or maybe she's on the island with the other surviving humans but I doubt it because why would she leave Marcy. sooo she's probably dead, just not sure how she died.
When I first started watching AT, I did so because it was funny and out-of-the-box. I could've easily outgrown it, having been married and adulting and all that stuff, but the episodes just kept getting more and more profound. I just couldn't let it go. When Simon and Marcy aired, I cried so hard during Simon's song because it reminded me of what I had to deal with growing up with a grandfather with dementia. I don't know where I'm going with this. I just wanted to get it out of my system.
I dont think Marcy's dad ate her mother. I think Marcy's body as a half demon barely aged while her mother aged normally. Her dad left her with her mother and unfortunately her mother just got old and passed away, and since her father was in another dimension, he didn't know Marcy's mother died or that Marcy was alone. And then one day she randomly finds Simon who takes care of her in place of her father who thinks Marcy is still safe with her mother. We see the Hudson loves his daughter. Their are pictures of her everywhere and like all parents, he makes mistakes. But as he wanted Marcy to take over the Nightosphere in his place, that shows he thinks highly of his daughter and does respect her at least a little. If he knew Marcy was all alone in the human world Im sure he would have done something to make sure she was safe. Also, even though we as viewers don't know how Marcy's mother met her father, we can tell by Mother's tone of voice that she probably doesnt hate Hudson, and I think since their are no other kids to speak of, that Marcy and her mother are important to him, and he loves them very much. In my mind, the mystery woman in the third painting on the right in the Nightosphere, is probably another demon Hudson met and married, making her Marcy's step mother. That is something for the creators to dive into and I am excited for when they finally do.
I think Marceline's Mom was supposed to raise her, while Hunson ruled over the Nightosphere, until she was old enough. However, her mom dies as a result of the mushroom wars, and Hunson doesn't learn about this for a very long time (since they probably had planned to have Marceline raised as a human child until she was old enough to handle the truth,) If Hunson killed and/or ate his wife, why would he keep endearing pictures of her in his home? They were in love. He probably didn't know the mushroom wars were going on, since he resides over the Nightosphere, and would have gone mad with rage upon finding out his wife was killed and his child was missing. A rage he would have fed to that demon gem, that transforms the wearer into his bloated demonlord form (which he would likely have been in while in a grief-rage) ((Also why we see Finn turn into this enraged, weeping demon-thing when he uses the gem in Return to the Nightosphere) The fries incident could have just been Hunson being gluttonous, whereas Marceline is still half human and NEEDS to eat. She probably opened a portal to get her dad's help, since her mom had died, but feels betrayed because like I suggested, he ate her food out of desire (since demons don't need to eat or sleep) and this threatened her survival. Hunson would have gone back tot he nightosphere because 1-he cant be away for too long; 2- he doesn't understand how the mortal world works; and 3- He figures he will only continue to hinder Marceline if he stays, because he's worried he'll mess stuff up for her. As a demon though, he doesn't think to explain himself. He doesn't have to, he's a demon. That's just something they don't do. They still have feelings, and express themselves when they need to convey a message, but if they feel they don't need to, they wont. Demons are very calculating, and reserved...until angered.
I think when the mother started to notice a war was about to happend she send marceline away to her father!.. But after sometime marceline would want to see her mother again and maybe she ran away and went back to the other world and notice that the hole world was destroyed and she never found her mom. She was now stuck there and wouldn't know how to get back to her father and her father would be to busy to even notice she was gone not until many years later when the fry insistent happend. That's my theory anyway ( sorry for bad english.
Dude, I like your videos and the content is definitely comprehensive. However, you need to organize a little bit better. You're all over the place, repeating yourself and self contracting. As far as the "eating her mom" theory, I disagree. It's more likely that her mom died in the mushroom war. She is seen only before the war and Marcy is seen without a caretaker when Simon finds her. Simon then becomes her primary caretaker until he leaves due to the effects of his crown. At this point she is still younger than when Abadeer ate her fries. Simon says he'll "arrange for someone else to take care of her" but we don't know who he is referring too. Next we see Marcy in the diner with her dad eating the fries. We still have seen no evidence that her mom survived the war. Given that Marcy is part human, she needs to eat, while her father, a demon does not. The world is still a wasteland by this point, maybe 10 since the bomb, so food is hard to come by. Abadeer eats her fries, food that she needs and he doesn't. This cuts deep. It's the realization that he doesn't care about her well being.
Dr. Void I felt the same about the organization of this. i feel as if he reiterated on the lack of a bite mark on her well pay the point of it needing to be said. I cannot remember if her mother had made plans for Marcy but her being a victim of the war or even the mutants that came after it, he'll she could even be one depending on how you look at it. how sad it would be to know her mother made her daughter run away before she changed. But with her father...I'm reminded of that poem about a plum how the speaker confesses to eating someone's plum and to add insult to injury spike of how delicious it was. Marcy wanted those fries, they were hers, and her father whom she has rarely seen and questions if he cares about her wolfs them down without a thought about her wants and needs. it's a feeling that they care so little that they'll take from you without a thought.
I recon marcie was alone when simon found her because she was living with her mother in the human world while her father was working in the nightosphere. the bomb that was dropped contained a mutergen that only affected humans, thus killing marceline's mother. marcie survived unskaved because she is half demon and doesn't have regular human D.N.A that the mutergen could affect. simon survived for a similar reason, he dosen't have regular human D.N.A due to the crown slowly turning him in Evergreen. marceline feels abandoned by her father because he didn't leave the nightosphere to come help her after the dropping of the bomb and the death of her mother.
David Leek I'm planning to either write a story, or comic about Adventure Time while the bomb is being dropped. Can I use your theory and incorporate it into my story??
Did you even read the post you are responding to? The crown is corrupting and transforming Simon into a wizard, which is a distinct race and not human. By the time the bomb was dropped, he wasn't human enough to be affected anymore.
I wonder if Marceline hunting all the other Vampires had saved Finn's ancestors? Think about it. Marcy could be the reason why this is any humans left at all.
Happily Ever After Gaming If u talk about Susan strong and stakes survivors cloth looks same, they survived after left marceline in underground city and they worship fire, fearing that vampires come back... btw stunning video as always!!
Krystal Rossi I have a theory of it goes like this Simon Marcelines dad and a man I'll call Louie found the enchiridion and learned of magic Simon learned of the crown and went on to find it becoming ice king Marcelines dad found the amulet and took over the nightosphere but that third man learned of a powerful but dark magic and right before he used it.......boom the bomb went off mixing the powerful magic and the radiation creating....The Lich
You are correct. The Hierophant is where Marceline got her Shape-shifting abilities from. Marcelines only demon power is the Soul sucking and that is it. There is no "could be" in this situation.
Marceline's TImeline Theory: Marceline, being half human, still ages. Due to the fact that she is also half demon has lead me to believe that she ages at a considerably much slower rate than normal. As seen in the "Stakes" episodes, her aging only stopped because she became a vampire, leaving her to be a teenager for the past 1000 years. Marcy was still just a child around the time of the Mushroom War. She was seen crying alone helpless in the middle of the street until Simon emerged and comforted her with a stuffed animal. Obviously her being alone tells me that her mother was no longer with her, this I believe. Her mother may be gone but maybe not because Abadeer killed her, but Marcy simply out lived her. Sad thought I know. As time continued, the years pressed on and aged Marcy's mother, but not her. At least not in the same way. Marcy's half demon blood did not allow her to grow at the same rate as her mother did. Leaving Marcy to watch her mom grow old and ultimately die. Sad, lonely Marcy was left all on her own with no one to care for her. After sometime, maybe even years, after the death of her mother, the Great Mushroom War began. Thus leading into a new chapter in her life. Meeting Simon Petrikov. TL;DR: Marceline outlived her mom. > Years after mother's death, Mushroom War began. > Met Simon and got Hambo.
the dark theory can be true, because... as a being, somebody eating your fries wasnt that big deal. if her mother is the fries which is altered, that explains the deep feelings on the song
I don't think the fries is Marceline's mom specifically,i think the ONLY part of what's left of Marceline's mom is her blood that is used as ketchup for the fries
Valaree Sparks that's even more messed up. And I doubt blood can still remain fresh after 40 years. Plus, it was a bomb that killed her (probably) so I doubt there would be any blood laying around.
it's because there were very few foods in the city and she really needed to eat. While she is getting something to eat with, her dad saw that the fries were cold and didn't really think much of eating it. When she got back,her dad was in the middle of eating the fries, and seeing that she was hungry and not much food left for her it seems to her that her dad didn't really care about the food problems she's been having, and then she claims that her dad didn't care about her hunger and to an extent, her life.
I've heard a theory that the fries were one of the last things she had to eat, and since she was mortal, she needed it to survive, and that's why she felt betrayed?
Wait, m not quite wrapping my head around this. So, when Marcy was a young child, she lived with her mother. Where was Hunson? In the Nightosphere? Or with the woman seen in the painting in his house? Then the Mushroom War happened, and she stayed with Simon, AKA Ice King, because her mother was probably dead. Then, after Simon is gone, she becomes a vampire hunter, correct? And then the whole stakes thing happened.... But when did the 'fry' scene, or the murder scene of her mother', happen? Her mother was presumed dead during the Mushroom War, and she lost Simon then started hunting, where in that time did she get together with Hunson to 'eat fries', when in the scene she is showed to be about 12 or so, but when she was that old she definetly was still in the wreckage. So.. can I see a time line or something please?? DX I'm very confused
Mary Garcia when she was young she was with her mother and must if been until she either died cuz of the radiation or attacked by those weird glob monsters after the war and she was alone and thats when simon found her crying and to comfort her gave her the bear. She stayed with simon for a while and then the ice king thing happens and she must of drifted away and im gonna guess by the time it full takes him over shes a preteen. Now this is where things get fuzzy cuz it hasnt been shown when or how she finds her father but im gonna assume for now he finds hers and they spend time together as he gets to reaquaint himself with his little girl. Then the fry thing must of happened and as we know she gets upset about it and must of then decided she wants to wander alone and then this must be when she lived in the tree house, as she says she lived there before finn and jake apparently. so she grew and stayed in there which would explain those weird funny faces carved around the tree house which is what we know used as the portal to the nightosphere. Then while there this is when stakes happens and so on. Then later on as a vamp she meets ash and rebels like a teen and moves in with him in the cave house and then from then on is what we know.
