The Helmet Hole Discussion has Gotten RIDICULOUS

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
  • LEGO Star Wars and the clone helmet holes. I don't care if ya like them, I don't care if ya hate them. What I DO care about is people being civil towards each other, ESPECIALLY about something like LEGO that's just a hobby and meant to be enjoyed. I can't imagine that attacking other people brings enjoyment.
    00:00 NOT About the Actual Helmet Holes
    00:40 Where the "Anti" Group Needs to CHILL OUT
    02:01 Where the "Pro" Group Needs to CHILL OUT
    04:32 Thankfully, this isn't Everyone
    04:55 I'm Not Trying to Complain, this is a REMINDER TO BE CIVIL
    07:49 Outro

Komentáře • 278

  • @shadow_the_wanderer
    @shadow_the_wanderer Před 17 dny +122

    this is cool and all but what about the droid attack on the wookies

    • @peterpolus5272
      @peterpolus5272 Před 16 dny +4

      Outrageous! UNFAIR!

    • @biker_buckets3629
      @biker_buckets3629 Před 15 dny

      @@peterpolus5272it’s national travesty! it’s catastrophic! Those nincompoops must be stopped at once! (You meant it as a joke, right?)

    • @jasonmonks8423
      @jasonmonks8423 Před 14 dny +2

      Go, I will. Good relations with the Wookies, I have

  • @Lastbrickstanding99
    @Lastbrickstanding99 Před 17 dny +161

    Helmet holes are not good but they also not that bad so everyone just chill out

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 17 dny +10

      Tbh, imo they’re pretty bad.
      They unnecessarily made the design really wonky because LEGO was too niggardly to create new Phase II accessories, and we’re not talking about a one off figure but instead an entire main trilogy army faction.
      And frankly we’re talking about the army faction that almost single-handedly created today’s generation of Star Wars fans and defined LEGO Star Wars fan culture for decades. It’s at least 25% of the reason I buy LEGO, and it’s as if every 2 years LEGO makes a random and unecessary design compromise that significantly deteriorate clone design, whether it be hybrid era torso prints, printed waist capes, or the helmet holes

    • @SamBoyMass
      @SamBoyMass Před 16 dny +3

      🤓

    • @Technoblast649
      @Technoblast649 Před 15 dny +6

      ​@@kaleb749You really couldn't choose any other adjective to describe them being stingy? You're like a child saying words that sound like swears to "get away with it"

    • @wfisher4034
      @wfisher4034 Před 15 dny +1

      Yeah I think the holes look genuinely really bad, and it’s really obvious that LEGO doesn’t care about giving quality to the Star Wars mini figs compared to other themes. It’s sucks but people are still complaining about it too much, like clearly LEGO aren’t gonna change it so I think it would be more worth it to just accept it rather than keep getting mad over something.

    • @sandvich..
      @sandvich.. Před 14 dny

      ​@Technoblast649, it's his opinion. If anything, you sound sound like a child by responding to his/hers opinions

  • @jalenphillips7234
    @jalenphillips7234 Před 17 dny +92

    1. I think even MandRs biggest fans would admit that he gives off entitled crying baby energy when talking about things he doesn’t agree with, if he could be a bit more mature and offer solutions to the problems I have a feeling more people would hear him out.
    2. The “it’s a children’s toy, grown men crying over toys, go buy a black series” crowd is insufferable
    3. The biggest issue with the helmet hole helmets is the printing imo, ever since they introduced them the new prints have ranged from slight downgrades (332), to plain goofy (fives).

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 17 dny +7

      Yeah it sucks so hard to have Mandr as the face of LSW fans passionate about good design. His smarmy smarter-than-thee attitude really doesn’t help anything, and him and his fanbase leaning towards advocating for the absurd 360° printing that you see in customs give credence to people who argue that advocating for Lego’s own basic design principles is too high standard for LEGO Star Wars.
      Also, it’s worth pointing out that even if you don’t see the universal chunkier proportions and random plastic bits the helmet holes cause in Phase II as a more serious problem than the droopy printing of a couple of clone legions, that shifted print actually only exists for the helmet holes. Compare every printed clone helmet to the older rendition, and you’ll find they universally have to be spaced farther apart from the crest on the 2022 Phase II helmets. Hence why Five’s face print is wispy and the 212’s print has the orange streaks connecting much lower.

    • @TheBenjaman
      @TheBenjaman Před 17 dny +1

      But the thing is the problem that the helmet hole helmets have with the printing. They are also present on the non holed helmets ever since they introduced that new design with that 501st legion wave.

    • @hanshotlast
      @hanshotlast Před 16 dny

      @@TheBenjamanthe og 501st print didn’t have printing issues

    • @TheBenjaman
      @TheBenjaman Před 16 dny +2

      @hanshotlast the gap between the fin/mohawk/comlink and the printing is there in the 501st legion set. Just like how it is there in the og 332nd. I am looking at those figures right now. Now ifbwith og 501st you mean the clone wars one then youre wrong too that one has a gpa between the fin and printing too

    • @dgray3771
      @dgray3771 Před 14 dny +2

      It is actually just that. A kids toy. I think if people want to discuss the topic sure go ahead. Dislike the holes on the side. But in the end it really is a kids toy. A customizable endless options kids toy. Any set with a 100 pieces has millions of possibilities of reconnecting the bricks. If the holes are that much of a problem...don't buy the product. Nobody forces you.
      By continuously raging in every review on the helmet holes, it just shows the petty nature of the person reviewing. But that already shines through when Rex got released in a 13 buck set didn't it? The rage is not about product quality. But resale value.
      It shows how certain people gush over the bigger 501st battle pack. And have like 50/100 of these locked in storage. For the right moment to sell. Sets with holed helmet figures have less value. To them. Bringing it full circle to what the real problem is. People who do not love Lego but only care for resale value. Scalpers. I rest my case.

  • @pizza_man007
    @pizza_man007 Před 15 dny +20

    I saw they could have attachments and went "dope." And never thought about it again. I actually had to have somebody explain to me what the problem was.

