncomfortable in that group photo with JHope after Lollapalooza
Internet citizens.
For some people hating a celebrity gets them notoriety and attention they won't get anywhere else.
Also BTS lost a friend who was a fellow Idol. He was harassed online so much, he took his own life. It took two 3 other idols doing the same for it to be recognized as a problem.
It's still not recognized as a problem, every time an idol or celebrity takes their own life people start virtue signaling, talking about how idols are also human, for a couple of weeks and then forget it and get back on their bs.
Recent example being someone like Garam, a CHILD who was harassed off the face of the earth over false rumours, she had her entire life ruined by these people but ig idols are human only when they like them...
I think it’s easy for those of us who grew up on the cusp of the internet life you spoke of to say, “Just log off.”
For a lot of people these days, social media is their main form of socialization. Without it, they feel alone and lonely. Not to mention the addiction to the interaction and attention can be very real.
You might just be right. I know also not everyone can do what in think is so easy.
@@Jurnalist_ I'm probably of a similar age to you - mid 30s. I think at this point it's a privilege to have known the world outside of social media and constant connectivity. I've read articles stating how this is the most "connected" time in history yet people are LONELIER than ever. On the surface that might not make sense, but kids are growing up less and less socialized than ever. Then you add in the algorithms which suck people into their own echo chambers. It's a shame.
Netizens- citizens of the internet?
Yes
Yes. First time i heard about it i was so confused. I thought net = internet but people kept making me doubt that, lol.
I agree to an extent that celebrities can simply ignore or log off to avoid hate comments. One of the instances where this doesn't quite work is with idols, such as BTS, who live stream to interact with fans. The sheer volume of comments that flood the chat is a logistical nightmare to moderate. Inevitably, hate comments make it through and the idols read them. Some idols ignore them, brush them off and focus on the positive comments and questions. But none of us know how that comment truly affected the idol.
I honestly don't think it's as simple as logging off. Coz it's easier said than done.. I know there have been innumerable times when the hatred towards BTS has really upset me, because it is often so cruel and calculated. And BTS formed their bond with us through interacting with us when they were being shut out of the typical modes of promotion, so it is something they use a lot too. But I am glad that they do take time off it and preserve their mental peace. But I'm sure it wasn't easy to get to that point.
There are some sick people out there who spend all their time literally plotting how to take celebrities down, by creating fake stories, editing images, creating testimonies and blowing it up in internet forums where other freaks like them will dedicate their lives to disseminating such things as the truth.. And that's the kind of damage you can't recover from. In Korea, a little rumour can become an absolute storm, and can often result in complete destroying a celebrity's character and reputation irreparably - regardless of whether it's proven true or false. Coz all forms of media will blow up fake allegations, but barely any will report once they're proven innocent. So in the eyes of the public, they'll be forever outcast. That's a pretty terrifying idea for people whose careers depend on having the favour of the public. Idol life is certainly a high stress job with so much relying on public perception. So it could easily mess with your self-worth and seem like the end of the world, coz online bullying affects their real lives too.
I think Ugh really is a great track for making people rethink what they put out into the world.
Agreed, I feel like a major part of it is curiosity. Like you want to know if people like you or not especially If you’re in the public eye. You seek the attention and the serotonin boost of your work being appreciated. However this also leads to people who don’t like you and being dragged for seemingly no reason.
One of the events that led to the President’s impeachment was the Sewol Ferry Tragedy. A bunch of the students who were on a trip to Jeju drowned inside the ferry while the captain saved himself. You should really watch the documentary bc it is an event that S. Korea mourns to this day. BTS’ song, Spring Day has become a staple in commemorating the victims of the tragedy ☹️
I really recommend "BTS spring day explained" by Italian Army.. it's in detail about the tragedy and also how the song is connected..
They can't log off when they are doing a live with their fans and people in the chat say "Kill yourself" or "You should die". When being online is part of your job just "logging off" isn't an option and too many agencies don't take action against people who send malicious comments. The guys will back away from the internet frequently because they are allowed that freedom but that's not how all companies run.
Regarding the impeachment, please look up the Sewol tragedy that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of children. BTS’ Spring Day still charts every year in its memory
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TMI: In Joseon dynasty, they had one drum in front of town officials building. From slaves to nobles, anybody could come and hit the drum to cry out for help. The officials had to look into the drum hitters's case right away. From this town drum whoever can hit comes.
😮💨😮💨 that’s a good one. They have had this saying for. A while now.
For artists it isn't a case of logging in and reading comments, like on Twitter or Instagram. Whether the artist themselves logs in or not the articles online that speak to the their reputation, when hashtags are trending around your album release about boycotting your content etc.etc. or calling you racists, posting and editing your private pics which can cause you to lose fans and money.....it's a problem beyond logging out.
Netizens = citizens of the Internet. It’s just ppl online.
netizen=chronically online person
When you are confused by bullied victims not logging off, try to think of the example of those women who endure domestic violence trapped in their own psychology and that of their abuser without feeling able to exit the situation. I always use the George Carlin line "if you don't like the weather move": But offering up this advice may not mitigate the many things a person might be struggling with. External bullying easily may stoke that fire. I have had friends who have committed suicide. I wish I could have said something which might have stopped it. But reality is everyone is living in a private Idaho of their own mind. You may be strong enough to turn it off. The next person isn't. BTS decrying wanton misuse of anger is thoroughly righteous as none of us know the stability of any other.
That is very true we don’t know what the next person is dealing with. So it’s better to handle with care.
BtS built their fan base around interacting with ARMY online. They can't just log off and ignore everything on social media. 💜
I don’t mean BTS specifically more so the people who get cyber bullied who are not online personalities and or artist.
If it wasn’t for BTS meaningful lyrics, I wouldn’t be an ARMY for 7 years now.
Came for the music stayed for the lyrics.
