My Goodbye - EPIC: The Musical Animatic (FLASH WARNING)
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- My Goodbye - EPIC: The Musical Animatic (Flash Warning)
EPIC: The Musical by Jorge Rivera-Herrans / @JayHerrans /
Have no words- Brain.exe stopped working- Look at them fall like veewwwwwmmmm. I need to find keywords here to spread this video on CZcams. Did you see the thumbnail? Isn't it familiar~
And I'm paranoid I might missed to draw something nghbdhefj-
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What is EPIC: The Musical, you might ask. In a nutshell, EPIC is an adaptation of Homer's The Odyssey written by Jorge Rivera-Herrans and it was inspired by video games and animes.
More fully here:
www.epicthemusical.com/
And if it had caught your attention, definitely check out Jorge's TikTok and Instagram (and other) sites:
Jorge's TikTok: / jorgeherrans
Instagram: / jayherrans
The real life GODDESS who sings Athena is Teagan Early!
Teagan's Instagram: / teaganearle. .
TikTok: / teaganearley
Also, once you are on these platforms, would you check mine as well? You might find something you like :D
Instagram: / _mircsy_
TikTok: / _mircsy_
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Lyrics written by Jorge Rivera-Herrans
You were reckless, sentimental at best
That's not a teaching of mine
You've grown soft, your dead friends can attest
(Hey), put your emotions aside
You're a warrior, meant to lead the rest
I don't know where I went wrong
But I warned you and you failed the test
So now I'm gone
This way, you'll know what your place is
This way, you can't cross the line
This way, when all is over
You'll keep yours and I'll keep mine
This way, you won't disappoint me
This way, you won't waste my time
This way, I'll close the door
Consider this as my goodbye
I just like you, why should I be surprised?
Selfish and prideful and vain
Unlike you, every time someone dies
I'm left to deal with the strain
What's a title that a goddess could lend
If I'll never sleep at night?
I'll remind you I saw you as a friend
But now we're done
This way, you're out of my head now
This way, you won't plague my life
This way, when all is done
You're out of sight and out of mind
This way, you get what you wanted
This way, you can save your time
This way, you close the door
And have your damn goodbye
You're not looking for a mentor
I'm not looking for a friend
I mistook you for a general
What a waste of effort spent
At least I know what I'm fighting for
While you're fighting to be known
Since you claim you're so much wiser
Why's your life spent all alone?
You're alone
One day, you'll hear what I'm saying
One day, you might understand
One day, but not today
For after all you're (just a man)
This day, you sever your own head
This day, you cut the line
This day, you lost it all
Consider this as my goodbye
(Oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh)
Consider this as my goodbye
(Oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh)
This is my goodbye
(Oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh)
Consider this as my goodbye
(Oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh)
This is my goodbye
Off I go for now! Bye
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At 1:56 Odysseus does NOT punch Athena in the face xD
Yes, there's an apple again... I know-
Okay I think that's all I want to say
I loved it. But I have a question can you made the animation for ''Remenber them''?
Hi sorry to bother you but i wanted to ask is they red tint on Odysseus's blade to represent the hate/bloodlust left over from the battle with the cyclops or just from the realm of the mind? (or am i just overthinking it and its blood?)
@@katileonte6247 I’d definitely love to in the future :)
@@courier6429 it’s the reflection of the realm :D
Hey I looked and did the apple mean that Athena was showing she did indeed consider Odysseus a friend? Apples thrown generally was to loved ones supposedly if I’m right?
Cant believe no ones commented on how despite Athena claiming it was "her goodbye" in the end Odysseus is the one walking away, like shes so desperate to claim to be the one in control
OMG, THAT IS SO TRUE ACTUALLY HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THAT!?
Odysseus really said, "You can't break up with me, I'm breaking up with you."
bro stopped her the first time via throwing his sword at her wing
"You're not looking for a mentor
I'm not looking for a friend"
Dang, that really hit hard.
agreed
I love that Odysseus cries when he purposely misses stabbing Athena. As much anger as he’s holding inside. He can’t bring himself to do it. It also felt like the first time Athena has truly taken in how fragile a human heart is even in battle based on the look on her face
It really does feel like it was Athena’s first time realizing how fragile a human’s heart is and how much pent up anger, sadness, stress, and guilt Odysseus has.
Maybe we lost a powerful goddess BUT we have our lotus eater and that's enough
#Lotuseaterlivesmatter
I hope that lotus eater continues to show up in more animations (if further sagas are animated)
The lotus eaters are winions lol but yes they are better then Athena
He can relax now
lol yeah XD #Lotuseaterlivesmatter
0:24 OH NO SHE DIDN’T-
And there’s even a gap in the armor where ‘Polites’ guts were spilled. Considering this is a reconstruction, that means Athena is literally taunting Odysseus by showing him the dead version of the friend who called for mercy, *minutes after he died.*
Holy shit.
I love how Athena just resorts to throwing an apple for one of her attacks
I just love the image of whenever she's upset she chucks apples at people 😂😂
my thought on that is that the apple could be symbolic of the trojan war and what began Odysseus' journey, considering it was a conflict over a golden apple between the three goddesses, Athena, Hera and Aphrodite that sparked the trojan war to begin with
@@phantomzgames5233 oh yeah, definitely. Curse you, Paris!
@@housefone3808 it’s hilarious 😂😂😂
If you’re a shipper, it takes on another meaning as well. In Ancient Greece, throwing an apple for someone to catch was one way of proposal.
I love this interpretation. It shows Athena’s insecurities so strongly, screaming after Odysseus like he’s nothing without her (bc ofc, she’s a goddess!). Essentially proving Odysseus’s point which I LOVE seeing that Odysseus isnt the only one in the wrong in this song. The way he covers his ears is just the topping on the cake.