    • @imperialbricks4217
      @imperialbricks4217 Před 14 dny +1

      Well that’s your opinion the problem isn’t the helmet hole necessarily to me it is but to find common ground it would be a great alternative if LEGO could just put them in the correct spot so the clone helmets don’t look so damn awful

    • @MrElmo54321
      @MrElmo54321 Před 7 dny +1

      @@imperialbricks4217but then the visor piece fits too low

    • @imperialbricks4217
      @imperialbricks4217 Před 7 dny

      @@MrElmo54321 no it wouldn’t if they actually designed a new visor instead of the same parts from effing 2008

    • @MrElmo54321
      @MrElmo54321 Před 7 dny +1

      @@imperialbricks4217 and yall act like that’s the easiest thing in the world

    • @TigerstarRel
      @TigerstarRel Před 5 dny +1

      @@MrElmo54321 EXACTLY, designing a new visor piece would be hard with the holes place that low!

  • @thecosmonaut4221
    @thecosmonaut4221 Před 16 dny +28

    hey look mom im in the video

  • @TelestoTheBesto
    @TelestoTheBesto Před 16 dny +9

    This situation is so ridiculous I thought this was an out if season April Fools joke, but then I realized it's the Lego community.
    I like the helmet holes, it allows for customization on any helmet.

    • @omarbaba9892
      @omarbaba9892 Před 13 dny

      Can you blame people for hating how they look though? Because they heavily change the shape of the helmet and printing and don’t even give you any attachments in the sets

    • @TelestoTheBesto
      @TelestoTheBesto Před 13 dny

      @@omarbaba9892 No and I can see why people don't like the holes. However, that is no excuse for the behavior described in the video.

  • @kaleb749
    @kaleb749 Před 17 dny +14

    It feels cathartic to have someone say this. It’s so frustrating trying to improve something I care a lot for and meet so much anti-intellectualism and opposition, especially when it doesn’t affect the helmet hole defenders in the slightest if the clone design is changed.

  • @xS1D3SW1P3x
    @xS1D3SW1P3x Před 16 dny +17

    this whole "pick your side" stuff is becoming rampant on the internet nowadays even more now than before, the fact that its festering even for LEGO pieces of all things should be a sign people need to take a break and go on a walk or something.

    • @dgray3771
      @dgray3771 Před 14 dny

      It's a ridiculous argument. Made by fanatics. Lego is Lego. It's a kids toy. Convince me otherwise. They put stud shooters on every vehicle. So far as to break the mold on vehicles just to include them. So kids can swoosh and shoot. Should I then care about 2 holes on the side of a helmet for a kids toy?
      And I get it. The 501st hailed battle pack. I got 2 of that set. Love it. But not so much as to buy 50 of it to put in the closet and wait for it to sell them for 100 bucks a piece. I'm not a scalper. The value of anything after that set became less, and that is what they cry about. The previous helmet is deemed superior. So nobody will be buying a set with the newer helmets. At least not their target customers.

    • @imperialbricks4217
      @imperialbricks4217 Před 14 dny

      @@dgray3771wow you are delusional why do you think LEGO makes giant 18+ sets? Oh it couldn’t be becuase there are more AFOLS and TFOLS than kid fans nowadays, as a kid I loved no helmet holes becuase it looked actually accurate, and I thought stud shooters sucked, what you said is immature and couldn’t be more wrong

    • @dgray3771
      @dgray3771 Před 14 dny

      @@imperialbricks4217 18+ sets are 18+ sets. Made up of thousands of pieces. I have to see the first 18+ set with just a minifig and some accessories. Then I will believe that lego is a thing made for kids.
      And to say delusional already shows what you think. You make it personal when I clearly state what Lego is and what the initial market is. 18+ sets are that because of the complexity of build. Not because of exclusive parts in the set.

  • @definitely_just_floating
    @definitely_just_floating Před 17 dny +52

    Why I dislike the holes:
    -They look a tad bit bad
    -The range finders (antennas) look goofy
    Why I like them:
    -Customization.
    Imo they should just have a different mold for clones who would use range finders (Ex: Officer on the 501st BP; Rex; Fives).

    • @FHT1883
      @FHT1883 Před 17 dny +5

      yes! that would be a good compromise.

    • @daaveragedogg8045
      @daaveragedogg8045 Před 17 dny +3

      Yup and another thing for the holes that is a negative is that the range finders fall so easy even a little bit of movement while the p1 doesn’t fall easy

    • @shaunw9092
      @shaunw9092 Před 17 dny +6

      If they threw Macro binocular parts in Clone sets more often (they're only in the 501st specialist pack that's about to retire) the helmet holes would be awesome, honestly.

    • @_Vibris
      @_Vibris Před 17 dny +2

      Another negative is that it always messes up the helmet print

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 17 dny +7

      I don’t see the point in producing two separate incompatible Phase II helmets when they could easily just make one Phase II helmet mould and update the accessories so that they aren’t accommodating Phase I accessories.
      The whole thing is baffling honestly, why would they ever have released the holeless Phase II helmet in the first place?

  • @nerdyoutube7847
    @nerdyoutube7847 Před 16 dny +13

    Lego Star Wars Reddit is so toxic

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 16 dny +3

      You can say that again. And also again. And again. And again….

    • @fulcrumagent
      @fulcrumagent Před 16 dny +1

      Reddit in general is toxic

    • @ledinyourwalls
      @ledinyourwalls Před 16 dny +1

      How exactly is it toxic? Their are bad actors for sure but not everyone is like that

  • @crazydog1750
    @crazydog1750  Před 17 dny +16

    PLEASE BE POLITE AND RESPECTFUL IN THE COMMENTS.
    So what do you think? Was I too harsh towards anyone? Not harsh enough? Was this video pointless?

  • @BillyBob-bd1hj
    @BillyBob-bd1hj Před 16 dny +11

    I have no Idea why CZcams suggested this to me, What are we even talking about?

    • @sporeham1674
      @sporeham1674 Před 16 dny +17

      The ww3 of the Lego Star Wars fandom

    • @QuintheQuesadilla
      @QuintheQuesadilla Před 16 dny

      @@sporeham1674real.

