My Intro to TP-Link Omada 101
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Been running Omada for just over a year. As a network professional, I've been an Ubiquiti fanboy for a long time, but like to be familiar with options. So far, the wireless gear and switches have been rock solid. The routers are comparable to the lower-end Unifi offerings. They hold up well enough for light users, but pale in comparison to "real" off-the-shelf routers, much less something like PFsense. However, the hardware controllers are trash. I've tried both hardware controllers and they are inexplicably buggy. But the software controller has worked flawlessly. And the cloud access to it hasn't let me down, yet. Since learning it and working out the kinks, I've installed several Omada setups (from 1 to 160 access points) and I've received no complaints (well, out of the ordinary). Unless somebody has a predetermined preference or use case requiring more horsepower, Omada brings a lot of performance vs. cost to the table.
Can you put me in touch with the client that is 150+ access points? As a network professional, I'd really love to discuss with them how it is going, what their working environment is, and the ease of management they've found with Omada.
@@ClayGravil It's an old hotel. To be honest, I wanted to go Ubiquiti with them, but they elected to save money. Wall APs for the rooms and better APs in common areas. A few meeting spaces, but no big conference center, so I wasn't worried about density too much. They aren't a tech savvy bunch. No smart hotel system. And they just change the wifi password weekly. I was honest about my concerns going in, but they've been happy so far. Been running for about 6 months.
How are you running the software controller...proxmox ?
quick question: can the omada controler software non omada access points along with omada access points installed?
😀SINCERE thanks for advice about software subscription of tplink omada instead of the hardware.
You can run the Omada controller as a Docker container, you don't need the physical controller if you don't want.
Yup, I run mine in a Linux Container (LXC) under Proxmox.
Do you have any tutorials?
Works on windows, too.
I started with Omada a few years ago because of cost and availability of Ubiquity equipment. It works, it's cost effective too and I've deployed about six system so far never having any major problems and all are still running.
I have ran both Omada and UniFi for over a year together. UniFi at home and Omada at my cabin. They both serve their purpose and I can tell you they are similar and enjoy both of them. I feel the UniFi is extremely expandable and has protect/phone and more that can be intergrate and I love it for my house. At the cabin I didn’t need all this and the Omada served as way to have the core of what was needed, allowed for network expansion for coverage as well as using a similar interface.
I prefer to not have all my eggs in one basket with how Ubiquiti likes to kill stuff off plus I refer to use my own hardware.
Great video! I might buy one now. Completely off-topic, did you film this on your iPhone 13 pro?
Awesome Video love the hardware centric videos the best! When are you going to tackle the new Plex server I am really looking forward to the Loki upgrade
Had a slight freak out thinking someones in my computer! Then yeah realized you got the same wallpaper as me! It's soooo cool!
No wireguard? thats the future of VPN. Incredible performance.
Business solutions tend to move slower. WireGuard is great, but business solutions will move to it only once it matures.
Obviously, it's available now
Really looking forward to seeing the rest of this Omada series!
Every time someone says Omada, I think Obama, and it's been a lot of fun.
Does Omada give you a VPN option that you can assign certain devices to? It'd be nice to assign an Apple TV 4K to one for example. I know pfSense can do it, but kinda scared of setting that up with Ubiquiti. Would like to see all the options the VPN can do on it. These things look like mini switches heh. Great video as always!
I really like the look at the omada line up I really wish I heard about them before changing 3 networks over to unifi also hopefully one day they bring out a rack bracket but maybe just 3D print one to hold them together
As far as the controller, I’m also “basic”. I regularly administer servers for work, super familiar with a love using Docker daily. But personally, I actually love the simplicity of just having a dedicated hardware controller. But YMMV. My setup isn’t yet complicated enough to warrant taking advantage of the benefits of removing hardware and consolidating things into a single server with virtualization and etc. For me having the dedicated hardware adds a bit of “set it and forget it” simplicity since then you’re not thinking about making sure the host server is online, the docker service is running, the container is running, the container is up to date, etc. Sure you still need to make sure the controller is updated, but still. Seems easier to me. 🤔
I think there is a docker that has the Omada controller software built in s you no longer have to use the hardware controller. I have seen people download it on their unraid servers and on their main machine.