Also, the little lotus eater 🥺 it basically imprinted itself on him.
The one adorable little lotus eater is my favorite through-line in all these animatics I love that little guy
Ikr the lotus eater- poor little guy hitched a ride and has to endure the carnage of Polyphemus, but also Odysseus scooping the lotus eater up as he walked away from Athena 💕💕💕 it’s so cute,, he’s just adopted that lotus eater as a pet (I want to see the Lotus Eater meet the winions-)
@@nikkospelledlikethat8140 how is that cute the lotus eaters set them up
I do quite enjoy the back and forth shone by Athena and Odysseus but I would like to point out that Poseidon likely wouldn’t have been as big of an issue if this hadn’t happened.
@@joshuafrazier3904 and if he wants to talk about pridefulness then he should just go look at what he did right before
Honestly, I love that Athena and Odysseus' argument seems more personal in this video. They're both at fault. As much as Athena is seen as a God, her outburst, and her screaming back at Odysseus trying to get the last word in made her seem so much like a human. At the beginning of the video, Athena kind of starts the whole squabble and tries to end it by flying away, and I like how Odysseus got his word in. Kind of telling her "You can't just yell at me and leave, you said your peace now I get to say" mine sort of thing.
Considering in mythology the gods and goddess all have human emotions and faults to the nth level which is what makes them so outlandish. Zeus is a narcissist and a compulsive cheater, Ares had anger issues, Hera was jealous, and ect.
I think this is the first animatic I’ve seen where I feel so many different undertones compared to the lyrics. Odysseus screaming how she’s alone sounds like him screaming his pain about how alone HE feels. How alone SHE’S made him by raising him above the rest and how her abandoning him when he’s already in so much pain has made him SNAP. His shed tears fallen on her face both like a moment of epiphany for her but also like he’s cried the tears FOR HER. Like those are the tears she can’t shed.
Also the apple is damn smart. Because for all that Athena scolds and raves at Odysseus’ weak human emotions…her involvement and participation in the Trojan War, her absolutely vital partnership with Odysseus to end the war, came about because of her hurt pride at losing the Golden Apple. For her, THIS IS ALL HURT PRIDE. Because the war is over and Odysseus for real fucked up, but her focus is how badly this reflects on her. That the great Warrior of the Mind, a Hero of Troy that proved her own capabilities had now FAILED.
That at the beginning was a TEMPER TANTRUM.
BUT. (And oh wow, I loved that the previous animatics built up to this.) Odysseus really did LEARN from her and she underestimated just how much. Because as a warrior trained by her, he can actually anticipate her moves and know how to incapacitate her without truly hurting her. As her student, he’s gotten to the point where he can ACTUALLY MANIPULATE the Quick-Thought Dimension ITSELF! He’s proven, in some ways, her EQUAL. And that raises the stakes and tension in this song while also making it even more harrowing.
And so he and Athena fight and rage against each other until they crash and…Odysseus is on top but he’s the one that’s broken. And Athena is snapped out of her own temper to realize that her pride has maybe lost her that bright, vivacious, caring little shit she’s so fond of. She’s done her own part in killing that boy and making the monster.
And the most tragic thing is that they both know they’re wrong on some level. They both know they’ve crossed a line. But Odysseus is too lost in his grief and resentment and Athena is still too proud. So they’ve lost each other as a result.
EDIT: It’s just…so damn personal.
This is such a week thought out comment and I absolutely agree with everything you said.
Odisseus is really out of his mind. The many ways he simply tried to kill a goddess just in this song… definitely crazy
I think it's less that his trying to kill her and more like telling her the breakup is mutual
Lol he's only able to do that because she's favour him, if not he's already dead when he start to scream
@@licas3214 Still cool that he managed to outmatch her with pure sword play, Sure Athena could wipe the floor with him thanks to her powers, But the fact that her training managed to make a man eclipse a god in their expertise is no small feat both for Athena and for Odysseus.
Motivation and sheer determination is after all, Mankind's biggest strength and probably why Athena had such high hopes for Odysseus, To see him achieve that and throw it away, anyway, because of the same human element that made him so remarkable makes Athena mad less because of the mentality, As Athena herself is not above it, But more because he's not willing to go through with it despite the potential because of what it means.
Athena thinks it's lack of will and grit, Which is why she's so disappointed, But with Odysseus willing to show he's willing to fight a goddess not because of glory but to show a friend what he really has on his mind.
Causing Athena to breakdown, Truly breakdown, To see even the greatest potential is not motivated by pride or glory but by the memories and love of his family, Blood related or not. She gets it, But refuses to admit it because emotions are not efficient, They get in the way of any plan.
It's in every shape and form against her nature to feel and when she does what else she can do but rage, Where humans would move on.
@@user-so6ps4pb6yBeautifully said.
Human supremacy
Someone made a comment on this point, but I really wanted to add my two cents to it. Of the different versions I've seen of this, so far they've had Athena depicted as unwavering for the most part. Especially at the last part, I see others showing how she's repeating, "This is my goodbye" as though it's more her emphasizing how badly he's messed up before she goes. In this one, it's very much like she's trying to get him to turn around and apologize, fall on his knees and plead for her forgiveness, using images of them being together when he was younger and finally at 2:50 she's realizing that he's NOT taking it and blocking her out, that pause, that look on her face of surprise, then finally the frustrated clench of her teeth and more screaming out of anger like a, "No! This is MY goodbye! Not yours! I'M the one leaving!"
This is by far my favorite interpretation of this scene by far. The others are incredible! But this one sings to me on a spiritual level.