    • @LonelyGamer4
      @LonelyGamer4 Před 15 dny

      Manchildren arguing over the minute detail of a hole on the side of clone trooper helmets to stick accessories in.

    • @QuintheQuesadilla
      @QuintheQuesadilla Před 15 dny

      @@LonelyGamer4 Pluh you learned nothing from the video 💀

  • @_Pikalika_
    @_Pikalika_ Před 16 dny +2

    There is a whole side of lego that i didnt knew existed

  • @wiggleee_w0rm
    @wiggleee_w0rm Před 17 dny +8

    They’re not even bad looking. Should they have been lower? Sure! However being able to customize your phase 2 clones is a nice option to have if you have the parts to do so.
    I was a “these dont look that great” but actually seeing a helmet holed clone in person, i dont mind them

  • @user-ei7ht6cn1j
    @user-ei7ht6cn1j Před 17 dny +11

    I like them, but you are right, its gotten out of han of how people are isscusing them

  • @DrDeez-do9zo
    @DrDeez-do9zo Před 17 dny +4

    Honestly, i completely get why someone may dislike these helmet holes, they are in an awkward position, stand out oddly on clones that dont have accesories, and generally the old ones may have looked sleeker. But for me, ive been wanting holes on these helmets for years because i found it weird how you had phase 1 helmets that had them but no phase 2s. So now i can customize them in the ways i always wanted to!

  • @KataIIama
    @KataIIama Před 15 dny +2

    Bruh im just happy to have lots of Lego clone Trooper

  • @jasonmonks8423
    @jasonmonks8423 Před 14 dny +2

    At the end of the day, it's like a 1/2 mm circle on the side of a plastic figure. It's not the end of the world. Wether you like them or hate them, they aren't gonna explode your house lol

  • @pysz6748
    @pysz6748 Před 15 dny +1

    I hear a lot of people say that it’s not the holes that the problem it’s wonky printing. I haven’t noticed any problems with printing other than the 212th. I think people are now just creating problems.

  • @Mandarin69
    @Mandarin69 Před 15 dny +1

    I used to not mind helmet holes, but then i realized that the printing was messed up in their helmets, but i really like customizing so its tough

  • @BrickManUk
    @BrickManUk Před 16 dny +2

    I feel like MandR is a big contributor to the divide. The guy just doesn’t stop complaining about them. He’ll complain about them even on videos where it’s not even the topic

  • @levikranitz2440
    @levikranitz2440 Před 16 dny +3

    The only think I will never understand is why Lego doesn't use the old mold for clones that don't need holes, they have that already.
    But I really appreciate this vid, it was nice to see some calm positivity for a change. Sadly the lego community fell victim to what's been happening all over the internet for the past couple of years. People are slowly forgetting how to properly argue

  • @GroovySundowner
    @GroovySundowner Před 16 dny +1

    Thereʻs dots on the sides of the helmets that would make for good helmet holes. (Theyʻre right underneath the current helmet holes.)

  • @AWOLbriks47
    @AWOLbriks47 Před 17 dny +4

    I've noticed from the Start of the helmet hole argument that it doesn't keep the big negative voices from making a shit ton of money off of the product in question. Even the exclusivity of same product to certain sets to make money. Lego+controversy=$$$

  • @bobatesomemayo
    @bobatesomemayo Před 10 dny +2

    Sir another hole has hit the helmet

  • @Trabunkle
    @Trabunkle Před 16 dny +1

    1.- It's okay to like/dislike Helmet Holes!
    2.- There are some "influencers" that promote the hate on both sides!
    3.- It's Really Pathetic to dislike someone because of some tiny holes on a minifig helmet!

  • @abrahambartel6200
    @abrahambartel6200 Před 16 dny +2

    I saw the helmet holes in person for the first time yesterday and it is completely blown out of proportion. Is it inaccurate? sure. Does it matter? Not to me personally. I could see how some people might find it to be a bigger problem though

  • @RobinSwede
    @RobinSwede Před 14 dny +1

    It's absolutely fair play to make fun of the hole whingers

  • @AlexDeBrema
    @AlexDeBrema Před 17 dny +6

    helmet holes could have been made better and / or just been made for special chars who need them like cody..
    but that seems so very small next to the issue I've got with the helmets not being printed right (212th and fives)

    • @definitely_just_floating
      @definitely_just_floating Před 17 dny +3

      Bigger issue than the holes and many seem to forget it. Mind adding that they should’ve definitely fixed Fox before the set was even released.

    • @AlexDeBrema
      @AlexDeBrema Před 17 dny

      @@definitely_just_floating ah yes.. almost forgot fox there
      red and white worked on other figs before.. idk how they could've gone this far without noticing...
      I'd like do belive the designers making a mistake somewhere.. maybe even suggesting to change it but the higher ups saying that it is good enough.. while also not wanting to spend anything more to correct it if no one from disney says otherwise

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 17 dny

      A. How does it seem small next to helmet holes? Helmet holes alter the proportions of ALL Phase II clone helmets, making them chunky and adding random plastic detail
      B. It’s honestly ironic you say the terrible prints are a more serious issue, because these print issues are caused by the helmet hole prints. Compare all printed current Phase II helmets to the old holeless Phase II; you’ll find that in every helmet print, the new helmet has a larger space between the crest and the print than the old ones. That’s not coincidental

    • @AlexDeBrema
      @AlexDeBrema Před 16 dny

      Idk
      How would the holes impact the placement of prints on the helmet?
      Everything seems fine except for the fives markings and a simple in comparison looking triangle for the 212th trooper too..
      Never seen how they do these figures so idk..
      But if I could undo only one of the two issues it would definitely be the prints

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny

      @@AlexDeBremaI’m not a LEGO insider, so I don’t know exactly how the new plastic bits interfere with the printing, I’d imagine it has to do with the machine now having to deal with a wider and more warped helmet.
      But in any case, i think you should look again. These new print issues only arose with the new helmets, and every new Phase II helmet print now has more distance from the center crest. Obviously for a lot of clones like Rex or Cody, you’re not going to see the difference. But it’s really noticeable on the 212th and Fives, and if you look closely at designs that also have forehead prints like the 501st and the gunners, you can see that they also are spaced farther from the center crest. It doesn’t ruin all the new designs, but if you pay attention, you can see that they ALL have a larger gap between printing and the helmet crest, and that’s just simply not coincidental.

