Did Paulie, Patsy & Butch Kill Tony Soprano? | The Sopranos Explained

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  • The ending of The Sopranos is one of the most debated scenes in television history. Some fans think Tony Soprano died, others think he survived.
    If Tony was indeed whacked - who killed Tony Soprano? In today's video, I discuss the theory that Paulie, Patsy and Butch conspired to take out Tony. In my opinion, this is the best Sopranos ending theory.
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  • @CineRanter
    @CineRanter  Před 4 měsíci +21

    *Who killer Tony Soprano? Ultimate Suspect Guide:*
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    • @BaronSaturday66
      @BaronSaturday66 Před 4 měsíci

      It was Angie B... Pussy's widow. She was pissed about what Tony did to her car with that baseball bat.

    • @veritasinvicta8128
      @veritasinvicta8128 Před 4 měsíci +5

      P & P are my choices. It's foreshadowed throughout the show with both characters. Never considered Butchie but you figure they must have had NY's blessing to carry out the hit.

    • @robertlee4172
      @robertlee4172 Před 4 měsíci +1

      All the clues you've mention adds up. Butch, Paulie, and Ralph Bunche. I especially liked the point you made about the dream sequence where Tony shoots Paulie, then the scene cuts to black. That foreboding statement made by Tony to Dr. Melfi, "There's two outcomes for a high profile guy like me, dead or in the can."
      The anxiety these mobsters live through on a daily basis. It's just too much to bear.

    • @diviningrod2671
      @diviningrod2671 Před 4 měsíci +2

      More importantly what happens to Ginny Sacks ?? Who is admonishing her for hidden candy bars? Or snuggling up to her Rubenesque warmth on the cold nights ??
      RIP Denise Borino

    • @ButtersCCookie
      @ButtersCCookie Před 4 měsíci +1

      That was absolutely brilliant. No one ever spoke to that observation. I had held that thought too. But let it go, thinking it was too big and too wild. Butch was unafraid and despised him. He orchestrated everything. I thought he gave up Phil too. With Pauly I agree it was a horrible vibe. I could not trust Tony after what I saw, did and knew. Pauly went above and beyond causing that tension over the joke. He and Tony were petty and shallow. They were the same coin. Mommy issues and all. I thought getting close to Tony by way of marriage was brilliant. Meadow was never innocent. She caused death and fighting. She was no angel. I still think they were all killed but her. That would be the best ending. AJ was useless as an aire. Carmela was just as evil as Tony in her wearing his rank. Never saw Rosalie do that. Thank you again. All these years. I believe Little Carmine instigated some of it. The keep your enemies close.

  • @HellSpawn_Dre
    @HellSpawn_Dre Před 4 měsíci +658

    "Butch had his eyes everywhere".... literally lol

    • @johngriffiths118
      @johngriffiths118 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Ha !

    • @shovedhead
      @shovedhead Před 4 měsíci +4

      😂

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite Před 4 měsíci +12

      Yeah. That's part of what made the character sinister to me. I couldn't tell where he was focusing.

    • @itsyaboi921
      @itsyaboi921 Před 4 měsíci +8

      He had two beautiful blue eyes……
      One blue this way one blue that way

    • @missbhavin4philly
      @missbhavin4philly Před 4 měsíci

      Cthu

  • @fimachinchilla
    @fimachinchilla Před 4 měsíci +170

    The Vipers did it.

    • @heyYo31
      @heyYo31 Před měsícem +7

      Gold

    • @deabolik.
      @deabolik. Před měsícem

      see that prick face when he saw the gun?

    • @Captain_Willard
      @Captain_Willard Před měsícem

      Probably that Grizzly Adams looking motha fucka

    • @jakefuller685
      @jakefuller685 Před měsícem

      You’ll Cowards Don’t Even Smoke Crack

    • @freddofrog9892
      @freddofrog9892 Před 18 dny +8

      Ooooooh wE’RE tHe ViPErs 😂

  • @fjmj1980
    @fjmj1980 Před 4 měsíci +307

    Another aspect is the loss of Sil means Tony looses the only person who could have alerted him to something was up with his own capos. Sil was also too invested in Tony and likely was seen by NY as unapproachable.

    • @fjmj1980
      @fjmj1980 Před 4 měsíci +37

      I also thought of another aspect. Sil was very critical of Paulie. Paulie likely told NY that Sil was trouble from the time he criticized him and saw him as in the way of Tony and their special friendship. Sil always reminded him that in the end he was bad at making money. The ironic thing is that Sil would have been the best to run Jersey even from a NY view. He saw things with a level head knew the crew and how to keep them in line and knew Tony’s problems were very much of his own making. It’s fate that NY incapacitated the one guy they needed untouched.

    • @sayhello2heaven_
      @sayhello2heaven_ Před 4 měsíci +15

      I forget but didn’t New York essentially want to dissolve the New Jersey family? Them going after ALL the leadership kinda indicates they don’t have the intention of restructuring the family, just absorbing whatever’s left. Plus after the headache that was Tony’s reign I could see them just not wanting to put up with the headache and just cut their losses.

    • @user-fo9bv2mm1g
      @user-fo9bv2mm1g Před 3 měsíci

      NJ becomes weaker, almost like a satellite of NY.@@sayhello2heaven_

    • @PaulSimpson-qo3bw
      @PaulSimpson-qo3bw Před 3 měsíci

      They reached out to Burton an sis wacked him

    • @johnclark4593
      @johnclark4593 Před 3 měsíci +1

      "SHIL COULDA GOT HOIT!!!!!" Damn, Gandolfini was the greatest actor who ever lived.