OK that did not happen in the first episode we see the cave there was no house until we went back to the cave so that timeline with ash is not current at least for that part so yeah might want to watch that episode again so yeah cause the house was not there when Finn and Jake found the cave so yeah that is impossible for ash and marceline to live in a house that wasn't there when Finn and Jake discovered it
Hunson was probably a player, and when his wife found out she probably killed marcy's mom. But marcy ran away and later found simon. Main characters in Adventure time Parents are dicks...
I assumed Marceline was born from a ritual, her mom being human and her dad a demon, similar to Raven from Teen Titans.Which gave her the edge to fight and kill vampires, which became her purpose in the aftermath. Due to her demon heritage, she was able to syphon the power of the vampires, leading to her taking on different characterstics attributed to vampires, even if different, such as drinking RED instead of BLOOD. The rather arrogant vampires seem to revere and fear her as if she was higher on the supernatural echelon than them. Lastly I see Marceline as a precursor species to humanity, due to the obvious knowledge for the Esoteric, mythological, religious and archaeological, seen through out the series's inspirations. Within Humanity's own mythos she's of the BRONZE AGE a precursor to the HERO AGE which led into the IRON AGE. Today archaeological wonders such as Baalbeek, gobekli tepe and puma punku defy our understanding and in some cases, capabilities. Not only that tapping into LOVECRAFTIAN lore kinda suggests such potential timelines predating modern Humans. She strikes me as being very Gorgon in her attributes, and transforms into beasty-mode similar to the woman from "Lullaby" in the "Witcher 3" series, which is a reoccuring archetype across many cultures. You can also see this with BILLY who is clearly HERCULES, even possing his giant stature, in relation to precursor hominid species, and Humanity's idea for giants, even relating to Sasquatch compared against Babylonian hieroglyphs of them holding lions like pets. Vampire King adds to this, Finn the Human is special (Beyond being the reincarnation of a Creator Trckster God) but because Humans are a new species just now emerging in this world, as seen with Marceline encountering them in the wild or with Susan underground, seeming to be both primitive and tribal still. Finn is like a prototype avatar for humanity to follow. Its a world similar to ones shown in Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. At least that's how I've seen it.
People ASSUME the future due to the implication of technology and civilizations, yet, places like Mohenjo-daro of India exist, and there are archaeological discoveries, to many to list off, official and recognize even if anomalies that defy our academic timeline for history. Sooooooooooo... As a writer and creator, this "What ifs" ARE on the bubble right now and it is criculating the Zeitgeist, much like ideas involving Shadow Forms, Ancient Aliens or Universes / Realities colliding, I can totally see that being part of the inspiration that hooks such minds.
And Marceline dad eating her mom with "Fries: replacing the corpse does sound logical, even if far too dark for a show targeting to kids.Teens and adults maybe. Her mom probably picked up fast food, she was excited and walked in onm with this happening right before the explosion or close too. Manifestation of her father is probably tied to the conflict. Not to say its not for that reason. Sounds about right.
The show released that her mom was sick and dying and sent Marceline to a safe place. She got her vampire powers came from her attacking the vampire king. Her dad couldn’t leave the underworld cause of all the deaths due to the war and her mother could no longer stay with her dad cause the underworld had become to dangerous.Her mom is black and her dad is a demon king of the underworld.
I think it's very possible that her memory was changed. #1: Why would Marceline get so upset about someone eating her fries? (Yes, I know that's a weak argument). #2: Why would her dad eat her fries? Didn't he only drink blood/eat red things? Or, is that a vampire trait, not a demon trait?
Most likely a chance meeting, demons don't often reproduce in the normal fashion. Depending on what species you are talking about, it is very plausible that she started out as a snack or a victim, and for reasons unbeknownst to us, forcibly gave her a child, and for demons this is a major conflict being something dark self-serving that only wants to either destroy or feed itself, to have the notion of love even glimmer like a small piece of light, is absolutely terrifying to them. Eating her French fries aside the action of leaving her alone and her mother may have very well been the one act of love he actually brought to reality the small moment of love he felt for her mother and thus now transferring that to Marceline. As that small reminder of love. That is so fleeting for an immortal creature.
The main fault I find in that theory is that we see that picture in Daddy's Little Monster. If Hunson ate Marceline's mother, then who is that woman? (though I suppose he could have dated her THEN ate her). Though that woman does not look all that much like Marcie's mom as seen in stakes (maybe Hunson did something to demonifiy her too, so she would be immortal as well, then changed his mind and killed her.) Also on a side note do you think there is a connection between the fact that Marcie needs to eat the color red and the fact that so many of her shoes and boots are red. Does she like to keep an emergency snack around (somewhat tellingly, the one time she was in danger of starving to death, she was NOT wearing red shoes/boots) Or is it just a fashion choice, possibly inherited from her daddy (Hunson's boots are almost identical to one of Marcie's pairs and are the only part of his clothes (apart from his underwear) that are not part of the amulet, so maybe that pair of Marcie's boots was a gift from her dad.)
That is a really good point, and it would be smart, I can't believe you caught that! Nice Jeremy, you should email me at happilyeveraftergaming@gmail.com and maybe you could give me some more of your thoughts and theories!
I really hope the series will provide more incite into Marceline's mother. Also, she can shapeshift because she stole Hierophant's power to shapeshift. Stakes shows that she WAS bitten before the mushroom bomb, as the humans were departing on their ship she was bitten by the vampire king. Also, I have another theory that I strongly believe is true... you know how the humans said their equipment was going nuts and that they thought something big was going to happen so they sailed out on their ship? Remember the fish-like human-like creatures. Yeah. I think the mushroom bomb hit while they were on the ship(s), causing them to sink, and while in the water mutated into the fish-human-hybrids we've seen in a few episodes. Obviously the main thing that makes me think this (sort of like proof) is that the fish people wear animal hats, EXACTLY like the humans did because it protected them from vampire bites.
Tokoyami Not sure what mushroom bomb you're talking about (unless you mean the Lich Bomb) but Marceline was bitten several years after the Mushroom War. Also, I believe that the humans on the boat managed to make it across the ocean but some of them decided to hid in an underground bunker instead and later mutated into the Hyoomans. The ones who left managed to create a new human colony and that's where Martin fled from centuries later for some unknown reason.
more Leaning towards Marceline's mom dying or got separated from her during the apocalyptic disaster that occurred. With that in mind would make more sense why she was alone as a child and ended up with Simon. then when they were separated again she somehow found her father who taught her about soul sucking who ended up eating her actual fries that was a luxury after the apocalypse ( she and Simon did basically hunt for a can of soup) but due to their already strained relationship she left to hunt vampires and you know the rest
Maybe when marcy was around 3, the mushroom war started. All hell broke loose on earth and even in the nightosphere so hunson abandoned her to retain the chaos and such, that is why he went missing in marcys younger days. Her mother died because of the radiation that is why she is alone when simon found her or maybe vampires killed her mother thats why she help the last remaining humans against vampire.
I’m guessing that soon after she was born her mother ran away with her, they survived for a few years during the apocalypse but eventually her mother died, this left Marcy all by herself. I’m gonna say when she was three and she was just wandering the apocalyptic setting she found Simon. They stayed together for a few years but then Simon leave her with Hunson. Then when she’s 16-17 she starts hunting all the vampires and due to her soul sucking abilities can gain their powers when she does so. Eventually she gets bitten by the vampire king and becomes immortal. She then meets PB after that as well as Ashe but I’m not sure who she started dating first.
The problem with the her dad ate her mom thing is that she was a teen at that point, long after being looked over by Simon, so timeline wise it makes no sense. The real reason she was so upset is because it's more of a straw that broke the camel's back sort of thing. When children are often neglected by their adults they become overly sensitive to rejection. A child that is often left alone will have separation anxieties, and something as simple as their mom taking a shower will cause them the same level of terror as if she had left the house entirely for hours. This is because a child that is neglected has a higher hope and desire for affection. This is mostly due to the child imagining how they want their parents to treat them. Because Marceline has grown up with her father not only abandoning her, but manipulating her as well, when she does see him she is hyped up and wanting to be close, trust him, and have him love her like a good father should. During that time he shows he is only thinking of himself by eating her fries, which in her mind triggers all the abandoning and hurt emotions, which is a normal response from children who grew up in abuse or neglect. This is also pre leant in children in foster care who are not allowed to be with their parents, as they act out over tiny things such as a toy that resembles one they played with when they were home with their parents. They cling to something good, and to have her father take that from her so callously was actually a huge thing.
Also, he even says he didn't think it was a big deal because they were cold, and she states she was wanting to eat them. I doubt if he was eating her mom he would have waited until she was cold, and I doubt Marceline wanted to eat her mom.
Steven Dautel or it's becouse those fries are only the few foods that she could find without having to hunt, after her dad ate her fries, her dad doesn't really need food but marcie was really hungry, and thus she thought he doesn't care about her need for food, even though those fries were cold.
In the episode were you get to see the flashbacks of her mom, marceline says that her mom got really sick and she did cough a lot through the episode and she died right after she sent the message to marceline as it is shows her going quiet and dropping the phone afterwords
Interesting theory about transference from him eating her mother to fries, except she's older in that memory. older than when traveling with simon. plus he tends to eat souls rather than flesh. plus he remembered the fries and referred to them being cold and not very good. That being said, if the dream was altered the placement could have been as well, it could have been him eating her soul, he could have altered it (or even later used the guy to do it for him) and the cold could have referenced the soul. I think it's more likely she just died on the fallout.
I've always thought Mom's death was circumstantial because of war events. And maybe Abadeer ate her soul afterwards. The Fries song relates a history of the Father's absence, and sometimes it got me confused as what timeline was that. Guess this video's conclusion is the same as mine, and can help to dis-mystify Marceline's past to a bunch. Still, the show's got a lot of answers to give us about the MOM. Sometimes I wonder how that sweet woman winded up in a relationship with Abadeer! That maybe he might have forced her into it somehow.
I think Marceline froze in age around Bonnibells apparent age. So she had to have fought the Vampire King at around 18. Farm World Marceline was never bitten but still lived a really long time because she was half demon.
her mom died in the war and her dad left. ice king found her and when he left he some how told her dad to take care of her cause when he left he said ill get someone to take care of you who wont leave. which is how she got the fry memory then is left alone again. or something like that
I swear that last theory hands down, has to be true. because why would something so insignificant hold so much emotion. there are so many legends of demons impregnating women and then eating them to claim their souls. There should be an adventure time reboot for adult swim to show her past with a potential new boyfriend slowly gaining her trust which in turn shows more of not only her past but Ooo's dark history.
