Scientology: TR demo
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- This is a demonstration of the basic drills done by Scientologists when joining the group. It shows how Scientologists are trained to command people and be commanded themselves. It gives an idea how the indoctrination process begins.
Stacy Brooks, the lady in this video, left the cult and ran the Lisa McPhereson Trust. She is a strong critic of the cult now.
She states that at the beginning of the video. She was out when this was filmed.
I’m glad she’s out.
Got it.
Hi everyone, this is for the people that want to watch all of the TTRs with timestamps
3:00 TTR 0 (sitting and staring)
6:00 TTR 0 Bullbait (distracting)
8:57 TR1 (Dear Alice, reading)
11:40 TR2 (Acknowledgement)
16:16 TR3 (Repeating Questions)
20:38 TR4 (Preclear Originations)
23:16 END
Really appreciate your listing these brother
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@@hadrakir4098 😂🤣😂
Stay a bit and find some SPTV
Wish me luck. Lol
This is exactly how they train you. It maybe doesn't look so bad and could have some benefit, but when you do it for hundred's of hours and days with every course you take, it becomes a controlling factor and can change your life for the worse.
And when hey are screaming at you non-stop, cursing and humiliating you in some cases sexually humiliating you this training becomes even worse!
I see the value it has in sales to stay calm
@Neri Matrixx I wouldn't call the person who saw usefulness in it, a moron. It is psichologically proven that if you gradually expose yourself to something, than after a while it gets more tolerable. Being calm and asserting yourself when they are distractions, is actually good in sales and management. Not saying it should be used to brainwash and manipulate
Then Tom Cruise needs more "training!" He is the furthest thing from "calm" that I have ever seen.
Just ask Matt Lauer or Oprah Winfrey how "calm" Tom Cruise is! 😮
@@benjaminhawthorne1969 you don’t get out much!
*Technique used in POW camps since 1917*
You guys demoed these so well I felt I was watching the TR 4 Tech Training Film. 😅
my dad was a chicago cop for 32 years (15 as a vice detective), and he always said "repetition is the best way of wearing someone down".
read about the East German Stasi (staatssicherheitsdienst, or SSD, the secret police) interrogation tactics--they loved using repetition, keeping suspects in a wooden chair for up to 24 hours asking very polite questions over and over again until the person eventually cracked...often confessing things they weren't even guilty of, just to make it stop.
repetitive questioning or making someone do repetitive actions is a form of torture. it's mentally abusive.
also, in WW2 the japanese loved making POWs stand totally still for up to 24 hours. also a form of torture. not so different from making someone sit totally still for hours on end.
as a WW2 veteran, Hubbard probably would have known these things...and he used them to his advantage.
he literally used WW2 and Soviet torture/interrogation methods in his so-called "religion"...and not just one little part of his religion. it's the FOUNDATION of his cult--it's 100% required. voluntary mind control and mental torture is a REQUIREMENT for ALL members.
just let that sink in for a minute o.o
I don't think the questioning thing would be torture, more like a sort of mind hijacking. Does Scientology get members through fear of torture, or mind manipulation? The brain is literally hardware that you can change. Repetitive questions would dull you like trance and you would just slip. White rooms are more like torture.
Or it could be the opposite. It’s stress inoculation. Making one more resilient and less susceptible.
Otherwise, by your definition, special forces and SERE training is torture.
This is for both people who have replied. It's tempting to think this isn't torture when you see two equals demonstrating it for 5 minutes. But consider: in practice, these sessions occur between two people with an unequal power dynamic, the "teacher" or "auditor" (depending on the situation) has power in being an authority figure in the Church, and the student or parishioner is trying to stay in good standing and advance in the church to achieve their promised enlightenment. And they do it not for a few minutes or even a few hours. They do it for tens or even hundreds of hours. Sometimes up to 10 hours in a single session. Imagine being asked "do birds fly?" for 10 hours straight (training session) or "have you ever had sexual thoughts about your mother?" (or something equally uncomfortable and inappropriate) for 10 hours straight (auditing session). And sure, you can leave if you WANT to. But there are going to be serious social consequences if you do, and you'll have to go back and do the thing twice as hard for twice as long to regain favor. They draw you in with promises to teach you how to fix your problems. Then they do a session like this for 5 or 10 minutes, and you think "wow, this seems like it could actually be useful." And then they very gradually increase the intensity, while also systematically cutting you off from all friends and family who aren't also under scientology's control. And these tactics work on anyone. Stupid or smart, rich or poor, educated or uneducated. If you aren't aware of what will happen in advance and stay on your guard for it from the first minute, then it will work on you. It's scary.