Idols in Korea literally can’t just “log off” honestly. There have been sooooo many situations where idols have been sent disturbing letters, or somehow almost poisoned by either sasaeng fans (crazy stalker fans) or just anti-fans (fans of other artists who want other idols to fail or in some cases even d!e). For example a couple years ago an idol was sent a letter written in a crazy fans period blood. That shit fucks you up for sure no matter if you don’t see the internet comments. And plus, kpop is basically cantered around online platforms especially now so artists can communicate with fans
There’s a cultural divide I’m having on two fronts internet and Korean culture. I have much to learn.
The protests have to do with Park Geun Hye and the corruption of that administration. One of the major events that led to the protests was the Sewol ferry tragedy and it is referenced in BTS MV for the song spring day. There are two explanation videos- spring day explained by bulletproof vibes which goes into a lot of symbolism in video and what you don’t know about spring day by Italian army which goes much deeper into the tragedy. Issues with the government are also talked about in BTS’ deceptively upbeat song Am I wrong. I would highly recommend an explanation from bby gang mag- BTS More Than Kpop where he dives deeply into the cultural context of bts’ political songs (no more dream, Baepsae, and am I wrong).
"just log off" i mean yeah that's a reasonable thing to do. people are not always reasonable tho, and it's not their fault either. for example depressed person's brain doesn't work like that. when you hate yourself and see a hate comment you think you deserve that and reading hate comments can be a form of self harm too. i know you didn't mean it that way and it's difficult to understand if you haven't experienced it yourself but it sounds like you're blaming the person who receives hate. and are they not supposed to use internet at all now if people say bad things about them?
As you know, the internet is what allowed BTS to bypass the lockout and attempts to crush them by the Korean music industry and others.
The horrific level of bullying and death threats and harassment is part of why Big Hit created their own platform for BTS to interact with fans called Weverse, so they could address and have more control over bad behavior themselves.
Nunchi is actually much bigger and more nuanced than the example he gives. Nunchi really just means "reading the room" and can also be shorthand for "common sense." To say someone lacks nunchi is to say that they don't have much common sense, or to say someone has nunchi is to imply that they are quick on the uptake. Body language is as much a part of communication in Korean society as words, which is why when a kkondae clears their throat, you're expected to know what they want lol. But there are also things like the "nunchi game," which is a game where a group of people count from 1 to 10 and only 1 person can shout out a number at a time, or else you start all over again (BTS plays this a lot if you watch their variety show or their travel shows). These sorts of games all rely on being able to read the room, hence nunchi.
See these cultural gems are what make taking the journey of BTS I’m on and all the culture that comes with so fun. Ty. 💜
Great explanation, thank you! I’d kind of picked up what it means, but this brought it all together 👍
I hate the thought of playing that game LoL
This song's message is quite simple. It's about ppl being angry at everything and everyone online. Be it some Alt-right bigots, or alt left extremists. Netizens judging celebrities for their smallest gestures. Just idiots on the internet being angry at everyone for the stupidest reasons. (Like in that video called 'Twitter mastered arguing about nothing') And because of ppl who can't stop being angry, others are getting numb to it. And if everyone is angry at everything all the time, when there is a need to actually be angry because of something important that is happening, people don't treat that anger seriously because it lost all its value.
Every BTS song doesn't need an explanation....But some do because of Korean puns and sayings...Even noises mean things...So glad you chose DKDKTV for your explanation....Loving your being so thorough.
I am thankful for this song. You're right, it's sounds angry BUT it's a good way to release frustration. I think that you've seen a bit of the hate BTS recieve from the documentaries and as an ARMY, it's hard to sit seeing these things happen to them. When that German radio host compared them to cov!d and said they should d!e it really made me so sick how easily someone with such a big platform was getting away with saying things like this. To give you more context of what happened during that time, the documentary you watched just talked about how some artists tweeted about it but before that even happened ARMY was bringing attention to it we had multiple hashtags trending worldwide at #1 calling out the racism. We had been at #1 for a week already. We contacted the radio station, and all related companies in their heirarchy to protest it. And they answered with that "it's a joke" apology. So we kept at it keeping it trending and simultaneously UGH went #1 in streaming all over the world. It was so frustrating because there was only so much we as fans could do right. And like we were calling out those journalists who camp out in ARMY spaces because they could right about hair colors in 5 mins but couldn't even lift a finger to bring attention to something like this? They only started writing articles when these western celebs spoke up. But before all that ARMY had no plans on stopping till appropriate action was taken. I mean the host was suspended etc etc but it's so bitter that their apology was like "we apologize that the fans were offended" ?!?!? I mean.... This is what we have to deal with. So yeah, UGH was a comfort because it helped release the stress and frustration during times like those which ARMY has to face waaaay to often.
I didn't discover BTS yet I'm Butter Army, thank you for your advocating and fighting for recognition/acknowledgment of those disgusting wrongs
Netizens-citizens of the internet basically.
Netizens means citizen of the internet. If you see knetz or knetizens, it's the korean internet users, for example.
Ty. 💜
People love DKDK tv’s video essays. They are two guys in this channel and one is ARMY while the other isn’t. That’s fine, but he said something like wanting BTS to go to the military so K-pop could get new faces. Idk it’s been a while and I don’t keep up with them or the ppl hating on them. They’ve said a few more controversial stuff that gets them cancelled for a while. But we still love their explained videos.
they have said some very very questionable stuff multiple times over the years in regards to bts and thats why most armys don't fkc with them outside of these explained videos (and some of them aren't even that correct or done as in much detail as some fans have done threads about on Twitter for example. or even some army based creators on CZcams)
The most recent thing I can think of is purposefully doing a dating show where the first season of bts in the scoop was filmed in an attempt to bank off of the fact that bts has been there in the past. just the way they went about it was very weird and got flamed for it lol which idk it's kinda deserved 🤷♀️🤷♀️
like u have as big of a platform as you do now because of bts and the exposure they and army gave you and you go bitting the hand that fed you !! Nahhh it doesn't work like that I'm sorry
@@user-vv7hc7kb5o Well, I've never followed them and just learnt about their videos from reactors xD so I was puzzled as to why army didn't like them (this is "years" ago). The more recent stuff (apart from the love soopland) was hilarious to me: One of them or both said that GOT7 was never gonna return and whatever. Then BamBam posted the clip and captioned "dumbass" 1 day before announcing their new album back in May or so. So yeah, seems they have rather risky takes, but also I saw that apparently they are sponsored/paid by some company? Or so I read... Anyway, I only see them in reactions and I guess it helps reactors find some clarity.