Maybe as Marcy is half human and at that time was not yet immortal, was tied to the basic human need to feed and in an apocalyptic world it was very difficult to find decent food, when she finally gets something and sees that she will not starve she trusts In his father to take care of a moment his only food, but as his father to not being human does not size the situation and out of curiosity he eats potato chips. Marcy feels betrayed to see that his father takes away the only sustenance to survive that he has, thus showing his lack of concern and disinterestedness
I won't lie it is a pretty good theory. Even though adventure time was mainly aimed towards kids and yet can still bring in a more mature and adult fan base I honestly can't say I wouldn't expect something like it.
Huntsman says the fries weren't even good "they were really cold." confirming they weren't a delusion of Marcy's to fill in the trauma of her moms death.
isn't it Marshalee (idk how to spell it). son of a demon, the vampire king. i mean it's not son of a demon AND the vampire king? ANd also I don't think Marceline's dad would eat yknow the mom of HIS daughter, I think it's most likely that since marceline's mom was human and they were together either before or during the Mushroom War, it is most likely that her mom could've died protecting which explains why Marceline was left alone when Simon found her. And abt the fries incident, in the episode It Came From The Nightosphere, her dad even said "those fries were cold anyway" and I don't think that could refer to...yknow the blood and inards but anyway that's what I think
i hope someone reads this - my theory on what happen to marcy's mom is this - when marcy was a child - did you all noticed where she was?? in a wreckage near a vehicle crying by her self - her being a demon was able to survive a certain incident - that being either the bomb going off or simon was going mad with power when he put on his crown. At that point everyone knows where this headed with marcy being taken care of by simon. -she can barely remember this incident and everything after because its BEEN TOO LONG over a thousand years
my theory is marsy as a kid was with her mom and her dad was doing work in the nightosperph when the mushroom war happened a bomb dropped her mother hid her in the house her mother died from the heat of the bomb the house was destroyed so she stared to cry because she couldn't find her in the debre and siman found her..............................
I feel like I'm listening to you read an essay... I'm interested in the subject, and you have great ideas and support, but I just don't like your style of presenting the information. May I suggest that you talk more like you would in person than in writing? That would make the video more enjoyable to watch, at least for me. Anyways, thanks for making this video :)
this is really good and the end blew my mind about changing her memory although she didn't get shape shift from being half demon she got it from on of the vampires she killed it showed in the episodes of her having to kill all the vampires again but other than that it was really good and made a lot of sense
My theory on Marceline's Mother is, she died from the radiation from the nuclear fallout. Marceline survived because she's half demon and was probably immune to the radiation. Marceline left her Mom because she became an oozer (as revealed in Marcy's Super Secret Scrapbook). Then Simon came along and saw a crying little girl wandering the wasteland alone. Simon was already going through emotions losing Betty so he watched over Marcy to make up for all the wrong he's done to Betty. Simon would later reunite Marcy with Hunson Abadeer because he found a note written by Marcy's Mother found in Marcy's pocket with the ritual to summon him right before his crown made him go completely insane!
I actually agree with the last theory though because that level of hurt and betrayal over fries wouldn't make sense and how she keeps coming back to the memory, and even immortalizing it through song.
I under stand feeling hurt and betrayed over some thing that unfortunately doesn't / wouldn't feel like a huge deal to others...this theory about Marceline singing about fries being a metaphor for some thing else entirely is a good theory but the song being "just" about fries could also really "just" be real pain over her father eating some thing that he could have and should have left alone. ( and in my opinion , that's ok too ...nothing wrong imo about a plot line that involves feeling betrayed over a demon eating fries when he does not really need to eat normal / mortal / human food while his half human daughter _does_ need to eat some thing like fries in order to live. To some it may seem silly to be that hurt / feeling that betrayed over it if it isn't a metaphor about some thing for some thing darker but it doesn't seem silly to me. ( even if it really is "just" over fries )
Great fan theory. I broke tears on the lyric "I can count your visits on my fingertips" and the notion that the other lyric could be "Daddy, why did you end my mum?"
It makes sense if he just altered that one memory to be less gruesome. Sometimes when something extremely traumatic happens to someone they'll be subject to memory blocks by their subconscious mind for their own sanity's preservation and protecting themselves from unbearable mental pain of reliving a traumatic event
My theory is that Marceline's mom died in the mushroom war. If her dad actually turned Marcy's mom into fries, how would she know that it's her mom. According to the song, "Daddy, why did you eat my fries", Marceline bought those fries. So after her mom died, Marceline was abandoned and then she met Simon. Simon took care of Marceline until she was in her teens. Marceline was saving people that survived the war, and she was killing vampires and sucking their essences. That's how she turned into a vampire. Any thoughts? Leave your opinions
My theory: I do not think Hudson ate Marceline's mother. In the episode, "It Came From the Nightosphere," after Finn had played Marceline's recording of the Fry song, Hudson turns around and says, "I love you, Marceline. Don't you ever doubt that." Even tears swell up in his eyes as he says that. Despite Hudson being a demon king, he still has the capability to love. If Hudson got a human pregnant, I'm sure he would have loved her and wouldn't have killed her nor eaten her. My theory is that, as a child, Marceline spent all her time with her mother, since her father was always gone on business trips. During the mushroom war, Marceline and her mother could have gotten separated. The mother, being human and having zero super natural powers, would have died in this situation. Marceline being half demon may have been more apt to life or death situations. Hudson could have been unaware of the war because of said business trips, hence he was unable to protect Marceline's mother. Simon could have just been that parental figure that Marceline came across that was willing to care for her. At that time Marceline did not have any other options, and I don't think she even had a way of contacting her father. Also, I believe if Ash were able to go into Marceline's memories and change them, wouldn't he have changed/erased the memory of him getting rid of Hambo so Marceline wouldn't leave him?
Happily Ever After Gaming Dude Marcy Was Bitten By The Vampire King You Need Watch That Episode But I Dont Now What Kind Of Episode Is That And I Saw The Episode That Marcy Her Bite By The Vampire King And The Tiny Villigers Trap Marcy And Then She Was Hit By The Sunlight But She Didnt Died Her Bite By The Vampire King Was Gone. Thats All.
My cousin said : " Adventure time is just a bunch of mad crazy stuff, there's no proper past, all the episodes are just people messing about. I replied with Simons ( or ice kings), Marcelene, princess bubblegum, Betty and the history of oo.
TL;DR: Is good, but the main issue in the video is organization. You covered pretty much all of the main points about Marceline's origins, so I don't feel like any points are missing in this video. However the way it's organized is a bit distracting. A lot of the same stuff is repeated at random points during the video, and ignoring points that were made earlier. For example, you comment on reasons why young Marceline was safe in the daylight instead of burning, and then speculated that it COULD be because she wasn't a vampire yet, even though earlier in the video you established that she was in fact, not a vampire until she was older. If I could describe it, it sounds like all the points of this video were written down, as the information became available (after each of these episodes aired), but then not revised and put into context of the new information that was given afterwards. And then all the points were put in the video in random order. Maybe one issue might be that a little TOO much information is being presented in one video, and many conflicting pieces of information are being interpreted at once, so it makes it hard to follow. It's not your fault at all that people involved in the show may give out conflicting information. But, what is in the show is canon in the universe. So even though Pen ward said before that Marceline was a vampire before the war, the idea was changed, and that is no longer true. Just like how in the pilot, our hero's name was Penn and they changed it to Finn later. Aw geez. This comment got real long real fast. I hope I don't sound too rude or anything, and I don't mean anything personal. I'm trying to do constructive criticism, but apologies if it comes off the wrong way. The video is still good in that it covers a lot of important lore about the character, and includes cool extra little bits of information as well. I hope my comment doesn't bother anybody, and I hope it's helpful or something. Sorry I accidentally wrote this essay of a comment.
Candlehand No, your comment wasn't a bother. The fact that it's so long is a good thing, it means that you covered and explained a lot of stuff really well. I'm glad you went and took the time to express this stuff and explain how this video could be better. I think it's pretty useful, and explains to the creator of this video how to make their future videos better and fix their future mistakes. And anyone else reading this comment could fix and improve their own videos. Thanks for putting so much effort and time into making this; it's really useful, and kind of you. Making it long and putting in the effort to explain so much is really helpful.
I think it's entirely possible that in the fry song, she replaced her mother with fries, maybe as to not tell Finn everything from the beginning. I'm sure, even for Marceline, that'd be a difficult thing to explain to Finn, so instead, she just replaced it with fries. Or as you said, someone tried to replace her memory or disrupt it, but it was too strong a memory, so it was instead altered. but what if she just repressed the part about her mother being eaten? why does magic have to be the reason she says fries? What if she just couldnt visualize her father devouring her mother everytime she looked at him, so he changed her memory... which is entirely possible. it's proven that reflecting too much on specific memories can make them a little more vague. Maybe she only remembers that she was upset, but she can't believe that her father actually ate her mother, and so she repressed it subconsciously, but the feeling of disgust for her father was there, so the memory was only distorted, not her emotions for her father. idk. just a thought of your theory, but with a little twist.
But the thing is. Mar's mom died when she was very young. The fry song was set when she was a teen. I highly doubt the king knew about the war the family was split up and since Mar was more human she stayed with her mom. It wouldn't make sense, Mar's dad would have ate his former love in front of Mar when she was a kid. That's impossible.
The way you wrote this episode went in circles. You already mentioned that Marcelline was still half-demon and not a vampire during the scene with the fries, and then in the second half, you return to that mentioning that Marcelline ate fries even though vampires do not eat that. You've already cleared up some stuff but you tend to reiterate them, and it just goes around like this and in that entire 12 minutes half of it was a reiteration of something you had just explained. Hope you could improve on this. I otherwise liked the video and I think you explain things well.
This theory seems likely that Marceline's mom was eaten by her father and replaced with fries in her memories but why would her OWN father eat his mortal wife?
But the years and ages are different. Why eat the mother of your child? Mar's mom died when she was a child. So unless she seen her dad grubbing on her mom as a child than no way.