  • @benjamintheophilus5610
    @benjamintheophilus5610 Před 16 dny +10

    I recently got a Commander Gree in the mail and had an idea: only the characters who need the helmet holes should get them. Otherwise, regular clones/any lead who don't have a visor/antenna should get regular helmets.

    • @skyethepanda7216
      @skyethepanda7216 Před 16 dny +1

      No like mando helmets also have holes and phase 1 clone helmets also so why u complaining

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny +4

      @@skyethepanda7216 omg dude, yes Mando and Phase I had helmet holes, why do you think no one complained about it then? It’s because you can’t even tell they exist from the front, it’s perfectly placed on the helmet. Phase II should also have them placed right, and make Phase II accessories do those fit it right, like they already did with Phase I back in 2007

    • @dgray3771
      @dgray3771 Před 14 dny

      @@kaleb749 Maybe complain about the nob on top of Mace Windu's head too? 🤣

  • @ajthereptile
    @ajthereptile Před 16 dny +2

    I too absolutely hate the helmet hole discussion. By the way, thanks for putting my meme in the vid. 😆 0:27
    Edit: also thx for summarizing the drama in such a good manner.

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny

      Dude what 😭he’s categorizing you as part of the problem

    • @ajthereptile
      @ajthereptile Před 16 dny +1

      @@kaleb749 I was talking about the discussion as a whole, it’s ridiculous. Yet somehow that went a few thousand kilometers over your head. 🙄😑

  • @glitchtrap5395
    @glitchtrap5395 Před 16 dny +1

    i mean it is good for customisation but when you're not customising they can get annoying, but lego can't dictate whether you're gonna customise your minifigures or not

  • @hubertwaliszewski5740
    @hubertwaliszewski5740 Před 16 dny +1

    I am waiting to see the argument for giving helmet holes to commander gree.

  • @OpticBlast-yk5hf
    @OpticBlast-yk5hf Před 17 dny +11

    I watched that Cosmonaut video. I really enjoyed it. I like both of your channels. You both make really good video essay-like videos.

  • @TheGalacticNerd19
    @TheGalacticNerd19 Před 17 dny +2

    I think they look off when with older helmets that don’t have the holes but with their fellow kind they look fine

  • @user-mv8rn3mz4w
    @user-mv8rn3mz4w Před 12 dny +1

    I hate the new daul mold stormtroopers but I met a guy looking for daul mold stormiest and he told me he loves them. I just responded that I personally don’t like them and that I’m jealous that the Rouge one stormiest aren’t as cheap to collect. I mean for someone who likes them you gotta be loving the fact that their easy to find and cheap to buy. Most people talking about helmet holes arn’t so civilized.

  • @willpoweramv
    @willpoweramv Před 6 dny

    I think the real discussion we should be having is that the radar antenna things are too big for the helmet. It looks goofy

  • @User-16288
    @User-16288 Před 13 dny

    I think it's nice that there are these holes because we can make clones from Battlefront II

  • @lukebuildslego24
    @lukebuildslego24 Před 17 dny +4

    I agree with the anti-helmet community that helmet holes suck, and I honestly can't see why anyone would like them as they are now. Now when I say helmet holes, I just want to clarify, its specifically the placement of them that ticks me off. However, I definitely think people can disagree while being respectful. All of the Lego youtubers that I watch are pretty good with this (to my knowledge).

    • @definitely_just_floating
      @definitely_just_floating Před 17 dny +1

      The placement is needed for the macros and visors (these should get an upgrade), but they should definitely fix the placement for characters who would only use a range finder (these also kinda need an upgrade imo)

    • @lukebuildslego24
      @lukebuildslego24 Před 17 dny

      @@definitely_just_floating Yeah. Ideally, Lego should just move the helmet hole down a little bit, and then make new molds for the visors so that they would fit. They also need to make the range finders a little bit thinner IMO, because they look kind of funny sticking out that far.

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 17 dny

      @@definitely_just_floatingthey are not needed; LEGO can and should make new Phase II accessories that would fit their canonical placement

    • @awesomefez6959
      @awesomefez6959 Před 17 dny +5

      @@kaleb749 At some point accuracy and playability meet a crossroads where one has to suffer. If 2 out of 3 accessories look fine (which even the antennas aren't much of an issue) then accuracy is gonna suffer. If you value accuracy more, then there are plenty of Hasbro figures and vehicles to go around (I say that as a Hasbro collector myself).

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 17 dny

      @@awesomefez6959​​there is no reason for this to be one of those crossroads, LEGO has had no problem incorporating the playability of clone accessories and the accuracy of good holes placement in Phase I clones AND Mandalorians.
      The reality is the only thing stopping LEGO from doing both is the money of fixing their mistake with yet another Phase II helmet redesign in addition to brand new Phase II accessories. LEGO has no problem sparing this expense for things like the updated Vader helmet, so I see no reason a billion dollar gross profit company that is only growing needs to skimp on the design of a central army faction for its motst popular IP theme
      Most clones aren’t accessorized, and the antennas don’t look fine, they look virtually the same as accessory-less clones and it’s weird how much farther up the antenna sits on them, it really is quite tall. Also, I don’t collect Hasbro and don’t intend to because I don’t like accurate representations of Star Wars characters: I like accurate representations of Star Wars characters within Lego’s style. The accuracy i ask for is only accuracy LEGO had as its own previous standards.

  • @yadude_log
    @yadude_log Před 14 dny

    What's crazy is this video could be applied to the entire star wars fandom

  • @LeRossSawin-Porter-tt6hr
    @LeRossSawin-Porter-tt6hr Před 16 dny +5

    I think lego was at its best in the 2000s when they were focusing on making lego sets and not display pieces

  • @markten2430
    @markten2430 Před 14 dny

    I'm the maniac that takes minifigure parts and creates new minifigs out of them, so I love the helmet holes, but I can definitely see why some are upset

  • @Sprinklespark08
    @Sprinklespark08 Před 13 dny +1

    I don't care about the helmet holes. I just think Lego Star Wars is cool.