The protests were calling for the impeachment of the then Korean President for blocking efforts to save the lives of the Sewol ferry riders after it began to sink. Many students lost their lives when the captain of the ship told them to stay in place, not move, while he and some of the ship workers were rescued. It was discovered the ship had illegal modifications made to it, and that the president (and others) had a financial stake in it. There are a few videos on this that are excellent..BTS' song SPRING DAY has largely become an anthem at the time expressing the country's sorrow of losing so many lives because the greediness of a few.
The BTS Italian ARMY released a pretty thorough report or article on the Sewol tragedy. Honestly, what happened that day was, and still IS disgusting. czcams.com/video/FrT4a_Fw6pE/video.html
In my opinion and as you said them being multi layered is one of the reasons why armies are so in love and dedicated to BTS. They are so clever with words. Your question about the impeachment and then the criminal case against the president who was involved relates to the Sowol Ferry incident that occurred in 2014. Due to the president’s actions to hide and protect her own and friends interests over 300 people drowned in the accident. 250 were high school students and then several of the teachers. BTS did a song called Spring Day and the mv addressed the wrongness of their social hierarchy and the greed of the rich related to the accident. If you watch the Spring Day mv and watch the explanation video made by an Italian army you will be amazed by the content and the research she did. She wrote her doctorate thesis on this and BTS. It would be so great if you do a reaction.
Up!!
I don't know what DKDKTV getting hate for exactly, but they not only do BTS' songs explanation videos, they are doing podcasts and discuss news, related too S.Korea and other Korean artists too. They actually have some range of themes and formats.
DKDKTV got hate for shitting on BTS by not this guy he wasn't there, but still, the other guy had this so-called journalist on their channel and she shit all over BTS, then the guy said he was tired of BTS and a new group needs to come out...after they used BTS to grow their channel.
Lol DKDKTV has a complicated relationship with ARMYS.
@@marlypea they also said some sexist crap (well the other one more than David)
@@WE__BTS Man, I think Danny gets a harder time than he should. Yes, he’s said some idiotic things and yes he speaks without thinking and sometimes says stuff just to be controversial, but he also does mostly learn from his mistakes I’d say. He’s not perfect, but I don’t think he’s a bad human. He did this talk at a Korean university about political correctness and cultural appropriation that I’d recommend anyone who dislikes him maybe gives a watch. He used examples of how his thought process has changed over the years. Its quite a vulnerable position to put yourself in, showing how you were wrong in the past. If you do watch it though, you do have to watch to the end though, lol! Otherwise you may just think he’s still being a dick!
@@TheIdgas idk maybe I will...but i decided to watch their reality dating show they put out over the last few months and Danny said some jokes that were sexist/in poor taste in one of the follow up episodes. When did that talk you mentioned come out? Does he criticize political correctness? If so, then I want no part of that
for the word "netizen" it means someone who lives on the internet. what helps me remember is this "internet+citizen" take the "net" from internet and the "izen" from citizen and it makes netizen. so it's basically someone who's chronically online with nothing else to do than judge peoples lives and complain about dumb stuff online.
DKDKTV got hate for shitting on BTS by not this guy he wasn't there, but still, the other guy had this so-called journalist on their channel and she shit all over BTS, then the guy said he was tired of BTS and a new group needs to come out...after they used BTS to grow their channel.
So true! I stopped watching them.
We call that wasteman energy. Judas yute behavior. We do not condone. 😂
I would recommend watching spring day by BTS and it’s explanation by Italian Army to get some context about the impeachment. But disclaimer, the explanation is quite heavy and heartbreaking and so if you get emotional easily, maybe not watch it.
I think we should also need to take into considerations that some of these idols are young people, the need to be liked and get recognition is high especially when you are in an industry that is highly competitive. They may not yet have the maturity to deal with all the hate. To just logged off from social media is also almost impossible for young people nowadays, because that’s how today’s generations live. On top of it all, Idols needs to have relationships with their fans and social media is one of the best way to do that.
Knowing a bit the tragic stories about these Idols that took their own life was heartbreaking, because not only the artist themselves that have to endure the hate but also their family and loved ones. With that context in mind, my appreciation towards BTS and this song in particular multiplied. To think that it was some of their friends/peers that fall victim to these useless hate.
As usual it was always enjoyable to watch your reaction and thoughts of BTS musics, thank you 💜
Oooh...there can be so nasty comments on twitter, youtube, etc..... unnecessary judgmental insulting comments.. I really think this is a very important topic and I love that BTS take a stand against this and say it out loud!! This is so unacceptable!
I´ve seen to much of that here in my country, and that is not famous peopl,e, its ordinary people ....how polarisation is fueled by hateful comment until people actually take the fight out to the streets! ... soooo unnecesssary and doesn´t lead to any good at all!! They are not solving anything, just making everythting worse!
11:38 I think this could also kind of connect to a song called Eight by IU ft. Suga (produced by Suga)…to understand I recommend Dkdktv explanation video for it…IU’s close friends died who were in the industry.