Well, obviously all that anyone has is a theory of Marceline and her parents. Adventure Time seems to not display anymore origins about her background, nor the rest of the main characters. Hmm, I'm hoping that AT does reveal a bit more solidified evidence, for the main characters before this Show comes to an end in 2018...we'll see though.
This makes no sense. Demons were just going around falling in love with mortals before the Lich even existed? So how on earth did Marcy have fangs and pointy ears in a normal non-apocalyptic setting? I think the best possibility is Marcy didn’t have fangs or pointy ears and probably wasn’t even pale as a kid, the memories just faded that detail in Marcy’s head, and Hunson isn’t even related to Marcy. He’s a deranged demon who thinks Marcy is his daughter. Marcy formed some sort of bond with him and that’s why she calls him “dad”.
Actually, no. Marcelina got her shapeshifting abilities from one of the vampires in the Stakes! series. If you'll watch it, the 'old fashioned revenant' as Peppermint Butler calls him, Heirophant, has the ability to shapeshift, and Marceline loses this power when she has Bonnabelle remove her vampire essence, regaining it when she sucks Heirophant's soul.
Also, I don't think it's too far to say that Hunsen might've eaten Marceline's mother. After all, we've seen adventure time go down some dark roads before, and turn them into something funny or quirky, or just attention-grabbing. Things like kidnapping, stalking, and sexual harassment with the Ice King, neglect and abandonment with Finn's dad, etcetera.
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Happily Ever After Gaming I have a Theory maybe Marceline's farther wanted to have a child not a wife just like in teen Titans Raven's farther wanted a child but did not care about the mother maybe Marceline's farther could have ate the mother because he just wanted a child
Faye K's theory is to far off.. I believe Marceline was like a Rosemary"s baby.. In the plot of Rosemary's Baby, Mia Farrow is pregnant with Satan's baby and not by choice.. Also, her mother resembles the actress who played on Rosemary's Baby the TV show, Zoe Saldana.. This show is known for it's references to Occultism and older horror movies which Rosemary's Baby is both.. I think maybe her mom was more wanting/willing to have the Ruler of the Nightosphere's spawn considering she raised Marceline up to the point of the Lich bomb or Mushroom War..
Okay, I have an alternate theory to her over reaction at the french fries thing: Marceline's reaction reads to me as hostile grief. Hostile grief is sometimes called 'angry grief', and there are a lot of manifestations, but the one I'm thinking of is when you feel angry at other people who remain, when someone you loved more is lost to you. This can happen to people who lose the parent they considered more loving, caring, and who was always there for them. When the parent who remains does something that feels like a betrayal, it can feel like that much more of a betrayal. every little pretty slight they do towards you feels magnified because they are the one who you have left, and not [other parent] This can be added to by rose coloured retrospective believing that the one who you miss wouldn't hurt you like the remaining parent did. (Picture Marc thinking "WTF, Mom would NEVER eat my french fries! Why is she gone and YOU'RE HERE!" and you start to get the picture) For kids who lose a parent young this kind of reaction can become ingrained as a method with which they interact with the remaining parent, meaning they forever feel slighted more easily, and Marceline is almost definitively lost her mother during childhood. (She survived as an old wrinkly lady to 1000, no matter how fast/slow she ages as a vampire, she definitely ages was slower than humans even prior to that. Her mother actually could have died of natural causes while Marc was still a child if Marc ages slowly enough.) So, I know for someone who has never lost anyone maybe this kind of seems bananas. I hear you, but grief really does make you feel bananas, sometimes for a very long time after the loss. Also I should tell you, I speak from experience. I lost a parent, (and I'm an adult btw, if I was a child living with either parent at the time I think it'd be worse.) The parent I have left did petty things while the wound was fresh (and Marecline ages slowly, so I can't help but feel she'd mature slowly emotionally too, and that means having emotional wounds heal slower too), and my emotional response was definitely disproportionate to what they'd done. Because grief over someone you loved who loved you, really fking f-cks with you.
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i think what you said is kinda obvious.i think the only parts you were wrong was about marceline shape shifing,immortality and healing...she's not immortal because she's a vampire, she's immortal because she absorbed the soul of that specific vampire that's immortal. Same goes for her shapeshifting and healing. Basically her ONLY original power was to absorb souls and take their abilities. On a side note, the writers of adventure time make stuff up as they go along so i don't even bother theorising anymore. There are many radical theories out there like about how susan strong could be finns mom or how betty could be princess bubblegum which would explain why he likes her so much but that was disproven because there are photos of PB as a child in the castle as well as her having a brother and what not. Anyway for me season 6 kinda jummped the shark with the whole ogerlorg thing..i was very dissapointed especially after they heavily implid that gunter used to be some weird small talking dinosaur thing in that "Dream" ice king had. Then they also use reencarnation too much so there's no real consistency. Like how shoko (the chick with no arm) was reincarnated as finn.
marcy is a hybrid and ice king at the moment becoming less and less human.... the mushroom war most-likely killed almost all the humans, which is why marcy's mom is gone, her father having to stay in the nightoshere probably did not realize what had happened considering the family was split up, leaving marcy to be on her own till ice king came
Happily Ever After Gaming If u talk about Susan strong and stakes survivors cloth looks same, they survived after left marceline in underground city and they worship fire, fearing that vampires come back... btw stunning video as always!!
The theory about Marcelines father eating her mother dosen't have sense - i remember, that in one of episodes he was asked about his absence in Marceline's childhood (or something like this) and he replied ,,she was supposed to be with her Mother".
I really appreciate the effort and time you put into these videos. You're very eloquently spoken and I enjoy listening to your videos. Some constructive criticism though is you repeat yourself a lot. So over all with a little restructuring and some editing your videos would easily be some of my favorite to watch. You're doing great so far so keep up the good work :)
You are totally right, this video was a mess, I'm surprised it has the views that it has, it really was bad. lol. I made a follow up Marceline video you can find on my channel that is LEAGUES better than this. Thanks for taking your time to tell me your thoughts!
I think that Marceline and her mom survived the Mushroom war because as seen in the background when Marcy flashbacks to a memory with her mother that their house is a wreck (or maybe they just lived like that?) but they also seem to live in a dessert or beach which may be because they were hiding from something? Maybe Hudson Abedeer protected them and took them in to the Nightosphere while the explosion happened, therefore led them to survive. Afterwards while her mother was protecting her she may have died because of those green globs/zombies? killed her and Marceline was left to survive by herself and Simon took her in and the rest is history
She's a half demon. She gained her powers through staking other vampires. She was bitten by the Vampire King.
@prxncess It does lol
Yeah
That doesn't really answer my main question was how did her mom meet her dad
She might have summoned him herself and wished for a child. A bit of a cliche, but a classic concept nonetheless.
But her dad is a vampire
There should be a whole separated show just following Marceline Abedeer from her childhood to now.
qwerty qwerty spinoff*
qwerty qwerty I said the same thing
qwerty qwerty I would love to see Simon progress through their adventures. Slowly losing his sanity.
Luckiverse Marceline meeting Princes Bubblegum for the first time would also be interesting to witness.
qwerty qwerty Yeah.
I think her mom just died like the other humans because of the war. it just seems unlikely that her memories were replaced and her dad did it.
+Animated Awesome perhaps
Happily Ever After Gaming
i came in this video normal and left drained. this is some deep stuff
Animated Awesome OR MAYBE HER MOTHER DIED ON A ACCIDENT LIKE THOSE ZOMBIE THINGIES THAT HAVE GOOS AND BIG HOLES
KENTONO TUMULAK maybe that is a possibility
or maybe she's on the island with the other surviving humans but I doubt it because why would she leave Marcy. sooo she's probably dead, just not sure how she died.
When I first started watching AT, I did so because it was funny and out-of-the-box. I could've easily outgrown it, having been married and adulting and all that stuff, but the episodes just kept getting more and more profound. I just couldn't let it go. When Simon and Marcy aired, I cried so hard during Simon's song because it reminded me of what I had to deal with growing up with a grandfather with dementia. I don't know where I'm going with this. I just wanted to get it out of my system.
Hey, we're here to listen.
RLo RN I feel you my grandpa has that too.
Happily Ever After Gaming Thanks, you guys...
RLo RN you welcome :)
+RLo RN no problem at all
I dont think Marcy's dad ate her mother. I think Marcy's body as a half demon barely aged while her mother aged normally.
Her dad left her with her mother and unfortunately her mother just got old and passed away, and since her father was in another dimension, he didn't know Marcy's mother died or that Marcy was alone. And then one day she randomly finds Simon who takes care of her in place of her father who thinks Marcy is still safe with her mother.
We see the Hudson loves his daughter. Their are pictures of her everywhere and like all parents, he makes mistakes. But as he wanted Marcy to take over the Nightosphere in his place, that shows he thinks highly of his daughter and does respect her at least a little.
If he knew Marcy was all alone in the human world Im sure he would have done something to make sure she was safe.
Also, even though we as viewers don't know how Marcy's mother met her father, we can tell by Mother's tone of voice that she probably doesnt hate Hudson, and I think since their are no other kids to speak of, that Marcy and her mother are important to him, and he loves them very much.
In my mind, the mystery woman in the third painting on the right in the Nightosphere, is probably another demon Hudson met and married, making her Marcy's step mother. That is something for the creators to dive into and I am excited for when they finally do.
Kayla the painting is probably just an old design that they later scrapped once they decided how they wanted Marceline's mom too
Kayla OR maybe the mystery woman is her grandmother or something
Kayla this was better than the video itsself
lol too bad they ended the show
Victor Oyeneye I was gonna say the same
I think Marceline's Mom was supposed to raise her, while Hunson ruled over the Nightosphere, until she was old enough. However, her mom dies as a result of the mushroom wars, and Hunson doesn't learn about this for a very long time (since they probably had planned to have Marceline raised as a human child until she was old enough to handle the truth,)
If Hunson killed and/or ate his wife, why would he keep endearing pictures of her in his home? They were in love.
He probably didn't know the mushroom wars were going on, since he resides over the Nightosphere, and would have gone mad with rage upon finding out his wife was killed and his child was missing. A rage he would have fed to that demon gem, that transforms the wearer into his bloated demonlord form (which he would likely have been in while in a grief-rage)
((Also why we see Finn turn into this enraged, weeping demon-thing when he uses the gem in Return to the Nightosphere)
The fries incident could have just been Hunson being gluttonous, whereas Marceline is still half human and NEEDS to eat.