  • @bgoldbricks2002
    @bgoldbricks2002 Před 15 dny

    I completely understand the problem here, and I do think that everyone should calm down, but I can’t be upset about it, because I’m just happy to have what we’re getting nowadays, considering there was a time where things like what we have now seemed like nothing more than a fantasy.

  • @Kingbruffbruff
    @Kingbruffbruff Před 12 dny

    His mockery of the first 1999 SW range criticising its accuracy and expressing the opinion Lego should have waited a few years till they had better pieces tells me that on a very fundamental level he does not understand what Lego is or does.

  • @CT7567Rex
    @CT7567Rex Před 14 dny +1

    I like the helmet holes becouse you can customize your clone troopers. Thats it.

  • @g.williams2047
    @g.williams2047 Před 16 dny +1

    They don’t look good and I just wish they would line them up properly. I think the “children’s toy” thing is a stupid argument. No one is spending the money that many clones are found in nowadays for a children’s toy.

  • @tobiaswehner6836
    @tobiaswehner6836 Před 16 dny +2

    Yeah I agree, it's ridiculous that people go nuts about a change on a I remind you, " children's toy" I personally like the helmet holes, they give you a good base to customize your clones, and they did put the holes where they are so that the visors look accurate, the straight visors wouldn't fit if the holes were lower in the helmet and those visors would look stupid.

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny +1

      Why does everyone assume that only Phase I accessories can be used? LEGO could put the holes correctly in the Phase II helmets and make accessories that fit in them right, just like they did back in 2007 with Phase I.

    • @tobiaswehner6836
      @tobiaswehner6836 Před 16 dny

      @@kaleb749 im not assuming. I have pahse 1 and phase 2 clones. The visors are exactly the same from phase one and phase two clones. Im just saying in my comment that they would have to make new visors with an angle in it which would look stupid and inaccurate. So I understand why the holes on a phase 2 are where they are. Or what did you mean with assuming friend?

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny

      @@tobiaswehner6836I thought you were referring to how a phase I accessory would sit on a correctly holed Phase II helmet, but maybe you’re not? I’m confused what you mean because the Phase I and Phase II visors are actually relatively identical in how much they angle and sit on the canonical helmet, it’s the wide bar to the helmet that changes length.
      What I’m saying is that LEGO can have a similar connection from the visor to the hole, BUT the visor’s peg won’t be the top of the visor. If you look up Clone Army Custom’s Phase II Cody and imagine it still has a plastic connection into the hole beneath how CAC connects the visor, you might be able to see what I mean. Id show you with photo editing, but I don’t think CZcams allows links

    • @tobiaswehner6836
      @tobiaswehner6836 Před 16 dny +1

      @@kaleb749 yeah that's what I mean that the visors are the same, and I know what you mean, I have a custom Cody and he has the helmet holes where alot of people say the holes should be and because of that the custom maker used a visor that has an angle on the end to fit the different location of the holes in relation to where the eye/mask seeing cover is, the black on the face, and that's what I mean, lego made the holes where they are on phase 2, to use the old visor mold from the phase 1s ad I think that's good because those visors look more accurate than the ones from the custom company I have my Cody from.

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny

      @@tobiaswehner6836ok, well while that’s kinda accurate for a figure like Cody, the vast majority of clones are not visor clones, and my solution would give the appearance of it being accurate for visor clones while making EVERY clone accurate

  • @2lazyforanamethekgod307

    the main issue I take with anti helmet hole people is a lot of the big names in the discussion come off as if they're trying to squeeze money out of their fans it's never "this clone has helmet hole if you don't like it here's some recommendations on how to fix it" it's almost always "this clone has helmet holes if you don't like it I have custom parts on my store that I say for very high prices, trust me this is a big issue that lego must fix" and too many people just seem to blindly follow, it's reached a point where any tiny inaccuracy in clones (notice how it's always clones rarely anything else) gets blown up into this massive issue that you must spend more money to fix which at that point I think they should just move onto buying action figures if they want accuracy.
    If there's helmet holes it's good because you can customise your clones more (that's the entire point of the toy), if they're not there you can't and it limits the figure. They should be in the correct place but I feel like we've reached a point where if they correct it then 10+ years of specific parts won't be able to be used on the corrected helmets and parts made for those helmets won't be able to be used on other helmets that use the current parts, it would cost too much for to realistically expect Lego to create a new P2 helmet mold, new attachment molds for that helmet, while still producing the current P1 and Mando helmet alongside all the current attackments

  • @BlueNinjaNRG
    @BlueNinjaNRG Před 16 dny

    The helmets without holes look better and more accurate but i perfer the holes because it allows customization.

  • @Hucklefart_Dinklejartin

    I can’t believe people are even still talking about helmet holes, it’s been almost 2 years. This video should have had to be made 😵

  • @DaveRequiem
    @DaveRequiem Před 15 dny

    Personally I like helmet holes. While it does suck that they aren’t in the correct place, it is a minor issue that doesn’t detract from them too much, and I really like the added customisation that was previously exclusive to P1 troopers.
    also Lego please give us a Jedi battlepack please

  • @aidianajones
    @aidianajones Před 15 dny

    Tbh I'm neutral towards helmet holes, but I can't help but laugh when people complain about inaccuracy. Like I'm pretty sure clone troopers don't have giant holes in their legs or claw hands either.

  • @someguy475
    @someguy475 Před 16 dny +2

    Idk it is pretty funny when a grown ass man cries over a minifigure

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 16 dny +1

      You're exactly the kind of person I'm addressing in this video. Comments like these ARE the problem I'm talking about. Maybe MandR needs to chill out or grow up a little or whatever, but to me it looks like you're in that same boat.