  • @maximuscesar
    @maximuscesar Před 4 měsíci +280

    "Butch had his eyes everywhere" this cracked me so hard 🤣🤣🤣

    • @rideauxbaldwin6071
      @rideauxbaldwin6071 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I was going to say that!

    • @tucko11
      @tucko11 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Ya when he “just spoke to Phil he ain’t seeing nobody” he was really telling Carmine and Tony at the front doorstep while looking over at Ph Leotardo upstairs at the same time lol it’s an amazing talent to do that with just two sets of a eye lol

    • @SirDistic
      @SirDistic Před 15 dny

      He ain't had to do Butch like that.

  • @christopherconard2831
    @christopherconard2831 Před 4 měsíci +246

    Pauli's fate. In my mind I see him walking down a store aisle, looking up and seeing Valery at one end and a few other Russians at the other.

    • @AlphonseWeebay
      @AlphonseWeebay Před 4 měsíci +80

      Still can’t believe that guy was an interior decorator… his house looked like shit!

    • @robban8552
      @robban8552 Před 4 měsíci +6

      ​@@AlphonseWeebay😅😅 that was the best

    • @kurtanglerookieyear
      @kurtanglerookieyear Před 3 měsíci +4

      "you want drink?"

    • @captaindowntown7851
      @captaindowntown7851 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@kurtanglerookieyear Nah I stopped at Roy Roger's.

    • @BigShaun
      @BigShaun Před 3 měsíci +6

      Poot yoonivorsal lemote on doacking stairshun

  • @rdl2820
    @rdl2820 Před 4 měsíci +214

    It was Heidi and Kennedy come back to finish what they started with Christopher on that highway...

  • @adamweiner8874
    @adamweiner8874 Před 4 měsíci +158

    A minor thought: Paulie with the scissors can also symbolize him cutting ties with the family.

    • @davidsavage5630
      @davidsavage5630 Před 4 měsíci +11

      Also someone is getting clipped and he's responsible for the clipping lol..

    • @opaljk4835
      @opaljk4835 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Or maybe his hair

    • @wyldhowl2821
      @wyldhowl2821 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I just thought Minnie Mitrone was just really into scissoring, before Paulie grabbed her box.

    • @johncreighton44
      @johncreighton44 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Very good, Dom

    • @stevengilmartin4805
      @stevengilmartin4805 Před 2 měsíci

      I like that

  • @NaZtRdAmUs
    @NaZtRdAmUs Před 4 měsíci +67

    "Look at him. He knows everything" - Livia

  • @paulie-Gualtieri.
    @paulie-Gualtieri. Před 4 měsíci +209

    Fvckin slander if you ask me!

  • @Brooksey1992
    @Brooksey1992 Před 4 měsíci +130

    The reason the ending is so great, is nobody is wrong. If you want your theory to be true, it is, and you being right doesn’t mean anyone else is wrong. There’s enough clues sprinkled throughout to support multiple theories, without shutting down the possibility of other theories. I hated the ending at first, but over a decade later, i have come to understand why it’s so great.
    Also lost count of Soprano references in the video, even some Wire ones thrown in too, top video Cine!

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite Před 4 měsíci +6

      Yeah, and when you look at all the good writing David Chase has done in his long career, it's far from an overnight success.

    • @KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je
      @KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je Před 4 měsíci +11

      Everyone is right and no one is wrong. A very cowardly way to tell a story, you don't offend anyone.

    • @Brooksey1992
      @Brooksey1992 Před 4 měsíci +7

      So, should we have ended up with a generic ass boring ending like Boardwalk Empire then? Or maybe no ending at all, like Deadwood? Or an ending out of mercy to salvage the final season, like The Wire?
      No my friend, Sopranos ending is excellent.

    • @cursed_arzine
      @cursed_arzine Před 4 měsíci +1

      Absolutely man, the awesome thing David Chase did was sprinkle moments of mystique thru the series and left some things up to interpretation, fed into the realistic, and yet supernatural, elements of the show

    • @kennethbgoodin
      @kennethbgoodin Před 4 měsíci +6

      to me the brilliance of the ending is really that no matter which interpretation you subscribe to, ultimately it doesn’t matter. tony is living in a hell of his own making whether he dies in the restaurant or in some other dispute or of natural causes from his gluttonous lifestyle. he will continually alienate himself from anyone close in the exact way his mother did as long as he is alive.

  • @WingsOfAgeOfConsent
    @WingsOfAgeOfConsent Před 4 měsíci +607

    Members only jacket guy was related to Eugene. Hired by Eugene's wife to wack tony for not letting Eugene retire. She had the funds to make it happen.

    • @Diego-it6gr
      @Diego-it6gr Před 4 měsíci +59

      She didn’t do it. She wasn’t even mad with Tony; from her perspective, Tony didn’t do it intentionally, just business. And if she was, she would have died trying: and if she had family in the mob, why weren’t they in the funeral?

    • @veritasinvicta8128
      @veritasinvicta8128 Před 4 měsíci +19

      But that doesn't explain all of the foreshadowing (Through the first season to the last) pointing to P&P.