She probably opened a portal to get her dad's help, since her mom had died, but feels betrayed because like I suggested, he ate her food out of desire (since demons don't need to eat or sleep) and this threatened her survival.
Hunson would have gone back tot he nightosphere because 1-he cant be away for too long; 2- he doesn't understand how the mortal world works; and 3- He figures he will only continue to hinder Marceline if he stays, because he's worried he'll mess stuff up for her. As a demon though, he doesn't think to explain himself. He doesn't have to, he's a demon. That's just something they don't do. They still have feelings, and express themselves when they need to convey a message, but if they feel they don't need to, they wont. Demons are very calculating, and reserved...until angered.
What ep does it show hunsen abadeer having pictures of his wife?
I think when the mother started to notice a war was about to happend she send marceline away to her father!..
But after sometime marceline would want to see her mother again and maybe she ran away and went back to the other world and notice that the hole world was destroyed and she never found her mom. She was now stuck there and wouldn't know how to get back to her father and her father would be to busy to even notice she was gone not until many years later when the fry
insistent happend. That's my theory anyway ( sorry for bad english.
That is a good theory
I like this theory
10 min of repeating the same information in different ways.
RegularJoeProductions Isnt that what life is?
Sir Charizard deep shit man
that's called gathering evidence
Tru
@@sircharizard2831 It repeats when we don't learn anything, and when we learn something from that situation were able to grow and prosper.
Dude, I like your videos and the content is definitely comprehensive. However, you need to organize a little bit better. You're all over the place, repeating yourself and self contracting.
As far as the "eating her mom" theory, I disagree. It's more likely that her mom died in the mushroom war. She is seen only before the war and Marcy is seen without a caretaker when Simon finds her. Simon then becomes her primary caretaker until he leaves due to the effects of his crown. At this point she is still younger than when Abadeer ate her fries. Simon says he'll "arrange for someone else to take care of her" but we don't know who he is referring too. Next we see Marcy in the diner with her dad eating the fries. We still have seen no evidence that her mom survived the war. Given that Marcy is part human, she needs to eat, while her father, a demon does not. The world is still a wasteland by this point, maybe 10 since the bomb, so food is hard to come by. Abadeer eats her fries, food that she needs and he doesn't. This cuts deep. It's the realization that he doesn't care about her well being.
Dr. Void yea i agee
Dr. Void I felt the same about the organization of this. i feel as if he reiterated on the lack of a bite mark on her well pay the point of it needing to be said.
I cannot remember if her mother had made plans for Marcy but her being a victim of the war or even the mutants that came after it, he'll she could even be one depending on how you look at it. how sad it would be to know her mother made her daughter run away before she changed.
But with her father...I'm reminded of that poem about a plum how the speaker confesses to eating someone's plum and to add insult to injury spike of how delicious it was. Marcy wanted those fries, they were hers, and her father whom she has rarely seen and questions if he cares about her wolfs them down without a thought about her wants and needs. it's a feeling that they care so little that they'll take from you without a thought.
Agreed
I always thought that she accidentally sucked her mother's soul with her soul sucking ability
Dr. Void actually your right but the theory was still pretty good but maybe the theory is correct
I recon marcie was alone when simon found her because she was living with her mother in the human world while her father was working in the nightosphere. the bomb that was dropped contained a mutergen that only affected humans, thus killing marceline's mother. marcie survived unskaved because she is half demon and doesn't have regular human D.N.A that the mutergen could affect. simon survived for a similar reason, he dosen't have regular human D.N.A due to the crown slowly turning him in Evergreen. marceline feels abandoned by her father because he didn't leave the nightosphere to come help her after the dropping of the bomb and the death of her mother.
wow well made.
David Leek I'm planning to either write a story, or comic about Adventure Time while the bomb is being dropped. Can I use your theory and incorporate it into my story??
Best theory NA
but how did Simon survive he is human
Did you even read the post you are responding to? The crown is corrupting and transforming Simon into a wizard, which is a distinct race and not human. By the time the bomb was dropped, he wasn't human enough to be affected anymore.
Daddy Why Did You Eat My mom sounds catchy
hahaha!!
Her mother actually death because of sick
Well Marcy,when two adults like each other>>>>
The fact that Marceline is half black, makes me so happy ✨✨💖
I wonder if Marceline hunting all the other Vampires had saved Finn's ancestors? Think about it. Marcy could be the reason why this is any humans left at all.
+Krystal Rossi good point
Happily Ever After Gaming XD
Happily Ever After Gaming If u talk about Susan strong and stakes survivors cloth looks same, they survived after left marceline in underground city and they worship fire, fearing that vampires come back... btw stunning video as always!!
Yes, that's kinda true.
Krystal Rossi I have a theory of
it goes like this
Simon Marcelines dad and a man I'll call Louie
found the enchiridion and learned of magic
Simon learned of the crown and went on to find it becoming ice king
Marcelines dad found the amulet
and took over the nightosphere
but that third man learned of a powerful but dark magic
and right before he used it.......boom the bomb went off mixing the powerful magic
and the radiation
creating....The Lich
I hope Adventure time shows an episode about Marcy's parents.
I'm not sure if they will.
Happily Ever After Gaming yeah.. AT can be full of filler most of the time. but one can hope.
They won't/cant 😂
@@HappilyEverAfterGaming I have a little surprise for you guys
They did :)
You should call this Explanation Time
Good idea!
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I am pretty sure that Marceline's shapeshifting ability comes from the vampire hydrophant
could be
it is
You are correct. The Hierophant is where Marceline got her Shape-shifting abilities from. Marcelines only demon power is the Soul sucking and that is it. There is no "could be" in this situation.
nah... is. check stakes mini-series again.
Right, there doesn't even need to be any speculation lol. This is common vampire lire anyway, that vampires can shape shift.
Let's go to the garden, you'll find something waiting :")
Right there where you left it, laying upside down
when you finally find it, you'll see how it's faded
The underside is lighter, when you turn it around
everything stays right where u left it everything stays but it still changes ever so slightly daily and nightly when everything stays
man I missed the lyrics chain :(
Marceline's TImeline Theory:
Marceline, being half human, still ages. Due to the fact that she is also half demon has lead me to believe that she ages at a considerably much slower rate than normal. As seen in the "Stakes" episodes, her aging only stopped because she became a vampire, leaving her to be a teenager for the past 1000 years.
Marcy was still just a child around the time of the Mushroom War. She was seen crying alone helpless in the middle of the street until Simon emerged and comforted her with a stuffed animal. Obviously her being alone tells me that her mother was no longer with her, this I believe.
Her mother may be gone but maybe not because Abadeer killed her, but Marcy simply out lived her. Sad thought I know. As time continued, the years pressed on and aged Marcy's mother, but not her. At least not in the same way. Marcy's half demon blood did not allow her to grow at the same rate as her mother did. Leaving Marcy to watch her mom grow old and ultimately die. Sad, lonely Marcy was left all on her own with no one to care for her. After sometime, maybe even years, after the death of her mother, the Great Mushroom War began. Thus leading into a new chapter in her life. Meeting Simon Petrikov.
TL;DR: Marceline outlived her mom. > Years after mother's death, Mushroom War began. > Met Simon and got Hambo.
Oh nvm. It's already been addressed... Hehe..
well she remembered the fry memory when she was a young teen not when she was a little kid, so I don't think so
there are two things i realy like
1.Adventure time
2. Darksoul
now guess how is combining that stuff?
is it, awesome?
Happily Ever After Gaming of course oh and the Marceline theory is really nice
Thanks mate!
Der Kaffeenator i think its the true theory
the dark theory can be true, because... as a being, somebody eating your fries wasnt that big deal. if her mother is the fries which is altered, that explains the deep feelings on the song
I don't think the fries is Marceline's mom specifically,i think the ONLY part of what's left of Marceline's mom is her blood that is used as ketchup for the fries
Valaree Sparks that's even more messed up. And I doubt blood can still remain fresh after 40 years. Plus, it was a bomb that killed her (probably) so I doubt there would be any blood laying around.
It makes sense when you mention it
it's because there were very few foods in the city and she really needed to eat. While she is getting something to eat with, her dad saw that the fries were cold and didn't really think much of eating it. When she got back,her dad was in the middle of eating the fries, and seeing that she was hungry and not much food left for her it seems to her that her dad didn't really care about the food problems she's been having, and then she claims that her dad didn't care about her hunger and to an extent, her life.
I've heard a theory that the fries were one of the last things she had to eat, and since she was mortal, she needed it to survive, and that's why she felt betrayed?
Makes sense to me
Wait, m not quite wrapping my head around this. So, when Marcy was a young child, she lived with her mother. Where was Hunson? In the Nightosphere? Or with the woman seen in the painting in his house? Then the Mushroom War happened, and she stayed with Simon, AKA Ice King, because her mother was probably dead. Then, after Simon is gone, she becomes a vampire hunter, correct? And then the whole stakes thing happened.... But when did the 'fry' scene, or the murder scene of her mother', happen? Her mother was presumed dead during the Mushroom War, and she lost Simon then started hunting, where in that time did she get together with Hunson to 'eat fries', when in the scene she is showed to be about 12 or so, but when she was that old she definetly was still in the wreckage. So.. can I see a time line or something please?? DX I'm very confused
Mary Garcia when she was young she was with her mother and must if been until she either died cuz of the radiation or attacked by those weird glob monsters after the war and she was alone and thats when simon found her crying and to comfort her gave her the bear. She stayed with simon for a while and then the ice king thing happens and she must of drifted away and im gonna guess by the time it full takes him over shes a preteen.
Now this is where things get fuzzy cuz it hasnt been shown when or how she finds her father but im gonna assume for now he finds hers and they spend time together as he gets to reaquaint himself with his little girl. Then the fry thing must of happened and as we know she gets upset about it and must of then decided she wants to wander alone and then this must be when she lived in the tree house, as she says she lived there before finn and jake apparently. so she grew and stayed in there which would explain those weird funny faces carved around the tree house which is what we know used as the portal to the nightosphere. Then while there this is when stakes happens and so on. Then later on as a vamp she meets ash and rebels like a teen and moves in with him in the cave house and then from then on is what we know.
mmmmm'kay, I understand now ^^ thanks
OK that did not happen in the first episode we see the cave there was no house until we went back to the cave so that timeline with ash is not current at least for that part so yeah might want to watch that episode again so yeah cause the house was not there when Finn and Jake found the cave so yeah that is impossible for ash and marceline to live in a house that wasn't there when Finn and Jake discovered it
Hunson was probably a player, and when his wife found out she probably killed marcy's mom. But marcy ran away and later found simon. Main characters in Adventure time Parents are dicks...