If you place this under the category of torture then your understanding of the point of the rountine is missed. No one who practices scientology is there by force
@@soulgrown4132 That's arguable and anyone that actually knows anything about a cult especially Scientology would tell you so. Just because you technically have the ability to leave doesn't mean you aren't actually there due to some kind of control or pressure brought by the cult with which you are a member. Scientology practices something called disconnection which is also called shunning in some fundamentalist Christian sects.
If you leave the church you stand to lose everyone you love who is also still in the church. You are also subjected to endless harassment by Sciencetology private investigators and you risk anything you ever said in an auditing session being leaked to the public. Scientology is literally the single largest employer of private investigators in the world. Your darkest secrets could become public knowledge.
There are endless stories of people trying to leave Scientology literally being chased and having to wisk away their children in the dead of night from Scientology nurseries. Some people have even been confined on their ship the Freewinds. Lisa McPherson who is the person that the trust that filmed this very video drew their namesake from was held against her will after suffering a mental breakdown.
They subjected her to strictly Scientology techniques and refused to get her actual health care. She eventually died in the hotel room they locked her in and when she was autopsied they found she had broken her teeth from chewing on the walls and had cockroach bites all over her body from the room they kept her in. What you see in this video is not an example of the timetable with which these exercises are eventually done.
They are eventually done for hours on end and/or even days as she says in the video and that absolutely can be a form of mental torture as well as mind control. You need to do more research on both torture and Scientology before you make claims such as you have done here.
Supervisor: "Do birds fly?"
Me: "Specify parameters of "Bird""
Supervisor: "I'll repeat the auditing question, Do birds fly?"
Me: "No, not all birds."
Supervisor: "Do birds fly?"
Me: "Flunk, you did not establish firm communication. Start."
Supervisor: "I'll repeat the auditing question, Do birds fly?"
Me: "Flunk, you did not receive communication when I answered "No, not all birds.", Next time acknowledge my answer. Start."
Supervisor: "Do birds fly?"
Me: "No, not all birds."
Supervisor: "Good. Do birds fly?"
Me: "FLUNK YOU!!!" *Walks out*
Death of a Notion THE BIRDS ALL DIED LISTENING TO THIS
“As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.”
3:31 "Flunk; you sneezed" had me rolling.
This drills are meant to make you more "causative" when communicating. Specially during counselling sessions as an auditor. But life is a natural game of give and take and not a robotic routine that you use to control others and yourself. The drills of control through comm is the END GAME of every relations and endeavours.
Yes, that's actually what life is all about ... controlling others and yourself ... but not as an end in itself, the more you control yourself, the better you can fulfill your function as a human being and the better you can lead others, the better can they fulfill their function.
Thank you for your reply. What would you say if I told you that only control freaks are not ready to control themselfs? @@Hinterfrage
This is very similar to certain types of method acting execises. There's a fair amount of useful tecniques here. Practicing this would develop communication skills. The whole trick of scientology is to make it seem like they are the only people who possess this knowledge, that's when the theology probably becomes useful.
Sign me up!!! I sat through this whole video!!! I am now OT7!!!
respect -you win an alien - do the flunk dance and now do it all again, whilst standing on your head and reading the whole of L Ron Hubbards Dianetics
You have to watch the video 287 times to reach that level.
Any US Marine would pass the bull-baiting test.
@@uberfu as can a 12 year old
This actually looks kind of fun. It probably wouldn't be fun to do it for hours or days on end, but it's an interesting exercise.
Mark I’m so glad you all recorded this important work.
This training would turn you into the ultimate manipulative salesman
Raul Abundis Why???
Bingo. And many are celebrities. They are glorified sales people.
@@lisasilvas5914 Because these tools CAN make you an unfeeling robot bent to control other people. If that what you want.