Well I'll be damned, you've got a point 😮
Yeah. In love the fact she seems distressed from their parting but neither is willing to apologize or make up. This hurt both of them in different ways. This relationship has been years in making. Though she wasnt looking for a friend and him a mentor they cant deny or admit they did become both. I think Athena folly was she saw Odysseus as a tool to use as she saw fit but as she says "hes just a man" flawed and all. He could never. Turn off all his emotions and act with cold logic. He's human and that was something Athena could never understand. For being goddess of wisdom she was very short sighted. Loved the line "what good is a title that goddess could lend if I'll never sleep at night" he's affected by every choice he makes, every life lost, every sacrifice made and that wont change.
Hmmm I disagree that she MADE those images appear. Thats way too manipulative and douchey. I interpret it as all being in Ody’s head; like as they seperate, it’s more of a metaphorical representation of Ody reflecting on their history together; as opposed to some spell she casted.
@@crimsonmaverick8237 its a greek god that isnt Hades. Very in character
@@ourlordandsaviorsquirtle3278 if that’s how you wanna see it- I thought she took a liking to him in their relationship so I doubt she’d stoop to this manner of guilt tripping.
Him offering his hand at Athena after he basically attempted to kill her and then simply walking away… now I know why you had so many problems Odi, remember she’s a goddess!
This is the same dude who told his name to Polyphemus.
'Smartest' of the Greece. Is a low-bar when consider how 'smart' the average Greek heroes are.
@@fbiuzz The bar is in Tartarus :D
@@fbiuzz He is way smarter than others, but his hubris is pretty much a really big flaw. This is his fatal flaw.
2:10 - 2:23 is just so beautiful. The way you never explicitly show Athena crying and yet her grief is so clearly depicted with Odysseus' tears and the sword covering her eyes is incredible.
I know this is a super serious fight but the image of Athena just strait up chucking an apple at him made me cackle 🤣
i believe its symbolic to what began the trojan war
That but the apple being tossed to someone has a lot of meaning in Ancient Greek culture usually and eternal bond usually coming to marriage but not always the case it’s more her offering that bond and him knocking that away Atleast that’s my interpretation based of prior knowledge of the culture
One thing that I'd been trying to visualize that you did really well is physicalizing the reasons why Athena or Odysseus don't just pick up and leave. She should, after her first chorus, theoretically have had the last word and be out of there, but _he's_ got something he needs to say which stops her. Then later, she keeps calling after him because she wants so desperately to have control over the situation. I thought you did that so well. Loved it
I personally imagined that she vanishes, and he just keeps talking to thin air, because he knows her well enough to know that she'll stay while invisible, listen, and maybe even reappear to throw a retort, which she does. I like this way as well
HOLY SHIT GOD THIS WAS FUCKING INCREDIBLE Instead of just being a usual argument that stemmed from just yelling each other, this was genuine fight between a goddess and a man who used to be friends and now end their friendship in a squabble, also I love that you made Athena slightly turn into Polities in the beginning, the Lotus Eater looking sadly at Athena and then we finally get to see Odysseus rock a headband that supposed belonged to his dear friend.
IKR!! the Athena to Polites moment !! the apple!! Owl Athena pulling at Odysseus- the whole animation is so emotionally charged
@@tumblingartist The Athena to Polites moment was a huge gut punch and amazing. And I think it's impressive that there's this underlying feeling that as angry as they are with each other, they don't really want to hurt one another. Athena's a goddess. If she wanted to, she could probably obliterate Odysseus easily. And he had every chance to strike her down with his sword, but he didn't. But they're both "warriors of the mind" so of course they're going to end up using violence while struggling with their emotions. It's just soooo goood.
@@NightspellweaverYES EXACTLY!! They’re angry, but also very hurt, and they can’t bring themselves to *truly* harm the other despite it
I love how viscerally messy the Athena/Odysseus breakup is here. it really helps sell the reason they're going at it so hard and so angrily is because they *did* have a close friendship but it got smashed as hard as Odysseus's men.
Love how you made athena scream after Odysseus... as if trying to get him change his mind and apologize and come back... and the ending flash of the owl.. just wow. Bravo!! You should become the official animator for the musical and get payed because this is just too jaw dropping and i don't have words how in awe i am from your interpretation of the songs (i never read the book so your animation helped me understand the visual of the songs more)
Not to mention the bloodied feather on the floor as Odysseus turns and walks away-
Lol trying to get him change his mind, nope, she's the one who decided to end the relationship, even if he changed his mind and apologize the relationship will still end
@licas3214 Exactly, by making it mutual, Odi took Athena's control of the situation away, making him regret that would be giving that power back.
Tha little lotus eater's face when he picks it up "man.... I've seen some shit. 😮"
I’m really loving the trend of Athena being so much taller than Odyssey since it highlights how ready he is to just throw hands. And what a cool interpretation of the song with it feeling like a more mutual breakup of the iconic duo.
My favorite part is when he turns to walk away from Athena and just *Le Scoops* the little Lotus eater like: come on little one, we leave the deranged Aunty alone now
😂😂😂
I love how in Odysseus's POV, when he points the sword at Athena, when the line "Whats a title that a goddess can lend" plays, it focuses on Athena, but when the line "If I'll never sleep at night" plays, it focuses on Odysseus's reflection, making the 2 lines represent eachother even more. It really makes you think about Odysseus's pain and regret.
1:18 Love how it looks like he offers a hand to help her up, but not fully.
Also those visions of kid Odysseus HURT.