Cathy Nifong it wasnt that house it was a trailer
I assumed Marceline was born from a ritual, her mom being human and her dad a demon, similar to Raven from Teen Titans.Which gave her the edge to fight and kill vampires, which became her purpose in the aftermath.
Due to her demon heritage, she was able to syphon the power of the vampires, leading to her taking on different characterstics attributed to vampires, even if different, such as drinking RED instead of BLOOD.
The rather arrogant vampires seem to revere and fear her as if she was higher on the supernatural echelon than them.
Lastly I see Marceline as a precursor species to humanity, due to the obvious knowledge for the Esoteric, mythological, religious and archaeological, seen through out the series's inspirations.
Within Humanity's own mythos she's of the BRONZE AGE a precursor to the HERO AGE which led into the IRON AGE.
Today archaeological wonders such as Baalbeek, gobekli tepe and puma punku defy our understanding and in some cases, capabilities.
Not only that tapping into LOVECRAFTIAN lore kinda suggests such potential timelines predating modern Humans.
She strikes me as being very Gorgon in her attributes, and transforms into beasty-mode similar to the woman from "Lullaby" in the "Witcher 3" series, which is a reoccuring archetype across many cultures.
You can also see this with BILLY who is clearly HERCULES, even possing his giant stature, in relation to precursor hominid species, and Humanity's idea for giants, even relating to Sasquatch compared against Babylonian hieroglyphs of them holding lions like pets. Vampire King adds to this,
Finn the Human is special (Beyond being the reincarnation of a Creator Trckster God) but because Humans are a new species just now emerging in this world, as seen with Marceline encountering them in the wild or with Susan underground, seeming to be both primitive and tribal still.
Finn is like a prototype avatar for humanity to follow.
Its a world similar to ones shown in Lord of the Rings and Star Wars.
At least that's how I've seen it.
People ASSUME the future due to the implication of technology and civilizations, yet, places like Mohenjo-daro of India exist, and there are archaeological discoveries, to many to list off, official and recognize even if anomalies that defy our academic timeline for history.
Sooooooooooo... As a writer and creator, this "What ifs" ARE on the bubble right now and it is criculating the Zeitgeist, much like ideas involving Shadow Forms, Ancient Aliens or Universes / Realities colliding, I can totally see that being part of the inspiration that hooks such minds.
And Marceline dad eating her mom with "Fries: replacing the corpse does sound logical, even if far too dark for a show targeting to kids.Teens and adults maybe.
Her mom probably picked up fast food, she was excited and walked in onm with this happening right before the explosion or close too.
Manifestation of her father is probably tied to the conflict.
Not to say its not for that reason. Sounds about right.
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That sounds intense...
The show released that her mom was sick and dying and sent Marceline to a safe place. She got her vampire powers came from her attacking the vampire king. Her dad couldn’t leave the underworld cause of all the deaths due to the war and her mother could no longer stay with her dad cause the underworld had become to dangerous.Her mom is black and her dad is a demon king of the underworld.
I see that lewd photo of Marceline you put in there.
+guy Farting lewdity
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Wut
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I think it's very possible that her memory was changed. #1: Why would Marceline get so upset about someone eating her fries? (Yes, I know that's a weak argument). #2: Why would her dad eat her fries? Didn't he only drink blood/eat red things? Or, is that a vampire trait, not a demon trait?
Courtney Poston that is a vampire thing not a demon thing
Good questions!
Most likely a chance meeting, demons don't often reproduce in the normal fashion. Depending on what species you are talking about, it is very plausible that she started out as a snack or a victim, and for reasons unbeknownst to us, forcibly gave her a child, and for demons this is a major conflict being something dark self-serving that only wants to either destroy or feed itself, to have the notion of love even glimmer like a small piece of light, is absolutely terrifying to them. Eating her French fries aside the action of leaving her alone and her mother may have very well been the one act of love he actually brought to reality the small moment of love he felt for her mother and thus now transferring that to Marceline. As that small reminder of love. That is so fleeting for an immortal creature.
Gwyneth Lovefirewind In lore plenty of demons have relations with humans. Bit hard to go into explicit details on a cartoon vid though.
The main fault I find in that theory is that we see that picture in Daddy's Little Monster. If Hunson ate Marceline's mother, then who is that woman? (though I suppose he could have dated her THEN ate her). Though that woman does not look all that much like Marcie's mom as seen in stakes (maybe Hunson did something to demonifiy her too, so she would be immortal as well, then changed his mind and killed her.)
Also on a side note do you think there is a connection between the fact that Marcie needs to eat the color red and the fact that so many of her shoes and boots are red. Does she like to keep an emergency snack around (somewhat tellingly, the one time she was in danger of starving to death, she was NOT wearing red shoes/boots) Or is it just a fashion choice, possibly inherited from her daddy (Hunson's boots are almost identical to one of Marcie's pairs and are the only part of his clothes (apart from his underwear) that are not part of the amulet, so maybe that pair of Marcie's boots was a gift from her dad.)
That is a really good point, and it would be smart, I can't believe you caught that! Nice Jeremy, you should email me at happilyeveraftergaming@gmail.com and maybe you could give me some more of your thoughts and theories!
I really hope the series will provide more incite into Marceline's mother. Also, she can shapeshift because she stole Hierophant's power to shapeshift. Stakes shows that she WAS bitten before the mushroom bomb, as the humans were departing on their ship she was bitten by the vampire king. Also, I have another theory that I strongly believe is true... you know how the humans said their equipment was going nuts and that they thought something big was going to happen so they sailed out on their ship? Remember the fish-like human-like creatures. Yeah. I think the mushroom bomb hit while they were on the ship(s), causing them to sink, and while in the water mutated into the fish-human-hybrids we've seen in a few episodes. Obviously the main thing that makes me think this (sort of like proof) is that the fish people wear animal hats, EXACTLY like the humans did because it protected them from vampire bites.
Fantastic Theory Mate! I love it!
Tokoyami Not sure what mushroom bomb you're talking about (unless you mean the Lich Bomb) but Marceline was bitten several years after the Mushroom War. Also, I believe that the humans on the boat managed to make it across the ocean but some of them decided to hid in an underground bunker instead and later mutated into the Hyoomans. The ones who left managed to create a new human colony and that's where Martin fled from centuries later for some unknown reason.
more Leaning towards Marceline's mom dying or got separated from her during the apocalyptic disaster that occurred. With that in mind would make more sense why she was alone as a child and ended up with Simon. then when they were separated again she somehow found her father who taught her about soul sucking who ended up eating her actual fries that was a luxury after the apocalypse ( she and Simon did basically hunt for a can of soup) but due to their already strained relationship she left to hunt vampires and you know the rest
Your Conscience I agree
That is a lot easier to believe
marceline looks like lily from modern family 8:14
Maybe when marcy was around 3, the mushroom war started. All hell broke loose on earth and even in the nightosphere so hunson abandoned her to retain the chaos and such, that is why he went missing in marcys younger days. Her mother died because of the radiation that is why she is alone when simon found her or maybe vampires killed her mother thats why she help the last remaining humans against vampire.
I’m guessing that soon after she was born her mother ran away with her, they survived for a few years during the apocalypse but eventually her mother died, this left Marcy all by herself. I’m gonna say when she was three and she was just wandering the apocalyptic setting she found Simon. They stayed together for a few years but then Simon leave her with Hunson. Then when she’s 16-17 she starts hunting all the vampires and due to her soul sucking abilities can gain their powers when she does so. Eventually she gets bitten by the vampire king and becomes immortal. She then meets PB after that as well as Ashe but I’m not sure who she started dating first.
The problem with the her dad ate her mom thing is that she was a teen at that point, long after being looked over by Simon, so timeline wise it makes no sense. The real reason she was so upset is because it's more of a straw that broke the camel's back sort of thing. When children are often neglected by their adults they become overly sensitive to rejection. A child that is often left alone will have separation anxieties, and something as simple as their mom taking a shower will cause them the same level of terror as if she had left the house entirely for hours. This is because a child that is neglected has a higher hope and desire for affection. This is mostly due to the child imagining how they want their parents to treat them. Because Marceline has grown up with her father not only abandoning her, but manipulating her as well, when she does see him she is hyped up and wanting to be close, trust him, and have him love her like a good father should. During that time he shows he is only thinking of himself by eating her fries, which in her mind triggers all the abandoning and hurt emotions, which is a normal response from children who grew up in abuse or neglect. This is also pre leant in children in foster care who are not allowed to be with their parents, as they act out over tiny things such as a toy that resembles one they played with when they were home with their parents. They cling to something good, and to have her father take that from her so callously was actually a huge thing.
Also, he even says he didn't think it was a big deal because they were cold, and she states she was wanting to eat them. I doubt if he was eating her mom he would have waited until she was cold, and I doubt Marceline wanted to eat her mom.
Steven Dautel or it's becouse those fries are only the few foods that she could find without having to hunt, after her dad ate her fries, her dad doesn't really need food but marcie was really hungry, and thus she thought he doesn't care about her need for food, even though those fries were cold.
In the episode were you get to see the flashbacks of her mom, marceline says that her mom got really sick and she did cough a lot through the episode and she died right after she sent the message to marceline as it is shows her going quiet and dropping the phone afterwords
Interesting theory about transference from him eating her mother to fries, except she's older in that memory. older than when traveling with simon. plus he tends to eat souls rather than flesh. plus he remembered the fries and referred to them being cold and not very good.
That being said, if the dream was altered the placement could have been as well, it could have been him eating her soul, he could have altered it (or even later used the guy to do it for him) and the cold could have referenced the soul.
I think it's more likely she just died on the fallout.
oh totally, it makes more sense, but this is a fun thought!
