Sagola Mini Xtreme Aqua 1.0 Mini Spray Gun
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- My ramblings on the Sagola Mini Xtreme 1.0 Aqua, I enjoy using this mini gun, it's really well made, sprays well but it's quite an air hog which is a shame, hope you enjoy the video. cheers 👍
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Greetings Pete;
Great review as always; I have been using the Mini for almost 2 years and find he results to be very good; My understanding is that the Mini Xtreme is a HVLP gun and not LVLP gun and hence it's designed to use more air then other mini guns that are based on the LVLP design; Sagola's website states the consumption per cap as follows; Mini EPA / AQUA = 190 L/Min, Mini HVLP = 325 L/Min, Mini TECH = 52 L/Min, comparing this to the LPH-80 (stated consumption is 50-60L/Min) the Mini Xtreme is a monster, also note that Sagola states that the AQUA cap is Waterborne paint specific cap and the EPA can be used with both waterborne and solvent based paints. Yet again, a great review, looking forward to the next one. Many thanks.
Hi Tamir, I really enjoy using the Mini Xtreme to be fair, looking at your figures, it makes sense what I was saying because the Sri Pro Lite TE5 is rated at 100Lt Min so about half.
I try to be objective when i do these reviews, it's my own money so i don't need to keep anyone happy but i do feel for a mini gun the Sagolas air consumption is too high, its fine for me but it will prelude people from buying it with a modest home setup, also the price particularly in the UK now is getting expensive, that's the two negative points really, the gun preforms really well otherwise.
I think i said in the video i can't see or feel any difference between the EPA cap and the Aqua cap apart from the colour so i suspect they are the same cap, cheers 👍
Hear what you are saying about their mini gun.
I have two Satajet 4’s.
A 1.2 & 1.0.
Both guns use less than 5cfm, maybe much less & never had a problem with catching the fan control on either of them.
They are excellent in every way & ideal for someone with limited air supply..
The air consumption for a mini gun is quite a consideration i would say, lots of people buy them because they have a limited supply of air so this Sagola really goes against that which is a bit silly imo, cheers buddy 👍
Great video Pete, I get the impression that this Sagola gun didn’t totally meet your expectations especially with the air side of things. Seems to perform quite well though, like you say very limiting for those of us with smaller/lower CFM compressors. Cheers Pete.
Hi Steve, yeah, hopefully, I didn't come over too negative about the gun, I do like it, it's one of the few guns that I was initially disappointed with but after playing with it for a while I had it sorted, it's slower than i thought it would be but not a worry really and for most spot repairs it would be good. I was disappointed about the air consumption and its a real negative imo, people often buy mini guns to use at home because their compressor is small, it is really well made as all Sagolas seem to be, the other thing is the price, these are getting very expensive now, I bought these in Spain where they are much cheaper but most other places they are not, a shame really, cheers mate 👍
Hey Pete, the Sagola certainly put the basecoat down very well mate it looks nice a smooth, Sagola do make some good quality guns but was very surprised to hear that this mini gun uses so much air, not sure why Sagola has done this as every other mini gun doesn't use that much so is ideal for the home user so I think Sagola will struggle to sell these to the home user 🤔
I've always liked Sagola as they seem to be well made but since the takeover Sagola seem to have shot themselves in the foot and as far as I know you can only get them brand new from Sagola (apart from ebay) in the UK, most of the suppliers I know that were stocking them no longer do so, what with the prices going up and them being hard to get if this is true then Sagola are not doing themselves any favours 🤷♂️👍
Hi John, your 💯 right mate in virtually everything you've said, I'm a bit of a Sagola fan, these guns don't hit the heights of the 4600, which just makes me grin every time I use it. Initially i was a little underwhelmed with them but i was in Spain spraying a friend's car only a few panels with a small compressor, the base gun was ok but the clear was disappointing especially as it used a lot of air, i ended up using the 3300 which i also bought and used that,
I quite like them now, the clear gun is a little slow but if i hold it a bit closer than normal it's really good so problem solved.