You’re assuming a person would b become manipulative just because they’re calm, stable, and more able in communication. That’s your own pessimism leaking through. It has nothing to do with reality and everything to do with your own subjective view. And also this is auditors training which is designed to keep the pre clear focused and directed so that the best results can be achieved.
This is sick. Now I understand why my friend was looking at me strangly and seemed to me robotic. It was so unnatural. Now I understand, Jesus Christ! What a brain wash!
This brings me back to 1974 75 when I was in scientology located on 34 street in New York I was the receptionist. I was so happy .
Are you still in Scn or did you leave?
I left yrs ago but a special experience for me
@@taragosik Was it something specific that happened? Do you still apply the Tech in your life? For me until this day it’s a beautiful religion. But of course, you may have your personal reasons.
It's like the baseline test from blade runner 2049, they're programming people
I went through the Narconon program when I was 20 (11 years ago). We did all of these training routines. The Narconon program is based off the practices of Scientology, not the theology of Scientology. I don't feel they had any desire or motivation to indoctrinate us to the religion (it was never discussed) but to help people get healthy. These exercises seem weird, and are in a sense. But when you compare it to meditation it can be just as effective or even more. For me it brought control, calm, the ability to confront. An addict, or someone with low self-esteem might not be able to look someone in the eyes. After 2 hours (how long we went) of staring at someone that isn't an issue in social situations. The concept is "what you can face you can handle." The "bullbaiting" can get rough and is hard, I can see it has the potential to break someone or cause damage, but for me it was effective. The idea is finding a button and pressing it until the button didn’t doesn't anything. Like a pinball machine after the last ball fell into the out hole. So, in the real world no words or projection someone throws on me can have an effect.
I am not a scientologist -- I don't even know a lot about it. I'd consider myself a humanist / agnostic. I just want to communicate that the practices taken away from the religion are very practical and are very similar to corporate leadership training and personal growth.
This taught me to really notice things about people I was talking with...and also not to be overwhelmed by 'verbal bullshit'...very useful skills for a teacher in my experience(stay calm and get your information across)...I didn't like the 'religious side' but I never saw this training offered anywhere else...so I use it.
I went through that SAME EXACT experience near Temecula California
I feel the same way, I used to be really shy at communication but this forces you to face your fears, look at people in their eyes notice thier subtlety deal with attacks etc
Went to Narconon arrowhead, and yes I agree with what you said. TR-0 was a tough one for me. Once I got to TR-1 it was much easier. I still use some of the tools I got there.
May I recommend watching Dr Hugh Ross (astrophysicist), Frank Turek (scientist), or Jim Warner Wallace (cold case detective). They discuss evidence for God and it is fascinating!
If Jamie Lee Curtis joined a cult, she would look like her.
She is in a cult - Hollywood
Wow. This is a great way to teach people how to dissociate. Not really a good thing. It's how young children are able to survive repeated abuse. It works well as a coping mechanism for getting through the trauma but as an adult can destroy your life
People think you become hypnotically affected by this but that’s not the case. They think the commands given are about getting a subject to obey commands to induce a power of suggestion. Trust me that’s not what’s going on, your viewpoint is very well understood. What’s taking place is the rehabilitating of the human spirit. Getting the discomfort removed from a person. What’s being done is somebody is trained on confronting something g that’s difficult at confronting to remove the barriers which make it uncomfortable and finding that nothing bad happens despite all the things you might think were to. Just like when you were in school and a teacher asked you to do something, you weren’t hypnotized into following their order. If they asked you to do an assignment for 9 months straight and then on the 10th month said go jump out the window, you wouldn’t do it.
Some of this was dramatized in the movie ' The Master'
I just love this video. It is so calming and relaxing. I have watched it literally a hundred times or more.
wow, its been almost 10 years, yet this clip just keeps giving! majestic stuff!
Just to pay to have you brain cleanse and living in a Jedi cult space opera novel. NO WAY!
@@jacobtennyson9213 Jedi cult space opera novel!? Sign me in, Scotty!
@@zenfascist ... So an auditor will make you pay 5,000 or more to make you a brain cleaned Jedi.
@@jacobtennyson9213 What a bargain!! My neighbor, a plumber and self-taught reiki therapist, charges twice as much PER HOLE, and I don't think he even has any official training or degree in trephination.
omg this will drive u insane. training people into robots or machines
It feels great though, try it!