I wonder how insanely usefull Abadeer wouldve been in the final war
He was a beast no doubt
I've always thought Mom's death was circumstantial because of war events. And maybe Abadeer ate her soul afterwards. The Fries song relates a history of the Father's absence, and sometimes it got me confused as what timeline was that. Guess this video's conclusion is the same as mine, and can help to dis-mystify Marceline's past to a bunch. Still, the show's got a lot of answers to give us about the MOM. Sometimes I wonder how that sweet woman winded up in a relationship with Abadeer! That maybe he might have forced her into it somehow.
Maybe we can get some answers!
I think Marceline froze in age around Bonnibells apparent age. So she had to have fought the Vampire King at around 18.
Farm World Marceline was never bitten but still lived a really long time because she was half demon.
Marcilene's mother could've known Simon, and Hudson could've gotten mad at her for being with him, and he killed her.
Maybe
her mom died in the war and her dad left. ice king found her and when he left he some how told her dad to take care of her cause when he left he said ill get someone to take care of you who wont leave. which is how she got the fry memory then is left alone again. or something like that
Thanks for sharing
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Nice theory, now i remember thats why her Dad absorb fries in her music video. XD
I swear that last theory hands down, has to be true. because why would something so insignificant hold so much emotion. there are so many legends of demons impregnating women and then eating them to claim their souls. There should be an adventure time reboot for adult swim to show her past with a potential new boyfriend slowly gaining her trust which in turn shows more of not only her past but Ooo's dark history.
+Jason Shumpert a pg13 adventure time would be awesome
Maybe as Marcy is half human and at that time was not yet immortal, was tied to the basic human need to feed and in an apocalyptic world it was very difficult to find decent food, when she finally gets something and sees that she will not starve she trusts In his father to take care of a moment his only food, but as his father to not being human does not size the situation and out of curiosity he eats potato chips. Marcy feels betrayed to see that his father takes away the only sustenance to survive that he has, thus showing his lack of concern and disinterestedness
Yeah, I think you are right.
Thanks you, mister ;D
+Gretsche “Cami Chica Mágica” Kunstmann no problem
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I won't lie it is a pretty good theory. Even though adventure time was mainly aimed towards kids and yet can still bring in a more mature and adult fan base I honestly can't say I wouldn't expect something like it.
+JX ty
Huntsman says the fries weren't even good "they were really cold." confirming they weren't a delusion of Marcy's to fill in the trauma of her moms death.
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Remember, this was ice king’s fan fiction so maybe this is how ice king interpreted her bite
isn't it Marshalee (idk how to spell it). son of a demon, the vampire king. i mean it's not son of a demon AND the vampire king? ANd also I don't think Marceline's dad would eat yknow the mom of HIS daughter, I think it's most likely that since marceline's mom was human and they were together either before or during the Mushroom War, it is most likely that her mom could've died protecting which explains why Marceline was left alone when Simon found her. And abt the fries incident, in the episode It Came From The Nightosphere, her dad even said "those fries were cold anyway" and I don't think that could refer to...yknow the blood and inards but anyway that's what I think
i hope someone reads this
- my theory on what happen to marcy's mom is this
- when marcy was a child - did you all noticed where she was?? in a wreckage near a vehicle crying by her self - her being a demon was able to survive a certain incident - that being either the bomb going off or simon was going mad with power when he put on his crown. At that point everyone knows where this headed with marcy being taken care of by simon.
-she can barely remember this incident and everything after because its BEEN TOO LONG over a thousand years
my theory is marsy as a kid was with her mom and her dad was doing work in the nightosperph when the mushroom war happened a bomb dropped her mother hid her in the house her mother died from the heat of the bomb the house was destroyed so she stared to cry because she couldn't find her in the debre and siman found her..............................
Thank you for finding that theory about her dad eating her fries . That blew my mind. Anyway keep it up , you're doing a great job .
+Hanza 30 thanks for the response!
I feel like I'm listening to you read an essay... I'm interested in the subject, and you have great ideas and support, but I just don't like your style of presenting the information. May I suggest that you talk more like you would in person than in writing? That would make the video more enjoyable to watch, at least for me.
Anyways, thanks for making this video :)
dude that last theory was truly fascinating! subbing
Thank you so much!
I think that she looks too old when her dad ate her fries. When Marcy met Simon, she was very young.
You forgot Everything Stays, showing Marceline's mom looking very human
this is really good and the end blew my mind about changing her memory although she didn't get shape shift from being half demon she got it from on of the vampires she killed it showed in the episodes of her having to kill all the vampires again but other than that it was really good and made a lot of sense
+gaarza99 Thank you
My theory on Marceline's Mother is, she died from the radiation from the nuclear fallout. Marceline survived because she's half demon and was probably immune to the radiation. Marceline left her Mom because she became an oozer (as revealed in Marcy's Super Secret Scrapbook). Then Simon came along and saw a crying little girl wandering the wasteland alone. Simon was already going through emotions losing Betty so he watched over Marcy to make up for all the wrong he's done to Betty. Simon would later reunite Marcy with Hunson Abadeer because he found a note written by Marcy's Mother found in Marcy's pocket with the ritual to summon him right before his crown made him go completely insane!
+Dark Soul Heretic hmm interesting, very interesting.
I actually agree with the last theory though because that level of hurt and betrayal over fries wouldn't make sense and how she keeps coming back to the memory, and even immortalizing it through song.
I under stand feeling hurt and betrayed over some thing that unfortunately doesn't / wouldn't feel like a huge deal to others...this theory about Marceline singing about fries being a metaphor for some thing else entirely is a good theory but the song being "just" about fries could also really "just" be real pain over her father eating some thing that he could have and should have left alone. ( and in my opinion , that's ok too ...nothing wrong imo about a plot line that involves feeling betrayed over a demon eating fries when he does not really need to eat normal / mortal / human food while his half human daughter _does_ need to eat some thing like fries in order to live. To some it may seem silly to be that hurt / feeling that betrayed over it if it isn't a metaphor about some thing for some thing darker but it doesn't seem silly to me. ( even if it really is "just" over fries )
Great fan theory. I broke tears on the lyric "I can count your visits on my fingertips" and the notion that the other lyric could be "Daddy, why did you end my mum?"
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dat one dude theroy didn't make any sense bc if her dad remove da memory of her mom then she wouldnt remember herself getting patch up by her mom
It makes sense if he just altered that one memory to be less gruesome. Sometimes when something extremely traumatic happens to someone they'll be subject to memory blocks by their subconscious mind for their own sanity's preservation and protecting themselves from unbearable mental pain of reliving a traumatic event
But the time and years are different.
Twisted Well like Hawkeye in mash
the mini-series Stakes explains her backstory a little more
Yeah it helped a bit
My theory is that Marceline's mom died in the mushroom war. If her dad actually turned Marcy's mom into fries, how would she know that it's her mom. According to the song, "Daddy, why did you eat my fries", Marceline bought those fries. So after her mom died, Marceline was abandoned and then she met Simon. Simon took care of Marceline until she was in her teens. Marceline was saving people that survived the war, and she was killing vampires and sucking their essences. That's how she turned into a vampire. Any thoughts? Leave your opinions
I stop watching Adventure time about a year ago. Now watching this video I always thought what Marcy's mom look like.
My theory: I do not think Hudson ate Marceline's mother. In the episode, "It Came From the Nightosphere," after Finn had played Marceline's recording of the Fry song, Hudson turns around and says, "I love you, Marceline. Don't you ever doubt that." Even tears swell up in his eyes as he says that. Despite Hudson being a demon king, he still has the capability to love. If Hudson got a human pregnant, I'm sure he would have loved her and wouldn't have killed her nor eaten her. My theory is that, as a child, Marceline spent all her time with her mother, since her father was always gone on business trips. During the mushroom war, Marceline and her mother could have gotten separated. The mother, being human and having zero super natural powers, would have died in this situation. Marceline being half demon may have been more apt to life or death situations. Hudson could have been unaware of the war because of said business trips, hence he was unable to protect Marceline's mother. Simon could have just been that parental figure that Marceline came across that was willing to care for her. At that time Marceline did not have any other options, and I don't think she even had a way of contacting her father. Also, I believe if Ash were able to go into Marceline's memories and change them, wouldn't he have changed/erased the memory of him getting rid of Hambo so Marceline wouldn't leave him?
Hey before you hate on me, I made a newer Marceline video and completely did away with this theory!!
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Her mom died because shes human and the bomb killed mmost of the inhabitants on earth and half of the earth is gone
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Happily Ever After Gaming Dude Marcy Was Bitten By The Vampire King You Need Watch That Episode But I Dont Now What Kind Of Episode Is That And I Saw The Episode That Marcy Her Bite By The Vampire King And The Tiny Villigers Trap Marcy And Then She Was Hit By The Sunlight But She Didnt Died Her Bite By The Vampire King Was Gone. Thats All.
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IHateMySelfDude IHMSD That episode is The Dark Cloud.
I really like the fries theory. It morbidly fits.
A lot of these stuff were in Marcy's super secret scrapbook
My cousin said : " Adventure time is just a bunch of mad crazy stuff, there's no proper past, all the episodes are just people messing about.
I replied with Simons ( or ice kings), Marcelene, princess bubblegum, Betty and the history of oo.
+Ava Walker nice
TL;DR: Is good, but the main issue in the video is organization.
You covered pretty much all of the main points about Marceline's origins, so I don't feel like any points are missing in this video. However the way it's organized is a bit distracting. A lot of the same stuff is repeated at random points during the video, and ignoring points that were made earlier. For example, you comment on reasons why young Marceline was safe in the daylight instead of burning, and then speculated that it COULD be because she wasn't a vampire yet, even though earlier in the video you established that she was in fact, not a vampire until she was older.
If I could describe it, it sounds like all the points of this video were written down, as the information became available (after each of these episodes aired), but then not revised and put into context of the new information that was given afterwards. And then all the points were put in the video in random order.
Maybe one issue might be that a little TOO much information is being presented in one video, and many conflicting pieces of information are being interpreted at once, so it makes it hard to follow. It's not your fault at all that people involved in the show may give out conflicting information. But, what is in the show is canon in the universe. So even though Pen ward said before that Marceline was a vampire before the war, the idea was changed, and that is no longer true. Just like how in the pilot, our hero's name was Penn and they changed it to Finn later.
Aw geez. This comment got real long real fast. I hope I don't sound too rude or anything, and I don't mean anything personal. I'm trying to do constructive criticism, but apologies if it comes off the wrong way. The video is still good in that it covers a lot of important lore about the character, and includes cool extra little bits of information as well. I hope my comment doesn't bother anybody, and I hope it's helpful or something. Sorry I accidentally wrote this essay of a comment.