I have this basic setup and I got to tell you I love it.
When I decided to switch from Spectrum to my municipality's new fiber internet, I decided to go with a better setup. I bought the router you have, the controller and their 5 port POE switch to run the 3 TP Link access points in my house. It's been almost a year now and have had no issues whatsoever. My previous cable ISP, I had to reboot every couple of weeks. I actually got the Edge Switch 10? first as I was thinking of using them but their other equipment was never available. No regrets with TP Link. Does more than I need it to be but if I ever decide to expand my network, good to know this can handle what I might want to do.
DONOT EAT THE CANDY IN THE TPLINK BOC. ITAS NOT CANDY BUT STICKYAPAD
If you dont mind me asking, Which model 5-port POE switch do you use?
@@ppha0244 Don't know the model # offhand, sorry. If I can remember when I'm home later I'll get it but it's only a couple years old at this point so can't have changed too much from any of their current model #.
I can't speak to the router, but I use Omada stuff behind a pfsense firewall and I am happy with it. Been using it for about 2 years now.
I'm setup the same way ..I have, Omado switches, Access Points and Controller in Docker, I do own their router ( the one in this video ) but when I set it up, it seemed lacking compared to my pfsense. Spoiled with pfSense
I'm running the controller in a docker on my Unraid server. For now only using the ER605v2, really hoping to get my hands on the TL-SG3428MP and a EAP610 very soon to expand my setup. Really love the ecosystem and the full 1Gb WAN I pay for
unraid has built in vpn, does that work with such routers?
@@galsherp6173 I installed wireguard an duckdns for vpn. Only had to open 1 port for wireguard in the firewall and had no issues. Using a Windows VM as daily driver, connecting through Chromebook. At home I don't need VPN, away from home I activate the tunnel and have all the luxury of a powerful "pc" and full network access.. Only have to figure out how to connect through DNS instead of IP
@@xisop if u use duckdns u have an dns...?
@@galsherp6173 I mean connecting to .local or any other device that can be accessed that way. I have to connect to IP of the server with a port if needed. When you have a bunch of devices scattered across 5 vlans/subnets this can be a hassle
iperf3 tests: firewall & routing please
does it have some DPI or IDS/IPS?
You may call it "prosumer" or "high-end" but at a $100, it can't be beat and works like a charm...
There is zero issue with running Cat 5e at the length they give in the box. I cant understand why people wanna constantly bang away at that. 10g will pass with no issue up to 45m. Ive got North of 30 Omada systems right now in the field (oldest system is 2 years old). Very good, reliable stuff. All working with the free cable between components. Dont whine about the free cable. Its fine. Youll be ok....
does it need a static ip for the internet? how about a dhcp internet connection will it work?
can you check the VLAN if will pass through the MESH network
I have been trying to find out if the is a way to connect my external 4TB USB drive to the network. My router doesn't have a USB port. The internet is telling the only practical way is by using a huge NAS. I just want 1-2 USB ports with the network device. Let me know if anyone has a solution.
Glad to finally see you make a video about real tech again..........and not batteries.
I use omada at home and i love it, never had issues with it!
Why do they make you purchase a hardware controller? Why not build it into the switch? Or even give you a option to buy it then flash the firmware on the router with it? Sure I'm not getting something but don't understand why they make it a 2nd device when that's not needed.
I would love to see the mobile wan back up using the USB port. I've been looking for something like that.
Im sure that you can 3d print something to make it rack mountable as well.
hi,
perfect video.