@@cme1447 ofc it feels great cause you're being hypnotized 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
This is teaching people to be submissive and obey each other without question. Very interesting.
Not so much...also teaches you to really listen to others and to communicate...depends on your intention.
Which is EXACTLY what a Cult-leader wants of his followers! 😮
no, it is not like that at all, trs build confidence, assertiveness...yes.
That's why Scientologists do. They turn you into Thetan Alien robots ready to use and abuse you.
@@InterdimensionalWiz No it's doesn't. Scientology destroys your mind.
this just makes it harder for me to understand how people to even get past the tr0. This has brought up a memory for me. In the early sixties i was asked to go up and try the e meter.After that i vaguely remember sitting opposite the man who gave me the e meter, and having to just keep staring at him. Its all coming back watching this video..
This reminds me of Drill and Ceremony in Basic Training for the US Army. The difference being, we were learning how to March however here it appears to be a full change of life style.
Thank you for posting this. I have been wanting to see the TR´s actualy being performed for quite a while. I think this is a must see for anyone and everyone. Great job and kudos to Stacy Brooks and Jesse Prince.
After watching this, I can see how Tom Cruise, a learning disabled person, fell in love with Scientology. Tom did NOT do well in the conventional American classroom, in part, due to his dyslexia.
This exercise for example, has nothing to do with "Reading Comprehension" or any "Comprehension" at all. A fast response WITHOUT thinking, is the goal. A subject who responds the way he was trained, without thinking, is a cultleader's dream!
I think LRH had OCD. This is classic Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Repeating, repeating, repeating things. Over and over and over again. That is what someone who suffers from OCD does.
Actually "OCD" is one of the ridiculous diagnosis that LRH's TRs r designed to rebuke. Dianetics r simply "Applied Freudian Psychoanalysis" with tech to actually RESOLVE. Its not perfect. But it beats being in some quacks office paying 1000s for two generations of your family! ;)
So instead you're in a "religious institution" paying to eventually learn about Xenu? FLUNK!
Repeating things over and over again is also what professionals do such as athletes and surgeons so that they don’t make simple mistakes when they are needed the most
If you do your purifs before your TRs and get the DTs, will your examiner get POed?
What about the wall one and the pushing from wall to wall?
Scientology Cured Me of Disbelief! I believe they are all completely nuts! It Worked!
This is incredible
Love this!! Life saving.
Very interesting. A little like the exercises you get on Drama courses !
What was the purpose of making this video please ?
I think it is to clear the reactive mind.
The TRs, when done for long enough, like in the hours long sessions you'd be forced to endure, become a form of hypnosis/thought reform.
juankenon
Thanks, I wonder what the experience feels like during and after?
I've been curious as well, but since I don't have thousands of dollars to throw away it will forever be a mystery :P. Check out "The Beginners Guide to L. Ron Hubbard" (it is on youtube). This British guy goes out and does the initial training courses in Russia with the "freezone" (scientologists practicing outside of the official "church"), really fascinating/nutty stuff (like yelling at an ashtray). Also if you're interested in the subject of the cult check out the interview with ex-member John Duignan (also here on youtube), perhaps the single best such interview on the net.
juankenon Thanks a lot. I will give this a look. I have always been very interested in the COS and related materials.
The problem with this is that the woman isn't at the tone required (tone 40) when flunking him, she's around 1.9 on the Tone Scale.
Wtf?
I have to say I find many of the techniques of Sci**** fascinating. Once the sci-fi and usury are removed there really seems to be something of value left. Great video, thank you.
A lot of this seems to be about training people to agree to nonsense, and getting other people to agree to nonsense. We can learn a lot from cults like this however.
It’s like barring training. This kind of stuff is actually useful dealing with hostile people.
It'll cost you $300,000+ to get to the top of the Bridge.
It takes about 12 years to decondition yourself from Scientology.
It's not worth it - do Tai Chi instead.
MrJohndoakes - according to Leah, there is no end to the bridge
I couldn’t be a Scientologist I’m too goofy ... this makes no sense..I’d flunk all the time.
I had hypnosis for pain alleviation, it was a bit like this but the woman was talking. I ended up uncomfortable,my nose started running, then the coughing started. Then my hips locked up from sitting erect. Unfortunately I left in more pain but did learn that I can’t sit still for more than around 5 secs. I imagine Scientology would hate me 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
if you have paid for this or are paying for this shit i am sorry for you.
this seems exhausting...