Never have I been more terrified of the power of an angry god. A haunting picture of the fury Athena can unleash, these animatics never fail to give me chills. I do like how Odysseus’ humanity literally breaks through the barrier of divinity as he’s able to beat her in combat, a slight call back to the fight we saw in “Warrior of the Mind”. Underneath it all I think Odysseus was right and we see that almost childish ignorance of perspective that Athena has since she is so removed from the hearts of mortals. Unable to truly process her frustration she lashes out at him like a pet that isn’t listening. The arc these characters follow is beautifully captured, so heartbreaking and full of emotion. Always love watching these videos, truly a master of storytelling!!
this athena design is awesome! i like that most artists draw the difference between the gods and odysseus by making them bigger but giving her wings and talons really set her apart! she's not just a tall lady she's the embodiment of wisdom!
So, this thing takes place in Odysseus' head, more or less, given that Jorge describes Quick Thought as being entire mental conversations happening in an instant, if I remember correctly.
And to me that just makes this whole animatic more impactful. The verbal lashing out between the two of them literally expresses itself as a brawl - Athena's shouts creating a wind, clawing and tearing at him in owl form, and then when she tries to fly away, _then_ Odysseus can return that favour, literally throwing his sword out to hit her. Also, a mental image of Odysseus being able to physically harm a mental image of Athena, a literal goddess, seems a little bit more realistic than him managing the actual thing :P
Odysseus taking off his bracers, the ones from your previous animatic, and then stomping on them - if Athena wants to wash her hands of him, then he's more than willing to do the same, and that includes refusing her gifts.
Also, the only times when Athena actually shows any emotion but anger and disappointment? 1:00 she looks shocked when he hits her with the sword, which could be surprise at the fact that he, as a mortal, _dares_ to speak back or that it actually works. 1:20, when Odysseus' back is physically turned to her, she looks... sad? Ashamed? And 2:10, when even _then_ as he's poised to take the 'killing blow' as it were, his sword is turned aside. Even against _Athena_ who is berating him for not making that decision, right now, in this moment, Odysseus chooses mercy. He cries. And she just looks... stunned.
I love this one, so much.
Well he is a aspect of the eternal champion wounding gods makes sense fir him
IKR- this animation is so emotionally charged and you can practically FEEL their emotions though out every part of this
@@wolfsbanealphas617 ehhh, mortals never really have INJURED gods without divine intervention itself. The only times off the top of my head is Diomedes and Ares (in which Athena does all the work for Diomedes), or Heracles and Thanatos. With the latter, Heracles never _hurt_ Thanatos, he just wrestled him until Thanatos was too tired to bother. There was also the gigantomachy, but I believe Heracles was a god by that point (and if he wasn't, he was still being helped by gods and killing giants, which themselves are not fully fledged gods).
@@blake3631didn't that sysiphus guy trap Thanatos in a chest or something? Maybe it wasn't an actual fight but that's still pretty damn impressive
@@elfilin-to6dh He uses chains that reduced a god's divinity and strength, then put him into a chest.
This is a damn fresh take on the matter y'know! Many do just a verbal fight,which is completely okay,but seeing Odysseus and Athena actually fight physically? Being filled with so much raw emotion as each feel betrayed by the other?? Athena feeling hurt when Odysseus makes his parture official and doesn't bother to look or listen at her when she declares her goodbye for real???? THAT'S SOME DAMN GOOD STUFF!! And gosh her crossing the line showing his fallen comrades,his fallen _friend_ so much good stuff in a single animatic
And I hope the little Lotus Eater sticks around with Odysseus forever cause the guy needs it
Jesus this was amazing. I love the interpretation of Athena's Goodbyes. It's almost as though she's trying to win him back like "I'm really leaving this time!!! You'll be sorry! NO SERIOUSLY I'M LEAVING". She was so insecure at the end without him. The fact that he landed blows on her at all shows that she STILL underestimated him and didn't see him as a threat. Her pride was definitely hurt. I love how different people interpret different emotions for the characters and yours is hands down my absolute favorite!
The wings behind him at 2:26 giving the visage of Hermes, his next 'mentor' is so neat
Best animatic possible for this song, hands down! You went for the challenge of bringing in action to the conversation and its incredible - Odysseus actively trying to break theough the realm, Athena finishing the job - basically "You can't break up with me, I'm breaking up with you!" Ugh absolute perfection
2:42 I absolutely love that in Athena’s voice she praying (can goddesses pray?😂) that he’ll change his mind and come back. Kinda like saying “I’ll do it later, I’ll do it tomorrow, I’ll wait till next week” she trying to convince him (or herself) to come back or that he’s not coming back.
2:54 I know it’s a animatic but can anyone hear that at the end where she says this is my good bye lines, it’s sounds like she is really rethinking her words? Like I know he was throwing up all her insecurities but does anyone hear that she is actually really heartbroken about having to leave him alone? Because you can hear it in her voice that this is not the path she wants to go down. Like in the beginning she was burning all her fire but now she is burnout and is just realizing that she lost her warrior, her friend that means everything to her.
It very much could be the accompanying visuals more then the singing, but yes I do think I hear the regret.
Athena taking on the form of Polites that just hurt😭💔
Hell this entire video hurts my heart and the poor Lotus eater, I'm glad Odyseuss didn't leave him there 😭😭😭💔💔💔💔
I'm always excited when you post a new animation for Epic, they're all so good. Man but Survive and My Goodbye just break my heart so bad. Amazing job
I don't think it totally lines up with the song, but I think making the two of them straight up brawl is awesome. What I love the most is turning Athena's last verse into a desperate attempt to get Odysseus's attention. I struggled for a while trying to figure out that last verse's intentions, originally I thought it sounded like the song was framing Athena as "in the right". The only other animatic I saw had Odysseus reaching out to her at that part of the song. I never thought of it being the other way around, but it fits so well. Mad props to you.