    • @keveardo
      @keveardo Před 4 měsíci +120

      She definitely said she wanted Eugene to put a bullet in his head, so this theory isnt that far fetched

    • @Lizard1582
      @Lizard1582 Před 4 měsíci +48

      That's too reductive considering the amount of motive and foreshadowing for the other characters have who are used to killing people. The members only jacket is just a nod to an execution scene that wouldve been similar.
      Her being even able to buy the hit is pretty unbelievable as well. Whatever criminals are in the hitting business would know Tony isnt just some random target.

    • @misterrain837
      @misterrain837 Před 4 měsíci +10

      No

  • @icaanul
    @icaanul Před 4 měsíci +61

    It was the hasidic homeboy with the assistance of meadow.
    "He's lucky I didn't punch his lights out."
    He waited.... and waited.... and in the end, he punched tony's ticket. Lights out.

    • @rodbelding9523
      @rodbelding9523 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Best theory so far. He put Tony's lights out, he was just waiting for the right moment.

    • @mosesjuice2
      @mosesjuice2 Před 4 měsíci +8

      No it was the Jewish son in law that Tony shook down. He hid in the tunnels of New York waiting for Tony to slip up. Tony was doneski as soon as he entered that kosher diner. He came up from under the floorboards and done him in.

    • @jmac6069
      @jmac6069 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Charcoal briquette?

  • @paperdoll5467
    @paperdoll5467 Před 4 měsíci +34

    I never tire of discussing any part of the Sopranos, "but you do what you gotta do".

    • @11fireflower
      @11fireflower Před 3 měsíci

      😅😂😂

    • @NateG219
      @NateG219 Před měsícem

      It's a hard one, because I love it. And ending with Tony's Death, makes sense (considering the last few episodes), but it doesn't matter, it was left to our imagination, which is the best, we have our own ending. Members only jackets, yet outdated, still were worn by idiots that were stuck in the 80's, people on occasion wore them still, and today, if found

  • @scottslaughter6309
    @scottslaughter6309 Před 4 měsíci +31

    Tony's biggest mistake was letting Paulie know that he was thinking about killing him. Huge mistake. Paulie is a survivor

    • @BookshelfQBattler
      @BookshelfQBattler Před 3 měsíci

      When did he do that?

    • @journaldeborddaymeric
      @journaldeborddaymeric Před 3 měsíci

      Maybe when Tony talked to the guy in the wheel chair.

    • @scottslaughter6309
      @scottslaughter6309 Před 3 měsíci +7

      When he was on the boat. Paulie knew something was up. And Tony kept asking Paulie if he's the one that told Johnny Sac about the joke. I mean sure Paulie didn't know for sure but he had to have suspicions that Tony was thinking about killing him.

  • @joypadretro2797
    @joypadretro2797 Před 4 měsíci +44

    i LOVE that 25 years after this series started, we're still not very sure on what happend at the end, and discussing isstill is fun to me!

    • @theonlygoodonehere2259
      @theonlygoodonehere2259 Před 3 měsíci +5

      its getting tiring honestly

    • @joypadretro2797
      @joypadretro2797 Před 3 měsíci

      i get you @@theonlygoodonehere2259 i understand that many people have had enough of that content.
      You know what i also like, but these seem to be banned from youtube; those Soprano Mini Sagas. The Vito Johnny Cakes story for example. Too bad it was banned.

  • @mbeetroot8489
    @mbeetroot8489 Před 4 měsíci +16

    Whilst I originally believed this to be the most likely theory after I finished watching for the 1st time, I realise now that it could just as easily be a dozen other things. There's no doubt a really creepy and eerie supernatural vibe to the sopranos that I think is really overlooked when it comes to discussions of the show, and the prophecies foretold throughout the show (Chris' 3 o clock warning, Junior's 'these things come in threes' etc.)
    Personally, I believe that Tony's everpresent and increasing self indulgence sets these prophecies in stone. And its through this almost cosmic wisdom that anybody could have killed Tony. He became such a hated person that there are hundreds of suspects in his death. It really doesn't matter who killed him, just that they did.
    That being said, I do believe Patsy and Paulie selling out Tony to new york was a plausible explanation but personally, I prefer the idea that this plan never came to fruition. I like to think that whilst their scheme was set in motion, Tony was killed in a widely unrelated event most watchers probably forgot about around 20 episodes ago.
    To me, Eugene's brother-in-law or other relative shot and killed Tony as revenge for driving him to suicide. The hit that Eugene was sent on in the diner, matched with the shooters' Members Only jacket, most likely inherited to him after Gene's death are clear hints at this. Notice how the man looks nervous, unsure of what he's about to do and unfamiliar with the act. He wants justice but is contemplating his options. As he lines up with Tony, at his 3 o clock, where Meadow is supposed to sit, he pulls the trigger and kills Tony in front of his family. Just like Gene did by hanging himself in the family's garage.
    Tony would have died anyway, it's just a matter of when. Selling out Tony was not that hard for Patsy or Paulie to do, but I disagree entirely with the idea they would have been comfortable killing him in front of his entire family whom they've known for years.

    • @JoeMama-dt4jg
      @JoeMama-dt4jg Před 4 měsíci +3

      But as the show has shown us multiple times, that “familial bond” is all bullshit. A prime example is from the sixth season when Paulie expressed contempt for having to pay dues to Carmela. “Fuck her!”….so I doubt that’d stop them…they’d probably look at it as the price of doing business

  • @paulstrathern4309
    @paulstrathern4309 Před 4 měsíci +58

    Butch certainly had motive and means to off Tony, and I think he DID, but I never viewed Paulie or Patsy to be that Machiavellian. Paulie wasn't even savvy enough to pick up on the fact that Johnny Sack was simply using him as a mole to get inside info on the Sopranos.
    I always thought it was one of three things that happened:
    1) Tony gets hit right in front of his family. Reason: This is the way that Phil got hit
    2) There's an attempt on Tony's life but Meadow surprises the hitman and she gets hit instead. Reason: This is what happened in Godfather 3
    3) No one gets hit, they finish their dinner and Tony ends up flipping. Reason: The real life mob boss of the DeCavalcante family that Tony is based on, Billy Ocean, turns informant.