Link for explanation video: czcams.com/video/9Vx50rL2iLo/video.html
17:54 From what I've seen throughout the years, internet presence is a lot more significant in South Korea then it is in Western countries, though I am not sure why that's the case. It doesn't simply stop at hate comments, it's also people flooding TV programs with complaints about a specific celebrity, boycotting anything they're affiliated with, signing crazy petitions, doxing family members, harassing the company with emails, calls etc. and often all this is for some minor misstep, or a rumor. Heck, even the company's stock goes down! It can easily ruin multiple careers and destroy their personal life, which is likely a big reason why idols are so rigid about their image. To give you an example, Tablo studied English and graduated from Stanford university, but a rumor was spread years ago that this was false. It shouldn't have been a big deal at all, but things got so bad he had to publicly prove that he did graduate there, and the harrasment didn't stop so he had to leave the company to not affect his labelmates. Luckily he managed to clear his reputation and protect his career, but the whole ordeal was so ridiculous! "Netizens" are simply internet users (net-citizens) and it's a term that originated in South Korea, which to me shows again how significant the online presence is over there. It's also the country with the fastest and most efficient internet connection!
I need more Korean culture lessons 😭😭😭 these things I think are so small are tent poles in Korea. Ty for the help in understanding.
@@Jurnalist_ I also only know what I can observe from an external point of view, which is not much 😆 you keep an open mind on everything, even when you have an opinion, that's why this channel is dope and your comment section is so active! ⭐
As much as negative material on social media affects people in the us for example, I think it’s a lot worse in Korea. Some of the differences allow disrespect and toxicity to be brought upon innocent people over there without consequences which is why it’s such a big deal that BTS’ label started taking legal action against whoever tries to defame them or spread malicious lies. Korea has an insane suicide rate for a reason and while social media probably isn’t the biggest, it’s definitely part of it. Cancel culture is taken to another level over there with celebrities too. Careers can be ruined before they’re started, and basically for good. It’s a lot harder for Korean celebrities to survive a nasty rumor or scandal because of how powerful knetizens are. So it’s not as easy as logging off because whatever they’re saying about you on Twitter could be on the news tomorrow. It’s honestly terrifying.
The internet Culture is something I’m seeming to have a hard time grasping with my own Bg and interactions with it. This just like the culture divide that influences BTS music is just more stuff I gotta learn. 😭😭😭
Man just pressed play on wildflower I did not intend for this to happen. 😂
@@Jurnalist_ watch the "Story of Tablo" he is Epik High leader and was on RM's Indigo. He was accused of fabricating his Stanford diploma and literally 10 years he was fighting for the truth. It is mad!
@@AlexaOleksa Exactly! Tablo was the target of a witch hunt launched by a jealous cousin iirc.. and it's absurd when you think it was all over the validity of his degree. Even when Stanford confirmed that he's an alumni, they wouldn't leave him alone. He had to live in fear for years, even questioning whether a doctor tending to his daughter could be someone who wants to destroy him.. I really don't know how people can be so evil. People should not have this much power to destroy others. That's why I'm 100% supportive of the fact that such malicious posts and comments can be sued in Korea now.
@@Jurnalist_ no no I totally understand, it’s a lot😭 this is just something I’ve learned about the Kpop community and Korean culture over time and it’s very overwhelming
one word: substance
@17:09 running social media through someone else. For Bangtan, that would be challenging as RM himself says the relationship between them and the fans is a two-way street and very mutual. Some of the members are more active than others in social media but their stance as a group seem to appreciate the positive (fan connection) even though there is alot of negative out there (antis, haters, etc.) In fact a journalist once accused them of not even handling their own postings and interactions with their fans suspected it was run through management all to have her theories proven dead wrong. Also, Bangtan does take some measures/controls in their own hands, such as when they got their individual IG accounts, they chose to keep it "tight" such as closed DMs and only following each other. During the pandemic, they showed they needed/missed the interaction with Army by doing many creative things and constantly live streaming. Outside of that, each member is known for holding livesteams just to randomly talk and spend time with fans completely unrelated to promotions.
Netizens are citizens on the internet, the term is shortened.
12:17 netizen is a shortened version of (inter)net (ci)tizen. I look at it as someone whose life seems to revolve around interacting with others thru social media, lol. But I'm pretty sure it just means someone who uses social media.
I’m really enjoying following your BTS journey. You share really interesting industry knowledge, at the same time you’re not afraid to say you didn’t pick up on some things. You’re really going deep to learn more, and you also listen to the comments and follow up with the explanation videos and additional informational content. It means so much to ARMYs and your followers. I’ll check out your MV and other content. Cheers, friend 💜
You’ll have to wait until you get to BTS’s Spring Day MV and the explanation videos by Bulletproof Vibes and Italian ARMY to get to understand the impeachment.
And just to be ridiculous and and yet another comment, I do get your point about logging off. I also think it’s complicated for a couple reasons. As people have commented, BTS built their fandom by having either personal, artistic, or live virtual interactions with fans and have committed to continuing this despite becoming as big as they are, so avoiding it is harder. They’ve also experienced a lot more of this kind of hate than others because of their beginnings and trajectory and being global has resulted in a lot of racism and xenophobia. That being said, I’m the very tail end of Gen X and also because of my personality, I feel like logging off is easier for me than it might be for some people. Either way, fundamentally I feel like shame is one of the most difficult emotions to deal with for people and when hate and bullying is thrown your way, shame is a byproduct, even though logically we say the haters are dumb and it has more to do with them than the person being bullied. It’s a long way from the head to the heart. Shame happens. When shame becomes public, it turns into humiliation. The internet has intensified this, and whether it comes from your junior high bully or you’re a celebrity and it’s sensationalized, it’s effing rough. Most people will really struggle with it, even if they know it’s “not the end of the world” and they can log off. It’s out there, and it’s hard. I think this song is not only acknowledging the hate they’ve received and just expressing their thoughts on the hate in general but acknowledging that there’s been a couple Kpop idols that have taken their lives in recent years and saying hey, it might not seem like much but a few words can contribute to tragedy so why don’t we focus that energy on making the world better rather than tearing people down. Saying all of this with respect and just to be in thoughtful conversation 💜
Not a problem at all happy to do it. Ty for your company on this journey
I get your point about just logging off, and that’s something I would normally agree with, but with the way BTS interacts with their fans they can’t really avoid it. They like directly interacting with their fans just like they have been doing since the beginning.