I love this so much! This interpretation is how i imagined a Goddess would react. Pissed, sad and a teeny bit desperate. I mean Athena, a Goddess, chose and promised that this mortal would be like them and would be able to push his mortality/humanity away. But instead chose wrong and made to be a fool in the eyes of her fellow Gods/Goddess' because of a human. That in itself should have been a death sentence for Odysseus.
I hear this song and I just pictured a heated argument between two colleagues. You imagined a confrontation worthy of the name EPIC THE MUSICAL! Holy shit that was awesome. This is also the first time that I've heard this song and actually sided with Odysseus. Because we all know letting that cyclops live will end up being one of his greatest mistakes. But in this scene Athena is so callous when berating him. Even summoning the image of his dead best friend to point out his errors. Great animatic and I can't wait to see your next one.
0:23 oh That's just low, Athena
GODS I love your Athena design. She looks so much more human than most depictions of her. And especially with all the emotion she’s showing here, it’s just brilliant
gorgeous. Also, at like 2:51, I LOVE how the hair left over from the cut of the sword looks like feathers
me: sobbing omgomg
2:30
me: *still sobbing* WINiON (voice cracking sobbing screech)
How do achieve maximum pain in “calm” panels? I thought the worst was past us (angry betrayal, the ruthless fight between them like yo I didn’t think they would resort to such violence with each other 😭) BUT THEN YOU LEFT THAT BLOODIED FEATHER WITH THOSE FOOTSTEPS
Like bro I already thought I was in for a culinary experience that was way more than I could ever expect (like getting some food and it turning out to be so good you’re laying there DAZED because you’ve just been introduced to a whole new world of flavour and brain just cannot compute because it is so far out of your usual fare) and then you finish of with a scene that will haunt me forever. Just wow.
It’s like you have my heart and casually left me another stab as you went on your way like how could you? 😭
There are just so many layers to unpack here and I am stunned that you fleshed out their characters so well and portrayed it so effectively. There’s a storm of emotion - mostly the past, the words and violence they are using to hurt each other in the present, and the loss and grief over what they saw in each other (the future they hoped for). Your characterisation of them sends me shivers because you really went in and had them claw out everything they had in their complicated relationship and WHY this had to fall apart here and now, in this very scene, in the face of what Odysseus had just done and has endured.
And then there’s the execution and craft in the art itself.
My god
I cannot even begin to describe how genius the imagery was and everything was precisely honed to strike a point - a very painful point. You almost scare me with how well you account for the audience’s perception
Like I was shocked that Odysseus would purposely aim for Athena’s wing, then she went for his neck, then their wrestling - every part was soaked in their pain. I don’t know what it is that gives me the shock factor that these two would actually go through those lengths. I’m used to seeing violence on screen - especially fiction - but these two people who care so much about each other, who give such heavy weight to what they think is important, who you portrayed as sparring - for training towards their dreams, a shared activity that shows how he’s grown under her tutelage, and probably something of a love language between master and student as wit and combat is their common ground - are now seeking outright HARM to the other from their ANGER AND HATRED. It is also their way of telling the other that their views are right - the only way the other would take their point.
(I got sidetracked I’m so sorry)
Like dude, you hit me with all that, make me feel something for violence along with the shock (SHE THREW AN APPLE AT HIM) with just the kind of brutality they were inflicting each other (the way it was reduced to the raw and angry scruffle after she pounced at him, these two greatest minds getting at it like this), and then when I think that the coast was clear you gave that bloodied feather.
And the expressions.
THE EXPRESSIONS
There is so much to convey because of the storm inside their hearts and minds and you presented it all with a fine-tuned knife. You can excellently portray a wide array of emotions, and you carefully choose what and where to apply it for maximum effect. My personal favourite is after Odysseus stabs his sword beside Athena’s face, cutting off a lot of her hair. I just cannot stop thinking about how you chose to show the frame from an angle that has the sword cover Athena’s eyes and we have to watch her lips to read her - the soft sadness to wretched rage. Like I’m speechless that you also knew that the cards in your arsenal as an animator is what you show and how - but also what you DON’T SHOW. That I will never see Athena’s full expression there is more haunting than actually seeing it because it is her MOST vulnerable moment. Does anyone really know how a person looks or feels when you’ve been stripped bare and stabbed like that? By the person you felt this close to? The one you had hopes and dreams for? And EPIC’s choice that Athena’s number 1 motivation is to “create the greatest warrior” (and how she threw her heart in it no matter how she espouses the cold, efficient rationality herself. In her efforts to make the greatest mind she also left someone with the greatest capacity to break her heart). She raised that kid and look where they are.
(Also ODYSSEUS’S TEARS FALLING ON ATHENA’S FACE MAKE ME WANT TO TEAR MY SKIN OFF MY BACK WHAT THE HELL HOW DO YOU EVEN-)
(SHIT THAT PART WHERE YOU ZOOM INTO EACH OF THEIR EYES AND WHAT SHE FORCED HIM TO SEE/WHAT THEY THOUGHT/SAW)
(THE ARM BRACES ARRGHHHHHH)
(HIS REFLECTION WHEN HE POINTED THE SWORD AT HER)
(HOW COULD I FORGET THE POETRY OF HER HARASSING HIM IN HER OWL FORM AND FLYING AWAY BEFORE HE THROWS A KNIFE THROUGH HER WING SO SHE DOESN’T GET TO BE SO HIGH AND MIGHT, SHE SHOULDN’T LOOK DOWN ON HIM WHEN HE CAN BRING HER DOWN TO HIS LEVEL.)