  • @bakarandguladze
    @bakarandguladze Před 4 měsíci +77

    0:35 I knew it wasn't just me to call that dude Zelensky 😂😂😂😂

  • @biglootums5243
    @biglootums5243 Před 4 měsíci +62

    100% Paulie was in on it. The other aspects I sway back and forth on, but I just don't believe that Paulie wasn't trying to get rid of Tony at the end. Honestly the fact that he wasn't clipped by one of his own capos before the end is a borderline religious miracle

    • @user-wq6np5dt6k
      @user-wq6np5dt6k Před 4 měsíci +13

      I disagree. I don't think Paulie wanted to be Boss. He got through the 70's by the skin of his balls because he stayed off the radar

    • @DH-xh3pg
      @DH-xh3pg Před 4 měsíci +6

      Paulie says something to Patsy likes”it’s yours for the taking” or something like that. I think Patsy probably became Boss and Paulie as Underboss….

    • @TheRedPeril
      @TheRedPeril Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@DH-xh3pgPatsy running New Jersey. Nah.

    • @antoniopavicevac-ortiz8886
      @antoniopavicevac-ortiz8886 Před 3 měsíci +1

      It's clear Paulie was interviewing for something. Remember the times him gabbing with Johnny. And there was a discussion he had with someone from NY towards the end, but i can't remember who.

    • @conservakid85
      @conservakid85 Před 3 měsíci +11

      If Paulie was in on it, no way he approves Tony getting clipped in front of Carmela and the kids.

  • @guppypup
    @guppypup Před 4 měsíci +3

    Excellent analogy! Your details and callbacks to the series are nothing but spectacular! Great job!

  • @Guillermo_Carratero
    @Guillermo_Carratero Před 4 měsíci +68

    How much more betrayal can I take? I feel like I've been stabbed in the heart!!

    • @goodyeoman4534
      @goodyeoman4534 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Grandpa Munster ova here.

    • @trentgragg1159
      @trentgragg1159 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Paulie didn’t do it I refused to believe that, he really loved Tony

    • @goodyeoman4534
      @goodyeoman4534 Před 3 měsíci

      @@trentgragg1159 Shit for brains ova here.

  • @alexvanzandt8517
    @alexvanzandt8517 Před 4 měsíci +47

    Heres a bigger question who ate tony's lo mein ?

    • @BaronSaturday66
      @BaronSaturday66 Před 4 měsíci +13

      Bobby Baccala of course.

    • @alexvanzandt8517
      @alexvanzandt8517 Před 4 měsíci +8

      @@BaronSaturday66 He had family obligations, ask his wife

    • @robertlee4172
      @robertlee4172 Před 4 měsíci +9

      Chris got the $25 Toblerone bar, that much we do know.
      The empty Mallowmar box is still up for debate.

    • @jonathandosman5496
      @jonathandosman5496 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hahaha just watched that this evening

    • @GoldenStateGOAT
      @GoldenStateGOAT Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@BaronSaturday66"i was hungry"

  • @Gambito99100
    @Gambito99100 Před 4 měsíci +99

    I agree 100% with this theory, and may I add, the hitman looking and dressing like Eugene was just symbolism, he's not related to Eugene, he simply represents that Tony was not untouchable, and he could get killed by someone as low in the food chain as Eugene, someone Tony mistreated literally to death

    • @reddevil6585
      @reddevil6585 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ofcourse
      He doesn’t have president security & resources
      Wouldn’t take much

    • @it.was.written
      @it.was.written Před 4 měsíci +11

      Eugene wasn’t low on the food chain, he was a made man, untouchable himself.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite Před 4 měsíci

      @@it.was.written: Yeah. One of the few characters in the series for whom I felt sorry.

    • @twatmang1
      @twatmang1 Před 4 měsíci +8

      you ought ta know sweetie@@KutWrite

    • @BookshelfQBattler
      @BookshelfQBattler Před 3 měsíci +8

      Arguably Eugene wasn’t mistreated. Eugene voluntarily entered the mob life knowing once you get on you never leave. He reaped all the money and benefits. It would have been nice if he could have left because of an unexpected inheritance but Tony let’s him leave pretty soon all the guys have a reason to leave and he gets accused of playing favorites letting Eugene go but no one else go.

  • @daviddanielsson3643
    @daviddanielsson3643 Před 4 měsíci +53

    This theory is the right one:
    Vito faked his own death. The man in the member's only jacket went to the bathroom 'cause it had a glory hole and he was meeting Vito there. When the door bell rang Vito came through the door. Tony had a panic attack and blacked out from the chock.

  • @grahambuckerfield4640
    @grahambuckerfield4640 Před 4 měsíci +32

    ‘Butch had his eyes everywhere’, Cold. (Keep them coming though!)