    • @someguy475
      @someguy475 Před 16 dny +2

      @crazydog1750 I'm allowed to find something funny, you can act high and mighty about this but it's not that deep. Lego fans take things way too seriously, especially Lego Star Wars fans. If helmet holes is all it takes to sour your mood then there's a legitimate problem and that person needs to seek professional help

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 16 dny +1

      @@someguy475 You can find something funny, sure. I don't mind that. And you're also allowed to dislike an aspect of a product you enjoy and not need to seek "professional help." I'm saying that being rude and insulting is what the problem is here. It's so unnecessary. Whether that's toning it down on how much you dislike helmet holes or toning it down on how much you dislike those who dislike helmet holes, the anger and superiority complexes need to stop.

    • @someguy475
      @someguy475 Před 16 dny +2

      @crazydog1750 Never said nobody is allowed to not dislike them, I understand where some of them are coming from. The old helmet holes on the Clone Wars sets were less noticeable. I just personally think the people who act like the new helmet holes are the end of the world are overreacting and need to stop taking small plastic dudes so seriously

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 16 dny

      @@someguy475 And that is the kind of comment that I’m hoping for more of. No anger, no name-calling, just a polite statement of opinion.

  • @lehelflothmann5174
    @lehelflothmann5174 Před 15 dny

    Agree overall. Only point i disagree partially on is lego hating it's fans. While i don't think they activly hate them i do think they havw tremendous contempt for the star wars fans in particular which you can see based on how many more figures the qualiry of the figures and the ratio of printing vs stickers and the amount if custom molds thst almost every other major line has. It just feels like lego thinks star wars fans will buy anything so they don't put as much effort into the star wars line as others. The helmet holes are a good example of that.

  • @lorrd9076
    @lorrd9076 Před 14 dny

    I don't mind either way. I like the helmet holes so I can add accessories. But not all minifigs need accessories 🤷‍♂️. It's just the way it is, whining from both sides won't change anything.

  • @Clone_TrooperX
    @Clone_TrooperX Před 12 dny

    I honestly thought the Lego Star Wars community was a more peaceful place compared to the main Star Wars community, but I was wrong, I'm really pleased with the holes in the helmet as I was over 10 years from Lego introducing this from when they introduced the P2 model in Lego in 2013 but that's not everyone Being satisfied but doing what Lego is not a perfect company, as it cannot please everyone

  • @elysianxo
    @elysianxo Před 16 dny

    Ive liked helmet holes since the og phase 1 clone troopers because you can put all the attachments on them. I like to make my clones look fancy.

  • @gigimilano6757
    @gigimilano6757 Před 14 dny

    I kept writing that I love Helmet holes Just to see People reactions, quite funny on how some can be that agressive for such a small thing, I really don't care if they are there or not, at the end of the day I am more interested in the builds

  • @TigerstarRel
    @TigerstarRel Před 5 dny

    I really dont get it. Fans have been wanting Phase 2 Cody for a while, but we didnt get it for a while. When Lego finally added helmet holes to phase two clones, around 2 decades after their release, so we can finally get cody, and other characters that use visors, fans start complaining. I dont think people get that you cant really have characters like cody and fox without the holes, so if you dont want the holes, that means you dont want the character. Not trying to put out hate, im just saying! Nice vid btw.

  • @legoawcstopmotioner9435

    I'm pretty neutral on helmet holes. I agree that they look kinda bad and probably could have been handled better, but it definitely doesn't ruin the minifigures for me. I felt some people over-dramatized how bad they are. I somehow had no idea how hostile people were getting over defending them though.

  • @vekterius8049
    @vekterius8049 Před 16 dny

    My dudes and dudettes. The holes are there to stop kids from choking on them and not being able to breath

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny +1

      Completely false, new LEGO heads no longer have holes and there’s no reason one specific theme’s specific character would have holes for emergency situations if 99% of LEGO minifigs don’t

  • @omarbaba9892
    @omarbaba9892 Před 13 dny

    I mean, about the Lego intentionally making things bad has some backing behind it. Just look at the Fox figure, the quality on that thing is horrendous and the huge inaccurate of half his torso being the wrong colour is not only extremely obvious to anyone who’s not brainless but it would’ve literally have been cheaper to make it correct

  • @Clyde41981
    @Clyde41981 Před 6 dny

    I like helmet holes but I still think the 2013 style the most

  • @aliesterus1.023
    @aliesterus1.023 Před 14 dny

    1:32 You would be surprised how many enterprises hate the people who give them money. Some of them are even pretty big,
    Some have even come out and openly state they hate their fans **stares at people in the Western Anime Localizing industry**

  • @Witherbro08
    @Witherbro08 Před 14 dny

    Theres a hole theres a goal

  • @AndreSantos-xv9oh
    @AndreSantos-xv9oh Před 16 dny +1

    As some comments pointed out, Mr productions really should try not to sound like an entitled guy when complaining about everything. Because, as is, most of the toxic people that act like this probably are the same who like mr productions (NO HATE TO RYAN , JUST AN OPINION). I do agree with some things he says in general, but he really should try to say things in a more mature way, so theres not as many toxic idiots as there are. Obviously, there would still be some, but not nearly as much as there is now.

  • @raydaks6383
    @raydaks6383 Před 16 dny

    Sth that I think we can all agree on is that Lego have printing issues with their hole p2 helmets , for some reason it gives the helmet prints some wierd curve to it or whatever ( not for all clones tho ) and Lego should fix it , that’s all

  • @Duskcosmog
    @Duskcosmog Před 16 dny

    The idea of helmet holes was good, but the execution objectively sucks. Instead of drilling the holes in the proper attachment spots (although I'm pretty sure it's molded like that), they drill them a spot up so the visor doesn't cover the clone's eyes. This causes warts, holes in the helmets, and the range finders gets placed too high. Instead, just put them in the proper spot and mold a phase 2 clone visor that is placed a bit higher up on its pins and have the corners fold down a bit. This would make it more accurate.
    Lego is overall a good company. They make a good product, they will go the extra mile some times, and they can make good decisions. There are just a lot of things that they have done which are fuled by greed, ignorance, or malice. For example, the gunship. Or the armorer reusing a helmet for another character making her inaccurate. Another one is how Lego stopped doing waste capes for Star Wars for no reason. Or how they don't make accurate blasters. There are also a lot more. Some of these decisions are made so Lego can increase their profit margins. Others are made because the designers just don't care about the build so they don't research the lore enough. And very few are made out of malice (mainly the gunship)
    The main point in this video isn't just true to this but everything else in life. These days people are extremely retarded and don't know how to properly think and discuss stuff. The masses are extremely ignorant even though information is easily excessible. People also struggle with properly thinking and discussing things. People struggle to research stuff and review all the facts before forming a stance on things. They are lazy and form a stance on something with doing no, or very little research. They are also extremely emotional with their thoughts. They are a slave to their emotions letting it guide them. Frontal lobe thinking is not a good thing.
    Also very few people actually know how to argue. They usually get very heated very quick when met with disagreement; They are usually stubborn and dumb which those 2 are a poor combination; They are usually bad at explaining and conveying their thoughts; They don't know logic and logical fallicies; They also give up when met with repeated proper opposition to their points.