Omadacontroleller is the same GUI that Ubiquiti use only with other icons ^^
how it different from regular router ?
forgive my ignorance but what does this device do ? is it a hardware solution for plug and play vpn setup ? or is it hardware designed to run software that provides vpn
It's a prosumer/light business network ecosystem (router, switches, wireless access points with mesh or hardwired backloading) where you can have VLAN's to segregate sections of the network and block certain clients from accessing the router and controller (in the home... ie guests and/or kids). You can set up basic VPN's too. This level and above tends to have better data throughput than your basic consumer network gear.
not going to lie the mowing the lawn bit earned my sub
I’d like to see what your VPN speeds are with this
I use all Omada stuff for my home network, and I run the controller in Docker on my unRAID server. For the money, you really can't beat it.
I have ER605 but no usb port. Why's that?
Oh, I just bought the old ER605 model. If I knew there was already a new revision with a USB port.
can it works with out AR605? with just oc200 and eap110?
Whats the model of those tplink sir?
I personally wouldn't consider this router/firewall for business use. One of my main requirements is the ability to run multiple lans/subnets across it's interfaces. Those appear to be link layer switch ports instead of accessible interfaces.
How do I setup with Omada if I have a Wi-Fi/modem combo from my ISP? Do I replace it? Do I set it up in bridge mode? Or do i not need to the Omada router and use my ISP modem?
Yeah you always need the modem part, but you can turn off the WiFi from within the settings of that ISP box and then it's just a modem and router with no WiFi
Then you plug in your new WiFi to that and go from there. If it has bridge mode, even better if you plan to use a new router (like the one in the video)
I have the omada controller dockered on a raspberry pi to control my router and ap.
My er605 doesn't have a USB port though!
The V2 hardware version came with the USB. You and I have the V1 ER605 with no USB
Love the tplink gear with lifetime warranty. But i only run pfsense anymore.
The rack mount is really a missed opportunity imho. At least TP-Link could have made it so that it was separate available piece. Maybe a bracket where that router and the controller can be mounted together on a 1U bracket or something. Only thing that's vague to me is if IGMP Snooping is supported.
IGMP is for multicast noobs like Telekom and other noob ISPs
Do you want to try the mikrotik hexs router
can confirm those candies are delicious
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Hahahaha!! I love the dumb humor in this video!! Lmao
It's not a toilet paper holder but it is something that should be flushed
Is this wifi router?
if you build it, they will come...
I thought about vpn router, but chose to use a pi instead. wouldn't mind a better firewall though, can't use pi for that as it doesn't have the bandwidth capabilities.
The pi cannot be best for the value on VPN
@@jasonpowell7704 seems to work fine
I run the EAP's, big fan of them
Got the router, controller, 2 switches and 2 AP's running in the house. I actually switched from being a Mikrotik fan over to TP-Link. Go figure!. Its very stable but...be warned when you go and adopt your hardware to your controller. The controller does not do EVERYTHING that the individual pieces do. I am hoping that TP-Link will eventually add in all the functionality to the controller so I can keep everything integrated and not have to go stand alone. Thats a pain. If you go from stand alone to controller...you lose the settings...if you want to go back to stand alone, you lose the settings...There has been some minor bugs with DHCP reservations and others things that TP-Link is still growing through...Probably not much different when it comes to growing pains that Ubiquiti is going through. Pricepoint...I love it...full roaming...I love it...Stability...I love it. Support....gotta beat up TP-Link once in a while on the forums to get them to move.
You arent the first iv seen to say that there are differences between controller and standalone. One of the forums I was looking at even mentioned a setting that was preventing full throughput. Im curious, for a smaller network like just router, switch, and 1 ap would you use the controller or is it better to have more options and use the standalone interfaces?
@@angrynerd2103 Small networks really dont need the controller at all. Actually any size network does not need the controller. But for the price point, I just decided to go with it.
Cool 👍
7:05 -->😄Thanks for that too!