  • @iraevans2013
    @iraevans2013 Před 4 měsíci +11

    I always felt the most fitting end was just a stroke. He just dies right there. No drama. Both expected and unexpected. Completely unsatisfying for everyone. Forever debated. Epically anticlimactic 👌

    • @berry541
      @berry541 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Absolutely.
      A stroke or heart attack.
      Tony’s fear of betrayal reached its end.
      Tony was betrayed by his own body.
      What could be more insidious than that?
      What could be less cinematic than that?

  • @waynegreen87
    @waynegreen87 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Idk if Paulie is truly a part of the scheme and he considered a rat because of the mere fact that the creators of the show signed a deal with Tony Sirico agreeing that his character wouldn’t be a rat.
    Cutting ties with the family is a different scenario however..

    • @wyldhowl2821
      @wyldhowl2821 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Paulie was not rat. If he did not like cats, perhaps he was a dog, and every dog has his day.

  • @dougfraser77
    @dougfraser77 Před měsícem +5

    "Butch had his eyes... everywhere"
    I love the continual little jokes you throw in

  • @paulsteffens1550
    @paulsteffens1550 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Thank you for this video. This has what I've been thinking for years.

  • @bentencho
    @bentencho Před 4 měsíci +19

    Unlikely Patsy would send someone to whack Tony at the diner. Meadow could have easily been caught in between and killed. Whatever Patsy's issue with Tony was, I doubt he would put his son's fiancee, his own future daughter-in-law, needlessly at risk.

    • @TheWhackyIraqi
      @TheWhackyIraqi Před 4 měsíci +18

      He’s a cold blooded guy I don’t think he cares about that. From his perspective, his son can just go marry someone else. His son marrying Meadow doesn’t benefit him in any way.

    • @marissac870
      @marissac870 Před 4 měsíci

      I wouldn't doubt the son was playing the daughter. All apart of it.

    • @FH-hu5vn
      @FH-hu5vn Před 4 měsíci

      He could have given the instructions for the hit to take place when she wasn’t near, sine it happens before she’s at the table.

    • @marissac870
      @marissac870 Před 4 měsíci

      @@FH-hu5vn watching the last episodes again after going thru the season. and it's obvious Paulie and Patsy said Bye Bye 👋 ByeBye Tony. They knew the deal.

  • @danielpowers423
    @danielpowers423 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Love how you slip in malapropism lines in all your videos.
    You even used my favorite line from the series: "create a little dysentery among the ranks"

  • @prst4190
    @prst4190 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Members only is a reference to NJ not being one of the five NY families, truly not of their stature . NJ has been out of bounds for a long time and it’s time to settle accounts. Pure and simple.

  • @apstrike
    @apstrike Před 4 měsíci +15

    I don't believe these three could organize a successful hit on a boss without messing it up or being discovered.

    • @jessicamarsano2935
      @jessicamarsano2935 Před 3 měsíci

      They might mess it up. They might be discovered. But as the scene cut...you get to invent your own ending. I guess that's the genius of it all! I like your idea they messed it up. I love speculating on different endings and how they'd play out. I love that the characters are so well developed.

  • @itzshowtim3
    @itzshowtim3 Před 3 měsíci +7

    "Butch had his eyes everywhere" underrated and multi layered wording 😂😂😂😂

  • @charlesindig8101
    @charlesindig8101 Před 4 měsíci +30

    This show is by far the best TV series Ive ever seen! over 25yrs later and its still very much talked about. With the ending......... I believe Butch conspired with Paulie to have Tony whacked!

  • @stuglenn1112
    @stuglenn1112 Před 4 měsíci +22

    Butch and family smoked Tony, Patsy had no involvement or knowledge, Paulie wasn't involved but knew it was coming. It was as clear as day.

    • @bigdemon6560
      @bigdemon6560 Před 2 měsíci

      Did y’all get even watch the video ?

  • @iamjason1279
    @iamjason1279 Před 3 měsíci +4

    16yrs later and we’re still taking about possible theories in the sopranos, just goes to show how good of a show this was.

  • @dominikz.1376
    @dominikz.1376 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Pauline sitting at 3’oclock on the motor yacht, Pauline bringing box of scissors / Judas’ 30 pieces of silver relation discovery: great video: I’m impressed by the detail and revelations!

  • @melissah9125
    @melissah9125 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I love your channel so much, just discovered it tonight. I wish you had a podcast so we all could discuss. I have many thoughts brought on by your brilliant synopses

  • @ArrgPvP
    @ArrgPvP Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for these new insights that i didnt get from the ultimate suspect guide, you have the best scripts on youtube :D

  • @garyfrombrooklyn
    @garyfrombrooklyn Před 4 měsíci +12

    5:02 I know I’m not the only one but damn dude, that had me laughing for a moment there. Had to pause the clip “Butchie had his eyes everywhere” perfect 🤌🏽

  • @Jimmyfly215
    @Jimmyfly215 Před 4 měsíci +23

    Tony had the head of one of the 5 families killed. even if Phil's own crew stood down, that is still a top offense in the mob. you need a nod and a OK from all 4 other bosses for a boss to get whacked. nobody would have given Tony that. technically, not that the show covered this, but anyone in NY could have killed Tony. maybe thats why nobody knows who the hell the members only guy was.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite Před 4 měsíci

      Yes. I vaguely recall that's how they chose the actor to play Members Only Guy. It's an interesting interview on YT.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite Před 2 měsíci

      @@thechasethompsonI'd have to search, same as you.

    • @misterdonwaters
      @misterdonwaters Před 2 měsíci

      This was what I always assumed. You don’t just go vigilante justice and not face consequences.