(HE TRIED TO ESCAPE HER QUICK TIME 😭, DUDE REALLY FOUGHT AGAINST A GOD’S POWER AND BETWEEN HIS WITS AND HER NOT HAVING A GREAT TIME HE AT LEAST BROKE ONE WALL)
(It’s his “good riddance” but it pains him so much and Athena feels so scorned that she does not leave him in peace / sends him one last wave to torment him before disappearing entirely.)
(Please continue your amazing work! ❤)
(So it turns out I spent over an hour writing all this because I had so much to say 😅)
Dude, holy cow, thank you for taking the time to write all this!! This unfolded information of my art even for me
Oh don’t mention it! Whenever possible, I want to make sure artists know how much I appreciate their art and I desperately did not want you to go without knowing what you made me experience. It’s luck on my part that I really read into your animatic. For most of the year my brain is too zombified from work to interpret any art so I’m glad my December lucidity caught onto your work. Your art knocked the wind out of me and I wasn’t going to leave without making sure you got to know how thankful I am to you for the efforts you put in and for sharing it for all of us internet strangers to watch.
Also are you telling me that some of this was COINCIDENCE? Otherwise you might have unconsciously gravitated towards decisions that built on (and thus drove a knife further into my gut) what you laid out in Warrior of the Mind? Because the revisited themes and imagery (in a chillingly different tone and intention), coupled with how all that they are feeling and thinking is boiling over the surface and manifesting in every shared language and hopes they had for each other just makes it a critical hit that took EVERYTHING they had between them to fuel the ugliest break up I have ever seen. Do you realise how you have made art of the COMPLETE severance of their bond? They burned their bridges and hit the other where it hurts because they WANTED to hurt them while aggrieved by how they can’t keep the other in their life anymore. They took everything they had - past, present, future - and scalded the other because this is where they will end this in the worst way possible since the other has repairably wronged them.
You brought all this to the surface and I spent that night lying there feeling like I’ve been drained of 10 years worth of emotions after I had to sit through and experience everything that went on between those two in this song. I thought I had gone through a marathon because of how many emotions and thoughts I had caught from them. That wasn’t intentional?!? Bro how is this not even your final form, do I need to brace myself for the day I go catatonic from watching another one of your works?! 😭 (this is all positive, I just can’t believe that there’s a chance you would top this and put me through even more of a ferocious whirlwind of an experience like I’m not ready! I’m still recovering from this animatic!)
Can we appreciate the symbolism of 2:15. It looks from the side profile as though the sword is lodged in her head. And with Athena being the goddess of wisdom, it feels symbolic of Odysseus striking her out of his mind and cutting out her wisdom.
The whole reflection in the sword shot & the shot during the pause…those two are pure masterpieces of conveying emotion and also with giving us a sense of where Odysseus’s head is at. Literally perfect, Mirscy.
Okay I like the concept that Ody starts to carry a memento of his men after each death, and by the end he has different ones to mark Polites, Eurylochus, Calypso lmao...
This just emphasizes the insanity of how he’s doing this to a literal goddess
he's too much of a badass but also ssstooooopidddd xD /j
"The one who says goodbye the most is the one who wants to leave the least "
P.D: I loved the fight between Ulysses and Athena
It’s so weird seeing a version of this song where Athena bodies Odysseus with her power. Hell, if anything, Ody did pretty well for himself. Props!😊
I love how you portray the deities in ways that present them as more than humans with something extra.
I also like this way you present the goodbye. Instead of Odysseus reaching out to her, it's her who does it, her last verses getting louder and more desperate with each cry. I prefer this version, because I think it makes more sense, and shows us how deeply Odysseus actually affected her and her heart.
At 0:23 where Athena shows his dead freind is so impactful. As a history and mythology explorer ,he cared very much for his freind and it is believe that once he lost this freind ( I can’t spell it correctly) things went downhill for him and the crew. He didn’t lose much during the war but this was his breaking point. So sad. Thank you this animatic was incredible maybe it might be my favorite.
Friend. The I and the E swich.
I seriously can’t fathom how AMAZING this animatic is, like what the HECK 🤩🤯 Them not just having your usual heated argument but actual fighting and landing hits on each other, Odysseus having the GUTS to try and take a stab at a goddess, and that shot where Athena was lying on the ground and Odysseus’ tears falling onto her face, oh gods I just can’t 🥵 Seriously, thank you for supplying us starving fans with sustenance, you have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for this animatic
Love the actually showing of the conflict between Odyssey’s “friendship” mindset against Athena’s “Mentorship” mindset
Can’t wait to see how the EPIC MUSICAL progresses… *cough *cough George 🙄😁
(His name's Jorge, pronounced kinda like Hor-hey, but I do agree. Give us more, Jorge!)
Lol I know… it’s just autocorrect, but yes I still accidentally spell it that way 😅
This was such a cool interpretation! Especially with the subversion of making Athena a feral owl lady instead of the reserved tactician she's usually depicted as
I love how it was an actual battle of wills between them in Odysseus' mind as the argue, that was really cool!
I’m sorry I love the addition of Athena throwing the apple of Discourse. As a Greek that made me smile
I love how angry they are at each other in this. Your take on this universe is my favorite of all the Epic animatic I've seen so far.
what i love is the disconection. despite being so wise, athena is disconnected to the connections humans make. she calls oddyseus a fool for being sentimental. for being reckless after the loss of his friends. yet, it's a very human thing. it's a normal thing to do. yet she doesn't see it.
she doesn't understand, odyseuss saw her as his friend. not just a teacher, but his friend.
kinda reminds me of a current project i'm working on. i am making a book of a character who is a God.