I totally get that. I just more so mean in the moment log off you don’t have to sit through abuse.
I get your point, it's true that they can just log off or let somebody else handle their social media accounts. With BTS, they saw the hate comments, ARMY and Bighit to the rescue but BTS themselves handle the haters in a mature way---through their songs and achievements. With other idols, their company don't protect them as much from these vultures online. Sad to say, idols have to deal with it themselves. They can log off yes, but the hate can be like fire that if you just let it be it can blow out of proportion. Korean netizens are cruel and vile as f*ck. How many times did I see they ended a celebrity's career? The situation in South Korea with handling the Knets, especially the haters is tough. It's not like anything you've seen anywhere.
I think this integration and attention netcitizens are afforded in Korea is something I only kind of get due to twitters influence in America.
But again I also think I can turn it off I’ve not reached a level where what is said online about me I have to address despite logging out and that seems to be more how incorporated the internet is in Korean life and culture.
also this is a good explanation video overall but it's just an interpretation. dkdktv here heavily leaned into criticism of online hate towards celebrities for personal reasons i think. i appreciate the idioms and korean cultural references explanations tho
Yea culture and idioms are my focus the rest is colored interpretation I would say. But very helpful none the less.
9:34 the other guy who is on the channel is super shady to bts and armys that’s the only time I’ve seen them receiving hate 🥴
The thing is they have a checkered past of saying rather insentive things towards Idol groups l , they have been anti black and made fun of a black woman( Fatou) who debuted in the kpop group Black swan particulaly laughing at her presence in the group and the group itself for even existing, they have made fun of other idols faces.
They used to make tons of BTS related videos (oversaturated) their channel then on a podcast they created complained about being tired of covering BTS and when their guest brought up other groups that they thought could be the fresh face they were looking for they complete shut her down to complain more. They also during the height of Black Lives Matter in 2020 did a interview/video about if Koreans were expected to educate themselves. Given the history of racism, blackface and cultural appropriation in Korean media was weird, they also downplay alot of culturally insensitive things idols have done so yea. They are generally good however to put their little quips are gross
This. The constant self-references in this explanation video pissed me off. BTS own their mistakes and don't deserve the hate they get DKDK act oblivious
The busan live performance to this song with something I 100% agree with.
Agreeing with several commenters, I’ll just say thank you for watching David of DKDKTV explaining our BTS’ UGH! 😉
whether you see them or not it still affects the person. because someone will eventually tell you what's being said.
Me personally don’t matter. Unless you know me personally. It would have no affect. But that is me and I know it’s not that simple for others.
17:55 I think using social media is part of their jobs as idols, staying connected with fans online is something that helps their success. You need to have loyal fans to consistently sell work- social media also deepens the connections these groups have to international fans.
Very glad you watched the explained. I hope you watch more. DKDKTV has a few. Bookish as well.
I agree with your opinion/suggestion of turning off/disconnecting yourself (Idols) from social media, but I feel it’s unfortunate not that easy for a lot of people. I can only imagine, celebrity or not, being overwhelmed with a HUGE amount of online hate and then going to school/work being talked about/whispered about/fingers pointing constantly. It would certainly affect my self esteem and make me scared to leave my house.
It saddens me, to the core, to hear celebrities and civilians that feel that suicide is the only answer to their problem. Their friends/fans and family have to experience the painful loss of a special person.
BTS Moto: Love myself. Love yourself. 💜
Long comment ahead but if you're wondering about why they don't log off, the internet has a lot more power in Korea than in the states or the west.
I mean as you said idols and celebrities in Korea have taken their own lives over the amount of targeted harassment they have had to endure from people online, which was what bts were talking about, it's not light stuff.
While bts themselves don't use social media nearly as much as they used to, mainly using weverse (their app for interacting with fans) and having disabled comments from everyone except each other on instagram, it's still not quite as simple as just logging off.
I think unless you yourself experience being harassed by millions upon millions of people who hate you for no reason consistently on all internet platforms for years on end since you were a teenager, you don't really know how it feels, I can't imagine it either..
In the west you can get cancelled if there is proof against you and usually it has to be something quite serious, and most of the time the celebrities recover and get their careers back no problem, it's mainly on the internet anyway.
In Korea imagine the hate and harassment western celebrities get after being cancelled for something, that's just the everyday for korean celebrities, especially idols, without them actually doing anything.
Now imagine that tenfold if an idol happens to do something people don't like, for example when it comes to bts one of them posted a video of them eating an apple, their social media was flooded with hate for months because people thought it was insensitive (literally just him eating an apple), there were more people after him for that than the average exposed sex offender celebrity in the US.
BTS also take criticism to heart, they don't always just write it off as trolls.
For example when Jungkook was involved in a minor fender bender while trying to drive past an illegally parked car and bumped into another car, no one was injured but the news spread and now Jungkook was being falsely accused of m*rdering someone, it was on the news and everywhere you went on the internet in Korea you couldn't escape it.
After this Jungkook felt so guilty about what happened that in their show 'bon voyage' during filming he was down for a lot of it and at one point even said that he didn't know if he deserved or was allowed to be happy after disappointing so many people, OVER A FENDER BENDER.
Also logging off at bts' level does not only mean cutting off all interaction with fans, which is very important for bts, but also just not going online at all since you can't escape it with bts' size, which isn't very realistic
It also doesn't stay online.
For example when bts sold more albums than bigbang, the amount of people ONLINE accusing them of bulk buying albums with no proof, only because they refused to believe it, got bts dragged to COURT, these were normal people on the internet who did that.
It's not just petty stuff either, people online have ruined careers with false rumors that were pre-meditated to hurt artists. False rumors made up by normal people on the internet can ruin careers in days over there.