    • @caesarjergens
      @caesarjergens Před měsícem

      Except for the fact that NY agreed and a third, respected party, was present so this was not an act out of nowhere. The families don`t go to war without reason because when there is a war there a no earning and no-one is kicking up. In the end it is all about money and nothing else.

  • @FoolishFlock
    @FoolishFlock Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank yoy for this upload it was great!!!....

  • @saltybadger356
    @saltybadger356 Před 3 měsíci

    Doin a great job! Insightful funny commentary.

  • @stonedage5087
    @stonedage5087 Před 4 měsíci +12

    The NJ and the NY crew got together to take him out for sure.

  • @MrKoaz72
    @MrKoaz72 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Thank you that was great!

  • @djv164
    @djv164 Před 2 měsíci

    Hey this was a brilliant analysis!

  • @brettbaratheon9776
    @brettbaratheon9776 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I was driving home from work earlier so I could not make a comment. But I was listening. I was thinking about so many ways to comment on your video.
    You went maximum level on references in this video. You are always so good at sneaking them in. This may be, perhaps, the magnum opus of dialog inserts.
    Either way. Great video as always.

    • @datbtrue
      @datbtrue Před 4 měsíci +2

      Fucking Try-Hard ya ask me!

  • @DarthBlue13
    @DarthBlue13 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I always thought Patsy he definitely had the motive and he could easily take over given the marriage between Meadow and his son but ultimately Tony had to go no matter what his crew and New York couldn't have him at the table any longer.

  • @omidsarmad
    @omidsarmad Před 4 měsíci +6

    You say there wont be a preamble but spend the first five minutes saying nothing.

  • @WthIsThisRightHere
    @WthIsThisRightHere Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you, CineRanter. That was great.

  • @gigigigi4241
    @gigigigi4241 Před 4 měsíci

    Your soprano references, like (sun Tuh-tzu) or “going to into the unknown not knowing” make your videos epic!
    I love you like a brother in-law!!!!

  • @Tusc9969
    @Tusc9969 Před 4 měsíci +13

    IMO Little carmine was in on the tony hit with NY. You can see he was trying to warn and counsel tony the last time they talked but dramas and deaths seemed to be the norm with tony as acting boss of NJ. So, when you hear little carmine say "it didn't have to be this way..." at the final sitdown and then walk off with butchie after I knew they were gonna whack him. The truce would've been the perfect opportunity to whack him while his guard was down. The fact that the hit was in front of his family was payback for the hit on phil in front of his wife and grandkids.

    • @brobsty1856
      @brobsty1856 Před 4 měsíci

      Carm and AJ die too

    • @DH-xh3pg
      @DH-xh3pg Před 4 měsíci +1

      @brobsty1856 what makes you say that? That’s against the rules.

    • @Carmine_Lupertazzi
      @Carmine_Lupertazzi Před 4 měsíci +1

      Carmine stands on his own in his last scene. Doesn't walk off with anyone.

    • @Carmine_Lupertazzi
      @Carmine_Lupertazzi Před 4 měsíci

      ​@DH-xh3pg watch the Sopranos Superbowl commercial, and its breakdown.

  • @Lossandthepanda
    @Lossandthepanda Před 4 měsíci +5

    Thank you that was great

  • @mr_e_diceb4187
    @mr_e_diceb4187 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I like the vid, but one thing I have a problem with is, and I know your making a point, but the part where you reference Paulie asking “when it’s my time will I stand up”
    Is him asking himself if he ever has to go to jail for a long stretch, would he stay strong and do the time, or would he rat.
    This point was even brought up bye tony when he and him are in Florida on the lamb ….
    It’s paulie wondering if he would make the same choice as pusy bompensario
    (I know I mis spelled that) lol
    It’s a sceen that has him questioning his life choices
    Other than that, solid vid

  • @DarkSideOfTheBrightSide
    @DarkSideOfTheBrightSide Před 4 měsíci +14

    Tony never found out who was telling New York Family their business, and playing both sides.. also remember Paulie stating he’d do the hit, if they ever need him, when he said, “if Carmine needs anything, ANYTHING.. “
    Plus, Paulie was very bitter, and felt like he deserved a turn at the head of the table.. that’s why he gave Chris such a hard time, he knew Chris would be the next one due bloodline.

    • @QeepingItReal
      @QeepingItReal Před 15 dny

      i'm gonna tell you a couple of three things.
      tony clearly figured out it was paulie who leaked the fat joke to johnny sachs. in the episode where they go to florida to lay low.
      paulie clearly realized johnny sachs was playing him when carmine sr. didn't recognize him.

  • @smacwhinnie
    @smacwhinnie Před 4 měsíci +13

    Chris’s Mother did it. Chris was wearing a wired ball cap the last night he was driving Tony. FBI had video of Tony killing Chris, they showed it to Mrs. Moltisanti

  • @googlesucks8978
    @googlesucks8978 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dysentery in the ranks is one of my favorite words they fuck up throughout the show 😂

  • @vannmann9597
    @vannmann9597 Před 4 měsíci

    Nice analogy. Very nice! I thought the final scene was a way of portraying that he will always be looking behind his back.

  • @toneriggz
    @toneriggz Před 4 měsíci +12

    My theory is that it’s an Animal Blundetto type of a scenario (always with the scenarios). Some hitter upset by Phil getting clipped, going rogue and taking Tony out. Non sanctioned hit, pure revenge. I don’t think Butch would go back on his word but it’s possible he didn’t have control over every guy on the street. Ultimately it doesn’t matter, could’ve been anyone. What matters is that T got clipped and thus the story is done.