It's a shame they were bought out, as you say they are hard to get hold of now in the UK, sprayguns direct have them at £333 and Amazon UK have them from Spain at £235 but now you need to add VAT and carrier import charges to that which makes them up nearer the DV1s which is a better gun, add to that as you say for the guy at home the air consumption is a big problem, a great little gun if you have the air and buy them right, cheers mate 👍
I am the owner of the aqua model and I do not have the EPA model and always comparing photos on the internet I think they are the same. But I sometimes think it's possible that the center cap hole in the EPA model was slightly larger versus Aqua?
Both caps have an internal air shutter. Are the same?
What would be the intention of making two identical caps and selling different names?
I really admire that you analyze the products very well and are not just a product magazine.
Hi buddy, thank you, I buy all my own equipment so i can say what i like without offence to anyone, I just give my honest opinion.
The Sagola Aqua and EPA look exactly the same except the colour, as you say, they both have the air baffle in the inside of the cap.
It's not unusual for a manufacturer to put base or clear on a product but they are the same thing, it's often a way of telling the painter which gun to for what product, Devilbiss did the same with the Pro Lite and Walcom do the same with there Carbonio 360, thanks again 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I think you're right. But I don't like it when the manufacturer sells a lot of money on a new cap and it just serves as a label for the painter. I almost bought the EPA cap once and would have spent a lot of money for nothing. Thanks to the help of your video, I now believe my suspicions were correct. I still think you're a good product reporter. very honest 👍
@@sopenko1002 Greetings Ra fa, according to Sagola, the AQUA cap is specific to waterborne paint while the EPA can be used with both waterborne and solvent based paint. Regards.
@@tamiral-hadari2982 Thank you for your comment. I hope you will excuse me for speaking using the translator because my language is Spanish. I should support sagola but it is difficult for me to believe that they are different mouthpieces. I think that the reason is to fulfill more market products with the minimum factory expense. It sells well to have an aqua nozzle and another one that complies with EPA regulations. They are just my assumptions. I think the good thing would be to see a video where both caps are compared by painting the same clear, just changing the cap without changing the adjustment of the gun. But I am very happy with the gun that I have, of course
If you would like to borrow one for a review, no problem.
Don’t think they have the same fan issue as the newer one.
More guns than calamity Jane lol 😃😃😃how are you bud ?? Well I hope good little gun thanks for sharing with people with much thinner wallets 😂😂😂
More guns 🔫 than spray gun direct
@@ANDY-we7mr 😂😂😂😂👏👏👏
@@deanbrown7643 dean just seen them on spray guns direct where i got my ANI160Q spray gun £278.00 mini Xtreme
Hi Dean, In my defence I got these rather cheap last summer, I've obviously got a problem so no covering it up now 😂🤣😂👍
@@ANDY-we7mr wow wallet buster a bit more overtime me thinks
I love sagola extreme guns 🔫 so pete its a like from me well explained as usual with the settings pete the finsh is cracking for a mini gun 🔫 I would like to know what its like with the ANI 160Q
Hi Andrew, it's more refined and better made than the ANI R160 but you can get as good a finish with either, the Sagola is much more money and when you look at how much these are selling for now i think for a little extra the DV1s is a better gun
Very hard to bit Devilbiss Sri mini! But new DV1S1 way better than any mini guns around. IMHO.
Hi Walter, I think i would have to agree with you there, the DV1s is horrendously expensive and rather slow but there's no doubt its got super fine atomisation which really helps especially on SMART repairs which is obviously what it's designed for 👍
good video. Im looking at one of these now to go with my 4600 xtreme. What fluid tip should I choose? It won't be used all that much really but I would like to be able to do basically anything with it from solvent based metallic to hs clear.
I would say 1.2 for most things, if it's mainly smaller bits and smaller spot repairs then 1.0 would be fine
@@peteshobbies5383 thank you. mostly looking for something to do clean up work with. (burnt edges, maybe wheels, tight areas etc) sorta interested in the lph 80 as well. Thoughts?