It seems to be a trend currently over there to ruin the careers of idols with false bullying accusations that have no proof behind them, even if the artists prove themselves to be innocent it doesn't matter, they are already connected to those rumors and their careers are over.
Garam being the most recent, false bullying accusations from when she was 12 with no proof against her ruined her entire career and reputation, she proved herself innocent but she will never be able to work in the entertainment industry again, and she is a CHILD, only 16.
This is of course not mentioning the real life harassment idols face by the same people, from hidden cameras in dressing rooms to actual m*rder attempts, for example when someone once tried to poison a few boy group members during a fanmeet, luckily it didn't work but one of the members was hospitalized.
Ty for such a deal rich comment. You guys have such great points. I may need to do a live so I can get answers in real time.
@@Jurnalist_ wow, it is cool thing
Impeachment and Spring Day Explained:
czcams.com/video/FrT4a_Fw6pE/video.html&ab_channel=ItalianARMY
Thank you for taking the time to watch what we recommend. Hopefully it's not too much to process, but I would be interested in your opinion on the song itself.
I’ll go over it in the live version. Bad habit where I analyze and don’t say if I like it. 🤦🏾♂️
Okay, english is not my first lenguage so I may not make perfect sense but bear with me. I believe "Log off/Don't read that" thing is just useless, more in our currect situation. The hate comments aren't contained in a plataform only, it follows the person, and this may cause harm not only in their mental health (I do believe people should prepare themselves before putting something on the internet because it's vicious out there) (I also belive people just have to keep scrolling if they don't like something, we don't have to give our opinion on everthing we come acrros) but their finances as well. Also, I know there´s a difference between construtive criticism and hate comments, sadly there's more of the latter than the former.
Totally understand. I’ve learned from the comments that internet and Korean culture are linked so it’s not as easy as ignore it.
BTS rarely use their Twitter now since they created their own instagram accounts
@9:19 There was a point where Blackpink fans were going after DKDKTV for "only" making content about BTS mvs, lyrics, consert ect. Wich isnt entirely true, but secondly, its their channel, they should have the right to do the kind of content they want. Ive watched them from 2016/2017 and they went from being a reaction channel to doing these translations/essays to doing cultural content to doing podcasts. Id say regarless of BTS content, or even Kpop content, theyve put in SO MUCH work in order to grow their channel that already with that, they have my full respect. But yes, there was a time when they got hate/were getting canceled/unsubscribed by Blinks and other fandoms for being "too pro-BTS". You cant make this shit up..
This isnt my favorite song from the rapline, its just not my style of music, but i absolutely respect the time and care they put in while writing their lyrics, without that we would stop having quality music. And also, DKDKTV, not every single song have to have deep lyrics with 10 different meanings and cultural refrences, but when they do, i appreciate the work they do in order to spread the message to us, who other wise couldnt get the contex. Its a good song, but not the kind of song i listen.
Brilliant reaction! Thanks for sharing!!!!
Netizens= (Inter)Net (Cit)izens
Basically meaning “people or groups of people online”
Why did they impeach their president? Time for Spring Day. And the anger was towards BTS because the are so successful and other fandoms sometimes (a lot) get absolutely poisonously vindictive over imagined issues, silly things like gaining weight, what clothes are being worn how many lines a person has, etc…to making fun of a person to the point the person commits suicidal actions. Particularly amongst idols. Not to mention him that should not be named. B.
17:11 I mean, at a certain level yes, you could just log off. But just specifically using BTS as an example, there is a level of hate you really cannot escape. Things spiral so badly from online into the real world. From smear campaigns to death threats. The hardships video didn't even scratch the surface of some of the wildest things they had to go through. I mean, where do you think the sajaegi claims started? Or how antis mobilized to petition the blue house (president) or all the bs about War of Hormone. It all started online. Then it goes into the news and suddenly it's everywhere. So it's not as easy as logging off, because it bleeds into your everyday. But either way, I don't think that's the main focus of the song, more like a good example about how anger is being wasted and slung around pointlessly. I personally don't care what anyone says, no matter how famous you are, it doesn't erase your humanity. This mindset that famous people sign up for hate and invasion of privacy just because of their jobs is just... kinda bullshit. It's society making excuses for bad behavior.
Thx for the reaction as always✌🏾
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12:15 - netizens is a portmanteau of ‘internet citizens’ (i.e. users who spend a lot of time on the internet/online)
Portmanteau 👀👀👀 they say English is an ugly language. 😂
With the fandom wars, it doesn't matter if you log off or not. Korean celebrities in particular have it pretty hard. They have to be very careful what they say and how they say it. The least little thing can be twisted and spread online. BTS has been targeted repeatedly over the years with malicious rumors and false accusations. It got to the point of them receiving death threats and having to go to court to fight false allegations. They still continuously have to go after people who spread malicious lies about them. And, as someone else mentioned, in Korea, these lies don't just go away even if they're disproven. Careers are ruined and celebrities are ostracized often for things they never did. This is what has these celebrities thinking of permanent options.
I can't tell if someone answered this but a "netizen" is a citizen of the internet. Just kind of means all of us who engage on the net.
Yeah watching an explain vid for Ugh is a must for non korean speakers
Anyway it was intersting to see your view on the lyrics ^^
Sad I am not able to get the context naturally.
17:18 hateful comments are one thing, yes you can log off. But the defamation, smearing campaigns is another thing. I can't even count how many times BTS faces different fabrications that are aimed at smearing, defaming them. Death threats, plagiarism accusations. Also racism every other day through media and different show hosts. I have never in my entire life saw such ferocity towards a celebrity
BTS regularly sues people for malicious intents and various malicious fabrications and good for them! They even have email designated to fans to send those malicious content to legal team
Ahh I understand your point with "log out", but we again come back to culture difference, bc even lets say you get people to take care of your social accont (and most people have for official acconts) so you don't really see what people say, hate, etc, to your face, then you still have company around that see this hate, this people that take care of your socials will be reporting that you have negative feedback from gp, etc, and also some news pages will talk about it if it becomes really big, any interview you have will go for this topic, company will try to make your image more positive, all this give you so much stress, especially if you didn't do really anything to get this hate.