    • @mbeetroot8489
      @mbeetroot8489 Před 4 měsíci +1

      A relative of Eugene is my best guess, I 100% agree

    • @stevenspilly
      @stevenspilly Před 4 měsíci +1

      I don't think there was anyone left that really liked Phil enough to go rogue. Paulie's face when he left the Bing makes no sense unless he was plotting against Tony.

  • @egoborder3203
    @egoborder3203 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I always thought Paulie was involved. The show made a big deal of showing how their relationship deteriorated. Going from admiration and (mostly) loyalty to increasing resentment and undermining. Patsi is also a shoe-in as I don't think he ever forgave Tony for his brother and probably was aware that deep down Tony didn't trust him because of that. As for Butch, he personally wanted to kill Tony and it's likely New York would support him given Tony's state by end of the show

  • @Mishu-cd7xb
    @Mishu-cd7xb Před 4 měsíci

    love your sense of humor, all things considered

  • @user-jl3ex4ik1t
    @user-jl3ex4ik1t Před 4 měsíci

    Great video.

  • @TheRealFeechLaManna
    @TheRealFeechLaManna Před 4 měsíci +4

    Neither Paulie nor Patsy ever had any initiative in them. No real ambition. No doubt Butch and NY killed Tony as revenge plus that's what you get for killing a boss, but I see no reason to involve P&P.

  • @GeneralProfessor
    @GeneralProfessor Před 4 měsíci +3

    Is it just me or does the Members Only guy look strangely similar to Tony's father?

  • @DC-wh2yk
    @DC-wh2yk Před 4 měsíci

    love ur sopranos videos keep it going😊

  • @chrisairgood310
    @chrisairgood310 Před měsícem +2

    Patsy is part of plot. Paulie also. Tony was killed at the end. He never had the makings of a varsity athlete

  • @Duneek
    @Duneek Před 4 měsíci +6

    I think your "Members Only" explanation is the best. I don't think the other families would hold Tony at fault for Phil dying in a war Phil started, especially considering Tony's underboss is in a permanent coma and his brother-in-law and consigliere is dead as a result of that war. An official peace was made so I don't think it was New York.

    • @JGD714
      @JGD714 Před 4 měsíci +3

      You got those positions switched.

    • @Carmine_Lupertazzi
      @Carmine_Lupertazzi Před 4 měsíci +7

      Sil was consigliere, Bobby was underboss.

    • @Duneek
      @Duneek Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@JGD714 Good catch. I mixed them up

    • @stevenspilly
      @stevenspilly Před 4 měsíci +5

      Don't forget Tony was likely about to get arrested - again - because one of his top capos had agreed to testify. The risk of Tony cooperating would be enough for new York and what was left of his crew to re-evaluate. Tony was likely to be in jail awaiting trial, anyway, so why not get rid of him and eliminate the risk + get the soprano family working under new management. Or just absorb what was left.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@stevenspilly: Yes. The ending of "Casino" comes to mind

  • @littlekeithy
    @littlekeithy Před 4 měsíci +3

    I could agree with the theory except i don't think any of the three were boss material, and they would need to pass the killing of a boss by the other families. That's why Little Carmine is key as he could be the boss and cement the deal.
    However, there is a large fly in the ointment. Agent Harris tells Tony that he has an informant who said that Phil's out to get him. And at the stage of proceedings it looks like only Butchie and the Consigliere knew Phil's mind. So it could be that the Consigliere is going to have them all rounded up anyway (along with whatever Carlo says).

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite Před 4 měsíci

      Yes, and Little Carmine was much more inherent than people gave him credit for.

  • @pbr_and_b
    @pbr_and_b Před 4 měsíci +2

    You really really really do not need to give a full synopsis of The Sopranos every video. I think everyone has it by now

  • @daveyboy_
    @daveyboy_ Před 2 měsíci

    Awesome video

  • @jonasalves7492
    @jonasalves7492 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I had never thought about that dream with Silvio followed by killing Paulie... I think you combine that with the Cat Scene in the end, along with the fact that Paulie was not a loyal person... He was definitely involved

  • @metrobar3367
    @metrobar3367 Před 4 měsíci +19

    He did die. Chase referred to the scene as the death scene in an interview !! So it’s been confirmed.

    • @OriginalKenDoll
      @OriginalKenDoll Před 4 měsíci

      When did he say that?

    • @metrobar3367
      @metrobar3367 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@OriginalKenDoll in a daily mail interview. Won’t let me link

    • @codeallnight56514
      @codeallnight56514 Před 4 měsíci

      A likely story

    • @metrobar3367
      @metrobar3367 Před 4 měsíci

      @@codeallnight56514 not hard to search for it.

    • @metrobar3367
      @metrobar3367 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Coauthor Zoller Seitz instantly highlight the slip saying, ‘You realize, of course, that you just referred to that as a death scene’.
      ‘F*** you guys’, Chase answered.

  • @nc0gn3gr0
    @nc0gn3gr0 Před 4 měsíci

    I enjoy theese videos man

  • @Dungeon_of_Rap
    @Dungeon_of_Rap Před 4 měsíci +1

    *flatly* Thank you, that was great.