Should probably consider a better provider, or not using a VPN service at all if you're just using Nord because of their claims of privacy. VPN services are only really any good for bypassing geofilters, and providers like Nord where they expect you to install their own app and their own driver could be stripping SSL.
Is there an ongoing cost/licensing on a monthly or annual basis for Omada and Cloud management?
Nope, Its free
I luagh cause I just the modem dew.days.before you posted this..
I didn't see holes for ears so you would just put on a shelf in your rack.
This is a great ecosystem..my only issue is no mdns
Desktop background...I have the deep field JWST picture.
You need to ugprade that thing to a newer OpenWRT right away, that thing is running OpenWRT 14 with a 3.x kernel and that is VERY INSECURE!
Won't be my friend for too long ...doing that, sticking things into where it doesn't belong !
With side projects my wife says I never finish anyth...
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Just use a mikrotik. Cheap, very powerful, it's a literal swiss army knife
this stupid thing this controller must be embedded inside any AP then then router is the VPN gate for this whole system but TPlink prefers to put it separate for some reason.!
3:30 Forbidden black liquorish included in box ;)
Go the Blue Heeler
I wish I would've found this before trying stupid Decos 😑
Jason, For the cost of everything that you need. Would it not be better to just get a Unif Gateway Pro and be done with it ?
P.S. I love my Gateway Pro.
Or just run pfsense on a 1u
Still cost less than a unifi gateway pro. About $350 for everything including controller and access point with switch to get you up and running. Plus in stock
@@jasonpowell7704 Had no issues getting mine. and only paid $50.00 more for one device.
You could, I run both UniFi and Omada. UniFi at home and Omada at my cabin. Both have their place in the industry and I can tell you that in my use case at the cabin this was a better option as it was slightly lower cost, expandable as needed and easy to use as the interface is close to UniFi.
@@jeffherdz you only paid $50 more for unifi?
print a rack mount ;)
The problems are their APs are huge and hideous
Yep, they're similar design to Xirrus APs fugly AF. Cisco's WiFi6 Catalyst APs are alright, but their 3700 series APs looked pretty cool, too. Aruba APs look alright, and yeah, their flagship 6 AP-555 is massive. Their new 6E series AP are kinda cool with the geometric texture and compactness, except for the gloss finish.
@@logikgr They now have mini APs, they are awesome.
5:00 minutes into the rant. Yawns, writes this comment, and leaves at 5:46 mark
TP-Link copies Unifi OS even down to the icons... Thier hardware is garbage and thier software has all the same problems that last years version of the Unifi OS had. Check how often TP-Link updates firmware. Check how easy it is to get support from TP-Link. Almost no firmware updates and zero support. Cash that check they gave you, finish the videos you agreed to and run, dont walk, run.
I guess we all need money, but I won't touch any of this video series with a 10 foot pole. The information is contaminated/scrubbed as it's obviously bought and paid for bullshit.
sticking with my PFSense
They're basically the same TP-Link basically copied the unifies old interface and there's way less products on TP-Link Armada and the access points don't look good and they're too big but it's not bad it's still a good service and everything like that is still good
First
He thinks he is funny ..... why?
ubquity is junk
You made this video boring
First, S*c* it Nate.
Looks cheap compared to UniFi
lets go brandon!
supported a imageline product... what a joke, and also tNice tutorialer save function is a joke... even the save function in "Microsoft Word" is better...
Useless...1Gb network isn't good enough today, 2.5Gb, 5Gb and10Gb are already there and more futur proof! Wifi 6/6E/7, Cat6/6E cable and IEEE 802.3bz equipements is what we need. My provider offer fiber internet access up 1,5Gb and I have a 10Gb port on the HH4000 modem/router they rent me. You can get 2.5Gb switch and network card for pretty cheap today and you don't need to dump all your 1Gb equipement tomorrow they still work. New purchase mean "upgrade" getting 1Gb equipement is not an upgrade...
It’s an upgrade because it was free from tp-link