Candlehand No, your comment wasn't a bother. The fact that it's so long is a good thing, it means that you covered and explained a lot of stuff really well. I'm glad you went and took the time to express this stuff and explain how this video could be better. I think it's pretty useful, and explains to the creator of this video how to make their future videos better and fix their future mistakes. And anyone else reading this comment could fix and improve their own videos. Thanks for putting so much effort and time into making this; it's really useful, and kind of you. Making it long and putting in the effort to explain so much is really helpful.
I think it's entirely possible that in the fry song, she replaced her mother with fries, maybe as to not tell Finn everything from the beginning. I'm sure, even for Marceline, that'd be a difficult thing to explain to Finn, so instead, she just replaced it with fries. Or as you said, someone tried to replace her memory or disrupt it, but it was too strong a memory, so it was instead altered. but what if she just repressed the part about her mother being eaten? why does magic have to be the reason she says fries? What if she just couldnt visualize her father devouring her mother everytime she looked at him, so he changed her memory... which is entirely possible. it's proven that reflecting too much on specific memories can make them a little more vague. Maybe she only remembers that she was upset, but she can't believe that her father actually ate her mother, and so she repressed it subconsciously, but the feeling of disgust for her father was there, so the memory was only distorted, not her emotions for her father. idk. just a thought of your theory, but with a little twist.
But the thing is. Mar's mom died when she was very young. The fry song was set when she was a teen. I highly doubt the king knew about the war the family was split up and since Mar was more human she stayed with her mom. It wouldn't make sense, Mar's dad would have ate his former love in front of Mar when she was a kid. That's impossible.
I saw that shit that you put in between the two pictures at 7:17-7:18. What the actual hell man?
I don't see the problem, ???
A Cat Oh so you like kinky Marcline, the fuck.
+GamingFoxNetwork why not?
Thinking off a Clever Nickname It's too weird, I don't wanna think of Marcy like that.
+GamingFoxNetwork Then dont man. Thats easy. I dont see her like that too but ehh shes pretty
The way you wrote this episode went in circles. You already mentioned that Marcelline was still half-demon and not a vampire during the scene with the fries, and then in the second half, you return to that mentioning that Marcelline ate fries even though vampires do not eat that. You've already cleared up some stuff but you tend to reiterate them, and it just goes around like this and in that entire 12 minutes half of it was a reiteration of something you had just explained. Hope you could improve on this. I otherwise liked the video and I think you explain things well.
+Mmina Maclang yeah this episode is an embarrasment. Pls don't watch it, try an newer one.
"farily dark theory"? damn fam, that messed me up cos it made sense
+Terik17 lolol
This theory seems likely that Marceline's mom was eaten by her father and replaced with fries in her memories but why would her OWN father eat his mortal wife?
+Loida Montes who said they were married? Not sure of their relationship at all.
But the years and ages are different. Why eat the mother of your child? Mar's mom died when she was a child. So unless she seen her dad grubbing on her mom as a child than no way.
Ok i see your point .
Well, obviously all that anyone has is a theory of Marceline and her parents. Adventure Time seems to not display anymore origins about her background, nor the rest of the main characters. Hmm, I'm hoping that AT does reveal a bit more solidified evidence, for the main characters before this Show comes to an end in 2018...we'll see though.
+MarCor soon
This makes no sense. Demons were just going around falling in love with mortals before the Lich even existed? So how on earth did Marcy have fangs and pointy ears in a normal non-apocalyptic setting? I think the best possibility is Marcy didn’t have fangs or pointy ears and probably wasn’t even pale as a kid, the memories just faded that detail in Marcy’s head, and Hunson isn’t even related to Marcy. He’s a deranged demon who thinks Marcy is his daughter. Marcy formed some sort of bond with him and that’s why she calls him “dad”.
great theory it actually makes a lot of sense
thanks for watching
Actually, no. Marcelina got her shapeshifting abilities from one of the vampires in the Stakes! series. If you'll watch it, the 'old fashioned revenant' as Peppermint Butler calls him, Heirophant, has the ability to shapeshift, and Marceline loses this power when she has Bonnabelle remove her vampire essence, regaining it when she sucks Heirophant's soul.
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Also, I don't think it's too far to say that Hunsen might've eaten Marceline's mother. After all, we've seen adventure time go down some dark roads before, and turn them into something funny or quirky, or just attention-grabbing. Things like kidnapping, stalking, and sexual harassment with the Ice King, neglect and abandonment with Finn's dad, etcetera.
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Happily Ever After Gaming I have a Theory maybe Marceline's farther wanted to have a child not a wife just like in teen Titans Raven's farther wanted a child but did not care about the mother maybe Marceline's farther could have ate the mother because he just wanted a child
Faye K's theory is to far off.. I believe Marceline was like a Rosemary"s baby.. In the plot of Rosemary's Baby, Mia Farrow is pregnant with Satan's baby and not by choice.. Also, her mother resembles the actress who played on Rosemary's Baby the TV show, Zoe Saldana.. This show is known for it's references to Occultism and older horror movies which Rosemary's Baby is both.. I think maybe her mom was more wanting/willing to have the Ruler of the Nightosphere's spawn considering she raised Marceline up to the point of the Lich bomb or Mushroom War..
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Okay, I have an alternate theory to her over reaction at the french fries thing:
Marceline's reaction reads to me as hostile grief. Hostile grief is sometimes called 'angry grief', and there are a lot of manifestations, but the one I'm thinking of is when you feel angry at other people who remain, when someone you loved more is lost to you.
This can happen to people who lose the parent they considered more loving, caring, and who was always there for them.
When the parent who remains does something that feels like a betrayal, it can feel like that much more of a betrayal. every little pretty slight they do towards you feels magnified because they are the one who you have left, and not [other parent]
This can be added to by rose coloured retrospective believing that the one who you miss wouldn't hurt you like the remaining parent did.
(Picture Marc thinking "WTF, Mom would NEVER eat my french fries! Why is she gone and YOU'RE HERE!" and you start to get the picture)
For kids who lose a parent young this kind of reaction can become ingrained as a method with which they interact with the remaining parent, meaning they forever feel slighted more easily, and Marceline is almost definitively lost her mother during childhood. (She survived as an old wrinkly lady to 1000, no matter how fast/slow she ages as a vampire, she definitely ages was slower than humans even prior to that. Her mother actually could have died of natural causes while Marc was still a child if Marc ages slowly enough.)
So, I know for someone who has never lost anyone maybe this kind of seems bananas. I hear you, but grief really does make you feel bananas, sometimes for a very long time after the loss.
Also I should tell you, I speak from experience.
I lost a parent, (and I'm an adult btw, if I was a child living with either parent at the time I think it'd be worse.)
The parent I have left did petty things while the wound was fresh (and Marecline ages slowly, so I can't help but feel she'd mature slowly emotionally too, and that means having emotional wounds heal slower too), and my emotional response was definitely disproportionate to what they'd done.
Because grief over someone you loved who loved you, really fking f-cks with you.
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I thought the dark cloud was a sheep
Honest mistake :P
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cant forget that the tribe she befriends goes on to create the islands where we find finn's mom.
i think what you said is kinda obvious.i think the only parts you were wrong was about marceline shape shifing,immortality and healing...she's not immortal because she's a vampire, she's immortal because she absorbed the soul of that specific vampire that's immortal. Same goes for her shapeshifting and healing. Basically her ONLY original power was to absorb souls and take their abilities. On a side note, the writers of adventure time make stuff up as they go along so i don't even bother theorising anymore. There are many radical theories out there like about how susan strong could be finns mom or how betty could be princess bubblegum which would explain why he likes her so much but that was disproven because there are photos of PB as a child in the castle as well as her having a brother and what not. Anyway for me season 6 kinda jummped the shark with the whole ogerlorg thing..i was very dissapointed especially after they heavily implid that gunter used to be some weird small talking dinosaur thing in that "Dream" ice king had. Then they also use reencarnation too much so there's no real consistency. Like how shoko (the chick with no arm) was reincarnated as finn.
+Gitonga Mwaniki I appreciate your highly thought out and well put response!
I'm sure her Mom is the human black lady that looks like her, not the blue lady.
Her Dad is the half of her that she gets her skin and ears from.
I thought this was a cool theory. I can see Marceline's dad eating her mom, and for Ash to change her memory thats so low.
marcy is a hybrid and ice king at the moment becoming less and less human.... the mushroom war most-likely killed almost all the humans, which is why marcy's mom is gone, her father having to stay in the nightoshere probably did not realize what had happened considering the family was split up, leaving marcy to be on her own till ice king came
My theory tbh
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Madeline is a half demon human , in her teens she got bitten and became a vampire ( half human/demon/vampire)
your theory is credible. but dark. very dark.
+James Johnson ty
The theory about Marcelines father eating her mother dosen't have sense - i remember, that in one of episodes he was asked about his absence in Marceline's childhood (or something like this) and he replied ,,she was supposed to be with her Mother".
I think mom's marceline is ill
Yeah
I really appreciate the effort and time you put into these videos. You're very eloquently spoken and I enjoy listening to your videos. Some constructive criticism though is you repeat yourself a lot. So over all with a little restructuring and some editing your videos would easily be some of my favorite to watch. You're doing great so far so keep up the good work :)
You are totally right, this video was a mess, I'm surprised it has the views that it has, it really was bad. lol. I made a follow up Marceline video you can find on my channel that is LEAGUES better than this. Thanks for taking your time to tell me your thoughts!
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Your pronunciation of Bonnibel hurts me. It's Bon-i-bell. Not Bonnibial.
I think that Marceline and her mom survived the Mushroom war because as seen in the background when Marcy flashbacks to a memory with her mother that their house is a wreck (or maybe they just lived like that?) but they also seem to live in a dessert or beach which may be because they were hiding from something? Maybe Hudson Abedeer protected them and took them in to the Nightosphere while the explosion happened, therefore led them to survive. Afterwards while her mother was protecting her she may have died because of those green globs/zombies? killed her and Marceline was left to survive by herself and Simon took her in and the rest is history
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He thought he could sneak it in :3
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Marceline is half demon and ages much slower so it's possible that her mother just died of old age because she was a normal human