  • @darkspark5854
    @darkspark5854 Před 15 dny

    HOLE IS HOLE

  • @Miosz-rk4ch
    @Miosz-rk4ch Před 16 dny +1

    bro helmet holes were added like 2 years ago and you drop this video now

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 16 dny +2

      Because the conversation continues to get more and more absurd. Two years ago it wasn’t that bad, but nowadays I feel like it’s worse.

    • @ledinyourwalls
      @ledinyourwalls Před 16 dny

      ​@@crazydog1750only problem is it's kinda dead now?

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 16 dny

      @@ledinyourwalls Not really from what I’ve seen. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @ledinyourwalls
      @ledinyourwalls Před 16 dny

      @@crazydog1750 are we looking at the same sub?

  • @Gunlegs_Mcgee2077
    @Gunlegs_Mcgee2077 Před 15 dny

    The biggest problem that no one is talking about is the fact that the helmet holes are square. Range finders can no longer move correctly. Compare the helmet to a phase 1 helmet.

    • @skinnyj123
      @skinnyj123 Před 15 dny

      They also don't fit rangefinders sometimes because the pressure of the head pushing the helmet makes the rangefinder pop out

  • @2Potates
    @2Potates Před 16 dny

    I remember a certain game that came out a while ago which i feel only really got popular because of people who enjoy laughing at it's detractors than any enjoyment of the game itself. And there have been other such cases before and since then. So yeah we very much live in a word like that now.

  • @brandynpennington
    @brandynpennington Před 16 dny

    They did helmet holes in the most lazy way possible they just slapped them on every single clone since the atte even when the clones don’t need them like in the barc speeder chase

  • @dr.felixou8428
    @dr.felixou8428 Před 15 dny

    It is true that LEGO hate prequel fans but they also hate DC fans
    (I miss the 2012 JL era so bad)

  • @KerioFive
    @KerioFive Před 15 dny

    I stay out of arguments but I just won't buy them

  • @gechoman44iwantahippo
    @gechoman44iwantahippo Před 16 dny +1

    I think the helmet holes are good because they allow customization options, I don’t think they look bad at all, as I barely notice them unless I am actively trying to, and I also understand that Lego would have to sacrifice a mold somewhere else for us to get both holed and unholed, which I’m not sure would be worth it.
    I also get that people are allowed to have their own opinions and think that the people who are against them are valid in not liking them. I might not agree with a lot of the reasoning for disliking them (mainly that they look ugly), but you are entitled to that opinion and are valid in having it.
    The problem I have with the anti-holes people is that a lot of them feel like they are complaining for the sake of complaining at this point. I’m fine with fighting for what you believe in, but at this point, it’s just getting ridiculous. A lot of them use every opportunity to complain about something that really isn’t that big a deal, and it’s just becoming too much. We get it, you don’t like them, that doesn’t mean you need to spend every waking moment complaining about it.

  • @crashdgamer
    @crashdgamer Před 16 dny

    The position of the holes are a bit silly but at least we finally have a way of putting attachments on phase 2 helmets so why complain?

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny

      Because the holes are a bit silly and mess with the design? And it’s 100% not necessary for them to be there?

  • @theterribleclaw4285
    @theterribleclaw4285 Před 15 dny +1

    To tell you the truth I fell out of Lego because the modern sets are to expensive and lame don't try to change my mind.

  • @pitboy6301
    @pitboy6301 Před 11 dny

    good video i’ve been getting tired seeing of all this too

  • @rascal3554
    @rascal3554 Před 16 dny

    Tbh, the lego star wars Fandom became rather toxic.

  • @broncojuan
    @broncojuan Před 16 dny

    Full disclosure, I'm not a minifig guy, and I also hate the prequel era, so this doesn't really impact me, but doesn't MandR sell alternative helmets? Doesn't it make sense that is why he is so passionate about this subject?

  • @MAC-bb9bu
    @MAC-bb9bu Před 17 dny +2

    I agree

  • @ARCtrooper_bliz02
    @ARCtrooper_bliz02 Před 16 dny

    I hate the helmet holes because of him ngl

  • @waterh2o299
    @waterh2o299 Před 12 dny

    Lego fans complaining about everything else But the Outrageous Prices💀

  • @AwakenedSpace80
    @AwakenedSpace80 Před 16 dny

    They put the extra helmet holes there because the original phase 2 holes were too low for some of the accessories to work

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny

      Some of the Phase I accessories*
      If they made Phase II accessories instead of trying to force it to fit an incompatible design, it wouldn’t be an issue

    • @AwakenedSpace80
      @AwakenedSpace80 Před 16 dny

      @@kaleb749 yeah, but beggars can't be choosers so we gotta deal with what we have

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny

      @@AwakenedSpace80beggars? Bro, we pay for LEGO, this isn’t a charity. LEGO has and will change their designs if fans criticize it

    • @AwakenedSpace80
      @AwakenedSpace80 Před 16 dny

      @@kaleb749 it's a saying my dude

  • @Wasted_AF
    @Wasted_AF Před 10 dny

    Personally, the only reason I think the “helmet hole enjoyers” crowd can be toxic is because from what I’ve personally seen, the people who dislike them are both some of the biggest LSW content creators, and are even more toxic then the enjoyers. Also, I feel like the “enjoyers” don’t even really care, but think it’s funny/pretty pathetic that so many people care enough to complain about an aspect that, objectively, is the smallest issue to have with a lego mold/figure