Like all Internet part of fame in Korea is really different then you experienced it.
Also there is something in Idol world like monthly brand ranking there is actually 5 of them, you have girls, boys, gilrbands, boybands, and general. Its mesure your activity in internet and vages your positive and negative feedback from GP, scans all hashtags that ocured with your name, etc. And you get points and Al that.
It may not be really that big thing, but it is still that everyone looks at, and your company also looks at it.
Internet you very big part of system, thats bands life by. Like people with their comments can do almost anything. They can dastroy your carrier, by really push their agenda, and company will drop you or they will take you from band, etc. And Idols know this so they stress and worry. So simple "log out" isn't really going to work.
And if course you have good people around you they will help you, take care of things and try anything in their power to make better situation for you. That is why we go back to law about cyberbullying and BTS company sueing haters. Its not only shows people that say shit to say shit that it may have consequences, but also shows BTS members that company care about them and take their mental stare serious.
But your thinking goes together with Suga thinking, fans asked him how he deals with hate comments, He said "I don't read them, I don't look at them, and if it too much company will sue them." this shows his look at this but also this example shows he trust company to take care of hate....
Very well said, and just to add another thing, not all idols are like suga who can/does not care about the hate, being an idol is literally their whole life they see and read everything because haters go to every platform and idols can't just not use everything and not all companies will protect their idols like bighit protects bts take hyunjin from Stray kids for example he was accused of bullying, jyp tried protect him at the beginning but later they suspended his activities because of all the hate he was getting and he was proven innocent, it still did a lot of damage to him but I still saw some comment about how much they hate him because they saw the new drama about bullying (don't remember it's name) and they remembered him his case wasn't even bullying it was a fight between him and another student, a fight that wasn't even physical and it was the other student who started it
brand ranking is bullshit, provides nothing for bts
@@letshavefun3653 ohh Yes, Suga example I would say is very rare in this industry, like most Idols really care and look at eveyting, and try to make right any little things that goes wrong, and some of course spiral, you know read one think and can't stop, even in BTS there are members that would binge read comments, they take it mentaly better now then earlier, but it dosen't mean that if they see something it stings.
For me one of must bizzare cases was Exo with this member that started family, so I don't know much about band and members, but I remember like yesterday how "fans" were picketing before company building to drop him, like they come with their merch of him, albums, etc, and burned it before comany bc they feld betryed bc he had a girlfiend and he hide her, but She was expecting baby so he come and said that he will take break bc he is marring her and they will have baby. Like the hate that go on internat for guy, I can't believes to this day what was happening, and they put him on break, there is more of course, but the thought that you had fans and now they hate you bc you simply have life? Ahh it a looked like some witch hund, and thing it really hit me then how some fans are so deep into their fandoms and Idols, that changes make them lose it...
@@letshavefun3653 ahh and do add too I don't nothing about Stay kids but I heard about this case.
so yeah all this things go do big everybody that have some contact with kpop will heard about this and in most cases Idol are drop even if they aren't guilty, bc it is easier.
So yeah it is not easy with all this hate.
And Leseraffin case it was big too, and they did try to defuse this case, but in the end they did drop this girl after debute album. And case stoped at that she was gulity I didn't fallow this much but this all I rememver.
But then we come to conclusion if you don't have clean past don't even try be out there in public bc they will drag everything from your past, and make it go big...
@@magdalenagabrowska8169 yes I remember that poor him I felt really sorry for him at that time I was really active on Twitter because their fandom was trying to hurt bts so l remember everything clearly some armys and people from other fandoms tried to talk some sense in to them but you can see how that will go, I remember after that bts started to get more popular and our guys told us to focus on our lives too not just them so I actually did finish college, sorted my life out , left kpop for 2 years and now I'm back a lot of content have ben dropped I need to catch up 😂😂
6:18 why did they impeach the president?
Well that connects to BTS songs/MV Spring Day. (I recommend Italian Army explanation-warning it can be triggering and super sad)….A short summary because of greed, abuse of power, trying to cover up, etc. around 304 kids died on a Ferry field trip. Also many kids could have survived but because of cover up and hierarchy stuff kids follows order but also were given terrible directions…
Link (she does speak fast and quite a bit it text so feel free to pause and/or rewind): czcams.com/video/FrT4a_Fw6pE/video.html
Aside of brilliant lyrics and all of high level wordplay ( that's BTS, what we even expected?) This song has an amazing beat and catchy melody. The last part ( drop ) was such a great peace of track
Namjoon, Yoongi and Hoseok did great with rapping as well
Socials, visibility, your reputation are highly important in Korea. It's not just logging off. It's such a big deal you see people apologizing for basic things basically daily..... Online affects their real life. Reputation is too important here.
Thank you for another video 💜
No problem 😊
For me this song has even more meaning in the context of the album, to go from ON to UGH! to 00:00 is really something. I really do hope you don’t skip the songs you covered separately when you start getting into BTS albums
😂😂 the song turned into a time stamp, I ment Zero o’Clock
After reading most of the comments on the " log off" point. I just want to add how this kind of cyber bullying is not just mainly a Korean idol issue. It is very prominent in the US as well where it affects beyond just logging off and sadly, a lot of lives especially young lives were lost because these cyber bullies, don't just send these negative remarks to the victims but make it public as well to demean and harass publicly which affects their daily lives mentally and physically. Unlike the celebrities, the general public don't have the means and there is also a limit to what the law can do as well depending on the circumstances. Currently, there are not enough laws to counteract these measures completely. It is a very sensitive matter. Like with everything else, hope with better understanding, comes better consideration and improvement.💜
Thanks for your reaction, I've been binge watching your BTS reactions and enjoying your commentary. Hoping you will release a reaction to their live performance of Ugh from their recent Busan concert.