It's on the concept of how a god can't understand mortals. so, he observes the universe, hoping to finish his "masterpiece". a project that allows someone to understand and learn of the universe. he's got all the scientific and physical parts down. yet, he can't understand the major pieces. mortals.
he lacks understanding of mortals. how they live their lives. how they can live such fulfilling lives in such a short time. he fails to understand the minds of mortals.
so, he crafts a mortal form to explore a world of his choosing. it just os happens, to be earth. cause he wants to understand the mortals, and what better way than to become them.
Bruh, I'm sad now.
Also, the apple is a nice touch, because I think it represents the Apple of Discord, which is one of the main reasons the Trojan War began, which was why Odysseus left Ithaca in the first place, which also means it is why they fought Polyphemus in the first place as well.
Yeah i noticed that and i think it is just.. mwah *chefs kiss* the symbolism (if it was intended) is amazing
Athena repeatedly screaming that this would be her goodbye waiting for Odysseus to return, but him covering his ears and avoiding seeing the memories of that friendship breaks me all down
im so fucking inlove with the way we know that at some point in both their lifetimes they did genuinely care and consider each other as friends, even Athena who we know is stoic and straight to the point. their falling out was painful because we know that they expected better from each other
Okay, i havent found a single acknowledgement of this and i personally wanted to say it but how you portrayed the singing through their movements and the raw emotional burst each side is having in this exchange is so powerful. The rasp att the end is so wonderful fitted with the distance between the two as if Athena was straining to get her voice heard. Just spmething i liked and thought to be spoken even 2 months late.
This is absolutely amazing. The dynamics, the posing, the way that every second was building up the tension that was present throughout the fight. It was absolutely astonishing. And Athena using Polites for the part starting with "Put your emotions aside"? ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT.
I love how his tears are hers.
This was far more violent and somber than the other animatics I have seen for this song, and while there were some parts that felt odd (why break through a barrier, were they in a force field?), the animation style, execution, and action were astonishing and that look at 2:12 and the rage and sadness on Odysseus's face prior to that were the best I have seen. I also love how this has more action and movement to it, the other animatics mostly have the two talking and circling/studying each other, but this actually has them fight in a menacing way that also communicates their sadness. Love it!
My interpretation is the battle is happening in his head. Him breaking out of the force-field is him symbolically leaving her influence/breaking out of her arena. Athena simultaneously going through conflicting "no, I'm kicking you out/but don't leave" type of emotions
Odysseus, dearest, let's not threaten a goddess okay ? You already have enough problems as it is
“You’re a warrior, mentally distressed”
I CANT UNHEAR IT
I really like how this animatic, unlike most others, shows them physically fighting, and also shows their history. Well done!
I love this so much😭✋️ this is without a doubt my favorite "my goodbye" animation. You're art style is so beautiful and i love how you draw Athena: after the fight she looks so human and shocked when Odysseus starts crying, it's like she didn't expected it and for a second her anger disappered just to come back as soon as Odyesseus got up
I LOVE ALL YOUR WORKS SO MUCH FJDKAKALLA
Also sorry if i made some mistakes but english is not my first language
I really hope the little lotus eater buddy gets to make it back home to Ithaca too
I love that despite how most would believe it unlikely to have a physical fight with a goddess, you chose to interpret and animate this song perfectly and brutally accurate to how much they’re hurting each other with their words 😢😭
0:39 I laughed so hard
A goddess, who’s main thing is wisdom in war’s last resort is chucking an apple at Ody 😂
I love that he fights back
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Wow! First time I’ve seen Odysseus go on the offensive on Athena. Boy has some brass balls
I love how you portrayed their emotions so strongly, Athena watched him grow up, he had her by his side most of his life, so that moment was sooo intense and I love that it can be seen and felt in your animation
that was actually crazy
but also: odysseus threw a SWORD AT HER??? buddy, you're lucky all she did was yell at you
Odysseus is a short badass LMAO
I mean he knew it wouldn't do shit, the whole conversation/fight is imaginary. It's more a show of defiance than anything else.
As somebody who is new to this whole musical, I genuinely thought this was the original. This is so professionally made that before considering the fact that this was fan made, I thought to myself that the ones I had been watching previously were actually the fan made ones. And that these were the REAL original ones! That just goes to show how well done it is. My favorite thing is the way you did Athena though! I can’t wait to see you do others
You don’t understand how obsessed I am with your artwork. It is so wonderful! The emotions and poses! Everything! Stunning, breathtaking, brilliant, etc. Your characterization and design of Athena is just *chef’s kiss* THE WINGS AND HER OWL FORM. Ugh, amazing! One of my favorites designs of her by far. Also, the winions are adorable! And I love how Odysseus throws his sword, managing to actually cut Athena’s wing, like, “Hey! It’s my turn to yell!” I had to stop this video so many times to just get up and pace around my room to keep from exploding from pure adoration. Keep up the amazing work!
This probably has the most ACTION and EMOTION of any animatic I have ever seen (Which are a lot btw). The animation is so dynamic and captures the essence of the lyrics beautifully. What a masterpiece
Honestly incredible one of the best musical animations on CZcams in general. One detail I like was how Athena yells out to Odysseus at the end but doesn’t get a response so yells out more aggressively show how much she fears being alone and ignored. Idk if this wasn’t what you were going for but that’s how I interpreted it at least.
Okay, but YOU DREW ATHENA SO BEAUTIFULLY. Ngl I'm a certified simp over her design, and the attention to detail, I want her to step on me I would say thank you. Honestly you're probably my favorite animatic peep u,w,u
It is so amazing what you do with these because this is the first time listening after 100s of listens that I sided with Odysseus. You made Athena so cruel and cross the line of chastising him for his mistake so much that I felt incredibly bad for him! Odysseus is very flawed, but like this musical is trying to convey in its themes, he is like everyone else just a human at the end of the day. This was beautiful.