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 10 dny

      I’d say that’s a reasonable take. The creators you’re referring to do have a tendency to overblow things, and I have a tendency to think that people online are meaner than they probably actually are. 😂

  • @lucastaylor3399
    @lucastaylor3399 Před 16 dny

    I just don’t get how it blew up to this bad in the first place. Yeah it’s not a great spot to put the holes when that little circular spot is right underneath where the helmet hole already goes, but the ability to get some use out of the extra helmet attachments and sortve kitbash your own oc clone troopers. It’s a play pattern, it seems like most forget LEGO are toy designers as well as manufacturers. They put helmet holes on phase 2 helmets w/this in mind. They knew that kids who may have watched clone wars and gets a LEGO Star Wars kit w/ a clone trooper or two would maybe wanna customize one of the troopers into their own character. Not everyone wants to army build a gajillion troopers to stand on grey baseplates for army showcase videos. LEGO is a children’s product first and foremost, yes they create 18+ collector style sets and most play sets do have more accuracies that only collectors are realistically going to care about, but helmet holes aren’t that, they’re purely one of functionality. It’s future proofing as well as giving themselves the ability to do named clone troopers like Rex, fives, Cody, fox, etc. I don’t think they’re great for the integration of it, but I understand why theyre there, and if I ever really dislike how they look I can just buy a few third party helmets to remedy the situation.

  • @anthonyaguirre7143
    @anthonyaguirre7143 Před 16 dny

    I haven't cared about helmet holes since I've gotten into Clone Army Customs. Still ... consistency between the ~2014 and ~2020 helmets would have been best

  • @labro249
    @labro249 Před 14 dny

    Oh noooo, my toy has a play feature that is fun and completely harmless!!!

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 14 dny

      Comments like these are part of the problem.

    • @labro249
      @labro249 Před 14 dny +1

      @@crazydog1750 Im just laughing at people who make such a stir out of nothing. I remember that old lego star wars helmet used to have these holes too, but why now is it such a problem? People should just chill out about this whole thing

    • @ledinyourwalls
      @ledinyourwalls Před 10 dny

      ​@@crazydog1750dude not everyone is going to like each other and a trash poorly researched PowerPoint video isn't going to change that

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 10 dny

      @@ledinyourwalls I am 100% aware that people won’t always like each other. But what’s the problem with reminding people that they don’t have to HATE each other?
      There will always be hate in this world, I accept that. But just because it’ll always be there doesn’t mean you can’t try to whittle it down a little.

  • @jekz300
    @jekz300 Před 16 dny

    I like them i have a whole customisation box

  • @PhillLatitude
    @PhillLatitude Před 15 dny

    Honestly dont see why it is that big of a deal sure there arent the best but there useful

  • @QuintheQuesadilla
    @QuintheQuesadilla Před 17 dny

    Bro this is literally what I’ve been thinking this whole time, why is everyone trying to attach morals to this stuff, it’s lego who cares?

    • @giselajimenez9705
      @giselajimenez9705 Před 17 dny

      i mean they do look bad but I don't mind

    • @QuintheQuesadilla
      @QuintheQuesadilla Před 17 dny +3

      @@giselajimenez9705 That’s not my problem, it’s that each side is trying to paint the other as evil and themselves as good even though it’s just lego
      Its fine to not like helmet holes but its not fine to have this god complex about it, I don’t get why so many people can’t see that.

    • @giselajimenez9705
      @giselajimenez9705 Před 17 dny

      @@QuintheQuesadilla Fr

  • @jjmcnamee6404
    @jjmcnamee6404 Před 16 dny

    I just don’t give a shit about the holes lol like I don’t care I sometimes usually forget them I don’t hate them but I don’t really like them

  • @Matt-zu2lu
    @Matt-zu2lu Před 17 dny

    I don’t care if people hate or love helmet holes, I just find it extremely repetitive whenever people bring them up, especially when they go on a 30 second rant about how horrible or great the holes are.

  • @darthyoda4934
    @darthyoda4934 Před 16 dny

    It’s actually so childish

  • @B1Brickz
    @B1Brickz Před 17 dny +3

    As a life long Star Wars fan and Lego Star Wars collector I couldn’t care less about the helmet holes, they are a toy and the more playability there is the better
    On a display set then maybe I see the point but most play sets are that, play sets

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny

      Playability vs design aesthetic is a false dichotomy, LEGO did both for the Phase I (and Mando) helmets

  • @nochs_brother_2
    @nochs_brother_2 Před 17 dny +3

    This is why I stay far away from the LEGO Star Wars crowd, I'll stick with my wholesome LEGO Minecraft community

    • @Makocat
      @Makocat Před 17 dny +1

      And any community. All fandoms, all communities are like this. I see this on everything everywhere. With clear exceptions. What I'd steer clear from is people that enact this type of toxic extremism in any hobby.

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 17 dny +3

      It really does get tiring to watch everyone jump to each other’s throats the first chance they get.

  • @samcer1002
    @samcer1002 Před 17 dny +3

    I proposed a compromise where instead of making a new macrobinocular mold (which they did), they could’ve instead pulled those resources to make a new visor mold that would attach at the point where the correct spot at the helmet to not morph the shape and warp the printing. On that exact video you referenced.
    Yeah, I was called a man-child for proposing a well thought-out hypothetical that would please both parties. Compromise is dead.

    • @crazydog1750
      @crazydog1750  Před 17 dny +2

      Yeah, it’s ridiculous. And infuriating. And I am so over all the name-calling from either side.

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny

      It’s the obvious solution and what LEGO already did for Phase I. It makes it so inexplicable that these helmet hole defenders don’t see the problem or even the value in the improvement and are so invested in shit slinging over something they have 0 stake in

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před 16 dny

      It’s the obvious solution and what LEGO already did for Phase I. It makes it so inexplicable that these helmet hole defenders don’t see the problem or even the value in the improvement and are so invested in shit slinging over something they have 0 stake in

  • @xVoiiDxHD
    @xVoiiDxHD Před 14 dny

    I can’t believe people are still crying about them 😂