  • @russelltimmerman3771
    @russelltimmerman3771 Před 4 měsíci +3

    It was little Carmine. You see Carmine was only playing at being Fredo, he was really Michael lying low pretending to keep the peace until the perfect moment to settle all family business. Also to make sure Tony did not sing his guts out to the feds, which Tony definitely would.

  • @michaelparrella2151
    @michaelparrella2151 Před 4 měsíci +17

    Eugene whacked teddy spirodakis (TS) in a members only jacket. The members only jacket guy whacks tony soprano (TS). That’s a huge piece of evidence.

  • @edvvardo7278
    @edvvardo7278 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I will always repeat that:
    There was a TV preview of final season at Dailymotion, in which Paulie stopping car in woods at night, opening backtrack, and fat Tony hand is falling from trunk with characteristic golden watch on it. And Paulie was saying to the camera:
    - Will you be here? When death will come to our family?
    And after that TV lector was saying about last episodes of Soprano to be displayed.
    I was searching that all day, i regret there was no online downloaders for such websites back than, because for sure i would downloaded it 15 years ago. That video was holy grail in Sopranos theories, and it disappears

  • @djfacts9770
    @djfacts9770 Před 3 měsíci +1

    That 3 o'clock thing had Paulie on the boat with tony on that time. In the last scene with paulie they switched places which represents paulie always finding a way to dodge a bullet & be the last man standing from the columbo days

  • @18pablo88
    @18pablo88 Před 4 měsíci +17

    Remember Pauline survived by the skin of his nuts when that thing with the columbos went down

  • @sinane.y
    @sinane.y Před 4 měsíci +7

    That "sit on this" cut made me laugh like that time my father fell down the stairs

  • @champadin1755
    @champadin1755 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank you, that was great.

  • @KutWrite
    @KutWrite Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you. That was great!

  • @SumTimezTheyHaveClipUs
    @SumTimezTheyHaveClipUs Před 4 měsíci +4

    Agree 💯. However, why doesn't any of you guys bring up the key person that almost proves the hit was by them? Corky!! Why would Paulie and Patsy be talking with Corky at the bar? The guy who is linked to just about all top-level hits and setting them up? That's the key to the entire theory!!

    • @stevenspilly
      @stevenspilly Před 4 měsíci +1

      That's very insightful. The sacred and the propane.

    • @berry541
      @berry541 Před 4 měsíci

      Corky is easily my favorite minor character. I would a spinoff series about his life.

  • @PapiVanCrappy
    @PapiVanCrappy Před 4 měsíci +6

    If 99% of Sopranos fans come to agreement on how Tony died,... David Chase would say the opposite 🤣
    We're never getting closure guys.

  • @brendannardozzi5216
    @brendannardozzi5216 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The reason the NY hit men would have fired at Patsy is because he might not have been involved in the conspiracy - yet. After Carlo's son was arrested and Tony confronted Patsy about his own son's potential involvement, Patsy would have been way more likely to go against Tony. Timeline got f'd up.

  • @asymptoticspatula
    @asymptoticspatula Před 4 měsíci +3

    I just watched your Who Killed Tony Soprano? video like an hour ago! So weird that this one showed up today!

  • @johnnymoondog9474
    @johnnymoondog9474 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Patsy's piss and Paulie's ego brought us to this

  • @HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw
    @HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw Před 3 měsíci +1

    They should make a sequel with Meadow as state prosecutor figuring out who killed her father. Start it with a flash back to the diner where the screen went black. They could use fan theories for dead end leads lol. We need Meadow in a basement like Charlie from IASIP figuring out who Pepe Silvia was.

  • @lavawingsplays1627
    @lavawingsplays1627 Před 3 měsíci +1

    There is so much evidence of this being true that it actually amazes me how people can delude themselves into beleiving otherwise

  • @JayP7.62
    @JayP7.62 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I was thinking the same thing about the cat but both Christopher and Paulie were rats. Which is why the cats is attracted to both.

  • @MooreEducation
    @MooreEducation Před 4 měsíci +3

    Patsy killed Tony. Plain and simple. I can't see how anyone could think it was anyone else. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @wyldhowl2821
      @wyldhowl2821 Před 3 měsíci

      "It won't be cinematic."
      Well, given the last scene, I guess it wasn't ?

  • @mspionage1743
    @mspionage1743 Před měsícem

    Worst mistake Tony could have made was letting Butch live after all that. You make a good point, the guy was always going to come after Tony in the end, whether to save face or help himself raise to Boss in NYC. He had to go if Tony were to ever be safe as they could have never worked together. One had to go at least.

  • @GentlemanDre
    @GentlemanDre Před 4 měsíci

    Brilliant preambles!

  • @uncletrick1
    @uncletrick1 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I hope when you said “cause dysentery in the ranks” it was meant as a joke.

  • @GladbachCEO
    @GladbachCEO Před 4 měsíci +3

    It clearly was the vipers

  • @MomMom4Cubs
    @MomMom4Cubs Před 4 měsíci +3

    I think Tony may have died in the coma. His arc thereafter was almost nightmarelike in the way he not-quite purposely shed himself of his humanity in his feverish race to kill his soul before his body could die.

    • @alexiszaraza6673
      @alexiszaraza6673 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Maybe this you say is the "I get it!" moment Tony had in Vegas 🤔

  • @marshalz146
    @marshalz146 Před 4 měsíci

    Just started binge watching Sopranos again. Perfect timing, im on season 6b.

  • @NickDDDD
    @NickDDDD Před 4 měsíci

    It was that Animal.....Down with new original thinking & thoughtful analysis!