They are quite different to each other, the LPH80 is really good for smaller jobs and wheels, it's what I call a micro gun, the Sagola is much more of a full size mini, so more of everything
Well that’s a bit of a surprise that it’s a noticeable difference in air consumption than say the DV1S or the Prolite S , I’ve come to really like the Sagola guns
Hi Roger, Yes me too, this one doesn't knock ya socks off like the 4600 does but its a very good mini gun and particularly well made, not sure i would want the £333 price tag sprayguns direct have on them though, at that price it's very close to the DV1s which is a better gun overall
@@peteshobbies5383 yeah I’m kind of not sure on the mini myself now, I was very keen to get one. Here in Sydney it’s $449 ( the 3300 GTO is $100 less) which I thought was expensive but in my conversion Spray guns direct price that’s $630 which is about what the DV1S goes for maybe a bit more , I have to say I’m disappointed overall now but that’s how it is I guess
@Watch This Space Car Channel Hi Roger, sorry mate, it a good gun but not at those prices, your better off with a DV1s or Ego 190 HTE if I'm honest, as I say, I paid €200 euros new for mine so excellent value but not at $630 AUD, €200 EURO is $319 AUD so half the price
Indeed I think you got it for the right price that’s for sure, but I have a funny inclination , especially when I think of how the the 4600 Xtreme and the 3300 GTO spray, that the mini xtreme might impress more in a bigger tip size like a 1.2 , I don’t know it’s just a feeling I get
@Watch This Space Car Channel I do have the 1.2 as well and it's just more of the same, they do spray well, i hope it didn't come over that it didn't, the biggest drawback is the air consumption, if you have the air and get them for a reasonable price it's a very good gun it just if your talking DV1s money then you may as well have the DV1s and two tips
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Thanks buddy 👍
Hi Pete
Out of interest what is in the spray bottle for the panel wipe.
I prefer House of Kolor KC20
But Jawel Paints haven’t had any for a year now.”Not impressive to say they are the default importer”.
Tried to get some waterbased degreaser from Screwfix but alas they are out of stock too…
Next option Upol S2000/5.Expensive.
If all fails 50% isopropynol/50% water.
What are you using?
Cheers
Hi Mate, I have two, the one you see is this one www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Range-5-Litre-Fast-Panel-Wipe-Degreaser-Paint-Automotive-Panelwipe-/382630405558?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
I find it very good but it's not purposely for WB but I've used it with WB and it's fine, I have another container that has alcohol 90% and 10% water which i use first after sanding etc , I also have a Upol 2002 slow panel wipe for times when it hot, i don't use much in the UK 😂
@@peteshobbies5383 Ah, from Mdabitec , got some things from them the other day.
Thanks for the link.Will try it out👍
Hi Pete great vid.
Have you seen the new devilbiss gpg? if you get one can you compare the pro light and gpg, so we can see if there’s much difference
Cheers
Hi Mate, yes i have seen it, it uses the old body of the Gti Pro and is devilbisses attempt at making an affordable general purpose gun by interchanging caps etc, the Pro lite would be considered a step up imo, if one comes along i will have a look but there are loads of different caps which will be what makes the difference 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 wasn’t sure if it was just the finish of the gun that made them a bit cheaper.
They stopped making the Gti Pro & the Pri Pro Lite so now only the Pro lite as its called is current, i guess it a good way to use the tooling to make the GPG, i know the primer version uses the PR10 cap
Normally if a gun uses twice as much air as you would expect it's because it's a true hvlp one.
Hi mate, yes, you would think so but they do make an HVLP version with a green cap, I dread to think how much that uses 🙄
@@peteshobbies5383 Holy moses. 😁 By the way, the hvlp cap i ordered for my 4400rp will not fit, the seller warned me for that this morning. He knew i have the older model (chrome plated, the newer ones have a matt silver finish). So i'm not sure it's because i have the older version, or that the aircaps aren't interchangable no matter which model you have...
@Henno I have the newer matte silver finish and the caps are all interchangeable so i suspect it because its an older model
@@peteshobbies5383 The Sagola MiniExtreme hvlp version uses 325 L/m, lol. 😁
Did you by the way know the ANI R160 is also available with a hvlp cap? It uses 180 L/m (versus 120 L/m for the normal hps version).
But i can't find it anywhere for sale, it's only on the ANI website.
Edit: Italian shops do have them.
Edit 2: i don't like the look of those newer models with that place for a digital airgauge, takes away the slickness the older r150's had.
@@peteshobbies5383 Pete, do you know if i could fit a HV5 aircap on my SRI Pro lite (with TE5 aircap) without the need of changing the nozzle&needle?