The guy is hilarious lol. Also this was actually very helpful. I am taking the communication course and didnt have a partner to do the TR.
if I remember correctly Hubbard wrote something to the government about mind control and offered them his research or papers or something...... it's weird that people would even walk into one of the buildings that's associated with Hubbard. more people need to read
do they teach tr 6 - 9 in the HQS course?
"You have an eye tic!" There is no way I'd pass.........I would be trying too hard to keep from laughing :)
You'd be amazed at the kind of reactions this stuff cures.
Such an effective video! Really thankful you posted this and kept it up on YT so long bc it’s incredibly helpful to comprehend what actually happens in TRs and be able to see them in action.
I could previously kind of imagine how & what aspects would indoctrinate someone, as well as possibly cause mental effects that are hypnotic, abnormal, or confusing etc… however, being able to envision & better understand what it would be like to undergo, how tedious/drawn out the exercises are, and recognize the conformist, intimidating, and coercive characteristics (among many other negative features) really gives a whole new perspective and appreciation for the impact and influence these exercises would have on a person, and only increases my upset and empathy for ppl affected by this disgusting & harmful org.
TRs are great, I sometimes help friends by doing TRs, can be a great confidence boost, helping someone to relax and BE there.
Scientologists are quack therapy auditors making you believe in Aliens.
@@InterdimensionalWiz TR's are fake!
Get away from Scientology right now before it's too late!
You imply scientology does offer something "... the cost of it versus the benefit (?)" you imply there is a benefit in your own sentence.
The most disturbing part of scientology is how much you have to PAY to get this benefit that you admit we can't even confirm...
This is one of my favorite & most rewarding of exercises for achieving inner stillness even in the presence of others. Very helpful for actors.
Maybe this would be useful training for the royal guard at Buckingham Palace.
informative, thanks
That's the thing; I don't know if they are acting or if the TRs make you act like 10-year-old.
MrJohndoakes they make you act all kinds of weird... I went through them at a Narconon rehab facility, which is just a front for Scientology brainwashing. It’s sickening...
The Asch Experiment and the Milgram experiment
I can see how, coercion and fear removed, these drills could have a number of positive uses.
Do birds fly? there is a man with a gun behind you I'll repeat the auditing command do birds fly? no seriously dude someone is about to kill you! I'll repe.. *BANG*
MIND CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 101.
Jesse in a recent video said that Stacy went back to scientology. Is it true?
Incredible
After watching this, I picked up an axe and went on a murderous rampage. This stuff is insanity! No wonder they're so suggestible. After a year of this...and tons of money...you find out that Xenu is Satsn, etc. Wow!
When he leaned towards her, it makes me think this cult is setting women up to-be assaulted. She cannot move or she flunks. Then he starts saying all kinds of craziness. Again she is supposed to be still. Setting women up to be DV victims
Rainbow Writer - and men
Very strange interpretation….because someone who is calm during confrontation is way better at combat then someone who reacts nervously
I’ve heard that they are often subjected to inappropriate sexual comments
It is amazing how smart people submit themselves to such stupid drills and think it helps them.
Amen
@@cynthiaconnell7878 it’s a sunk cost fallacy and illusion of progress and the Asch experiment effects
Could you do an audit
I have never been involved with Scientology. But I worked at a small business with a woman who was and ex scientologist. I was very shy at the time and avoided confrontation. We went through some of theses exercises and they have been completely instrumental to my growth and development. While scientology might be a "cult" don't think some of the teachings don't have real world value.
All cults deliver value like this, it’s the hook. It’s always about personal attention
These techniques have been around forever and so simple they can be deduced easily
That's why it is so successful, it has to have some value and something that people appreciate about it otherwise it wouldn't succeed and people would leave immediately if they didn't see any value from it.
It's the benefits of the programs that makes people return, without these benefits the cult would be non existent as non would return.
I see the value of this for closing sales or negotiations is not all bs, you can train yourself for emotional situations
What happens if a student/pre-clear/whatever falls asleep during an auditing session?
Auditor gets reprimanded
Purpose. That which you can confront you can handle.