Just a few things from me, I would also love to hear a bit more of what you think of the actual song. Did you like it? And with regards to your comment about 'just turn it off', my perspective is that comes off as coming from a privileged point of view, a lot of people are unable to just 'turn it off' and it's a lot easier said than done. Many people have mental health issues or insecurities or childhood experiences that make them vulnerable and unable to just 'turn it off'. Often this vulnerability can make them go into a deep dark hole. So I respect your take but it's just not that simple and that can make a whole lot of vulnerable people feel worse about themselves.
To anyone feeling hopeless and vulnerable, I hope you know you're not alone and I hope you can find peace in Bangtan and our ARMY community.
Thank you for your kind words.
Yes I will be doing lives. Studio versions always first. I will go more in depth on the live since I have a better framework for the music now.
Thank you also for any time you have spent watching my channel. 🫡💜🙏🏾
Great reaction! I personally do not have anything against this guy from DKDTV but I personally dislike the other guy bc I've seen footage of him saying that he is a bit tired of BTS' success but he keeps making videos about them bc they get him views. That's why I unsubscribed from their channel bc I don't like the hypocrisy but their explanation videos are good.
Please know that this particular dkdktv explained is more of an interpretation.
The song speaks very generally about anger.
It's not centered to online haters.
they get hate due to the fact that their channel is an Army and accused of being Biased toward BTS
Please react to the live performance. I'm not gonna say it's easy to ignore them. But I think bts ignore the haters that's why they are here.. Sometimes I think haters helped them to get this success. Because we know haters gonna hate players gonna play.. They do hate who cares.. I think we have to become an Idol(I mean not just an Idol, popular Artist/Idol) to understand some of these situations.. To understand how much hard to face all this hate.. I have seen popular artists talk to haters through songs like BTS(ex: Taylor swift) Thanks for the haters we get the best songs from BTS.. ex: UGH, Cypher series
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DKDKTV used to do a weekly Kpop news show and sometimes his co host isn't PC enough and they get cancelled. It usually don't last too long. That's usually where they get hate not the explained videos.
Interacting online with the fans is essential to BTS. It’s how they built their fanbase and it’s how they feel connected to their fans. Logging off or having others run your social media is one of the reasons many artists lose touch with their fans and also lose their humility.
thank you
you should definitely watch the spring day explanation video from the channel "Italian Army" to understand not only the terrible tragedy that led to the impeachment of sk's president, but also get one of (in my opinion) bts's greatest and most clever instances of political commentary in their music. Italian Army does a wonderful job unpacking this tragedy through the lens of the spring day mv. The song itself is about losing a friend, but the MV is heavily connected to the Sewol Ferry Tragedy, as subtly hinted at by the members themselves. It's even more impressive when you take into context that the sk political powers at the time were blacklisting any celebrity, artist, or public personality who would speak out about their corruption, so bts found a way to get around that danger zone and create a lasting message. There is a reason why Spring Day is a monster on Korean charts, having been a lingering presence on their charts since its release.
17:48
in the world of idols there is always the moment to connect directly with fans online live.
Unfortunately, no matter the media, be it the (Korean) cyber cafe, portals like VLive, the Bubble, Instagram or others, haters enter these interactions just to throw insults and spread lies... And as much as idols stay away from the internet, the same cannot be said about family members who see these comments , insults and lies.
"Why not just log off" i think we "normies" severely underestimate how even when you log off, what goes on online might bleed into "real life". we should consider that online spaces in todays world are already a significant part of the "real world". There are real people posting comments, reading them, believing them and spreading them. A great example i always think of is what happened to tablo from epik high. Its very interesting and i recommend reading up on it or listening to his podcast on vice about it. Thats a very real example of his life being altered and threated for several years over something one anonymous internet user started that evolved into entire online communities of 250.000 people turning against this innocent famous man and his family. Ofc this is an extreme example but it shows just how quickly and unpredictably even "simple online comments" can turn into much more with heavy consequences.
trigger warning
for ugh, bts and the guy explaining the song talked about hate taking lives, cuz it actually does, in kpop. I can recall a few idols in South Korea that committed su*cide from receiving A LOT of hate and online bullying. for example, jonghyun, a member of the group shinee (which is a very big group with famous and popular members) died in 2017. sulli died in 2019, and just six weeks after that, her close friend goo hara also passed.
suicide is a real issue in South Korea.
rip to all of them.
Only year ago BTS created personal IG accounts and they did a power move : closed comment section and made it private for them 7. But for internet hate in general, I think we need to take into account Korean culture and society. Reputation of celebrities is very important. And if they will be caught is scandal or controversy being in falt, the criticism is going to be massive, they lose contracts and for some career is over. It happens. So the reputation is one of the most valuable things for celebrities there. And the bullying problem is big there too. So being a young famous person who maybe did smth wrong or just being judged for something and bullied online it is very hard emotionally. And so it happened that few idols ended their lives bcs of mass bullying. That's why BTS talk about it in this song. Some people are stronger then others but I believe context of Korean society is important here
DKDK get hate for being reporters. They report what’s going on in SK media, and they report reactions people have to this or that event, album, whatever. Some mistake this reporting for their personal opinions, and attack them mercilessly because they think David or Danny are saying something negative about their fave, when really they are just reporting what others say and think.
Solos especially go nuts about this. Solos are really organized and will do exactly what this song is about for the smallest perceived slight toward their face. They will flood the comment section with childishness.
They have done some good reporting but they have also said some sexist and other controversial things, esp the one that isnt David. They have even apologized for some things. That being said I just dont follow then anymore instead of getting angry on their channel
Its specifically Danny thats the problem, And it has nothing to do with being a reporter. It's because he's an ass. He invited a "reporter " who was really just a well known anti and basically talked shit about the boys , Danny has actually done it multiple times (talk shit) and makes sexist comments. Now David on the other hand is great!
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