I love how when she's yelling "this is my goodbye!" it looks like she's hoping he'll turn around and come back to her
And how he still has the lotus eater
Holy shit this is absolutely AMAZING!!! I don't even have the words to fully describe how awesome this is! All the imagery is just stellar, the fact that it's like a full on fight between them and the way its present brings a whole new weight to the interaction. Seeing Athena's mix of reactions at both what Odysseus says and does is just amazing! Her expression when she turns back into a person after see cuts her wing as an owl and the later when he acts like he's about to stab her only to have the blade land next to her head just fit the tone and mood set throughout the whole thing perfectly! The way he straight up uses his sword to try and break through the barrier and free himself from her hold on his mind. Stripping off the braces with her symbols as he tries to break free of her. All the emotion in their expression really shows just how much it all hurt them both. The references to the past animatics/songs also added a whole nother level of depth to it all! Really you did an amazing job on this, every bit felt so perfect to me.❤❤❤
There are so many thing to talk about this goddammit it seems like you beat your limits every single post! the direction is so different from any other interpretation! it is so much more aggressive, and you used this corporeal elements to aggravate the emotional damage! The fact that this is so physical while also being so abstract is amazing! Your videos are so well drawn and so creative that it is hard to describe how complexe they are. Loved to see the memories between them as parallels to your previous works.
I love how Ody had a lot of chances of actually causing damage, but on average he defended himself, and although he threw his sword (at the same time he made his point and tackled into Athena's biggest insecurity, her ego, Every confrontation after this was purely defensive.
it is so interesting how this fight was both physical and abstract, the elements like Athena transforming into Polites and throwing the apple drawling a parallel to Open Arms was a lot more hurtful than any blow could ever be. Ody actually "breaking the barrier" that unites these two while also freeing himself from the one physical representation of Athena, his bracelets, are completely heartbreaking, creating these moments of physical distance on this imaginary world was an amazing concept. And I have never realized, Odysseus left her talking to herself on the final minutes. Shouting to the sky while he kept going. And silence hurts more than any poor company ever will.
I love how the hair he cut off in the fight stays cut off with close-up, wonderful attention to detail!!
I started to hate this song a month ago because it hits so close to an argument I had with a friend which eventually ended our friendship. But thanks to your animation it's back to be wonderful instead of depressing. Kudos to you!
Btw I love how much this feels like a payoff after your other vids like Open Arms and Warrior of the Mind.
The combat in this animatic is a great way to show that they’re just trying anything they can to hurt the other because they’re hurting themselves.
I love the violence and passion in this. A skilled physical battle would be the one thing that Athena would respect. Odysseus wanted her to understand and respect his decision to spare Polyphemus, and to know it wasn't out of fear or weakness. He is not a weak man. He was trained by her and he's equal in skill with her, if not moreso since he's able to get a few good hits in and actually pins her. The student surpassing the master so to speak. But this rebellious attitude really hurt Athena's pride and she cut off ties with him to save her own ego.
I wonder if in the first chorus she only meant to say she wouldn't help him face the consequences of naming himself to Polyphemus, but by the end the two of them have burned down everything they had built and it was a permanent goodbye.
This feel like a good representation of how man and god will never truly mix, will never truly be able to give the other exactly what they need. And I love how you conveyed that Odysseus finally, clearly saw that his god isn't infallible and will never be able to understand the value of what she and all those like her were urging him to toss aside; humanity. The one thing gods will never taste, never understand, never be able to account for, and the one thing that draws them to mankind in the first place. And it feels like she's as startled by the tears falling on her face as she is by being bested by a mortal. Confused and shaken for a just a moment before the wrath of a spurned god returns
This really hurts because I think Athena truly cared for him. I'm happy she decided to help him towards the end
It hurts even more when Odysseus says you're alone, because it's not only a call-out of Athena, but the fact that now their relationship is over, Odysseus is alone as well. He really doesn't have a lot of people he cares about that are on his quest home with him (who haven't already died) makes me wish they never fought
This is very well done. I can feel the emotions in this. From the music to the images that emphasise the emotional output. One can just feel the pain of these two cutting ties. The anger, frustration and disappointment that both have for each other. Very well done.
THE AUDACITY!!!! He threw his sword at Athena! Man… you really have no fear of the gods 😅
He is a aspect of the eternal champion so attacking gods without fear comes with the job
I mean, if you read the Odyssey he spends it getting fucked by the gods at almost every turn.
This is the most intense version of this song I have ever seen. Seriously! He cut Athena while she was flying away. That’s insane.
I can't get over how much I LOVE your Athena design. The Owl headpiece, the owl/bird-ness of her. If just works so well!
MASTERPIECE😍😍😍😍😍 No words to discribe, you're so talented, thank you for this animation🥰🤗🤯🥹👏👏👏
Don't know what to focus on more. Amazing song or amazing animation
2:39 Ok now that’s just devastating ;-; all the memories they shared whisking by and then vanishing for the last time.
Gorgeous work as always and I love how much emotion you manage to squeeze into every little action each of them does. (also gotta love that he is taking the lotus eater with him small happiness amidst the sad)
This is absolutely incredible, this had me in tears. It shows the insecurities of the pair, and how totally different they are. The argument they had shows that they both have extremely different perspectives. Both believe they're right, and that leaves them in a complete mess. Their strength, being stubborn, being leaders, and having a way with words, is also their biggest weakness.
I really, really love this. You have a gift for animation. Keep up the amazing and inspiring work!