That is some scary shiat.
Imagine doing this stuff for real & paying shitload of money for it 🤣
The tr's are beneficial. You've got deep eye gazing and that's not criticized. Same thing.
this looks fun and cool..how do i get in on this!
+greengobie Talk to Tom Cruise.......
greengobie Did you do it???
Visit your nearest church 🙌🏻
that was really interesting. I watched the whole thing.
The purpose of this is Whattttt????????????? Nooooooooo. I can’t imagine going through this.. it’s insane! Flunk? What
How does this work on people? I wanted to run out of the room after the first 2 minutes.
23:45 being able to control other people and being in control of yourself is a good thing
nice way to program people
I would be out of there so quick.
It could be likened to I can't remember the name of it but where no physical contact allows for an understanding of the body within sex.. Tantric sex.. the heightened awareness.. doing it for hours in end I don't agree with .. but to spend time with a person in the quietness of spirit and understanding the energy levels I can see a benefit in.
Trying new things in itself is not wrong.
Tantric was something I was interested in.. because it's creating an understanding of self and the other person to be able to move as a oneness but then seperate again into the individual was how I was looking at it.
To understand the sensitivity within the unspoken isn't a bad thing in my opinion. I used to do similar things on my own. Shutting out the outside noises and concerns is a practiced thing though became more difficult once having children.
With a partner I can see it being beneficial before physical touching.. because it's about becoming attuned to the energies felt which can help to bring an emotional togetherness so both are in the moment together rather than being in two different places mentally and emotionally yet trying to come together in physical sex.
When having issues of intimacy or feeling safe enough to let the guard down I was interested in this particular subject but not something that is done with just anyone.. because it could be dangerous potentially to do so. There has to be a certain amount of trust to begin with..
That is what a wanderer or a seeker does.. looking for ways to improve self and relationship if in one.
It's not something anyone has the right to take by force at all.
Careful consideration before entering into such things was what I was about.
is Scientology a cult ?
bogdan keta half cult, half money-ripping-off-scam
About as much as democrats, republicans, christians, catholics, capitalists, etc are.
What I got from this video is that the two instructors are a couple of flunkees! 🤣
Medication time
Do Trs Before going for a job interview.
The TRs are designed that way, it's a form of hypnosis and conditioning.
I Would love to do that. 😅
There is a big diference between a chanal of a critic and from Scientology: The Chanal from Cult of Scientology had no comment field open ^^
Back when I went to church, because my parents made me go, our pastor flat out admitted the tithe wasn't in The Bible, but that they used it anyway as a decent marking point for good giving. He said you should give what you feel like giving because if you hate giving, there's no point and you shouldn't bother. God likes a cheerful giver or something. Some churches are really good about it and others are really bad.
kreskinkun - it IS in the Bible. You would find it in Leviticus and probably Deuteronomy also
Don't Americans make their young children stand up and salute a flag and repeat robotic incantations to it every morning? Not sure why they would think these behavioral exercises for adults are so outlandish.
was macht man mit einem magnetische Zentrum ?
exactly.......
looks like some helpful skills to have.... whether it is used for good or bad is another issue entirely
This video got me interested in signing up for Scientology!
Of course there is stuff in Scn you can benefit from. Ohterwise so many people would not still use and teach what they learned as "free zoners".
The problem is that they did not let you decide for yourself, what you find beneficial or not. Today, I suppose, they don't really care what you think about it as long as you are doing what you are told.
The above exercise is from the era where everybody was supposed to become a practitioner of scn.
I can't believe the dog ate the cat right behind her and she didn't do a thing. What a monster.
That said, I can see that TR3 going wrong.
"Do birds fly?"
"Good, that's a pass."
"I will repeat the auditing question. Do birds fly?"
"No, seriously, that's a pass."
"I will repeat the auditing question. Do birds fly?"
"Um, you can stop now.."
"I will repeat...."
Lol this shit is gold. That's next level duplicity
All of these drills would be extremley useful, if you did them for reasonable durations and removed the Xenu crap. The military puts you through extreme versions of some of this during bootcamp.
Most funny thing I have seen in AGES!!
Okay but, *do* birds fly?
I cant afford to be a Scientologist so i became a Christian. 10 bucks in the collection each week and some volunteer grass mowing. Go God